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hadrienHi, I realized how bad Android is in terms of privacy and i'm definitely willing to replace it. Do you know if Ubuntu is better ?02:18
RAOFThere's certainly less that applications can slurp without your knowledge.02:24
hadrienRAOF : Are you aware of any other linux alternatives to android ?02:28
RAOFThere's Sailfish02:28
hadrienI've heard of people installing kali linux on their phone but I guess, they can't use their phone as a ...well, phone anymore02:28
hadrienThank you for your response RAOF, I'm fairly new to linux so I guess I must come up as an annoying idiot... I'll definitely be looking into Sailfish and Ubuntu Touch !02:31
lotuspsychjehttp://linux.softpedia.com/blog/canonical-our-first-ever-ubuntu-tablet-bq-aquaris-m10-will-be-available-soon-501735.shtml03:16
kivi!ping07:08
ubot5pong!07:08
kiviHey I have ubuntu installed on my nexus4. I have tried tethering with it, but I havn't been able to get it to work. I have tried using the phone tweak app, and using the adb command on ubuntu. Neither work.07:09
kiviIt detects it as ethernet, but does not automatically connect.07:09
kivi!tether07:37
[tj]moin08:37
Stanley00kivi: you can try this one, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-property-service/+bug/1427697/comments/509:07
ubot5Launchpad bug 1427697 in dbus-property-service (Ubuntu) "Malformed /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/tethering on mako" [High,Confirmed]09:07
kiviStanley00, thanks09:07
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efrahimHi, I have had an update on my BQ E5 for a while now (end of Feb.) that says "Ubuntu Version: 10", but OTA-10 is not relseased yet. Where can I find out what this update is?09:33
Stanley00efrahim: it's OTA-9.1 https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en/vegetahd/version-10.json09:36
efrahimStanley00: ok, thanks.09:37
kivi!ping09:58
ubot5pong!09:58
oSoMoNmorphis, hey, I’m looking at https://launchpad.net/bugs/1553657 , and chrisccoulson suggested that mako might not have an updated android image with the entry points we need in hybris, could you maybe confirm?10:24
ubot5Launchpad bug 1553657 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "Clicking on camera & microphone settings crashes app" [Critical,Confirmed]10:24
iahmadpopey, ping11:01
popeyhello11:01
iahmadpopey, could you please point me to design/functional specs and/or test plan for uNav, needed this for OTA10 testing11:02
popeyTest plan isn't complete yet. Not aware of design/functional spec docs.11:03
iahmadpopey, ok, who you think I should talk to, to find out about design specs?11:05
popeyiahmad: you're assuming there _are_ design specs11:13
MCMicIs there any plans for uNav to allow downloading maps and work offline?11:17
iahmadpopey, yeah, may be I am assuming too much :-)11:17
bshahkind of noob question : but is there any place or something which let me know what changelog for : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/ ?11:19
ogra_bshah, http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/11:26
bshahogra_: cool thanks11:27
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Mirvtsdgeos: can you test bug #1556842 using silo 005 when you have time? I'll start autopilot testing today/tomorrow and if all goes fine I'll eventually do the final builds and start putting towards QA.12:25
ubot5bug 1556842 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu RTM) "Backport patch so that forceLayout calls layout on more occasions" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155684212:25
Mirvtsdgeos: the vivid part of the silo also fixes bug #1540423 and bug #154134612:26
ubot5bug 1540423 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu RTM) "QQuickRepeater breaks in asynchronous component creation." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154042312:26
ubot5bug 1541346 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu RTM) "qmlplugindump can not correctly handle singleton types" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154134612:26
tsdgeosMirv: i will12:26
tsdgeostx12:26
om26eroSoMoN, Hi!12:49
oSoMoNhey om26er, what’s up?12:49
om26eroSoMoN, is there a way to fill downloads history with dummy data ?12:49
om26eroSoMoN, I am thinking maybe a database snapshot will help ?12:52
oSoMoNom26er, the downloads database is a sqlite one, it lives under ~/.local/share/webbrowser-app/downloads.sqlite, so you could pre-populate it with dummy data, yes12:52
oSoMoNom26er, is that in the context of autopilot tests?12:52
om26eroSoMoN, yes, that's correct.12:52
oSoMoNom26er, then you can do something similar to what PrepopulatedDatabaseTestCaseBase does, in https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/view/head:/tests/autopilot/webbrowser_app/tests/test_keyboard.py#L2912:54
om26eroSoMoN, for that I would have to understand the internals of the downloads database, I'll first check if just replacing the downloads.sqlite works for me.12:57
dpmseb128, Laney, hi! do you happen to know which package the strings for the first time wizard on the phone come from? Was it unity8 or ubuntu-system-settings?12:57
seb128dpm, unity812:57
seb128since vivid12:57
dpmthanks seb12812:57
seb128yw12:57
oSoMoNom26er, sure, that’s12:59
oSoMoNanother valid solution12:59
dpmSaviq, there are some new strings for the phone wizard in unity8, which were shown at MWC. bq are asking about translations, and I'm trying to figure out if these are in Launchpad, or if we can do a manual update of the template to at least reflect the new strings there.12:59
dpmSaviq, do you have any pointers to branches that are pending landing that modified strings in unity8?12:59
popeydpm: it's in ubuntu-system-settings-wizard I think?13:00
dpmoh13:00
dpmpopey, hm, not sure that source package exists in LP13:00
popeyhm, that's the last place I knew it.13:02
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jibeldpm, the wizard is in unity813:08
dpmjibel, yeah, found it, thanks. I just can't find atm which branch the "Drag using 3 fingers [...]" string comes from that they need translated for their manual13:09
jibeldpm, maybe it's some changes in silo 41 ?13:09
jibeldpm, I confirm that this string is in silo 41 https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_39a8dbb93caf4ec889f8a1b7f69885db/bileto-1105/2016-03-15_12:55:23/vivid/unity8/content.diff13:12
jibeldpm, so wait until it lands13:13
dpmjibel, awesome, thanks. Also, would you happen to know which package introduced these strings? http://i.imgur.com/Ud6ZwmL.png I'm thinking indicator-display, but I don't see any new stings in the template13:13
mardycharles_, tedg: hi! How far is https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/dbus-test-runner/support-gtestdbus-and-dbusmock-templates/+merge/271834 from landing? I suddenly would find it quite useful :-)13:13
jibeldpm, yeah, I'd say indicator-display too13:13
dpmjibel, just to have a rough idea, do we have an ETA for silo 41 landing?13:14
jibeldpm, I really hope it'll be ready for testing today. We're already far past feature freeze13:15
jibeldpm, desktop mode toggle should also be in 4113:16
jibeljust too many branches13:16
dpmoh, good13:16
jibeldpm, ah, here you go https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_39a8dbb93caf4ec889f8a1b7f69885db/bileto-1105/2016-03-15_12:55:23/vivid/indicator-session/content.diff13:17
jibelindicator-session it is13:17
dpmawesome, thanks a lot jibel!13:17
jibelit'd be nice to land new strings *before* string freeze13:18
tedgmardy: I think the answer is that charles_ and I both forgot about it :-)13:21
seb128jibel, dpm, Saviq, that changeset seems buggy, if I read it correctly it's going to change the "about this computer" to "about this device" on unity713:22
jibelmzanetti, ^13:22
mardytedg: is it just a matter of approving it, or do you still need to review it properly?13:22
mzanettiseb128, yeah... is that a problem?13:23
tedgmardy: I think it's just getting it landed, but I'm not sure that this could land in Xenial.13:23
seb128mzanetti, I doubt unity7 is going to be used on any "device", that feels like a confusing change for this context13:24
dpmjibel, agreed!13:24
mzanettiseb128, is a laptop not a device?13:24
tedgmardy: Let me talk more to charles_, he should be in shortly.13:24
seb128mzanetti, if you ask computer users I'm ready to bet they wouldn't call a laptop or desktop a device13:24
dpmseb128, I think I'll leave that one to the design team.13:24
mardytedg: ok. It's no big deal, but it would help, to have it in xenial and in the vivid phablet ppa13:24
mzanettiseb128, so what do you propose? have "about this computer" on a phone?13:24
mzanettiIMHO a laptop is very well a device13:25
mzanettiat least that's less confusing as calling everything a computer13:25
seb128mzanetti, I'm just speaking about unity713:25
seb128mzanetti, you have other actions that check if they are in a mir environment13:26
seb128do the same here?13:26
seb128mzanetti, in any case xenial is in UIfreeze so you need a UIFe to land that change13:26
seb128even if it's right13:26
seb128so get one register and design to weight in13:26
BluewolfHi all13:43
BluewolfDoes ubuntu-touch OS come with certain phones or can it be install on any smartphone?13:46
lotuspsychje!devices | Bluewolf13:46
ubot5Bluewolf: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices13:46
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morphisoSoMoN: what specific symbols from hybris/android are we talking about? we've just landed another android package in rc-proposed13:50
morphisoSoMoN: and that package should include everything I got from the camera guys13:51
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oSoMoNmorphis, from a quick grep, it looks like oxide uses only hybris_camera_initialize and hybris_egl_display_get_mapping14:04
morphisoSoMoN: https://code.launchpad.net/~libhybris-maintainers/libhybris/+git/libhybris/+ref/master has what is currently in rc-proposed14:05
morphisoSoMoN: I must sadly say I don't have much insight into which methods are used for what and where14:05
morphisoSoMoN: but do you have a more detailed backtrace somewhere?14:06
oSoMoNmorphis, unfortunately I don’t, because I don’t have a nexus 4 myself14:06
BluewolfSo I take it that ubuntu touch does not work on lower end smartphones - E.g: Samsung Galaxy Core Prime?14:09
mterryLaney: Saviq had gotten an FFe for a silo we're landing (silo 41).  But now I'm wondering if that was an FFe just for OTA 10 or also for the xenial side of things.  Do you know anything about that?  Should I file a normal FFe for geonames and indicator-session in that silo?14:12
Laneymterry: I have no idea what an FFe for OTA even means14:13
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mterryLaney: just that OTAs have their own FF.  And we're landing the silo after that (for the OTA timeframe)14:14
mterryLaney: ok, will file proper xenial FFe once LP stops giving me timeouts14:14
Laneymterry: okay, nothing to do with the ubuntu release team I don't think14:14
mterryLaney: no, not the OTA side.  I just didn't know if Saviq also cleared things on your side.  Sounds like no14:15
LaneyDon't know, what's the bug?14:15
Laneysee if an ubuntu-release member responded on there14:15
mterryLaney: I don't have the ffe bug yet, LP is being a punk14:15
mterryLaney: I don't think the OTA FFe went through a bug14:15
mterryso I'm going to file a new one for the xenial stuff14:16
oSoMoNmorphis, do you have a nexus 4 on which you could test that, by any chance?14:16
Laneyokay, if there was a normal one then there would be a bug to look at14:16
Laneyso if not then I guess assume no14:16
dobey!devices | Bluewolf14:17
ubot5Bluewolf: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices14:17
Bluewolfdobey: Yeah I've already read through it. Though my understanding is somewhat limited.14:19
mterryLaney: well I don't know if there was an original bug or not, I'm just guessing not, since you don't now anything about it (Saviq is on vacation)14:29
morphisoSoMoN: yes, but not much time right now14:29
morphisoSoMoN: so this doesn't occur on other devices?14:30
faenilbregma: ping about Libertine on laptop14:30
oSoMoNmorphis, not on any of the device I have handy (MX4, E4.5, nexus7, M10)14:31
morphisoSoMoN: nexus7 uses the same code base as nexus 414:31
oSoMoNmorphis, there’s no urgency, but if you can take a look later this week that’d be much appreciated14:31
bregmafaenil, yes?14:31
oSoMoNmorphis, let me test again on that device14:32
faenilbregma: followed your instructions but 1) scope is empty, 2) I don't know what libertine is expecting as "installed apps", 3) looking for apps always returns no result14:33
faenil"You can use the Libertine App to install and remove applications"14:34
bregmafaenil, you mean the app search function in the Libertine app itself returns no results?14:34
bregmathe Libertine scope will be empty until you create a container and install apps into it14:34
faenilI created a container, but I don't see how I can install apps14:35
faenilsupposedly the "+" button would show me apps I can install14:35
morphisoSoMoN: but could be that one of the new things developed for the camera stuff wasn't really tested on mako14:36
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bregmafaenil, the '+' button on the 'My Containers' page will add another container, but if you sdwipe a container entry left it should reveal a pencilish icon that should bring you to a 'Classic Apps' page, where the '+' icons lets you install apps14:38
faenilbregma: there's no way to select the container, I just get the "Classic Apps" page14:39
faeniland using the + there doesn't return anything14:39
faenilinstall apps is emtpy14:39
faenilempty, even14:39
bregmahuh, weird14:40
oSoMoNmorphis, ha, I got the crash on nexus 7 too, I’ll investigate from there14:40
morphisoSoMoN: good14:40
bregmafaenil, the gear menu on 'Classic Apps' should also let you get to the 'My Containers' screen14:42
faenilbregma: no, the gear menu says "Please enter the exact package name of the app to install:"14:42
faenilah yes on the Classic Apps, yes14:43
faenilbregma: should I change something in the container?14:43
bregmafaenil, we need design review of this app for a reason14:43
faenilbregma: yeah but there's no point if it does not work :D14:43
bregmafaenil, no change in the container, I'm just trying to see if other navigation is messed up for you14:43
faenilah ok ;)14:44
bregmaif you can get the the 'Install Apps' page, you should see the magnigying glass icon that you use to search for packages14:44
bregmafaenil, you were on the 'Install Apps' page when the gear menu told you to enter the exact name of the app to install14:45
faenilbregma: yep14:46
bregmafaenil, which you could also do to install a test app, like 'gedit' or 'kpat'14:46
faenilbregma: if I click +, I get an empty Install Apps page14:46
faenilif I search for "gedit" , I get "no results"14:47
bregmafaenil, right, no search results shown14:47
bregmaI get a pagefull of search results for 'gedit'14:47
faenilI would expect Install Apps to show all the apps, or at least some info...that I can then filter using search14:47
faenilbregma: there's clearly a problem here14:47
bregmahmm, several pages, but no scrollbars:  that may be a bug14:48
bregmafaenil, yeah, it sounds like there's a problem if it finding no results14:48
charlesmardy, ted's correct, it just fell by the wayside14:49
bregmaChrisTownsend, any ideas ^^^ ?14:49
ChrisTownsendWhat kind of container is it?  LXC or chroot?14:49
faeniland the libertine log has no info at all14:50
charlesmardy, I'm not sure that there's been much action on dbus-test-runner since then, so it might be relatively easy to resync with trunk and test. If you have a need for this and want to expedite by branching and taking up the slack on this I'd be quite happy about it :)14:50
mterryLaney: filed bug 1557557, would appreciate a look if you have time14:50
ubot5bug 1557557 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) "[FFe] geonames & indicator-session (silo 41)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155755714:50
oSoMoNmorphis, where can I get debug symbols for /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libcamera.so.1 ?14:51
ChrisTownsendfaenil: What distro is the laptop using?  Did you create the container via the gui?14:51
faenilChrisTownsend: xenial, yes container using UI14:51
morphisoSoMoN: from the libmedia/libhybris-dbgsym package14:51
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ok, then the most likely issue is that the container is not starting, so you don't get any search results.  LXC is very, uh, finicky.14:51
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Have you applied xenial updates recently?14:52
dobeypstolowski, mzanetti: so maybe store is blank because of current network issues14:52
faenilChrisTownsend: yes, yesterday14:52
faenilwhen I installed libertine14:52
ChrisTownsendfaenil: And did you reboot?14:52
faenilyes14:53
mzanettidobey, yeah, everything seems to fail atm14:53
dobeyindeed14:53
faenilalthough this is the team laptop and has got a bunch of silos on it, so I wouldn't be surprised if something else broke the thing14:53
pstolowskidobey, i saw it too last week, but was on old image. flashed today but no change14:53
faenilI've just noticed it also has the ppa overlay :|14:54
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Hmm, ok.  Then let's try to see if the container does indeed start.  From the command line, do a "libertine-container-manager list"14:54
charlesis irc.canonical.com down for everyone or just me?14:54
mardycharles: ok, I'll see if I find some time :-)14:54
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Then give me the name of the container and then I'll give you a command to run.14:54
faenilChrisTownsend: update returns "Container failed to start"14:54
pstolowskidobey, hmm, right, doesn't work even on the phone now14:55
faenilfeel free to hand out commands14:55
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ok, so it is failing to start, now to try to figure out why with the cryptic LXC output.   Once you give me the container name, I'll give the command.14:55
faenilok14:55
faenilxenial is the name14:55
* bregma shakes a fist at LXC14:56
faenilbut you can also give me parametric commands :P14:56
ChrisTownsendfaenil: lxc-start -n xenial -P ~/.cache/libertine-container --logfile start_xenial.out --logpriority DEBUG14:56
faenilok14:56
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Then pastebin the output in that file.14:56
ChrisTownsendbregma: +100000014:57
faenillxc-start --> "executing /sbin/init with no configuration file may crash the host14:58
faenilChrisTownsend: ^14:58
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Umm, that doesn't seem right.   Could you do a ls -la ~/.cache/libertine-container ?14:59
faenilthere's no libertine container14:59
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Well, that certainly explains why it won't start:)  But why did it fail?   Let's try this.15:00
faenil:)15:00
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Do "libertine-container-manager create -i libertine-test -n "Libertine Test" -t lxc -d xenial"15:01
faenilok15:01
faenilChrisTownsend: it was instantaneous, and still no folder15:02
oSoMoNmorphis, I’m getting a backtrace that looks like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15392198/ , how do I get symbols for frame 0 ?15:02
ChrisTownsendfaenil: But no output like a failure stack trace?15:02
faenilnope15:02
ChrisTownsend:-(15:02
* ChrisTownsend Thinks15:02
bregmacuriouser and curiouser15:02
morphisoSoMoN: that is then on the android side15:02
faenildoes it use lxc client?15:03
faenilbecause "lxc: command not found"15:03
ChrisTownsendfaenil: No, it uses the python3-lxc library.15:03
faenilok15:03
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Could you give the output of apt-cache policy libertine?15:03
ChrisTownsendfaenil: And dpkg -l | grep libertine15:04
faenilcoming from xenial archive15:04
faenil02 March15:04
faenil0.9915:04
oSoMoNmorphis, ok, can you point me at instructions on how to investigate further? I’m afraid I’ve never done that before, so I will need a bit of help15:04
morphisoSoMoN: searching them right now15:04
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ok, sounds right.15:04
faenilpython module is installed15:04
ChrisTownsendfaenil: It didn't ask you for a password in the create command?15:05
faenilyes it did15:05
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ok15:05
morphisoSoMoN: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Core/UbuntuDebugAndroid15:05
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Could you run the command again and see what "echo $?" is?15:05
morphisoSoMoN: the only downside is that you have to build the device tarball yourself to get the debugging symbols15:06
faenilit says that the id is already used, and returns 115:06
chrisccoulsonoSoMoN, morphis, I think I've missed some of this conversarion15:06
chrisccoulson**conversation15:06
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Oh, right, do a libertine-container-manager destroy -i libertine-test and then run the create command again.15:07
ChrisTownsendAnd see what the return value of create is.15:07
faenil015:07
faenilsorry :p15:07
oSoMoNchrisccoulson, I’ve managed to reproduce the crash on nexus7, the backtrace looks like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15392198/15:07
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Well, I'm certainly at a loss at the moment.15:07
chrisccoulsonoSoMoN, yeah, I'm pretty sure that trace is "android_camera_get_device_info doesn't exist on the android side"15:08
bregmamaybe try it with --verbose?15:08
faenilChrisTownsend: strace reports that it's trying to mkdir libertine-container/libertine-test15:08
faenilbut that fails15:08
faenilbecause libertine-container does not exist15:08
morphisoSoMoN: can you check the device tarball version you're on?15:08
faenilso, that should definitely be caught as error15:08
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Hmm, right, I thought I did makedirs, but you found a bug.15:09
oSoMoNmorphis, system settings say "device image part: 20160315"15:09
morphisoSoMoN: also android_camera_get_device_info is there for quite some time15:09
faenilChrisTownsend: \o/ what do I get? :)15:10
ChrisTownsendfaenil: But I would think some python backtrace would show up due to mkdir erroring out?15:10
ChrisTownsendfaenil: A gold star!15:10
bregmafaenil, the respect and admiration of your peers15:10
oSoMoNmorphis, and "device build description: aosp_flo-userdebug 4.4.2 KOT49H 20160307-0742-0ubuntu3~overlay1 test-keys"15:10
faenilbregma: that's great! :)15:10
morphisoSoMoN: as it should15:11
ChrisTownsendfaenil: If you create ~/.cache/libertine-container, does it work?15:12
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Actually, the python3-lxc library is supposed to (and used to) create that directory.15:13
dobey2016-03-15 11:11:46,454 - WARNING - file:///usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Web/UbuntuWebView02.qml:226:17: QML AbstractButton: Mixing of Ubuntu.Components module versions 1.3 and 1.2 detected!15:13
dobeyhmm, that's not nice15:13
oSoMoNmorphis, that wiki page you pointed me to says "If you have a local setup of our CyanogenMod based phablet builds…", but it doesn’t say what to do if I don’t :)15:13
morphisoSoMoN: yeah, I think that is the point then where I should better look into this15:14
morphisoSoMoN: however against which hybris version is oxide compiled currently?15:14
oSoMoNlet me check15:14
morphisthe camera ABI broke with the changes chrisccoulson did recently15:14
faenilChrisTownsend: sorry was afk, I was about to try creating the folder15:15
ChrisTownsendfaenil: No worries15:15
bregmafaenil, is $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR set in your environment?15:15
faenilChrisTownsend: yeah it's downloading the img now15:15
bregmaI've encountered odd troubles in LXC when that's not set15:16
oSoMoNmorphis, oxide 1.12.7-0ubuntu0.15.04.1~overlay1 was built againt libhybris 0.1.0+git20151016+6d424c9-0ubuntu6~overlay1 according to https://launchpadlibrarian.net/242318000/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-armhf.oxide-qt_1.12.7-0ubuntu0.15.04.1~overlay1_BUILDING.txt.gz15:16
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ok, great.  Then once that's done, you can use it from the gui, or destroy and create a new one, or whatever you'd like to do.  But yeah, as bregma pointed out, see if $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is set.15:17
morphisoSoMoN: wow, that is old15:17
morphisoSoMoN: so we really need a rebuild15:17
faenilDownloading rootfs without progress :(15:18
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Blame lxc for that:)15:18
oSoMoNmorphis, wait, how old? that’s the version that is in the overlay PPA15:18
oSoMoNhttps://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+sourcepub/6055919/+listing-archive-extra15:18
morphisah sorry15:18
morphisthe 2015 in it confused me15:18
morphisbut that is just where we sync with upstream last time15:19
morphisoSoMoN: anything interesting on logcat output?15:20
morphisoSoMoN: btw. https://git.launchpad.net/~libhybris-maintainers/libhybris/+git/libhybris/log/compat/camera are the recent changes to the camera tree15:20
oSoMoNmorphis, how do I get logcat output? adb logcat says "/bin/bash: line 0: exec: logcat: not found"15:22
morphisoSoMoN: and btw.15:22
morphis#0  0x00000000 in ?? ()15:22
morphis#1  0xad081432 in android_camera_get_device_info (n1=0, n2=0x9acefaac, n3=<optimized out>) at camera.c:3415:22
morphisthat doesn't necessary say the function libhybris calls is not there on the other side15:23
morphisoSoMoN: adb shell /system/bin/logcat15:23
oSoMoNmorphis, nothing in logcat15:23
morphisnothing obvious or nothing as in empty?15:24
oSoMoNmorphis, nothing as in empty15:27
morphisoSoMoN: then run logcat with sudo15:27
faenilChrisTownsend: bregma failed to start container, after it downloaded/unpacked the rootfs and tried starting it15:29
faenilXDG_RUNTIME_DIR is /run/user/100015:29
oSoMoNmorphis, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15392457/ , nothing appears to stand out15:30
morphisoSoMoN: yeah15:31
morphisoSoMoN: I will have a look15:31
oSoMoNthanks15:31
oSoMoNmorphis, mind if I assign the bug to you? I added a libhybris task to it15:31
oSoMoN(you can assign back to me once the issue is identified)15:31
morphisoSoMoN: assign the libhybris aprt to me15:31
oSoMoNok15:32
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ok, then we need to do "lxc-start -n libertine-test -P ~/.cache/libertine-container --logfile start_xenial.out --logpriority DEBUG"15:32
faenilah right :)15:33
faenilfailed initializing cgroup support15:34
faenilno systemd controller mountpoint found15:34
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Hmm, well, try a reboot of the system and try it again.  If it fails again, then we should probably enter an LXC bug.15:35
faenillet me log in to unity7 so I can have terminal..15:35
faenilok15:35
faenilpastebin.ubuntu.com/15392500 ChrisTownsend15:37
ChrisTownsendfaenil: That was after a reboot, right?15:37
faenilno15:38
faenilI'm rebooting now15:38
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ok15:38
faenilChrisTownsend: same errors I believe15:42
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ok, well, the only thing is to enter a bug report against the lxc package and provide that log.15:43
faenilok15:43
ChrisTownsendfaenil: But in the meantime, you can create a chroot container by hand and then use the gui to manage it.15:44
ChrisTownsendfaenil: libertine-container-manager create -i xenial-chroot -n "Xenial Chroot" -t chroot -d xenial15:45
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faenilok15:45
ChrisTownsendfaenil: I understand you will be working on a design review of Libertine, right?15:45
faenilI'm setting up the laptop, not sure who's assigned to the review, I'm a developer not a designer ;)15:46
faenilalthough I work in the Design Team :)15:46
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ah, lol, ok15:46
faenilChrisTownsend: I tried to hint that you could go on with cmdline, but I didn't want to sound rude :D15:46
faenil(although I'm not familiar with lxc and lxd :P)15:47
ChrisTownsendfaenil: lol, got it now:)15:47
faenil:)15:48
faenilI will leave a generic description message, someone with more insight in lxc will fix it, I hope :)15:48
faenilbug title* I meant15:49
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Please give me the bug number after you file it and I'll subscribe to it.15:49
faenilofc15:49
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Thanks15:49
faenilChrisTownsend: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/155760715:55
ubot5Launchpad bug 1557607 in lxc (Ubuntu) "Xenial container fails to start" [Undecided,New]15:56
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ChrisTownsendfaenil: Thanks again15:57
faenilChrisTownsend: np! no module "libertine.ChrootContainer"15:58
faenildoes it need some kind of plugin package?15:58
faenilI guess15:58
faenilah ok found it15:58
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Oh, right, that is not pulled in automatically.  install python3-libertine-chroot15:58
faenilyep done15:58
ChrisTownsendfaenil: lol, ok15:58
faenilxenial-root is already used...mm it shouldn't really reserve IDs if the creation fails :)15:59
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Yes, something on my plate to fix:)15:59
faenilChrisTownsend: and if I try to destroy it now it says that it cannot find rootfs folder so it fails16:01
* faenil pulls out the whip :D16:01
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Oh, for goodness sakes16:01
* lotuspsychje runs n hide16:01
faeniland the create command now fails saying that I'm passing 4 params and it should be 1-316:02
ChrisTownsendfaenil: You can manually edit ~/.local/share/libertine/ContainersConfig.json and remove that entry.16:02
faenilok16:02
ChrisTownsendfaenil: UGH!  Yes, bregma just fixed that yesterday, but it's not in the archive yet.16:03
ChrisTownsendSerious fail!16:03
faenilyay :D16:03
ChrisTownsendfaenil: How about we do this...you can add the libertine devel PPA and I'll kick off a build that fixes that issue, then you can upgrade.16:04
ChrisTownsendfaenil: ppa:libertine-team/devel16:05
* ChrisTownsend Curses broken software16:06
faenilChrisTownsend: we're not in a rush, are we?16:06
faenilI don't know hehe16:06
ChrisTownsendfaenil: I'm not sure either.16:06
faenilI mean, I don't know if anyone will be reviewing it today anyway :D16:07
faenilbut yeah let's do this16:07
ChrisTownsendfaenil: I doubt anyone will get to it today.16:07
ChrisTownsendfaenil: I kicked off a new build in that PPA.16:07
faenilok16:08
ahayzenHi, in unity8 is there a way to disconnect from a network without turning off the WiFi as in unity7?16:26
ahayzenMy scenario is i'm signed up to the local bus WiFi, but i was in a car trying todo navigation (so need the WiFi on to get the best location positioning), while driving around the device kept connecting to the bus which you then need to sign into and obviously as the bus drove away it'd then disconnect again.16:27
dobeyahayzen: you can go into wifi settings and forget the network i guess16:50
ahayzendobey, but i don't want to forget the network16:50
ahayzenwhen i'm on the bus i want to be able to connect16:50
ahayzenreally there should be a "connect automatically" option like unity716:51
dobeywell, you will be able to connect on the bus16:51
ahayzenbut i'd have to readd the WiFi connection16:51
dobeyyes16:51
ahayzenand for eduroam that is a big task to readd it every time i happen to be on campus16:51
dobeyi'm giving you a workaround16:51
ahayzenyeah i understand that, but there should be an option for "connect automatically"16:52
dobeyi'm not suggesting yo do it for every thing16:52
ahayzenas my device keeps trying to connect to eduroam/buses all around the city when i don't want it to, which is incredibly annoying and prevents apps working :-/16:53
* ahayzen searches for an existing bus16:53
ahayzen*bug16:53
Prasad123Any update on the Sony xperia Z1 ubuntu touch image?16:57
mariogripmhall119: got the new fairphone today17:01
mariogripflashing now, finger crossed17:01
davmor2mariogrip: nice :)17:02
mariogrip:)17:02
dobeyahayzen: anyway, the comparison you're making isn't quite right. it's not unity8 v unity7. it's indicator-network v nm-applet17:05
ahayzenor system settings vs gnome system settings17:06
faenilChrisTownsend: tried installing gedit, info still says "Package version: none" "Install status: installing"17:10
faenilalso tried installing firefox, in that case they're both empty17:11
faeniland title of the page says "Information for the underfined package"17:11
faenillibertine log only has an error "connection to Mir failed"17:11
faenil(the usual one that you get when you don't have a --desktop_file_hint defined"17:12
faenil)17:12
dobeyoSoMoN: around? any ideas aobut these warnings? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15393419/17:12
oSoMoNdobey, uh oh, that looks suspicious, in which context are you getting those warnings? browser, or another app?17:14
dobeyoSoMoN: in pay-ui17:14
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oSoMoNdobey, is pay-ui importing Ubuntu.Components 1.2 ?17:14
dobeyand not even yet at a point where the web view is being shown to the user. just the qml loading it i guess17:14
dobeyoSoMoN: no, it's importing Ubuntu.Components 1.117:14
oSoMoNdobey, then the easy answer is: it should be upgraded to 1.317:15
oSoMoNmixing import versions is not well supported17:15
dobeyoSoMoN: and Ubuntu.Web 0.217:15
oSoMoNand UbuntuWebView imports version 1.317:15
oSoMoNdobey, I guess pay-ui should be added to bug #150836317:19
ubot5bug 1508363 in Canonical System Image "Coordinated migration to UITK 1.3" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150836317:19
faenilmzanetti: Media Player text in Sound indicator is almost invisible on latest rc-prpoposed, known?17:20
dobeyoSoMoN: hmm, that didn't seem to get rid of most of the warnings; and doesn't help with the issues i'm trying to debug :(17:21
mzanettifaenil, hmm, not really17:21
mzanettifaenil please add it to the bug report17:21
faenilmzanetti: also unreadable text in the notifications, but that's known I believe17:21
mzanettifaenil, this is our list of known issues: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/155461617:22
ubot5Launchpad bug 1554616 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Shell and dash visual issues with new UITK and palette" [Critical,In progress]17:22
faenilyep17:22
mzanettifaenil, please add things you see but are not in there17:22
faenilok17:22
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ahayzenoh wow a progress bar while reflashing now :-)17:24
ChrisTownsendfaenil: That error is for the chroot container you created?  You may be trying to install packages on the default LXC container which is going to fail due to the LXC not starting.17:33
faenilChroot,yes17:33
ChrisTownsendfaenil: In the "Classic Apps" page, what is the name next to "Classic Apps" ?17:33
ChrisTownsendfaenil: I'm surprised about chroot failing like that.17:34
faenilxenial-chroot :P17:34
ChrisTownsendfaenil: lol, I typed that out before I saw your answer17:34
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Well, let's try it by hand again.17:34
faenil:)17:35
* faenil has 10mins left17:35
ChrisTownsendfaenil: libertine-container-manager remove-package -i xenial-chroot -p gedit17:35
ChrisTownsendThen libertine-container-manager install-package id xenial-chroot -p gedit17:35
faenil"dpkg was interrupted, you must run dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem17:36
faenilthat's when I uninstall17:36
faenilafter I run that and try again17:37
faenilI get "gedit is not installed17:37
faenil"17:37
ChrisTownsendfaenil: I've no idea what's going.  You are hitting things I've never seen before.17:37
faeniland the UI is now empty as well17:37
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ok, it's been removed from the json file.  Try installing by cmd line.17:37
faenilif I install again17:38
faenilI get same dpkg error17:38
seb128faenil, try to sudo apt-get -f install17:38
faenilseb128: didn't help17:38
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Do this:17:38
seb128what's the error exactly?17:38
faenilseb128: I posted above17:38
faenilthere's no error while running -f install17:39
ChrisTownsendlibertine-container-manager exec -i xenial-chroot -c "apt-get install -f"17:39
faenilChrisTownsend: ok, in the chroot, right17:39
ChrisTownsendseb128: It's an issue inside the Libertine chroot:)17:39
seb128ChrisTownsend, k, I see you are on it so I'm letting it in your hands ;-)17:39
ChrisTownsendseb128: lol, ok17:39
faenilChrisTownsend: same error, now I'm running configure -a inside the chroot17:40
ChrisTownsendfaenil: WTF happenend??????17:40
faeniland it did a lot of stuff but failed with libgtk-3-common17:40
faenil3 ligtk package failures17:40
faeniland 1 humanity-icon-theme17:40
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Try this: libertine-container-manager update -i xenial-chroot17:41
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Maybe the apt cache needs refreshed.17:41
faenilChrisTownsend: after --configure -a I'm now running apt-get install -f and it's asking to install mono17:41
faenilI said ok17:42
faenilnow gedit is installing17:42
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ok, I'm not sure how it got into that state.17:42
faenilshould be quite easy to reproduce, I didn't do anything special, just created the chroot and asked UI to install gedit17:43
ChrisTownsendfaenil: And I don't know why the gui failed so miserably.  Sounds like qtmir rejected something in libertine which botched the whole thing.17:43
ChrisTownsendfaenil: But I've never seen libertine get rejected, so I'm at a loss.17:43
faenilnow I'm tapping Open on gedit in the legacy apps scope17:44
faenilnothing happens17:44
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Do have that special silo added that has the updated qtmir and ubuntu-app-lauch that works with libertine-scope?17:45
faenilI have silo5817:45
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Ok.  The maybe ~/.cache/upstart/application-legacy-gedit_blah.log might hold a clue.17:46
faenilgot to go, let's see tomorrow o/17:46
faenilcya people :)17:46
faeniland thanks for the support17:46
ChrisTownsendfaenil: Okay, good night17:46
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TJ-are there any reliable detailed tech specs for the (newish) Meizu Pro 5 ?18:22
dobeyi suppose whatever is published on Meizu's site?18:26
dobeyhttp://www.meizu.com/en/products/pro5/spec.html18:26
TJ-unfortunately its not specific. It appears that although the device claims LTE support, it in fact doesn't support LTE 800/900Mhz bands, which means it won't work as expected on some cell networks; e.g. O2 and Vodafone in the U.K.18:28
dobeywell, call meizu and ask for more specifics i guess? we just make software over here. they make the hardware :)18:30
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mterryLaney: hey you still working?19:46
* mterry forgets your hours19:46
mterryLaney: we'd like to land silo 41 soon if we can, which needs FFe bug 1557557 approval19:47
ubot5bug 1557557 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) "[FFe] geonames & indicator-session (silo 41)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155755719:47
mimecarhi19:59
mterrykenvandine: where did you end up with geonames in your silo?  did you get it to build?20:00
mterrykenvandine: we may try to release silo 41 today20:00
kenvandinei did20:02
kenvandinemterry, but if you are ready to release today, go for it20:02
kenvandinei'm waiting for the vpn silo to go through QA still, which we want to land first20:02
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=== mimecar is now known as mimecar-away
popeymariogrip: hey, how well is the 5.1 branch working on OPO? :)20:36
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mariogrippopey: it getting there, soon ready for release22:32
popey\o/22:32
popeyLooking forward to that22:32
mariogrip:)22:32

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