[00:56] ximion, would you be interested in a gnome-software sprint in early April? Richard was planning one [00:57] (in London) [01:36] robert_ancell: sure, I would be very interested! [01:37] I am not yet sure though if I have time then, and I would need sponsoring, which complicates things [01:43] * ximion needs sleep [01:43] gn8! === maclin1 is now known as maclin [05:50] Hi [06:44] good morning! [06:58] hikiko, didrocks: Good morning [06:58] good morning duflu didrocks [06:58] hey duflu, hikiko [06:58] hikiko: did you get your new laptop? [07:00] today didrocks :) [07:00] I am expecting it [07:04] great! [08:50] morning all [08:50] seb128, I've got a "training course" at 1600 today. If the meeting is not wrapped by then, do you mind finishing it off? [08:50] willcooke, hey, I can do that sure [08:50] thanks [08:50] yw! [09:03] yo [09:03] willcooke: mandatory re-education? [09:03] morning Laney, 'fraid so. [09:03] Reviews, etc etc etc [09:03] Seems to get more complex with more and more separate systems to fill in every year [09:04] at Rosie's work they have compulsory performance goals [09:04] Embodies the values of $company [09:05] stuff like that [09:05] and you have to write about how you did that in the past year [09:05] Urgh [09:05] I guess I shouldn't complain (too much) then [09:05] we ain't no giant evil corporation yet [09:05] I had a place where we had to write reviews to a set template [09:06] It made it easier to fill out [09:06] but it was totally useless [09:06] It was essentially the Molesworth Self Adjusting Thank-you letter of reviews [09:07] haha [09:09] hey Laney, how are you? [09:10] heeeeeeeeEEEeeeEEeeeEEEeeeEEEeeeeey seb128 [09:10] :-) [09:10] I am le good [09:11] re-flashed my phone with cyanogenmod last nite [09:11] it got this bug where it just would not ring sometimes if people phone me [09:11] but it does on their side [09:11] and no missed call notification or anything [09:11] you put ubuntu touch on there right? ;-) [09:11] that would be less buggy [09:12] even if it was me doing the port [09:13] heh [09:35] Laney: once you've a sec, can you please check https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1058 ? [09:36] hey Trevinho [09:36] hi seb128 [09:36] hi everybody :-) [09:36] Trevinho, I was going to ask what this landing is blocked on? [09:36] is that missing ffe approvals? [09:36] hey Trevinho [09:36] hi Laney [09:37] have you ever noticed that the help overlay thing 'sees through' the dash? :) [09:37] open dash, hold super [09:37] omg it's a hole! [09:37] indeed! [09:38] think this upload is fine [09:38] let me look [09:38] Laney: mh, yeah... That's because blurring is done against X world, not against X+Nux world [09:39] Laney: we had the dash closing when opening the shortcuts in the past IIRC [09:39] I'd also like to get some feedback on the gtk patches, so we can land the other headerbar related fixes [09:56] DONE [09:56] gtk> you were working on that with d_e_s_r_t right? [10:00] Trevinho, seb128, andyrock, hikiko - sorry, need 3 more mins. Be right there..... [10:00] willcooke: ok [10:01] ok :) [10:04] there [10:06] willcooke, on my way [10:33] Laney, you souldn't avoid mentioning people names when there are actions needed from them ;-) [10:33] Trevinho, was desrt reviewing the gtk changes? [10:35] avoiding a false alarm [10:36] Laney, we need somebody to review those changes though ... ;-) [10:36] anyway, let's see what desrt said when she's up [10:40] Trevinho, btw there is an issue with unity translations in xenial, the template is not correctly updated during the build [10:41] seb128: mh, what's missing? [10:41] from the build log it tries to generate a {PROJECT_NAME} domain [10:41] Ah... fuck [10:41] I don't have a build tree here [10:42] but is the config.h.cmake transformed in config.h? [10:42] seb128: yes [10:42] what GETTEXT_DOMAIN value that contain? [10:42] if you have a build tree around to look [10:42] +does [10:42] seb128: it has unity here [10:43] so fine [10:43] :-/ [10:43] GETTEXT_PACKAGE I mean [10:43] it needs some debugging then I guess [10:44] I'm going to have a look after lunch [10:44] seb128: ok, thanks... [10:44] is that config.h in the srcdir? [10:44] seb128: there's config.h.cmake in srcdir, config.h is generated in build dir [10:44] if not, is there a CMakeLists.txt or po/CMakeLists.txt which contain a GETTEXT_DOMAIN [10:45] dh_translations might only look in the srcdir [10:45] Trevinho, thanks, I'm going to look more after lunch [12:09] doh [12:09] building webkit killed my desktop === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [12:39] Laney, we have all been there. [12:41] I do wonder why it died [12:42] https://paste.ubuntu.com/15391313/ [12:42] that's what it managed to put in the journal [12:45] Laney, you probably did e.g. -j4 with not enough RAM to link simultaniously 4 C++ units. [12:45] try -j1 [12:45] 32 gigs! [12:45] but yeah it OOM killed firefox and dropbox [12:45] hihi hackers [12:45] don't know why the whole system then went down, no logs about that [12:46] howdy desrt [12:47] hey Laney [12:47] just accidentally opened a pdf in gedit [12:47] * Laney stabs the local council [12:47] happyaron, reminder - pls send your updates [12:47] however it reminds me of that course at uni where we wrote postscript [12:47] man that was fun [12:49] did you put up a new version of the patch, Trevinho ? [12:49] desrt: yes [12:49] last week [12:49] link me? [12:49] desrt: oh, it's the same https://code.launchpad.net/+branch/~3v1n0/gtk/unity-border-radius-support/+merge/288331 [12:51] will look, thanks [12:51] hey desrt! [12:51] desrt: thank you [12:55] morning, seb [12:59] willcooke: sure, :D === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [13:20] Trevinho: sorry, but you probably need to resubmit again :( [13:43] what :( [13:44] one of my monitors just suspended and now I can't get it to come back on === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:04] I've some issues here as well [14:05] like when connecting my laptop to my external monitor I'm pretty sure it used to wake it up/adapt the config [14:05] now I need to press a key/move the mouse for it to kick in [14:05] xrandr thinks it's not connected [14:05] u-c-c can see the name of it at least though [14:05] weird [14:06] I though u-c-c used xrandr to query those info [14:06] yes [14:06] so I can't enable it in u-c-c [14:06] desrt: ok, np... let me check the reveiw [14:06] review* [14:06] ah, it has the name even when it's not connected [14:06] gotcha [14:07] it knows there's something plugged in [14:07] but can't do anything with it [14:07] whyyyy [14:07] xxxoorg [14:07] or nvidia drivers? [14:07] :p [14:09] bah [14:09] trying nouveau again [14:10] :-( [14:10] does anyone know when gnome-terminal started shipping the solarized themes? they weren't there in 14.04 and they're here in 16.04. [14:10] Laney: can you respond to https://plus.google.com/u/0/+MichaelHall119/posts/3yPoJ99j4en ? It looks like the transmission-qt.png icon exists, but the generator isn't finding it [14:11] hello desktopers, what is this bug about? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plank/+bug/1557011 [14:11] Launchpad bug 1557011 in plank (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/plank:6:match:match:match:match:pcre_exec" [Undecided,New] [14:11] ricotz, hey, not that I know about [14:12] IRC [Internet Relay Chat] (n): 1. an online forum for complaining about the fact that telegram appears to be offline [14:12] ricotz, sorry, what do you mean? [14:12] ricotz, it's a sigabrt report [14:12] #9 0x76b02a34 in match (eptr=0xe7fc87 " object at path /org/ayatana/bamf/application/1879036094", ecode=0xd5095e "x", mstart=0xe7fc50 "od: No such interface 'org.ayatana.bamf.application' on object at path /org/ayatana/bamf/application/1879036094", offset_top=2, md=0x7ef93a24, eptrb=0x0, rdepth=3) at pcre_exec.c:516 [14:13] ricotz, ^ no bamf available and it aborts [14:13] god [14:13] nouveau doesn't even work at all [14:13] :-( [14:14] mhall119, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=transmission-qt.png&mode=exactfilename&suite=xenial&arch=any [14:14] seb128, I see, I am not able to look at the included link [14:15] mhall119, that icon seems invalid? [14:15] mhall119: I don't see that icon [14:15] ricotz, you need to be in some team, bugsquad or such, I don't remember which one [14:15] * Laney cries [14:16] seb128, ah ok, looks like a bamf problem though << Trevinho ;) [14:16] seb128, do I want to be in this group? ;) [14:17] seb128, I mean does this result in 100+ mails per day [14:17] ricotz, it generates no email afaik but it gives you permissions on bugs triage and access to e.u.c [14:17] seb128, ok, thanks [14:18] forget this [14:18] I'm going to ragelunch [14:23] seb128 do you know what's the component that switch off the display when the lid is closed? [14:24] andyrock, no, it's either xorg itself or unity-settings-daemon I guess [14:24] Laney, enjoy [14:26] seb128: Just want to confirm what the *name* is of the thingy which is included in the gnome-software package, and which is supposed to be used in e.g. the desktop docs. Is it just "Software"? Like this: [14:26] -> Use "Software" to add programs and make Ubuntu more useful. [14:26] I.e. combinations like "Software Center" or "Ubuntu Software Center" should no longer be used? (There is still an instance of "Software center" in a lens in Unity Dash.) [14:27] GunnarHj, right, it's "Software" [14:27] seb128: Thanks. [14:32] Laney: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/transmission/trunk/files/head:/qt/icons/hicolor/64x64/ has transmission-qt.png === charles_ is now known as charles [14:39] mhall119, it doesn't get installed in the deb then [14:39] so a packaging problem? [14:40] seems so [14:45] desrt: see my replies when you can... But I don't think we can fetch such infos from toplevel [14:45] that seems really weird [14:45] mhall119, Laney, that bug is not new and not specific to the store, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/1212835 [14:45] Launchpad bug 1212835 in transmission (Ubuntu) "Missing icon from dock and dash" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:47] ah,thanks seb128 [14:47] Trevinho: in particular there is a class called "decoration" which has the appropriate border-radius properties [14:47] yw [14:48] desrt: I get nothing grepping for that one :o [14:48] Trevinho: the gtkwindow has this available as priv->decoration_node [14:49] desrt: I think it's something upstream, not on gtk 3.18 [14:49] ah. could be. [14:49] well, if your approach works then it works [14:49] but it seems like the dialogs get a different treatment [14:50] (again, upstream version) [14:50] is canonical irc down? [14:50] IRC [Internet Relay Chat] (n): 1. an online forum for complaining about the fact that other IRC networks appear to be offline [14:50] (yes. it's down for me too) ;) [14:53] mhall119, the transmission issue has been fixed upstream in the most recent version btw, we if somebody wants to update or backport https://trac.transmissionbt.com/changeset/14374 [14:54] desrt: dialogs... Mh I did't see that here [14:54] take a look at adwaita [14:54] look for all instances of radius.*7 [14:55] there are a bunch scattered about [14:55] decoration class, titlebar widget, message dialogs, etc. [14:55] tooltips get 5, btw. [14:55] yeah, tooltips are handled here. Dialogs might be different in our gtk though [14:56] would be nice to have a patch with an eye to the future (read: present) [14:58] * desrt watches Trevinho complain about "i don't want to include X11 headers" in a comment immediately adjacent to a patch fragment that calls XChangeProperty [14:58] ...we've already crossed that bridge :p [14:58] :) [14:58] desrt: I know what you mean, I meant I didn't want to add a new fragment on top... Add more includes [14:58] but whathever [14:59] nod. [14:59] you could just write '6' [14:59] since it will always be 6. forever. [14:59] :) [14:59] Yeah, I know... but I don't love magic numbers. [14:59] Or adding a new const [15:00] that's going to be called once, it shouldn't be really nothing problematic [15:00] * desrt shrugs [15:01] seems like a lot of effort to call a function that always returns 6 :) [15:01] and once per new window plus style change [15:01] but ya... i'm knitpicking [15:04] anyway... .commented back. poke me when you have a new patch [15:27] willcooke, hey, as our theme maintainer, do you want to look at the new icons added to bug #1549490? ;-) [15:27] bug 1549490 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "low resolution checkbox icons" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1549490 [15:28] seb128, added to the list [15:28] hope that next week I can make time to get them all done [15:28] great [15:28] I'm going to be on vac but I guess Laney can help you doing a landing [15:29] I've some mps waiting for review on the themes as well [15:31] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 [15:31] Meeting started Tue Mar 15 15:31:21 2016 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: [15:31] Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [15:32] answer roll call! [15:32] o/ [15:32] \o [15:32] hello [15:32] SYNACK [15:32] \o/ [15:32] hey [15:32] \o [15:33] hey [15:33] I have another meeting in 30 mins, so if we don't get done in time I'll hand over to seb128 [15:33] but let's get started [15:33] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: andyrock [15:34] * reviews [15:34] * i've been working on the lockscreen suspend bug. I rewrote our inhibition logic but I've some bad news [15:35] * desrt raises an eyebrow at "rewrote inhibit logic" [15:35] inside unity :D [15:35] * desrt 's eyebrow falls back down [15:35] lol [15:36] basically the problem is that unity/compiz fails to properly "lock" the screen because the screen is turned off [15:36] so all the frames are kind of trashed [15:36] and drawn only when the screen is turned on again on resume [15:36] don't you install a suspend inhibitor? [15:36] yeah [15:36] can't the indicator do the locking before calling the switching or suspend? [15:36] we do that [15:36] but compiz fails to draw it [15:37] because the screen is off [15:37] so the screen is locked but not drawn [15:37] why is the screen off? [15:37] and this happens just on lid off because of this [15:37] oh ok [15:38] if you suspend with a menu it's ok [15:38] I'm trying to figure our a way to workaround this [15:38] k [15:38] *out [15:39] g-s do not fail to do so because it does not use gtk? [15:39] *opengl [15:39] sorry [15:39] i'll keep working on it, at least I know what to fix now [15:40] <\andy> [15:40] thanks andyrock [15:40] Do you need anyone to help you? [15:40] why is opengl making a difference there? [15:41] willcooke, maybe it would be good to get input from somebody knowing the rendering stack enough to have a clue what's going on [15:41] kgunn's team? [15:41] or maybe desrt knows offhand what could be wrong? [15:41] i would have thought it was easy but the whole "can't draw when the screen is already off" thing is a bit annoying [15:42] can we add a "simple" force option to compiz? [15:42] well, i guess it's rather because something at the system level (or maybe even firmware) is killing the screen content in response to lid-close before we have a chance to intercept it [15:42] how are other screensavers handling that? [15:43] "poorly" [15:43] :-/ [15:43] i still see gnome-shell having similar problems too [15:44] k [15:44] maybe xfce? [15:44] "fun" [15:44] oki, andyrock & desrt - can you guys have a chat [15:44] it means it might not be fixable with xorg... [15:44] lets see if we can find a work around [15:44] i am indeed inclined to blame the graphics stack based on what andyrock just said [15:45] but i never looked into this myself [15:45] i can propose an ungly workaround [15:45] let's discuss after the meeting [15:45] th [15:45] basically we give the control back to lightdm/unity-greeter [15:45] x [15:45] I'm also wondering whether this can happen in all the graphic stacks... [15:45] but the session is not going to be active on resume [15:46] let's discuss later [15:46] thanks chaps [15:46] yup [15:46] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: attente [15:46] hey, not much, just gnome-software bugs [15:46] (eof) [15:46] thanks attente [15:46] good work there [15:46] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: desrt [15:46] ° bugs [15:46] ° reviews [15:46] ° some gnome-software fun [15:46] ° releases (coming today) [15:46] ° lots of cat power [15:46] ° finally got my ADP stuff set up [15:46] ␃ [15:47] thanks desrt [15:47] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: dgadomski [15:47] hey [15:47] * bug 1554004 - tested fix and prepared debdiffs for SRU [15:47] bug 1554004 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (Ubuntu Wily) "Segfault on X startup with VX900" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1554004 [15:47] and that's the only thing this week in the desktop area [15:47] sweet, thanks dgadomski [15:47] thanks [15:48] #topic FJKong === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: FJKong [15:48] hey [15:48] bug 1545910 [15:48] bug 1545910 in Ubuntu SDK IDE "Cannot input Chinese characters into TextField in a QML application" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1545910 [15:48] Cannot input Chinese characters into TextField in a QML application Edit [15:48] bug confirmed, it is caused by system environment variables problem, still need more time [15:48] Sogou IM [15:48] wrong position of candidate words when typing in texmacs [15:48] eof [15:48] thanks FJKong [15:48] #topic happyaron === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: happyaron [15:48] hi [15:49] 1. Write deploy script for the sogoupinyin VM, tired of fixing time to time [15:49] 2. Fonts work continued [15:49] 3. Bug fixes for Ubuntu Kylin [15:49] 4. Planning of LTS translation, will follow up when NUDT has new update, might need to go to Changsha [15:49] over [15:49] thanks happyaron [15:49] #topic hikiko === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: hikiko [15:49] hi [15:49] last week: [15:49] * wrote shadows for windows that have alpha and don't provide any shape information (it works with most windows but it can't be merged before I fix the corner cases) [15:49] * fixed the black dots (but it seems that we can't merge it either: there was another mp for that bug that was rejected before mine because the change affects other plugins, so I plan to push a relevant change after the ezoom and then merge it (since we can temporary hide the problem with marco's trick). [15:49] this week: [15:49] * I stopped the shadows/gtk related work and went back to the ezoom development: I am trying to fix a blocking bug I have nux-side + multimonitor issues to move on. [15:50] eof [15:50] thanks hikiko [15:50] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: Laney [15:50] hi [15:50] • Spent probably 50% of the week working on creating a 'frontend' load balanced http server thing for appstream. I'm waiting on some RTs to test this now. [15:50] • Fixed missing files in gst-bad, reworked the packaging to reduce the risk of that happening again [15:50] • Reverted font to previous version, new one was buggy [15:50] • Rebuilds and tracking (autopkgtests etc) for poppler migration [15:50] • Merge of webkit2gtk [15:50] • Couple of icon fixes for appstream [15:50] • Merge of gtk+3.0 gnome-terminal [15:50] • Was trying to test that last one when my desktop shat itself and now one of the monitors won't work [15:51] • FFe reviews [15:51] 🙚 [15:51] :) thanks Laney [15:51] #topic qengho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: qengho [15:51] - IN-POGRESSS: trying to get chromium 49 security update out the door. gtk3 theme support not working. pdf trouble. [15:52] - IN-PROGRESS: self-review. [15:52] - TODO: finish snap package [15:52] EOF [15:52] thanks qengho [15:52] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: seb128 [15:52] • one vac day [15:52] • investigated some gnome-calendar segfaults/helped to get some fixes upstream and backported those [15:52] • looked a bit at snappy-by-default (ffe waiting) and upgrades questions [15:52] • got pulled in some meetings about the previous item [15:52] • sponsored an xchat-gnome segfault fix + SRU [15:52] • debuggged some gnome-software issues (mostly with the updates list), suggested some formatting change (waiting for review) and reported server problems which got resolved since thanks to bdmurray [15:52] • bugs triaging/debugging/upstreaming [15:53] [15:53] thanks seb128 [15:53] #topic Sweet5hark1 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: Sweet5hark1 [15:54] we'll come back... [15:54] #topic TheMuso === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: TheMuso [15:54] * Filed MIR for valadoc as is a build dep of a11y-profile-manager that I missed... Some issues need resolving there, so will look into. I'm considering dropping the dep and shipping docs with my tarballs as a work-around. [15:54] * Started digging into why some indicator menu items, particularly those with icons, are not being spoken by Orca. Seems its something within the GTK GMenuModel code, need to see if I can reproduce with newer gtk first. [15:54] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: tkamppeter [15:54] - More testing for distribution-independent printer driver packaging. [15:54] - Communication with potential students for this year's Google Summer of Code. [15:54] - Bugs. [15:54] #topic Trevinho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: Trevinho [15:55] zzZZzz [15:55] please paste your updates later... [15:55] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: robert_ancell [15:55] - GNOME Software work [15:55] - LightDM 1.17.6 release [15:55] - Simple Scan 3.19.92 release [15:55] - Fixing use of $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP [15:56] #topic any other business === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-15 | Current topic: any other business [15:56] I've got to run [15:56] I would like to discuss nautilus [15:56] but reviews should be out to you later this week [15:56] but can do after the meeting [15:56] oki, let me end it now and then I will come back and read later on [15:56] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks [15:56] Meeting ended Tue Mar 15 15:56:32 2016 UTC. [15:56] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-03-15-15.31.moin.txt [15:56] thanks all [15:56] bbl [15:56] maybe desrt Laney attente can help there [15:56] willcooke: sorry [15:56] thanks [15:56] · Final review for launcher bottom, with few fixes [15:56] · Various compiz reviews [15:56] · Proper headerbar theming for maximized windows in unity (toolbar mode) [15:56] · New unity and compiz landing [15:56] good work Trevinho ;-) [15:57] nautilus? [15:57] I don't know what to do there [15:57] summary is that we have 3.14 [15:57] Trevinho: EOF? /me would dump his items too still. [15:57] which is using the gtkplacesidebar widget [15:57] OEF :) [15:57] EOF [15:58] - LibreOffice snap (adding l10n, etc.) [15:58] - upstream code review [15:58] - patch backporting [15:58] - some upstream refactoring [15:58] - board call, ESC call [15:58] EOF [15:58] or that widget got changed in incompatible ways in gtk 3.16 -> 3.18 [15:58] shrug [15:58] noisy channel :p [15:58] hard to be around during a meeting... [15:58] what is the problem with the widget? [15:58] * seb128 shakes fist to Sweet5hark1 and Trevinho to not be around and they screw the topic I'm trying to bring [15:59] it was a menu [15:59] it's a popover now [15:59] which is ok [15:59] but they changed the update function that is used to add items to the sidebar [15:59] which nautilus is using [15:59] that takes some new widget now [15:59] * Sweet5hark1 prepares a nice tea for seb128 and a buys him a freshly baked cookie .... [15:59] seb128: sorry... I was around, but I was about to restart compiz... which crashed :-/ [15:59] which is gaction based [16:00] or nautilus 3.14 is not gaction based [16:00] so I don't see an easy way to build the items to feed to the new version of the widget [16:00] you can manually pack things in there, but then you are on your own [16:01] and I didn't manage to make the list look consistent then [16:02] seb128: this is supposed to be for adding bookmarks like through the menu? [16:02] no [16:02] it's used to add the "browse network" item in the list [16:02] and context actions [16:02] like eject on the trash [16:02] or format on drives [16:05] https://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=8bbb1b4270fd31bff11c3a00de481e86d0090f4a is the nautilus fix [16:05] but that doesn't apply to our codebase since its not ported to gaction [16:06] I tried to copy GtkPlacesSidebar from gtk 3.16 in nautilus and build a copy of the widget reanmed to NautilusPlacesSiderbar [16:06] but that uses gtktrask and gtkbookmarks and other private gtk files [16:07] and it started feeling like a bit too much code copy [16:07] unsure if somebody has a clever idea? the solutions I see are [16:07] - manually manage to pack things in the popover that look similar to the convenient api [16:07] which I didn't manage to do [16:08] - do a copy of the old widget, but it's quite some code to copy and I hit errors [16:08] - do without those items, but they are quite important [16:09] - update nautilus, but then we get the new version mostly untested, which known issues and without menubar [16:09] - ? [16:10] what were the issues with the first approach? [16:10] well [16:10] upstream pack those https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkModelButton.html [16:10] which is gaction based [16:10] if you try to pack a normal button the popover looks weird [16:10] like the button is not having the same padding/marging/color/style than the other items [16:12] ok, so what about porting those buttons over to gactions? [16:13] so just a partial porting? [16:13] I guess that would work [16:13] I was just thinking about that [16:13] yeah, doesn't have to be everything, just the features we wanted to keep [16:13] would there be a side effect of throwing some gactions in there? [16:14] i assume the gactions would just do the same thing that a button click would do [16:14] but maybe i don't fully understand the problem [16:15] I'm going to have a try, I though a first disgarded it because I was considering porting to gaction too much work [16:15] but it's true we don't need to that [16:15] we can just add a few ones for the callback [16:15] thanks attente! [16:16] ok, good luck seb128 :) [16:16] thanks :-) [16:17] Trevinho, you broke the unity translations in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/revision/4072 [16:17] seb128: yeah, it was somewhat what I was expecting [16:17] Trevinho, dh_translation is not smart enough to follow variables [16:17] seb128: sooo? [16:18] can we put it back to have GETTEXT_DOMAIN to be "unity"? [16:18] seb128: ok [16:18] maybe with a comment to not change it :p [16:18] seb128: in cmakefile, right? [16:18] seb128: can you propose a branch for that, or should I? [16:19] Trevinho, I can do it [16:19] Trevinho, but if you want to do it feel free I can also approve [16:19] as you prefer [16:19] it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1557081 btw [16:19] Launchpad bug 1557081 in unity (Ubuntu) "Empty trash no translation on unity 7.4.0" [High,New] [16:28] seb128: I'm fine with approving yours :) [16:28] Trevinho, k, going to do that in a bit [16:28] desrt: also gtk_css_style_change_affects is only in upstream gtk.. [17:06] intriguing [17:07] hdmi works, mini dp doesn't [17:09] is that an hardware issue? [17:09] dunno, i don't have anything else to test it with [17:10] the software stack changed? [17:10] if it was working with 15.10 try from a livecd? [17:10] i'm making a 14.04.0 one now === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [17:38] might be some monitor weirdness [17:39] did you try turning it off and on? [17:39] :p [17:39] many times [17:40] :-/ [17:40] did you find something though [17:40] that you said weirdness [17:40] not really [17:40] rather than failure [17:41] it works on hdmi but not dp [17:41] could still be some hardware failure [17:41] but on dp it also broke the other monitor (dvi) from showing [17:42] under nouveau [17:42] desrt: I've updated https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/gtk/unity-border-radius-support/+merge/288331 [17:42] on nvidia it just couldnt be activated [17:42] bleh [17:47] desrt: also this one might be for you https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/gtk/unity-maximized-headerbar-buttons-hide/+merge/288552 [17:57] i call this a day [17:57] 'night [17:57] see ya andyrock === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:01] night andyrock [18:01] me too, got to fit in climbing before pub quiz [18:01] bue! [18:01] Laney, do you consider porting wxwidget from gst0.10 to 1.0 as a feature? [18:01] Laney, 1329779 [18:01] bug #1329779 [18:01] bug 1329779 in wxwidgets3.0 (Ubuntu) "Sync from Debian Unstable | Migrate to gstreamer 1.0" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1329779 [18:01] bah [18:01] I dunno [18:01] but do it [18:02] k :p [18:02] someone should test those bits [18:02] byes [18:02] enjoy climbing and quiz! [18:02] night Laney [18:37] Sweet5hark1, you are handling https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/1548647 right? [18:37] Launchpad bug 1548647 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice uses breeze style" [High,Confirmed] [18:37] Sweet5hark1, or asked differently no need to keep sponsors subscribed? [18:43] seb128: yes [18:44] Sweet5hark1, thanks! [18:44] seb128: is already commited locally even [18:44] even better [19:25] chrisccoulson, any chance of getting this in for 16.04? https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/firefox/bookmarks-update/+merge/286633 [19:47] Ok so are there any reason at all for the constant update packages for Ubuntu? I try to use this for hosting servers and I keeps updating crap! This is supposed to be something better then Microsoft! [19:48] Oh, maybe the wrong channel sorry! [19:56] Merkabah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates [20:15] seb128, hi, are you taking care of unity-control-center landing (with GunnarHj's and robert_ancell's changes), or can I do that? [20:15] mitya57, please do it [20:15] thanks ;-) [20:16] speaking of [20:16] hey robert_ancell :-) [20:16] seb128, yo [20:17] robert_ancell, thanks for the MPs btw :) [20:17] mitya57, np [20:18] hey robert_ancell [20:18] willcooke, hi [20:18] the gangs all here [20:18] seb128, with the window scaling and the greeter MP - does the greeter not set XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity? [20:21] grepping suggests it does not.. [20:21] It probably should set XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity:UnityGreeter [20:28] robert_ancell, [20:28] $ sudo strings /proc/`pidof unity-greeter`/environ | grep XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP [20:28] $ [20:44] mitya57, seb128, regarding https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/unity-control-center/not-overwrite-XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP/+merge/288709 - is there a reason why we don't just drop that entire line? [20:45] If the greeter session doesn't have XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP then the panels which have OnlyShowIn=Unity in their desktop file won't be shown [20:51] mitya57, this is u-c-c though, which doesn't run in the greeter [20:52] Sorry, s/greeter/Ubiquity session/ [20:53] That line was introduced for installer session and I don't think anything changed since then. [21:00] robert_ancell, it's "ubiquity only" which is a custom session started in some old way I think, I don't think they use lightdm [21:02] setenv is just one line and completely harmless for sessions where it's already set, so it's OK to keep it in my opinion [21:04] robert_ancell, mvo, do you have any opinion about potentially replacing the apt-pkgkitcompat by packagekit in xenial? [21:05] mitya57, just asking because it's a bit confusing to read. Might be worth putting a comment beside it [21:05] seb128, I'm for it if it works [21:05] k, need to try it [21:05] the motivation is because click has a packagekit backend but that doesn't work with the compat layer [21:06] so unity8 session don't have click working [21:06] until user swap the bits [21:06] would make easier to have co-working sessions [21:06] seb128, this is PK 1.0 right? [21:06] no [21:06] robert_ancell, too late for adding a comment, I don't want to trigger new builds and these ones are mostly finished :) [21:06] 0. [21:06] 0.8 [21:06] 1.0 drops the backend support [21:06] which click needs [21:07] seb128, does 0.8 work OK for installing / removing stuff? [21:07] I don't know, that was part of the question :p [21:07] you played with packagekit in g-s before going the apt backend way [21:07] but you had 1.0 in the ppa I guess? [21:10] seb128: no opinion, do whatever you guys think is best [21:10] mvo, thanks [21:13] seb128, yeah, 1.0 in the PPA [21:13] did you try/play with 0.8? [21:14] I think that's not really a good option, it's old/unmaintained [21:14] seb128, not really, but I had heard it wasn't really good enough [21:14] we might better stay on our compat layer [21:14] seb128, yeah, that's my point, if we drop the compat layer I think we have to go 1.0 [21:14] that makes sense, thanks [21:14] Which is very desirable, but sounds too risky if no-one is working on ti [21:14] well, it brings us back to our main issue [21:14] and the click issue [21:15] to work click needs packagekit integration [21:15] right [21:16] robert_ancell, thanks [21:17] robert_ancell, other question .... gnome-software, do you plan to land your get_changelog fixes this week? [21:17] seb128, yes [21:18] robert_ancell, also do you know if missing screenshots is a known issue/something people are looking at [21:18] some are displayed [21:18] but e.g cheese has some in other distro and software-center but none in gnome-software [21:19] if you use appstreamcli it lists a valid one [21:20] seb128, oh weird. Yes, cheese has valid screenshots, but confirming they're not showing in g-s [21:20] I will investigate [21:20] thanks [21:20] seb128, can you open a bug? [21:20] sure [21:22] same issue for eog file-roller etc [21:24] robert_ancell, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1557752 [21:24] Launchpad bug 1557752 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "screenshot missing for softwares that should have one (cheese, eog, etc)" [Undecided,New] [21:24] on that note calling it a day [21:25] seb128, ta [21:25] have a good night there! [21:25] seb128, bye [21:28] desrt: hi! I'm trying to run something under confinement and see: GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications. [21:29] desrt: is there an env var or something I should be using? [21:29] this happens because dconf is not installed inside of the container [21:30] dconf-gsettings-backend ? [21:30] sounds right [21:30] ok, thanks [21:31] (btw, this isn't a container, it is a snap, but same thing applies) [22:00] night all