[00:00] <Align_Waivers> I'm getting this from terminal:
[00:00] <Align_Waivers> make[3]: Entering directory `/home/athan/Desktop/Gem-0.93.3/src/Gem'
[00:00] <Align_Waivers> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
[00:00] <Align_Waivers> test -z "/usr/local/include/Gem/Gem" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/local/include/Gem/Gem"
[00:00] <Align_Waivers> /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/usr/local/include/Gem’: Permission denied
[00:00] <Align_Waivers> make[3]: *** [install-libGem_la_includeHEADERS] Error 1
[00:00] <Align_Waivers> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/athan/Desktop/Gem-0.93.3/src/Gem'
[00:00] <Align_Waivers> make[2]: *** [install-am] Error 2
[00:00] <Align_Waivers> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/athan/Desktop/Gem-0.93.3/src/Gem'
[00:00] <Align_Waivers> make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
[00:00] <Align_Waivers> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/athan/Desktop/Gem-0.93.3/src'
[00:00] <Align_Waivers> make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
[00:00] <abhishek> but i have extracted that folder to tmp folder and it already exists
[00:00] <Trinity> Align_Waivers, pastebin.com
[00:01] <abhishek> terminal is not getting what i have to do now
[00:02] <Align_Waivers> Trinity: okay.. thanks
[00:02] <Trinity> Align_Waivers, in general don't paste code or logs in IRC it produces bloat
[00:03] <Trinity> it would be better for other users and people who may help you to read it from a pastebin or something similar
[00:03] <Align_Waivers> got it thanks for calling me out on that
[00:04] <abhishek> is there anyone can help me
[00:06] <RoadRunner> Want to make a permanent change to one of my Grub booting options: a change in the kernel line (linux /boot/vmlinuz...) from "root=UUID=xxxx" to "root=/dev/sdax". But /etc/default/grub file, meant for user customization, doesn't make any mention of UUID's and /boot/grub/grub.cfg which specificaly reffers to UUID's, says "not to edit this file".
[00:07] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: you want to do that cause you have 2 uuid's?
[00:07] <EriC^^> iirc?
[00:08] <RoadRunner> cause after running update-grub, got a sepparate menu entry for my clone partition and its info ("e") has its correct UUID in all the lines EXCEPT the kernel line
[00:10] <RoadRunner> the kernel line of the clone partition still shows the UUID of the original partition
[00:11] <RoadRunner> and since the sole purpose of the clone partition is to check new backup images, with every new image thrown on, the UUID will change - so might as well use a dev label
[00:12] <RoadRunner> changing the kernel line temporarily, works fine but I don't know how to change it permanently
[00:13] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: create custom entry in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[00:15] <RoadRunner> but doesn't 40_custom just create a new "title" in the menu?
[00:18] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: if not, I'd appreciate an example script, cause currently my 40_custom is empty, so I don't even have a template to work with
[00:19] <EriC^^> yeah it creates another entry
[00:19] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: I thought the easiest thing would be just to edit an existing entry
[00:19] <EriC^^> you can't, you can set grub to use /dev/sd instead of uuid but it'll be for all the entries
[00:21] <RoadRunner> so the new entry will not just have the title in the menu, but will have all the info that is present when you hit "e"?
[00:22] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: you mean the new entry in 40_custom?
[00:22] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: yes
[00:22] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: yeah it'll have it all
[00:23] <skitoxe> .
[00:23] <RoadRunner> ok, in that case where could I find a sample of such an entry?
[00:23] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: the kernel will be fixed though, unless you use /vmlinuz and /initrd.img instead of /boot/vmlinuz-3....
[00:23] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:24] <user_> Bashing-om: are you there?
[00:24] <squinty> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/CustomMenus
[00:25] <Bashing-om> user_: Yeah ,, back , If you have steam installed, it is not from our repo .
[00:26] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: re: "the kernel will be fixed" so even if I make the custom entry in 40_custom, it will stop working after a kernel update, correct?
[00:27] <EriC^^> it'll still load the old one, unless you delete the old kernel, then it'll break
[00:29] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: unfortunately, my script reading skills aren't good enough to read what's in grub.cfg and copy/paste/edit what I need into 40_custom... would you be willing to be of some assistance in this?
[00:29] <EriC^^> yeah pastebin grub.cfg
[00:33] <user_> Bashing-om: so how can I installed it from your repo?
[00:33] <Trinity> alright i managed to get manual fan speed working for my nvidia graphics card
[00:33] <user_> Bashing-om: you mean I didnt install it from the orignal repo source?
[00:33] <Trinity> but setting Coolbits to 8 or 12 is not showing the overclocking panel
[00:33] <Trinity> any ideas?
[00:34] <Trinity> my nvidia drivers is at 352.663
[00:34] <Trinity> 352.63*
[00:34] <Trinity> I'm running a GTX 660 for my graphics card as well
[00:34] <Trinity> So I should have overclocking support. I restarted lightdm after I changed xorg.conf. Should I be restarting instead?
[00:38] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: it's on /dev/sda7?
[00:39] <RoadRunner> the clone image is on /dev/sda7
[00:41] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: this is the menu entry http://paste.ubuntu.com/15388426/
[00:43] <EriC^^> fstab has 2 entries
[00:44] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: which fstab is that?
[00:44] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: for the main install?
[00:47] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: yes, the one on /dev/sda5
[00:47] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: comment out the line with uuid=f408
[00:48] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: why?
[00:49] <EriC^^> cause it doesn't make sense
[00:49] <RoadRunner> that was suggested by one of the mentors here...
[00:50] <EriC^^> why?
[00:51] <RoadRunner> shouldn't the file system table describe all the partitions present?
[00:52] <EriC^^> all the filesystems it might mount
[00:52] <EriC^^> it's not going to mount the other install you have at "/"
[00:52] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: ^^ only mounting file systems you want mounted when booting up !
[00:53] <EriC^^> you have it set to mount at "/" , with noauto , i've no idea why
[00:54] <RoadRunner> I believe the idea was to be able to mount the part at sda7 later (after boot) if need be for file comparison
[00:55] <EriC^^> that won't work
[00:55] <RoadRunner> please explain
[00:55] <EriC^^> cause you're mounting it at "/" over the install that's booted
[00:56] <EriC^^> you could set it to mount at /mnt if you want, (with noauto)
[00:58] <RoadRunner> that explanation makes sense except that I was able to mount the fs at sda7 (with a mount command) in /mnt and other places without issues and "/" didn't seem to be an obstacle...
[00:59] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: you can mount it at /mnt yeah sure
[00:59] <FireBeyond_> Where can I find a 16.04 server build?
[00:59] <FireBeyond_> (pre-release nightly that is)
[00:59] <tiberious> Hello.
[00:59] <EriC^^> that entry in fstab with noauto means if you run "mount /" it'll attempt to mount it at /
[00:59] <popey> FireBeyond_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[00:59] <nicomachus> FireBeyond_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[01:00] <popey> nicomachus: that's desktop, not server
[01:00] <FireBeyond_> ah, thanks popey
[01:00] <popey> np
[01:00] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: do you feel, this "/" entry in my fstab could be the reason why update-grub updated the boot menu improperly, resulting in a "bug" in the kernel line?
[01:01] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: sudo mount <something> <somewhere> is irrelevant of anything in fstab, mount <dir> looks at fstab for an entry
[01:01] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: yeah
[01:01] <EriC^^> it might be
[01:03] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: could you mount /dev/sda7 and do a cat /mnt/etc/fstab ?
[01:05] <RoadRunner> don't think I tried that
[01:05] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: so the logical course of action would be to change my fstab, re-run update-grub, check the sda7 entry and failing that create a new entry in 40_custom with the script you provided?
[01:06] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: take a look at /mnt/etc/fstab first
[01:06] <EriC^^> then yes, and modify the script
[01:07] <RoadRunner> if you want me to mount my sda7 now, what am I looking for?
[01:07] <EriC^^> check the uuid's in fstab
[01:07] <RoadRunner> ok
[01:08] <EriC^^> should be f408...
[01:08] <bobby_> how can I close a port on ubuntu?
[01:08] <NoCode> Cleaned out my case, removed my video card and now both of my screens are fight over which goes where. O.o
[01:09] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: ah, I understand where you are going now; yes, I did do that, and the two fstab files are different - I made them that way.  Would you like to see my other fstab file?
[01:09] <EriC^^> sure, why not
[01:09] <RoadRunner> sec
[01:11] <SchrodingersScat> !firewall | bobby_
[01:13] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: yeah, there are 2 entries there, and it's probably what's confusing grub
[01:13] <EriC^^> comment out the 883... one
[01:15] <EriC^^> or set it to /mnt
[01:16] <RoadRunner> both solutions being equally good or is the "/mnt" one opening more options?
[01:16] <EriC^^> well that way you could just type sudo mount /mnt and have it mounted and you can compare files
[01:17] <EriC^^> vs sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt , not much of a difference really
[01:18] <bobby_> thanks a lot
[01:19] <RoadRunner> EriC^^:  many, many thanks and I will hold on to your script just in case :)
[01:19] <EriC^^> no problem, ok :)
[01:21] <user1_> how can download kubuntu lts 16.x? gui version   there seems no link on site
[01:21] <SchrodingersScat> !16.04 | user1_
[01:22] <user1_> SchrodingersScat,  yes but if I want to download the beta?
[01:22] <SchrodingersScat> it's offtopic here.
[01:22] <user1_> no one is replying at the siad channel
[01:25] <SchrodingersScat> user1_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ is this it? idk because I stick to things released.
[01:26] <user1_> k
[01:26] <user1_> question: for stable releases. Are the ISOs updated or its the same ISO on kubuntu.com that was months ago?
[01:27] <SchrodingersScat> there's point releases for the lts, so 14.04.1 was a thing, 16.04.1 shall be a thing, etc.
[01:28] <Datz> Hi, after an upgrade both phpmyadmin and munin are giving me forbidden 403 when I try and access them. Any ideas?
[01:28] <Datz> seems to be something that changed/broke with apache2
[01:41] <Budd> Running Ubuntu 15.10, my /etc/resolv.conf points to 127.0.1.1 (dnsmasq, I assume). How can I discover which upstream DNS servers it's using?
[01:41] <parsecChar> is there a ubuntu package that's just a bunch of fonts? I need to download a massive set of fonts to generate samples of what 0-9a-zA-Z look like
[01:46] <TJ-> parsecChar: there are many meta packages that pull in lots of related fonts
[01:46] <TJ-> parsecChar: try "apt-cache search -n font" to get an idea
[01:47] <parsecChar> install all of them?
[01:48] <cfhowlett> install the fonts you want
[01:48] <TJ-> parsecChar: no... I was giving you a way to find packages. Look at those that mention being meta- packages
[01:48] <parsecChar> apt-cache search -n font | grep -i meta ?
[01:48] <parsecChar> cute
[01:48] <TJ-> parsecChar: e.g. "apt-cache search -n font | grep meta"
[01:52] <TJ-> has anyone installed Ubuntu on a RasPi 3 ?
[01:53] <cfhowlett> TJ-, avoid "has anyone ..." questions.  state YOUR details specifically
[01:53] <TJ-> cfhowlett: I did. I want to know if anyone has installed it!
[01:54] <cfhowlett> TJ-, OK the answer is "yes".  someone, somewhere has installed ubuntu on pi
[01:55] <TJ-> cfhowlett: indeed, but how about the "RasPii 3", that was my *specific* question, since it has different hardware requirements than the RasPi 2
[01:55] <devsys> Hi all, I have a 10.04 server install, the init process is constantly ussing 33% of the processor. Where is a good place to start troubleshooting this?
[01:55] <devsys> 14.04*
[01:55] <cfhowlett> devsys, ask #ubuntu-server
[01:56] <devsys> ah ok thanks
[02:02] <squinty> TJ-,  quick google shows some hits for ubuntu + raspberry pi 3.  http://www.zdnet.com/article/more-hand-on-with-the-raspberry-pi-3-bluetooth-openelec-ubuntu-mate-and-more/
[02:05] <TJ-> squinty: thanks for that; quite interesting
[02:08] <TJ-> squinty: I've written a program to create an RasPi 3 bootable image, with the latest 4.5 kernel including the updated hardware device-tree, and with u-boot to support network/USB boots. Interesting to see what others are managing.
[02:10] <squinty> TJ; hopefully one of these days I will get of my butt and start playing with those units.  ;-)
[02:13] <TJ-> squinty: Was wondering how much trouble I'm going to have once I start booting the RasPi3 from the images :) That article has clued me in that I need to ensure the radio drivers and BT/wifi packages are installed and configured.
[02:14] <hadrien> Hi there, I am getting sick of the constant spying on my Google (Android) phone and I was thinking about replacing it with ubuntu
[02:14] <cfhowlett> !touch | hadrien
[02:14] <hadrien> Do you know if it's better in terms of privacy ?
[02:15] <hadrien> OK thanks, I didn't know about this channel, bye !
[02:15] <xangua> hadrien: Richard Stallman would say no mobile spy device is better
[02:18] <zykotick9> xangua: actually RMS calls them "personal surveillance devices" ;)
[02:19] <numb3r> Hi everyone can I have snapshot of fdisk with windows and linux partitions?
[02:32] <blyat> angtov karaktiog
[02:58] <numb3r> can anyone share "sudo fdisk -l" output for a computer with dual boot, please
[02:59] <jnoob22> numb3r, http://dpaste.com/3QZHFXK
[03:00] <jnoob22> any idea how to enable application menus for Gnome 3? For instance, my Chromium browser does not show 'File' 'Edit' 'View', etc.
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> jnoob22: maybe the #ubuntu-gnome guys might know?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> numb3r: Mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15389291/ .
[03:03] <tnuc> I know it's not English channel, but can someone confirm whether this sentence: "I was wondering if you'd like to get half off your internet bill in exchange for sharing some of your wi-fi with me" sounds natural? The part "in exchange for sharing" seems odd to me... like is it proper English?
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> tnuc: find yourself another learning channel mate
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> !alis | tnuc
[03:04] <numb3r> Bashing-om, thank you for sharing but I don't see dual boot (Windows and Linux)
[03:05] <Bashing-om> numb3r: Nope, you did not specify Windows ./.. No Windows for me .
[03:05] <numb3r> jnoob22, Seems like you are running on usb device
[03:05] <numb3r> Bashing-om, thanks for sharing
[03:07] <Zeranoe> If my drive does not support ATA Secure Erase (my preferred wipe method), is there a way to 0 a drive from a live ubuntu session?
[03:08] <Bashing-om> Zeranoe: 'dd' can do that .
[03:10] <dax> Zeranoe: spinning hard disk drive, or solid-state drive?
[03:10] <Zeranoe> dax: spinning
[03:11] <dax> Zeranoe: replace /dev/sdX in the following with the actual drive's name: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1G
[03:11] <dax> it'll error out with "no space left on device" when done
[03:11] <dax> (note to people not reading context: that command will wipe hard disks, do not run it)
[03:12] <Zeranoe> dax: Nice, thanks
[03:13] <Zeranoe> dax: Did you randomly pick 1G for bs, or is that a preferred byte size?
[03:13] <Bashing-om> dax: :) Great to warn !
[03:13] <numb3r> Zeranoe, you need to unmount your drive first with 'umount /dev/sdX'
[03:15] <Zeranoe> umount /dev/sda1; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1G is the plan of action
[03:17] <Bashing-om> Zeranoe: Hour per Gig .. ' man dd ' has instuctions to get a status .
[03:18] <dax> Zeranoe: I messed around with different values a while ago and that one was quickest for me. your mileage may vary
[03:18] <dax> if you don't put any bs= it takes forever
[03:21] <Zeranoe> I'll let it run over night. Thanks for the help
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> Zeranoe: afterwards you can test with photorec if your data is really gone :p
[03:26] <Zeranoe> lotuspsychje: It better be if dd is actually zeroing
[03:26] <numb3r> Can anyone else share with me "sudo fdisk -l" with dual boot windows and Linux pliz
[03:27] <Zeranoe> This isn't that old of a HDD either, so I'm surprised it didn't support ATA secure erase
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> Zeranoe: yeah im sure it will do its work allright, just photorec hint, to doublecheck things
[03:37] <phil42> a man tried to rush the stage at a Donald Trump rally today.   The secret service said he was dangerous and disturbed but they had to protect him anyway.
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> phil42: please, not here
[03:38] <wolfspy> hello, is using the encryption option on setup ok on an ssd? will it use lots of writes and reads or something? also how much will it impact the speed?
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> phil42: you have been told earlier to use #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> wolfspy: i dont think it will influence on speed
[03:39] <wolfspy> uuh
[03:39] <wolfspy> why not?
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> wolfspy: once un-encrypted you will be able to use full ssd performance
[03:39] <wolfspy> im pretty sure it would on speed atleast
[03:40] <wolfspy> uh
[03:40] <wolfspy> it can't un encrypt the entire thing at once though
[03:40] <wolfspy> im pretty sure thats how it works
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> wolfspy: the question is, do you really need encryption?
[03:40] <wolfspy> this is on a laptop that i will be using outside of the house a lot
[03:40] <wolfspy> so probably
[03:41] <SchrodingersScat> then does it matter if you take a performance hit?
[03:41] <wolfspy> as long as it's minor
[03:41] <wolfspy> but i don't want to age my ssd faster
[03:41] <wolfspy> or whatever you call it
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> wolfspy: thats hardware related, how you use it also
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> wolfspy: depends on brand, and own usage
[03:42] <wolfspy> well i heard that encryption that uses compression writes to the drive a lit
[03:42] <wolfspy> lot*
[03:42] <wolfspy> idk if ubuntu's does that though
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> wolfspy: you coul ask this in ##hardware if you like
[03:42] <wolfspy> why would it have to do with hardware?
[03:42] <wolfspy> isn't software doing the encrypting
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> wolfspy: but ubuntu+ssd is a nice combo
[03:43] <wolfspy> i dont think i have a integrated encryption thing on my motehrboard
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> wolfspy: if you have the fastest ssd of the world, things will go faster even on encryption= hardware related
[03:44] <wolfspy> what
[03:44] <wolfspy> i don't though
[03:44] <wolfspy> i mean
[03:44] <wolfspy> will the encryption impact the speed significantly?
[03:44] <Datz> Hi, when I upgraded to the next 14.04 phpmyadmin and munin give me 403s. I'm not sure what changed in apache to break them, but if anyone has any insights on where to look first it would be a big help
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> wolfspy: again, depends wich ssd, whole system, ssd tweaks,etc
[03:45] <wolfspy> i know that
[03:45] <wolfspy> ok what about the writes
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> Datz: what you mean the next?
[03:45] <wolfspy> will it use more ssd reads and writes?
[03:45] <wolfspy> or is it fine?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> wolfspy: i think you better move to ##hardware mate
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> wolfspy: ubuntu runs fine on both encryption and regular install
[03:48] <Datz> lotuspsychje: did you mean to ding me there?
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> Datz: ding? explain your case a bit mate, what do you mean the next 14.04?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> Datz: did you add ppa's of any kind?
[03:49] <Datz> lotuspsychje: oops, I mean the next LTS, I left that part out
[03:49] <Datz> basically when I upgraded from 10.04 to 14.04
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> Datz: did you just upgrade from 10.04?
[03:50] <Datz> well, it was a few months back
[03:50] <Datz> 10.04 had already reached eol though
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> Datz: how long did you use 10.04 like that before upgrade?
[03:51] <Datz> probably since it was released
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> Datz: man you should not do that like that mate, so many new exploits out
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> Datz: i would clean install if i was you
[03:52] <Datz> yeah, well I was kind of surprised that had reached eol
[03:52]  * trr 
[03:52] <Datz> I really should, but I'd rather fix what's broken. I don't like the idea of a fresh install
[03:53] <Datz> I don't think the system has been compromised
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> Datz: how can you still trust your system right now, especially when running services like apache or php
[03:54] <Datz> so, I'm not trying to do a fresh install
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> Datz: dangerous statement to say, check here: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/lucid/
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> Datz: its your system...
[03:55] <Datz> IT was updated regularly, there was just a month or so where there was a lapse in support
[03:56] <Datz> anyway, guess I'm not here to discuss that
[03:57] <Datz> I'm not saying it's a bad idea, it'd just be a pita
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Datz: by the way, if you was on 10.04 you hade to upgrade to 12.04 first right
[03:58] <Datz> yeah, I think that's what I had to do
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> Datz: so..and your real issue is?
[04:00] <Datz> I'm getting 403s with a few web serives
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> Datz: did you add ppa's of any kind?
[04:00] <Datz> some issues with the upgrade apparently, the first thing that I spoke about
[04:01] <Datz> nope, not for what's broken at least
[04:01] <bray90820> Can someone tell me what's wrong with this syntax
[04:01] <bray90820> if grep -qs /dev/server/backup /proc/mounts: then echo "It's mounted." fi
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> Datz: pastebin the output please
[04:03] <Datz> lotuspsychje: which output?
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> Datz: you say you getting 403?
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> !mount | bray90820
[04:05] <bray90820> lotuspsychje: What I am trying to do is check if it's mounted
[04:06] <bray90820> Check if /dev/server/backup is mounted
[04:07] <Datz> lotuspsychje: this is a line from the apache error log http://pastebin.com/Zsp6gvYi
[04:07] <Unirgy> hi, on the last `apt-get upgrade`i'm getting this error: https://gist.github.com/unirgy/5d8cae4734e1a1304731 basically i'm stuck because i can't even remove the package. please help :)
[04:07] <Datz> doesn't say much, but I really don't know where else to look. I just get forbidden when I try and access phpmyadmin and another service .
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> Datz: wich phpmyadmin version are you on?
[04:08] <Datz> I should really fresh install everything, it's been way too long. But I'd like to fix things first. I don't have time to configure everything right now
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> bray90820: maybe man mountpoint can help you?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> Unirgy: did you add ppa's of any kind?
[04:11] <Unirgy> for squid3?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> Unirgy: any ppa, or manual package install
[04:11] <Unirgy> is it in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> !sources | Unirgy
[04:11] <Andy> hi
[04:12] <numb3r> Unirgy, try with sudo
[04:12] <Andy> can i get itunes for linux, if not, any other alternative that i can use to synch music to my iphone?
[04:12] <Datz> lotuspsychje: it's 4:4.0.10-1
[04:12] <Datz> lotuspsychje: I'm also having the same exact issue with munin, I think it's an apache config problem.
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> Datz: ok looks like the right one
[04:12] <numb3r> Unirgy, sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:12] <Unirgy> lotuspsychje: no ppas on this server
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> Datz: maybe the #httpd guys can sort this?
[04:13] <Unirgy> numb3r: this is in root user
[04:13] <Datz> lotuspsychje: they probably hate it when ubuntu guys come in there and ask questions :)
[04:13] <Datz> ubuntu changes everything up.. well I suppose most distros do
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Datz: untrue, they get tons of web questions
[04:14] <Datz> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks, well maybe I'll give them a try
[04:15] <numb3r> Unirgy, try this: apt-get --fix-missing install
[04:16] <Unirgy> numb3r: nope, asks to run `apt-get -f install`
[04:17] <Unirgy> oh this time: "squid3 : Depends: squid3-common (= 3.1.19-1ubuntu3.12.04.4) but 3.1.19-1ubuntu3.12.04.6 is installed"
[04:17] <Unirgy> looks like squid3-common didn't get upgraded
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> !info squid3-common precise
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> yeah should be .6 also
[04:18] <Unirgy> looks like packaging error
[04:18] <Unirgy> is it possible to force remove both squid3-common and squid3?
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> purge
[04:19] <Unirgy> lotuspsychje: doesn't work
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Unirgy: is your system up to date?
[04:20] <Unirgy> last `aptitude upgrade` was a week ago successfully. right now 34 packages waiting to be updated
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> ok
[04:21] <Unirgy> waiting for this error to be resolved
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> Unirgy: and you cant recall installing squid3 a manual way or so?
[04:21] <Unirgy> nope
[04:21] <Unirgy> don't even need it
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> Unirgy: what you get as error when sudo apt-get purge squid3 ?
[04:23] <Unirgy> in comment here: https://gist.github.com/unirgy/5d8cae4734e1a1304731
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Unirgy: how about: sudo dpkg -P squid3
[04:25] <Unirgy> added comment
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> dependecy issues are surely due to ppa
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> Unirgy: how about: sudo apt-get --force-yes remove squid3
[04:27] <DonkeyHotei_> help! i need to kill the lock screen process but nothing obvious shows in ps
[04:27] <numb3r> Unirgy, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:27] <numb3r> to see which packet is blocking
[04:27] <Unirgy> lotuspsychje: same thing, added to comments
[04:28] <Unirgy> numb3r: empty result
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> Unirgy: show us your sources.list please?
[04:31] <Unirgy> https://gist.github.com/unirgy/c689be70c6ad3bcd366e
[04:31] <DonkeyHotei_> anyone?
[04:31] <Unirgy> there are ppa lines but they are commented out for a long long time
[04:31] <Unirgy> i don't even remember touching them
[04:31] <newham> hi
[04:32] <newham> any one here？
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> Unirgy: you need to cleanout all those first mate
[04:32] <DonkeyHotei_> over 1600 people are here
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> !patience | DonkeyHotei_
[04:32] <Unirgy> lotuspsychje: how do i clean them? the lines are already commented out
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> newham: can we help you?
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> Unirgy: ppapurge or manually remove them
[04:33] <newham> oh ，god，so many gays
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | Unirgy
[04:33] <newham> nice to meet you!
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> newham: wrong channel
[04:34] <Unirgy> LOL `apt-get install ppa-purge` offered to remove squid and squid3 as solution to conflict, and it worked
[04:34] <numb3r> Unirgy, did you had another squid before this one? May be you didnot stop it before install
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Unirgy
[04:35] <ouroumov> DonkeyHotei_, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:35] <Unirgy> thank you all :)
[04:35] <Unirgy> so weird
[04:35] <DonkeyHotei_> ouroumov: trusty
[04:35] <ouroumov> DonkeyHotei_, Standard Ubuntu?
[04:36] <DonkeyHotei_> close enough to standard for the purposes of this issue
[04:36] <ouroumov> I had problems with xscreensaver back a while ago
[04:36] <skitoxe> DonkeyHotei_: sudo pkill -u <username>
[04:36] <ouroumov> do you have such a process running?
[04:36] <DonkeyHotei_> there is no xscreensaver in ps
[04:37] <ouroumov> DonkeyHotei_, that command from skitoxe will kill all your processes
[04:37] <skitoxe> im guessing browser hanged after html5 fullscreen ?
[04:37] <ouroumov> Not sure that's what you want
[04:37] <DonkeyHotei_> of course not
[04:37] <skitoxe> ouroumov: easiest way of killing all x related. just start it again
[04:38] <ouroumov> skitoxe, that's a violent way to logout though
[04:38] <DonkeyHotei_> skitoxe: no, object got placed on keyboard for a few hours
[04:38] <skitoxe> DonkeyHotei_: has it frozen? or are you trying to bypass it ?
[04:39] <newham> I just have one question:Does Ubuntu 16 use unity 8?
[04:39] <DonkeyHotei_> password field got so full that events are still queued
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> newham: #ubuntu+1 for xenial
[04:40] <davido> it will use 7 or 8, your decision
[04:41] <davido> i think 7 will be default, but can be switched easily to 8.
[04:42] <newham> oh thanks,I think 8 is more modern than 7
[04:43] <davido> the numbers... they do tend to go up as time goes by.
[04:43] <skitoxe> DonkeyHotei_: reboot?
[04:44] <DonkeyHotei_> i was REALLY hoping not to reboot
[04:45] <davido> yeah, fun to see uptime grow. :)
[04:46] <skitoxe> DonkeyHotei_: then do what i said from the begining and just start x again
[04:46] <DonkeyHotei_> that's almost the same thing
[04:48] <skitoxe> DonkeyHotei_: no its far from it
[04:49] <skitoxe> check ps aux
[04:49] <skitoxe> root runs the majority of your processes
[04:49] <skitoxe> its the same as logging out to tty and back in
[04:49] <DonkeyHotei_> in terms of having what i had up on the screen still up, it is
[04:53] <Fii> hi, should I care about this log? https://paste.ubuntu.com/15389978/
[04:54] <Fii> UFW seems to be blocking everything (there's a couple hundred more entries from the same ip), but I don't have enough experience to know if I should be worried or not
[04:56] <skitoxe> Fii: someone is trying to get in your ssh server
[04:56] <Fii> skitoxe: by checking every single port?
[04:56] <ouroumov> No
[04:57] <skitoxe> no the same port
[04:57] <ouroumov> Only port 22 repeatedly
[04:57] <skitoxe> 22
[04:57] <ouroumov> Kind of dumb
[04:58] <davido> hopefully you're set up for keys not passwords
[04:58] <Fii> I moved my ssh port from 22 the other day (I know it doesn't really do anything, I just felt like it), so now fail2ban doesn't do anything on port 22 I guess. Should I just ignore him?
[04:59] <davido> block that ip at your router.
[04:59] <Fii> it's on a remote server
[04:59] <skitoxe> Fii: are you running keys and not passwords on your ssh server?
[04:59] <Fii> Yeah, 2048
[04:59] <Fii> root disabled, password auth off
[05:00] <davido> fine then. only issue is the traffic he's generating, and filling your logs
[05:00] <Fii> Can I do something with UFW to block him 'even more' ?
[05:00] <skitoxe> What i do is i run a VPN to my server and keep all other ports shut so ssh is only available inside lan. that's pretty neat
[05:00] <davido> i'd probably still drop him at the router just to move him a little further away from home
[05:01] <Fii> It's a remote dedi, I don't have access to the router
[05:01] <davido> oh, ok.
[05:01] <davido> who provides your dedi?
[05:01] <Fii> OVH
[05:02] <ouroumov> If it's not a kimsufi maybe you can contact them and tell them about it
[05:02] <davido> cool
[05:02] <ouroumov> I've no experience with support levels for their regular services
[05:02] <Fii> It's a kimsufi lol. Mostly a hobby box, didn't wanna pay out the ass for it.
[05:03] <Fii> by the time they'd respond to the ticket I'm sure the guy will have given up
[05:03] <ouroumov> yeah
[05:03] <Fii> oh well, I guess I'll just let him waste bandwidth. Thanks
[05:04] <davido> their tos department may still be interested.
[05:04] <davido> you never know.
[05:13] <Keiga> Trying to compile R from source and get this error: "m -f liblzma.a /bin/bash: m: command not found", wondering if anyone knows what "m" is so I can install it
[05:14]  * trr 
[05:16] <gorroth> hi there!
[05:16] <gorroth> i was wondering, after installing the nvidia drivers, is there a way to make it so the boot splash and the terminal windows display in the higher resolutions that the open source drivers give?
[05:17] <gorroth> because outside of X, the resolution is really low
[05:17] <gorroth> oh, n/m
[05:17] <gorroth> i just found it by googling.  something about grub and vbeinfo
[05:24] <DonkeyHotei_> gorroth: don't do it. the nvidia binary drivers don't like it when another driver for the same hardware is running at the same time
[05:25] <gorroth> DonkeyHotei_: not sure what that has to do with what i said
[05:27] <DonkeyHotei_> gorroth: decent resolution in a console on nvidia requires a framebuffer driver
[05:29] <gorroth> made it work
[05:29] <gorroth> all good now
[05:38] <bguy123> im on the computer getin brain from two white chicks
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> bguy123: please not here, this is an ubuntu support channel
[05:42] <DonkeyHotei_> ouroumov, skitoxe: epilogue. googling showed the solution is normally "unity --replace" but that yielded the following
[05:42] <DonkeyHotei_> XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0"
[05:42] <DonkeyHotei_>       after 175 requests (175 known processed) with 53 events remaining.
[05:43] <DonkeyHotei_> oh well
[05:44] <ouroumov> :x
[05:47] <jhc76> has anyone successfully deploy a home email server behind timewarner cable?
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> jhc76: best to ask specific question mate, wich email server on wich ubuntu version?
[05:51] <jhc76> @lotuspsychje: I got courier and postfix. gmail doesn't like my emails
[05:51] <jhc76> on 14.04
[05:51] <jhc76> ubuntu
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !postfix | jhc76 can this help?
[05:53] <jhc76> lotuspsychje: thank you. unfortunately, that's the tut I used...
[05:53] <jhc76> good thing is I'm receiving it tho. :D
[05:53] <jhc76> but can't send out anything
[05:54] <jhc76> "I only receive but can't give" -myemailserver
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> jhc76: well you can ask this specific issue
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> jhc76: your on desktop or server
[05:55] <jhc76> server
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> jhc76: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might also point you to the right direction
[05:56] <jhc76> ok. I'll try my luck there. thanks lotuspsychje!
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> jhc76: there is also a #postfix channel if you like
[05:56] <jhc76> kk thx!!!
[05:59] <eliasf> hi, how do i change the settings for what my computer does when i plug in my phone?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> eliasf: what do you want it to do?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> baizon: morning
[06:00] <eliasf> i was careless and checked off the "open in photowell" option
[06:01] <eliasf> so now it does that
[06:01] <eliasf> every god damn time
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> eliasf: your on unity?
[06:01] <eliasf> i dont know
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> eliasf: lsb_release -a please
[06:02] <eliasf> No LSB modules are available.
[06:02] <eliasf> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[06:02] <eliasf> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[06:02] <eliasf> Release:	14.04
[06:02] <eliasf> Codename:	trusty
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> eliasf: ok check the details icon, you should be able to choose wich applications
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> eliasf: then choose shotwell for pictures
[06:04] <eliasf> details icon?
[06:04] <eliasf> settings?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> eliasf: its a gear icon
[06:05] <eliasf> yes
[06:06] <eliasf> i cant find any applications, just settings for the computer in general
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> eliasf: think your in the wrong icon, your in general settings gear icon?
[06:06] <eliasf> system settings
[06:06] <eliasf> a gear with a wrench infront of it
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> eliasf: its another one, clear gear icon
[06:07] <eliasf> now i have to find that haha
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> eliasf: without the wrench, sorry im on another language
[06:07] <eliasf> do you mean the one in the top right corner?
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> eliasf: ah yes the about this computer lets you in there aswell
[06:09] <eliasf> AH
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> eliasf: then the 3rd removable media choose shotwell for pictures
[06:09] <eliasf> THANKS
[06:09] <eliasf> man
[06:09] <eliasf> thanks a lot
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !yay | eliasf
[06:09] <Mr_Cyclops> Hello, is this the right place for a question regarding Ubuntu MATE 15.10 ?
[06:10] <eliasf>  started from the bottom
[06:10] <eliasf> now were here
[06:10] <Mr_Cyclops> I wanted to know if there is a way for Google Drive Integration on Ubuntu Mate 15.10 ?
[06:13] <newham> use the google chrome
[06:13] <Mr_Cyclops> newham, was that solution for me?
[06:13] <newham> and install the app from its website
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> !info grive | Mr_Cyclops or this
[06:14] <Mr_Cyclops> ubottu, Thanks much! I will give it a try ....
[06:15] <Mr_Cyclops> heh .. nice
[06:17] <jhc76>  I can't post comments on #postfix. it says I have to register??? http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering that page is almost blank with no info
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> !register | jhc76
[06:18] <jhc76> oh cool. thanks m8!
[06:20] <jhc76> weird. it says I'm already registered but wouldn't let me chat in that channel. I reentered that channel and now I can talk.  but it works
[06:21] <jhc76> thanks sir
[06:31] <swenzel> anyone remember me having strange soundproblems a few weeks ago? its back... sound stopped working over night again -.-
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: ubuntu version? did it happen after update?
[06:32] <swenzel> I don't remember doing an update yesterday
[06:32] <swenzel> I did one this morning, hoping it would fix it though
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: lsb_release -a please?
[06:34] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/na6zApCN
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> !sound | swenzel ok doublecheck this please
[06:44] <WLBI> Moin
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> !de | WLBI
[06:45] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, doesn't help... I guess I'll try to find the "fix" that worked for me last time... It involved changing some startup script file which then loads a module (with a wrong parameter?) which makes my computer unable to boot, then I'll start ubuntu from a startup disk (where sound works fine btw) and change the file back to what it was and magically sound comes back... at least last time it did
[06:46] <WLBI> ubottu: sorry, I better whould say good morning ;-)
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: did you try sound on an LTS version?
[06:47] <swenzel> thought 15.10 is LTS?
[06:47] <swenzel> but iirc my soundcard isn't listed as supported... so I guess I'll have to live with that
[06:48] <WLBI> swenzel: 15.10 is STS :-)
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !lts | swenzel
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: you can file a bug against also if you like
[06:49] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, problem ist that it's not exactly reproducable
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: maybe something usefull in your logs?
[06:50] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, dunno what to look for
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: you can pastebin your syslog if you like, ill have a look
[06:55] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, too large for pastebin :D https://www.dropbox.com/s/sn5q8i9g8mnc6ve/syslog.txt?dl=0
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: this looks relevant: Mar 15 07:25:02 user-desktop-ubuntu pulseaudio[2139]: [alsa-sink-USB Audio] alsa-sink.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_usb_audio'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers.
[06:57] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, my usb sound works perfectly
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: ah its your internal sound then?
[06:57] <swenzel> yes
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: so you using 2 soundcards on 1 pc togheter?
[06:59] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, my headset has an integrated usb soundcard, I use the mainboard soundcard for my regular speakers
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: ok
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: not related, but did you firmware upgrade your evo 840 ssd?
[07:02] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, nope... should I ? :D
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: yes, the evo 840 has a performance bug there's a fix on samsung website, recommended to apply then reinstall ubuntu
[07:03] <swenzel> reinstall oO
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: ssd firmware upgrade can damage data
[07:03] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, there is also a windows boot on it
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: without the firmware, your ssd will not work optimal
[07:04] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, will it break sooner?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: break no, but your read/write perfomance isnt at best right now
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: check samsungs site for more details with your specific modelnumber
[07:06] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, for the moment I can live with that... thanks for the hint, I'll consider reinstalling my OSes later!
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: [pulseaudio] alsa-mixer.c: Volume element Speaker has 8 channels. That's too much! I can't handle that!
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: still browsing your logs :p
[07:07] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, guess that'll be the HDMI output of my graphics card
[07:08] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, thank you for having a look :)
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: [pulseaudio] bluez5-util.c: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org.bluez': timed out
[07:09] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, saw that too... hmm I'll ask google about it :D
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: this is what i would do, make a new bug against 15.10 pulseaudio add your logs and explain whats happening
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: then firmware upgrade your ssd and reinstall ubuntu fresh, again 15.10 or an LTS, your choice
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: you might also wanna try if you have this bug, without your usb sound
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: you know howto bug?
[07:14] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, I think I do... but this issue is hard to grasp so except for the logs and "my sound is working well and out of a sudden it stops" I don't know what to say... that's hardly enough for a dev to fix it :/
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: its ok to describe basicly what happens, even if you dont know the technical part
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: they might also ask you some steps to try
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: you can add syslog, dmesg, maybe a list of lsusb aswell so they can see there are more sound devices
[07:20] <maum> hello
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> maum: welcome, what can we do for you?
[07:20] <maum> lotuspsychje: I see the error : Destination Host Unreachable from ping command
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> maum: your connected to internet on ubuntu?
[07:22] <maum> yes
[07:22] <maum> ping www.yahoo.com works well
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> maum: so your target host is unreachable :p
[07:23] <maum> yes
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> maum: maybe the ##networking guys can explain this better
[07:23] <maum> I see.
[07:28] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, thanks for your time, I'll go for my ugly fix now and try to file a bug later
[07:29] <PSUser2> hi
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: ok good luck mate
[07:29] <PSUser2> i've followed this tutorial, up to step 4: http://funwithlinux.net/2014/04/ubuntu-14-04-web-server-tutorial/ but php doesn't want to work. when i load the page, it remains blank
[07:29] <PSUser2> any ideas?
[07:30] <PSUser2> apache sees index.php but does not execute php code, so i see a blank page
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> PSUser2: your on ubuntu server? up to date to latest?
[07:31] <PSUser2> ubuntu desktop
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> PSUser2: wich version please
[07:32] <swenzel> looking at ubott u's response when you mention it I wonder if it will go into infinite recursion when you make it mention itself...
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: what you mean mate
[07:33] <PSUser2> wait a bit
[07:33] <PSUser2> i'm a noob in finding out
[07:33] <PSUser2> the version
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> PSUser2: lsb_release -a
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> PSUser2: dont paste the whole output ok :p
[07:33] <PSUser2> ok
[07:33] <PSUser2> 14.04
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> PSUser2: 14.04.4 ?
[07:33] <PSUser2> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> ok
[07:33] <swenzel> hello ubottu
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | swenzel
[07:34] <swenzel> ubottu, hello
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | PSUser2 maybe this can help?
[07:34] <PSUser2> what to do with lamp?
[07:35] <PSUser2> i think that php code is disabled in apache config
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> PSUser2: well thats the official guide
[07:35] <swenzel> hmpf I thought it would just keep saying, sorry I'm just a bot
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: only when you adress him directly, but no need for doing that here
[07:38] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, I don't want to test that anywhere... I'm afraid to break it although I think the developers should have thought about it
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: the reaction is normal behaviour to warn the user its not a real human
[07:39] <swenzel> lotuspsychje, what if the user that mentions ubottu is ubottu itself? I mean by using | ubottu
[07:40] <PSUser2> i'm wasting so much time, all this troubleshooting eats up my life
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: the bot gets controlled by the ubuntu ops, and highlighting the bot will forward messages to their channel
[07:41] <PSUser2> half of my life is troubleshooting
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> swenzel: but lets focus on real support now mate
[07:41] <PSUser2> why so many versions, why so many params, etc.... all i needed was a simple working server....
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !server | PSUser2,
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> PSUser2: there is #httpd also if you like
[07:44] <tomaz__> hi
[07:45] <PSUser2> lotuspsychje, i cannot write to httpd
[07:45] <PSUser2> it doesn't allow me
[07:45] <PSUser2> why?
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> !register | PSUser2
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> PSUser2: as cfhowlett suggested you could also try #ubuntu-server and ask if its recommended to use apache on desktop?
[07:47] <tomaz__> can someone help me with ssh key... I have my server on Azure. At one point i decided to upgrade to next pricing plan and it looks that server regenerated its keys? I got this WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!,... The fingerprint for the ECDSA key sent by the remote host is <and then some fingerprint> and that i should remove one of the lines in known_hosts
[07:47] <PSUser2> lotuspsychje it's a simple personal project
[07:47] <PSUser2> i don't need the best of the best
[07:47] <tomaz__> can this happen when rebooted? for what ever reason that is not MITM attack?
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> PSUser2: ok but just to make sure you got all right packages and stuff
[07:48] <PSUser2> i wrote there already, and nobody answers
[07:48] <tomaz__> i read on net, that there were cases like this in the past on Azure...
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> tomaz__: maybe the #openssh guys can give you a hand?
[07:48] <tomaz__> u... great idea, thanks.
[07:48] <tomaz__> :)
[07:59] <maartenpi> I've got an issue, I'm not sure yet how to solve. So there is a server and a client. The server can not reach the client, because it's behind a firewall. The other way around it's possible. I want the server to listen to incoming websocket requests, which will be forwarded to the client. How would I do this? I've been messing around with ssh-tunnel and netcat. Any ideas?
[07:59] <maartenpi> *On the client that request needs to be again locally forwarded to a listening websocket service
[08:00] <maartenpi> I set up a ssh tunnel from the client to the server. Then I set up a netcat to forward the incoming request to the local server, but that port is already in use, so it won't work
[08:03] <snowzilla> hello
[08:03] <maartenpi> hi
[08:08] <livcd> I have noticed that some strings in the terminal have too dark color
[08:08] <livcd> how can i determine what to change to make them more readable ?
[08:14] <sdfg> livecd: you can change them in your ~/.bashrc settings.
[08:15] <sdfg> check out http://linux-sxs.org/housekeeping/lscolors.html
[08:16] <Kartagis> I've just upgraded and I didn't realise whether bash was upgraded, but now I see strings appended to path name, e.g. tolga@tolga ~/SOAPpy (develop=). any ideas?
[08:16] <Kartagis> develop is in green, if it matters
[08:16] <luren_> hhh
[08:17] <cmvosfutnis> Hello. How are the ubuntu iso images created when doing a release? Is it there an official link with the full process or a build script of the sort?
[08:19] <sdfg> Kartagis: what was it showing before?
[08:19] <Kartagis> sdfg: minus the string (just the path)
[08:20] <llutz> Kartagis: echo $PS1
[08:20] <baizon> cmvosfutnis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[08:20] <Kartagis> llutz: strangely enough, $PS1 varies by directory
[08:21] <PSUser2> for authentication when i start the pchat client, do i need to specify the password somewhere?
[08:25] <cmvosfutnis> baizon, maybe that page requires a bit of updating? Afair it doesn't work for recent versions of Ubuntu
[08:26] <z999> my wifi settings are not working. it is like it is not recognizing i have wifi
[08:29] <cmvosfutnis> gotta go, see you again.
[08:30] <floka> do you know what kind of wifi card you have?
[08:30] <hateball> z999: Is this a new install? What version of Ubuntu? What wifi chipset?
[08:30] <z999> new install
[08:30] <z999> the latest
[08:30] <z999> well i installed it last week
[08:30] <z999> wifi is xfinity/comcast
[08:31] <z999> it was working until yesterday
[08:31] <z999> enable wifi is greyed out
[08:32] <oracle> hi
[08:32] <oracle> is anyone here?
[08:33] <oracle> i have some problems!
[08:34] <Kartagis> llutz: \u@\h \w (\[\e[32m\]develop\[\e[0m\]=) \$
[08:35] <Kartagis> llutz: in another directory, develop becomes master
[08:35] <z999> hello
[08:35] <z999> nevermind i figured it out
[08:35] <z999> thanks anyways
[08:44] <yacc_> Kartagis, there are a number of ways to change the prompts on the fly: PROMPT_COMMAND, trap DEBUG comes to mind.
[08:48] <Ra_D> hi
[08:49] <Kartagis> yacc_: I can't imagine what did that
[08:49] <floka> how to add a directory to my path so I dont need to go into that directory every time I want to execute a file in it
[08:50] <yacc_> Kartagis, what's the value of the PROMPT_COMMAND variable? And what's the output of trap without arguments?
[08:50] <yacc_> Kartagis, #bash might be a better place to understand what's happening on your box.
[08:50] <Ben64> floka: put it in ~/bin/
[08:51] <floka> I dont have bin directory in my home directory, what are you suggesting?
[08:51] <Ben64> make it, put things you want to run in there
[08:51] <Kartagis> yacc_: PROMPT_COMMAND: __git_ps1 "\u@\h \w" "$(__drush_ps1 "[%s]") \\\$ "
[08:51] <Kartagis> probably it's the drush I installed yesterday
[08:51] <Kartagis> I didn't know it did that
[08:53] <floka> any other way?
[08:55] <Ben64> floka: yep, you could add it to your $PATH, but what are you trying to run?
[08:55] <floka> this is not your bussines what I run,man
[08:55] <floka> xD
[08:56] <Ben64> ok, then good luck
[08:56] <floka> you policeman?
[08:56] <floka> or jiosityust too annoying of cur
[08:56] <floka> curiosity
[08:56] <Ben64> the more information we have, the better answer we can give you
[08:57] <floka> what are you running Ben64
[08:57] <floka> gotta tell
[08:57] <Ben64> not relevant at all
[08:57] <floka> it is
[08:58] <floka> if you dont tell you will get into big trouble
[08:58] <mcphail> floka: It would be appreciated if you could stick to the support questions and avoid the hostility towards volunteers
[08:58] <floka> I am censor,here boy
[08:58] <floka> he is a hostile
[08:58] <Ben64> sure, trying to help is hostile now
[08:58] <floka> Why does he need even to known what I want to run
[08:58] <floka> this is total inrelevent and RUDE~
[08:58] <Ben64> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj2ssfXqcLLAhUE22MKHVI_C9QQFggcMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fworkaround.org%2Fgetting-help-on-irc%2F&usg=AFQjCNG75WlyHarLqVznb6XLvnir5ieLag&sig2=o1ldP00QSIYrYMGCHqp3EA&bvm=bv.116954456,d.cGc
[08:59] <Ben64> bah. https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc/
[08:59] <Ben64> read that, come back when you have a better attitude
[09:06] <jatin30> could not create '/usr/local/lib/scons-2.4.1'
[09:07] <jatin30> can anybody help
[09:08] <jatin30> hello there
[09:09] <jatin30> I can not create '/usr/local/lib/scons-2.4.1' can anybody please help
[09:09] <hateball> jatin30: What are you trying to do?
[09:14] <yacc_> Kartagis, Now "type __git_ps1" will tell you where the command comes from.
[09:15] <yacc_> Kartagis, but the value means that the command __git_ps 1 is run before every prompt display.
[09:17] <daedric> Hi folks, I've upgraded to 16.04 to have a better support of my hardware (Dell xps 15" 2016), I've noticed some warning in the dmesg: http://pastebin.com/hRNGFKnN . Whats the procedure to follow to report such problems ? (I've also some problems with i3 but it is probably a bug in i3 itself)
[09:19] <minimec> daedric: There is some documentation about reporting bugs here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[09:20] <minimec> daedric: Also... Your question is related to a future ubuntu release. Try #ubuntu+1. Maybe your problem is already known...
[09:20] <daedric> thanks for the +1 joining now
[09:26] <juan_> Hello
[09:26] <r_rios> Hello, all. I have a Logitech mk240 keyboard/mouse combo. I looked for instructions on how to make them work on Ubuntu, but the best thing (Solaar) is not detecting the pair.
[09:27] <juan_> Please, help in spanish
[09:27] <Ben64> !es | juan_
[09:27] <noawa> hi
[09:27] <juan_> thank you
[09:27] <r_rios> Does someone have the same combo? Is there anything else I can do?
[09:28] <minimec> juan_: And wher is the problem? These kind of devices should run out of the box...
[09:28] <minimec> r_rios: And wher is the problem? These kind of devices should run out of the box...
[09:28] <minimec> juan_: Sorry... wrong nick...
[09:29] <noawa> Hi
[09:29] <noawa> What's up guys
[09:29] <Ben64> r_rios: i think solaar is for unifying receivers
[09:29] <r_rios> Ben64: Yes. This combo has one of those
[09:30] <r_rios> minimec: The keyboard is not working, only the mouse
[09:30] <Ben64> r_rios: according to google it doesn't but ok. try pairing it on a windows computer then
[09:31] <minimec> r_rios: Yeah. There is a forum thread on ubuntuforums.org from 2011, describing that problem. I am reading through it.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1776115
[09:32] <r_rios> Ben64: https://secure.logitech.com/en-my/product/wireless-combo-mk240
[09:32] <r_rios> There's one keyboard, one mouse and one receiver
[09:32] <Ben64> mentions nothing about unifying receiver
[09:33] <r_rios> It has one USB receiver for two devices, so it should be unifying, shouldn't it?
[09:35] <Ben64> no
[09:35] <r_rios> Also, from lsusb: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c534 Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
[09:35] <r_rios> It is an unifying rerceiver
[09:36] <Ben64> ok well you still need to pair the keyboard
[09:37] <hansai> hello
[09:37] <r_rios> Yeah, but solaar isn't pairing my keyboard for some reason
[09:37] <r_rios> It doesn't find it
[09:38] <r_rios> solaar-cli: error: Logitech receiver not found
[09:40] <mcphail> r_rios: from bitter experience, there is no manufacturer support for modern logitech mouse/keyboard combos in Linux, poor kernel support and obsolete userland support. The hardware is undocumented (and flaky on all operating systems). In the end, I had to throw my mouse/keyboard away and but something else. Hope you have better luck
[09:40] <cfhowlett> not sure I agree with all that mcphail
[09:40] <cfhowlett> my logitech combo for Dell keyboard and mouse works just fine via the external BT usb
[09:41] <r_rios> https://pwr.github.io/Solaar/devices.html
[09:41] <mcphail> r_rios: when it works, it is fine. But there is no way to drill down and debug when it doesn't. I recompiled kernel modules with logging and never got any hint why my keyboard would come and go
[09:41] <Ben64> i have a unifying logitech mouse and it works perfectly with solaar
[09:41] <mcphail> r_rios: I have an older logitech combo which works perfectly. that's why I bought another. Nothing but a headache
[09:42] <minimec> r_rios: Are you sure that the keyboard batteries are ok? MAybe switch the Mouse/Keyboard batteries once, to check that...
[09:42] <r_rios> "At this moment, all Unifying Receiver are supported (devices with USB ID 046d:c52b or 046d:c532) [...] If your device is not listed here at all, it is very unlikely Solaar would be able to support it."
[09:42] <r_rios> Mine is 046d:c534 :(
[09:43] <mcphail> yes - the userland tools are obsolete
[09:44] <r_rios> mcphail: This is a brand new keyboard/mouse pair. It seems I'm screwed, then
[09:44] <r_rios> minimec: Dead sure, these are new batteries
[09:44] <Ben64> or pair it on windows
[09:44] <mcphail> r_rios: try it on Windows. There are harware problems with the keyboards. If it doesn't work, you will, at least, get a refund
[09:44] <r_rios> I'll try it, then
[09:54] <ssarah> hei
[09:54] <ssarah> should i trust ubuntu repositories in foreign countries?
[09:54] <ssarah> like china for example
[09:54] <cfhowlett> ssarah, I did.
[09:55] <ssarah> cfhowlett, ty for your input, but i really want to know if there's some global checkum mechanism that checks if repository code has been tampered with or something similar
[09:55] <mcphail> ssarah: if the repo packages are signed by the default keys, they can be trusted as authentic Ubuntu packages. Beware, though, that it is trivial for any untrusted package to add repo keys itself
[09:55] <ssarah> i see...
[09:56] <ssarah> well, i havent really added any weird packages manually, so  iguess its cool
[09:56] <ssarah> thank you mcphail
[09:56] <mcphail> ssarah: np
[09:57] <cfhowlett> above being said, global or local, assume that the brits, nsa or china can muck with the repos if they wish and probably go undetected.  of course, since way too many windows xp machines are still in use in China, not sure what the point would be.
[09:59] <trudko> Hi everyone I've noticed that when I connect on Ubuntu 14.04 to VPN using openconnect my internet connection rapidly slows down(I have intel 7265) does anybody have anyidea what could be the problem?
[09:59] <cfhowlett> trudko, vpn from where to where?
[09:59] <DevAntoine> hi
[09:59] <trudko> cfhowlett:  Slovakia to Austrai
[09:59] <trudko> Austria
[09:59] <jikai_> Are there anyone?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> jikai_, ask your ubuntu question
[10:00] <cfhowlett> trudko, vpn is almost always slower than non-vpn connection
[10:00] <DevAntoine> I'm using xubuntu and I've got an issue with the time. I'm synchronized with ntp but my time is not set to winter time. I live in Paris, it's 11h01 but the time being displayed is 12h01
[10:00] <DevAntoine> wtf?
[10:00] <jikai_> I firstly use IRC, I just want to known does anyone can feedback me
[10:00] <cfhowlett> !wtf | DevAntoine
[10:00] <DevAntoine> I've got no option to set the dst
[10:01] <cfhowlett> jikai_, chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:01] <trudko> cfhowlett: yeah but it affects my normal connection too maybe my understanding is wrong. If I connect to internet using wifi and then connect to vpn is all of my internet going through VPN?
[10:01] <ank43m> tudko: because when you vpn to another host you are using that hosts bandwith for your internet connection
[10:01] <cfhowlett> trudko, yes
[10:01] <trudko> ou hmm is there some workaround?
[10:02] <cfhowlett> trudko, don't VPN?
[10:02] <cfhowlett> trudko, or live with the slow down.  price to be paid for using VPN
[10:02] <ank43m> use your standart gateway for your internet connection
[10:02] <trudko> can't do that. But I only need some requests to use VPN
[10:03] <cfhowlett> trudko, there you go then.  VPN only as needed.
[10:03] <trudko> so can I setup that lets say only requests to domain www.foo.foo should use vpn?
[10:04] <ank43m> you can route your traffic
[10:04] <ank43m> not dns based but network based
[10:05] <trudko> ok can you point me to some link, not sure what to look for I am using openconnect and gnome manager so is that the place to change the settings?
[10:12] <ank43m> trudko: have a look at default gateway and routing table
[10:13] <juan_> hello
[10:13] <juan_> help in spanish
[10:14] <rory> !spanish
[10:14] <cfhowlett> !es | juan_
[10:14] <trudko> I mean my speed goes from 10MBIT to 0.5mbit +-
[10:15] <trudko> is there something ubuntu related I might look into? maybe check my dirver version?
[10:17] <vasskk> helloooooooo
[10:18] <vasskk> I need help
[10:18] <cfhowlett> !help | vasskk
[10:18] <vasskk> How can I run Connectify on Ubuntu 15?
[10:19] <vasskk> I tryed to do Wifi Hotspot through settings but my phone couldn't find hotspot.
[10:19] <b100s> hi2all
[10:19] <b100s> how can i autostart app in ubuntu on desktop N ?
[10:19] <b100s> i want to autostart few apps when i log in but on different desktops
[10:19] <ren0v0> hi, how do i go about forcing change of environ variable set in /etc/environment ? without logging out, from command line
[10:20] <llutz> ren0v0: ". /etc/environment"
[10:20] <ank43m> if your speed returns to normal when vpn is disconnected then there is nothing ubuntu related
[10:21] <ren0v0> llutz, that doesn't do anything
[10:21] <llutz> ren0v0: check your env
[10:21] <ren0v0> llutz, how do you mean ?
[10:21] <llutz> ren0v0: echo $VAR_TO_BE_CHANGED
[10:22] <ren0v0> llutz, if i echo to /etc/environ, run that command you gave, and printenv it doesn't show
[10:25] <r_rios> So, I just came from Windows 10 and it seems it's a problem with the device
[10:26] <mcphail> r_rios: yep. I'd never buy from them again
[10:26] <r_rios> Same problem: the mouse is detected, the keyboard is not. God damn it
[10:26] <r_rios> mcphail: I sure as hell will not
[10:27] <r_rios> What frustrates me is that, even if I get a refund, I already paid the import taxes
[10:28] <r_rios> Anyway, thanks for your help, folks
[10:30] <riccardosalerno> %C8[%O$1%C8]%O$t$2%O
[10:30] <xsil> Sargun:
[10:32] <Guest94642> when i use software updator my system dont do any thing after applying changes
[10:33] <xsil> register
[10:33] <xsil>        /msg NickServ help register
[10:34] <Guest94642> what should i do?
[10:34] <Ben64> Guest94642: can you explain what you mean?
[10:36] <Guest94642> Ben64, i see installing updates and in under that applying changes and i see a terminal in under that is freexed on Ge:1 changelog for linux-image-generic
[10:36] <Guest94642> ^freezed
[10:36] <rosco> I'm a redhat guy installing ubuntu. I want to install 14.04 with lvm, is there a way do do it with the desktop iso or should I use the server iso ?
[10:37] <Ben64> Guest94642: i'm still not following what you're trying to say. can you pastebin the error or message, along with what command you're running
[10:37] <Ben64> rosco: if you want desktop, use desktop
[10:37] <ank43m> rosco, 14.04 permits installing with lvm
[10:37] <Guest94642> what should i do?
[10:37] <ank43m> rosco, it asks for it when installing
[10:38] <gvo> rosco check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM
[10:38] <Ben64> Guest94642: paste the error here and provide the url it gives. http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:39] <gvo> rosco never mind, that's kind of old.
[10:40] <Guest94642> Ben64, http://picpaste.com/sssss-ixcLleIU.png
[10:40] <Guest94642> Ben64, did you get it?
[10:40] <Guest94642> what is problem?
[10:40] <gvo> rosco there is a "Guided - use the entire disk and setup LVM" option during install.
[10:40] <deepnote> REGISTER 06pwd. deepnote@inbox.lv
[10:40] <rory> gj
[10:41] <Ben64> Guest94642: not seeing a problem
[10:41] <Guest94642> recently i just installed sublimetxt on my ubuntu just that
[10:41] <Guest94642> Ben64, are you there?
[10:41] <Guest94642> Ben64, what should i do now?
[10:41] <Guest94642> Ben64, i just see applying changes ....
[10:41] <llutz> Guest94642: press"q"
[10:43] <Guest94642> Ben64, i did it is in process
[10:43] <Guest94642> llutz, i did it is in process
[10:46] <al3xprey> exit
[10:46] <al3xprey> -_-
[10:52] <andremahfouz> Hello
[10:53] <andremahfouz> I have an issue if anyone is willing to help
[10:53] <andremahfouz> I was trying to install ubuntu gnome 14.04.3 LTS onto my windows desktop and I think I accidentally rendered the bootimage of windows obsolete
[10:54] <andremahfouz> After I pressed the LTV option on installation by mistake
[10:54] <andremahfouz> I think my files are still there I don't really care about windows I was just wondering if a fresh install of windows would fix this
[10:55] <andremahfouz> I was lazy and didn't back up
[10:55] <andremahfouz> Or partition prior to installation
[10:56] <andremahfouz> Because I knew I could partition from the installer but I misclicked
[10:57] <soulisson> Hi, it's my understanding that in Linux, a process has the same rights as its owner, is that correct?
[10:57] <Divi> why is so complicated to install a graphic card???? i always having the same fight with ubuntu...
[10:58] <deepnote> andremahfouz, if you dont care about windows, why don't you go on with ubuntu, did you lose your files?
[10:58] <boriseto> Divi, I can see your question is rhetorical ,but I wonder, what is your configuration?
[10:59] <andremahfouz> because I haven't salvaged the files
[10:59] <andremahfouz> Is there anyway of installing ubuntu while keeping media files?
[10:59] <deepnote> only is you installed on a diffrent partition
[10:59] <minimec> andremahfouz: I do not understand, what you want to know. Di you successfully install ubuntu? Did you apply some changes to the partition table? What does LTV mean? DO you mean LVM?
[11:00] <deepnote> are you trying to recover your media files?
[11:00] <andremahfouz> I'm trying to partition but the dpi is horrible from ubuntu I can't see the whole partitioning tab
[11:00] <andremahfouz> Yep
[11:00] <andremahfouz> @deepnote
[11:01] <andremahfouz> LVM* minimec
[11:01] <deepnote> ok , just boot your pc from cd and run testdisk
[11:02] <deepnote> or run photorec, it should be in "ultimate boot cd"
[11:02] <ABC-XYZ> Divi, why is installing a graphics card difficult? Usually it works out of the box, or if you have nvidia cards, you'll usually just have to click 2 buttons to get proprietary drivers?
[11:02] <deepnote> select your disk and write to a flash drive
[11:02] <andremahfouz> I have ubuntu on a USB flash drive
[11:03] <andremahfouz> But I'm currently in uni so I can't tackle this problem at the moment
[11:03] <Divi> boriseto, i have an intel procesor Intel® Core™ i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz × 8 with Intel® Sandybridge Desktop
[11:03] <ABC-XYZ> Divi: i would argue you wouldn't be able to find many general purpose OS'es where "installing a graphics card" is easier
[11:03] <Divi> yes it works out of the box, but i want to install some server of a game
[11:03] <Divi> and that dosnt work because open gl1.4
[11:03] <deepnote> if you r a windows guy, you can run file scavenger , i see it always works
[11:03] <ABC-XYZ> Divi: what graphics card do you have, in that case?
[11:04] <andremahfouz> deepnote: I'll try that when I get back home
[11:04] <andremahfouz> deepnote: Thanks man
[11:04] <Divi> its integrated on the cpu Intel® Sandybridge Desktop
[11:04] <deepnote> nothing, hope you recover yourefiles
[11:05] <andremahfouz> Have a good day fellas
[11:05] <andremahfouz> Thanks for the help
[11:05] <boriseto> Divi, arent the open source drivers actually great for that one?
[11:07] <ABC-XYZ> Divi: perhaps you mean opengl shader language 1.4? Your graphics chip might just not support that?
[11:07] <ABC-XYZ> Divi: what is the actual model of your graphics card? You could look at system settings - details
[11:10] <deepnote> i used to use xfce for years, did not have such problem. Unity files application is not fast enough to catch up with keyboard.
[11:11] <SagelessFox2> :O
[11:11] <deepnote> when i quick search for files or folders by just typing leading chars, the content is selected
[11:12] <deepnote> but not fast enough that it missing some characters and cannot select
[11:12] <deepnote> anyone having the same
[11:13] <trudko> Hi guys if I use openconnect and gnome vpn manager for VPN how to I route only part of traffic to specific domains through VPN?
[11:14] <deepnote> this was not the case in xfce, how fast you type doesnt matter it always points the right content
[11:16] <deepnote> trudko, paste "route" command output before and after vpn connection
[11:17] <sgo12> hi, I got a question regarding dnsmasq. I have asked in #dnsmasq, but no replies. I use `server 8.8.8.8` in my dns server's /etc/dnsmasq.conf. In one client, run dig @myserver example.com, it will resolve to ipA. but in the server, run dig @8.8.8.8 example.com, it will resolve to ipB. How can I let the client use ipB of example.com? thanks a lot.
[11:17] <trudko> deepnote: I see two lines were added
[11:18] <trudko> so I will add those lines under the Routes in gnome network manager?
[11:18] <deepnote> after vpn, is your default gateway changed?
[11:19] <trudko> deepnote: instead of IP there is *
[11:20] <trudko> and flags go from U  to UG and iFace wlan0 to ppp0
[11:21] <deepnote> * means route the networks traffic to default gw
[11:21] <deepnote> but there must be an IP of the network default under destination
[11:22] <deepnote> cant you just paste it here
[11:23] <Jakey3> can anyone confirm if this bug has been resolved https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1396361?comments=all https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1393169
[11:23] <trudko> deepnote: http://pastie.org/10760530
[11:23] <Jakey3> I am still getting this bug
[11:24] <cfhowlett>  Jakey3, both bugs clearly state "Incomplete".
[11:24] <k1l> Jakey3: are you on ubuntu 14.10?
[11:25] <Guest60141> ciao
[11:25] <Guest60141> !list
[11:26] <Divi> i run everithing i want in win whit it. in system details says Intel® Sandybridge Desktop
[11:28] <deepnote> trudko, it seems that vpn connection is not adding another gw to your routing table which i think your internet connection is not going through vpn.
[11:28] <deepnote> check you ip before and after vpn, using whatismyipaddress.com
[11:28] <boriseto> Divi, do you have specific problems with your opensource drivers or just wanted to know how to install the Intel drivers?
[11:29] <trudko> deepnote: it is different
[11:30] <deepnote> revert your default gw after you make vpn connection
[11:31] <deepnote> route add default gw 10.31.3.1 wlan0
[11:31] <deepnote> and check with route command
[11:32] <deepnote> check your ip address again
[11:33] <Jakey3> k1l, Linux a1 3.16.0-62-generic #83~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 26 22:52:39 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:33] <willther> não estou conseguindo achar no lubuntu onde adicionar third-Party Software
[11:34] <Jakey3> cfhowlett, how can i check the progress of this bug as it affects me regualry
[11:34] <cfhowlett> Jakey3, subscribe to the bug
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !it | willther
[11:34]  * cfhowlett guesses that is Italian ?
[11:34] <Jakey3> what extra info do i get from subscribing to  simply viewing the bug
[11:35] <willther> cant find where add third-party software in lubuntu
[11:35] <cfhowlett> Jakey3, you get updates as the bug process proceeds
[11:35] <cfhowlett> willther, system > updater > settings > software sources
[11:35] <trudko> deepnote: i did it and I got DSN error bad config if I am connected through VPN
[11:36] <willther> thanks very much cfhowleft
[11:36] <cfhowlett> willther, sorry, look under "Other software" for partners
[11:36] <willther> i got it
[11:36] <willther> thanks
[11:37] <cfhowlett> happy2help! willther
[11:37] <willther> i'm trying lubuntu, but i allways use ubuntu
[11:39] <deepnote> did you have internet connection after you changed default gw
[11:39] <bashrc> question: in 16.04 will old kernel versions get cleared out automatically?
[11:39] <trudko> deepnote: no if I am connected trhough VPN
[11:39] <trudko> I had to disconnect
[11:40] <trudko> how should I revert the route add because it seems to screw my internet connectionw hen using vpn
[11:43] <trudko> deepnote: ^^
[11:46] <cfhowlett> bashrc, if not: sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:46] <cfhowlett> bashrc, but ask #ubuntu+1
[11:47] <deepnote> trudko, "route add " command is not persistant
[11:47] <PrettyBoy2000> hei i had laptop axioo neon MNC and i installed ubuntu but why my screen stuck at 800x600
[11:47] <deepnote> just restart networking
[11:47] <trudko> deepnote: ok just reconnect to vpn?
[11:47] <deepnote> yes
[11:48] <trudko> ok
[11:48] <deepnote> but you are still connecting to internet thru vpn which is not good
[11:49] <deepnote> maybe you should ask your vpn admim
[11:49] <trudko> you were ofc correct it works, but why the route add didnt work out? Should I try it again?
[11:51] <deepnote> "route add" should revert back your default gw and you should be able to connect to internet as if you didn't make a vpn connection
[11:52] <deepnote> but now im out of ideas
[11:52] <trudko> deepnote: yeah once I reconnected vpn worked normaly(still slow but normally)
[11:53] <trudko> deepnote: still thank you for your time I appreciate it
[11:53] <trudko> Maybe some one else could help , or maybe I should try different channel
[11:54] <deepnote> trudko, some vpn admins won't allow vpn and internet at the same time
[11:55] <deepnote> they force the internet thru vpn, maybe you are hitting that kind of a config
[11:56] <deepnote> because the admin don't want the pc connected to different nets while vpn connected
[11:57] <trudko> deepnote: ok and what exactly sudo route add default gw 10.31.3.1 wlan0 does?
[11:58] <deepnote> it sets the default gateway of your wireless interface to the ip
[11:59] <deepnote> which means any data which is not in your route will be forwarded to default gw
[12:04] <Sourcey> Hello. I'm having problems adding new users. They seem to automaticly get access to all folders on the system. Even when using this setting up : adduser --home /var/www/FOLDER/ USER
[12:05] <llutz> Sourcey: setting $HOME won't limit access to other folders
[12:06] <Sourcey> Ok, how to fix this? I seem to recall doing this earlier and it worked fine
[12:06] <llutz> Sourcey: you might want to look at "chroot users"
[12:08] <Sourcey> ok thanks, i'll check it out
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[12:15] <justinabrahms> Anyone have a clue how I can change the file upload dialog that pops up with chrome? I'd love to find one that will show me an image preview.
[12:17] <adrian_1908> justinabrahms: I doubt that's possible, that should be hard-coded into the browser.
[12:17] <justinabrahms> adrian_1908: really? I feel like on osx, there's a file preview mechanism? Unless they hard-coded that one to just be better, which seems unlikely.
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> and chrome is not opensource, iirc
[12:19] <justinabrahms> so, I get the exact same issue if I try to upload a file in my linux slack client (which is, I think, a webkit browser w/ electron), so it's certainly some aspect of a system-wide thing.
[12:19] <adrian_1908> justinabrahms: Hmm, not sure. I don't use Chrome. But afaik the developers cooks their own soup instead of using common frameworks like GTK or Qt.
[12:19] <justinabrahms> adrian_1908: so.. do you use firefox or similar?
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> justinabrahms  or chromium
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:20] <justinabrahms> The same dialog appears in firefox.
[12:20] <justinabrahms> It's a system-wide thing.
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj
[12:20] <adrian_1908> justinabrahms: ok, I might be mistaken then.
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Hi MonkeyDust
[12:21] <adrian_1908> justinabrahms: do you have a website where I can test it on, I can't think of one right now.
[12:22] <justinabrahms> adrian_1908: http://www.megafileupload.com/ click select file, then click the big grey box.
[12:22] <hateball> Uploading a file using Chromium brings up a Qt filepicker at any rate, which has a preview function
[12:22] <justinabrahms> I want the resulting popup to include an image preview.
[12:22] <hateball> Perhaps the GTK filepicker does not
[12:22] <hateball> (I'm using KDE hence Qt)
[12:22] <justinabrahms> hrm. Looks like it does for already for certain image types... *shrug* going to call this "fixed" for me.
[12:22] <justinabrahms> bleh
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> !info qml-module-qtquick-dialogs | justinabrahms this?
[12:22] <justinabrahms> Thanks anyway. :)
[12:22] <PrettyBoy2000> help me!, my ubuntu resolution stuck at 800x600 i installed in Axioo Neon MNC
[12:23] <adrian_1908> justinabrahms: I get an image preview, but I'm on Xubuntu, so that doesn't apply.
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> PrettyBoy2000: ubuntu version?
[12:23] <PrettyBoy2000> 14.02 LTS
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> PrettyBoy2000  in a terminal, type   xrandr   and paste it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:23] <justinabrahms> :+1: all fine. thx. :D
[12:23] <adrian_1908> cool :)
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> PrettyBoy2000: update to latest
[12:23] <PrettyBoy2000> did it work?
[12:26] <aash> when i try to login to the machine,When i enter password of the machine it not giving any response...?
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> aash  what's the output of  cat /etc/issue
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> aash  ctrl-alt f1 to find out
[12:30] <aash> its a server machine...not able to login..its not showing any result when i enter password..
[12:58] <k370> great here i am
[12:58] <k370> anyone can hel-me instal adb on ubuntu
[12:58] <popey> !info android-tools-adb | k370
[12:58] <popey> ^ install that
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> k370  type   sudo apt install android-tools-adb
[13:08] <scottder> Is anyone else having issues with updates? "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/main/source/Sources  Hash Sum mismatch"
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> scottder: added ppa's of any kind mate?
[13:09] <scottder> No
[13:10] <Pici> scottder: I didn't have any issues here, I just upgraded 3 trusty boxes.
[13:11] <ioria> scottder, usually it goes away ... do you have a 'ban symbol' in the upper bar ?
[13:11] <scottder> ugh...ok and now it seems fine
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> scottder  +1
[13:12] <ioria> scottder, +2
[13:12] <scottder> Thanks all :)
[13:12] <Pici> ioria: whats a ban symbol?
[13:12] <ioria> Pici ban symbol transit  ... ^_^
[13:13] <ioria> Pici  something like this https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segnaletica_stradale_in_Italia#/media/File:Italian_traffic_signs_-_senso_proibito_%28early%29.svg
[13:14] <Pici> ioria: ah
[13:14] <ioria> Pici  happened to me a couples of time ... just rebooted and it goes away
[13:14] <Pici> ioria: weird
[13:15] <ioria> Pici  yeah
[13:18] <deef> anyone here who knows about using ubuntu commercially?
[13:18] <deef> is it legal?
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> deef: you mean payed support?
[13:18] <ioria> Pici  http://askubuntu.com/questions/197595/what-does-this-red-icon-on-my-panel-mean
[13:19] <phil42> what's in 3.13.0-83.89 ?
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> deef  if you can make someone pay for ubuntu, without breaking the law, i admire you
[13:20] <popey> deef: define "using ubuntu commercially"?
[13:20] <k1l> phil42: can you give more info to your question?
[13:20] <phil42> new kernel for trusty
[13:20] <deef> at first, i would like to give live support by phone or even on site for a very acceptable fee yes
[13:20] <popey> deef: you can provide support for ubuntu users at cost, for sure.
[13:21] <popey> deef: plenty of people already do that
[13:21] <phil42> not .89   .127
[13:21] <k1l> phil42: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-meta_3.13.0.83.89/changelog
[13:21] <deef> at second i'd like to host webshops and webservices on a apache and/or tomcat javaserver on ubuntu
[13:21] <deef> jsp or  php
[13:22] <popey> deef: plenty of people do that too
[13:22] <popey> deef: you might want to look at the canonical IP policy, but (i am not a lawyer) what you're saying is all fine and legal.
[13:23] <deef> ok thx a lot !!
[13:23] <popey> np
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> deef: there is also a contact page to ask questions to canonical
[13:23] <phil42> k1l,  all that has is the abi change
[13:24] <k1l> phil42: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.13.0-83.127/changelog
[13:26] <phil42> rebooting
[13:38] <pragomer_1> I expanded the rights of my normal user a little bit. via sudo visudo. how can I activate these changes with doing a reboot??
[13:38] <pseudonymous> Hi - if I wanted to learn how to roll packages and run a private apt repo, would anyone know of any excellent starter resources ? Preferably not just the debian pkg maintainers guide. I'm asking because I end up manually installing too much because of outdated packages (I manually installed mono, fsharp, JDK, node, go and likely more)
[13:39] <baizon> pseudonymous: https://askubuntu.com/questions/71510/how-do-i-create-a-ppa
[13:40] <djmentos> hi
[13:40] <pseudonymous> baizon: due to licensing I don't think a PPA is wise (JDK, chrome, that sort of thing)
[13:40] <baizon> pseudonymous: make it private then
[13:41] <pseudonymous> I guess I'm actually content splitting it up - 1) how do I get going on making packages. I'll look into / solve hosting an apt repo myself once the first part works
[13:45] <mike123_> hi
[13:45] <ioria> pseudonymous, you mean https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal ?
[13:47] <pseudonymous> ioria: that's interesting, thanks! - Between that and pbuilder, things are beginning to look manageable
[13:47] <ioria> pseudonymous, you're welcome
[13:48] <djmentos> does someone know what are the necessary  IPv6 fields in NetworkManager? i can't save my config - Apply button is disabled.
[13:53] <ppf> i'm trying to install and load nvidia drivers for my gtx 470. however, upon modprobe, i get "The NVIDIA GPU installed in this system is not supported"
[13:53] <ppf> both with the 352 version from apt and with the latest official release
[13:54] <ppf> any idea how to debug what's tripping the driver here?
[13:54] <ppf> or are nvidia driver questions frowned upon too much? :)
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> ppf: whats your ubuntu version mate?
[13:55] <ppf> 15.10
[13:56] <hateball> isnt 340 the latest to support 4xx series?
[13:56] <hateball> hmmmm
[13:56] <ppf> here's the full dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15391716/
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> ppf: can you tell us wich drivers are listed in your additional drivers list?
[13:57] <ppf> according to nvidia.com both 352 and 361 support the gtx 470.
[13:57] <baizon> nvidia <3
[13:57] <ppf> lotuspsychje: i'm running headless, any way i can list those from the terminal?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> dpkg -l | grep  nvidia
[13:58] <SagelessFox2> Is there anyway to run virtmanager on a none-linux system ?
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> ppf: ubuntu-drivers
[13:58] <w0jtas> when i try to install 15.10 it doesn't detect my hard drive, what i can do to fix it ? 15.04 installs just fine
[14:00] <ppf> lotuspsychje: nvidia-{340,352,304}{,-updates}
[14:00] <ppf> oh and amd64-microcode
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> ppf: perhaps try the 352-updates and reboot?
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | ppf if things get bad
[14:01] <ppf> what's the difference between the vanilla and -updates package?
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> ppf: http://askubuntu.com/questions/700206/ubuntu-15-10-nvidia-driver-or-updates
[14:04] <krobzaur> Anyone having struggles with the latest kernel update on 14.04? When I upgraded this morning my system encountered this super weird segmentation fault on reboots after I upgraded
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> krobzaur: rebooted fine here after updates
[14:05] <krobzaur> I used apt-get to purge the new kernel (3.19.0-56), and rolled back to -51 but I'm curious about whether or not anyone else encountered problems
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> krobzaur: there are new kernel exploits out, so be carefull ok
[14:05] <ppf> lotuspsychje: i'll give it a try
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> !usn | krobzaur
[14:05] <krobzaur> lotuspsychje: Yeah, it could be my particular hardware. I didn't read the error messages in too much detail I just rolled back the kernel cuz this happens a lot
[14:06] <ppf> however, as the latest drivers don't help, i'm not confident
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> ppf: best driver, is the driver working best for your card/system
[14:06] <willther> Hi
[14:06] <hateball> ppf: if all else fails, you can try a driver from https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> ppf: test out a few versions until you get it straight
[14:07] <krobzaur> Dam, this is mildly alarming. I'll have to get this upgrade working ASAP
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> krobzaur: where does it hang exactly?
[14:09] <ppf> wow, i stand corrected, the driver actually loads
[14:09] <sgo11> Please help. I just use ctrl+alt+l to lock my screen. the screen is locked. but the screen is frozen. the password field is missing. how can I unlock the screen??/
[14:09] <sgo11> emergency.....
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> ppf: wich one
[14:09] <ppf> 352-updates
[14:09] <ppf> "works" as in the module loads
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> ppf: great, test a youtube or game :p
[14:10] <ppf> running headless ;)
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> ahh :p
[14:10] <krobzaur> lotuspsychje: I didn't nail down the exact point in the reboot process, and my system completely hangs when it ocurrs so I don't know if I'll be able to track down where it occurs.
[14:10] <ppf> new problem: cuda doesn't depend on the -updates package but on the vanilla package ...
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> krobzaur: maybe an F1 to text and see at wich point it freeze exactly? write error?
[14:12] <krobzaur> lotuspsychje: Yeah thats the problem the system doesn't respond to keyboard input after the error occurs so I can't switch virtual terminals
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> krobzaur: can you make system boot in "quiet splash" off "" ? perhaps you might catch the error
[14:12] <krobzaur> lotuspsychje: I managed to see the error because I hit the up arrow immediately after rebooting so I could see the messages printed to the screen and not the purpose ubuntu splash
[14:13] <efpeoi> Hi guys ! How do you run a ".run" file without doing "./program.run", some things like "source program.run" or "sh program.run" or "bash program.run" doesn't work !
[14:13] <krobzaur> purple*
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> efpeoi  maybe with sudo
[14:13] <efpeoi> the ".run" file is +x btw
[14:13] <MoPac> Hello. I have an intermittent problem in 15.10 (HP Envy x360 hybrid notebook). My touchpad will become erratic and unreliable, often after a resume or logout/login or at startup, but not always. The position and motion become somewhat random, and there are phantom left and right clicks (though if I don't touch it at all, nothing happens). I have to reboot to fix it.
[14:13] <krobzaur> efpeoi: Maybe its some sort of compiled executable and not a bash script
[14:14] <efpeoi> krobzaur, this is a binary, exactly !
[14:14] <MoPac> Just now, I rebooted to fix it and it happened again on boot, so since I'm in the middle of an episode but can still use my touchscreen just fine, I'm hoping for advice on what logs to check or things to try in order to pin the problem down
[14:14] <krobzaur> efpeoi: If its a precompiled binary I don't think you can run it with a shell. There is nothing for the shell to parse because it isn't a script
[14:14] <efpeoi> MonkeyDust, i can't because in fact this is for a puppet template file :/
[14:14] <MoPac> This is a dual-boot machine with Windows, and I've never noticed the problem on Windows, so I don't think it's strictly a hardware issue
[14:15] <krobzaur> lotuspsychje: O
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> MoPac: did you test this on an LTS version also?
[14:15] <krobzaur> lotuspsychje: If I wanted to run the kernel upgrade again, should I use "apt-get dist-upgrade" or just "apt-get upgrade"?
[14:15] <dobie_gillis> hey, i'm running into a problem initializing a virtualenv with python 3 in ubuntu 16.04. it tells me to install the python3-venv package, but it's already installed, and i've tried reinstalling. anyone else seeing this problem?
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> krobzaur: yeah sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> dobie_gillis: #ubuntu+1 for xenial support please
[14:16] <rassul> someone speak portuquese here_
[14:16] <MoPac> lotuspsychje: This particular machine has never had an LTS version running on it (except for some 16.04 images, but I wouldn't count those).
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[14:16] <krobzaur> lotuspsychje: Alright I'm gonna give this another go. Hopefully I'll come back with more details about the problem. I can always boot into the older kernel to get back here so I'll report back soon. THanks for the help
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> MoPac: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and hibernate/come back see what errors it spits out, and file a bug
[14:19] <krobzaur> lotuspsychje: Alright for some reason apt isn't seeing the kernel upgrade. I updated my repos before trying the upgrade but apt just says there's nothing to install
[14:20] <MoPac> I'll try the hibernate now. I hadn't seen anything obvious in the syslog or other obvious log files before -- was hoping maybe there was something more specific in terms of logs or config/status files I could check for input devices.
[14:21] <marus> i've run sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdb1 and it take a loooong time, should i abort it? or will that damage the harddrive
[14:21] <ppf>  so, any idea how to cuda off the ground alongside teh nvidia-352-updates driver?
[14:22] <rassul> estou com problemas , nao consigo baixar aplicacoes no ubuntu center porque diz fonte desconhecida
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> !english | rassul
[14:22] <vdevnull> Hello people, I'm running android-studio but i've problem with EVIROMENT_VARIABELS,
[14:23] <vdevnull> PANIC: HOME is defined but could not find Hello.ini file in $HOME/.android/avd
[14:23] <vdevnull> (Note: avd is searched in the order of $ANDROID_AVD_HOME,$ANDROID_SDK_HOME/.android/avd and $HOME/.android/avd)
[14:23] <MoPac> lotuspsychje: Actually, hibernate is failing, so that test won't be so easy...
[14:23] <vdevnull> how to let $android_AVD_HOME Points to /home/user/.android/...
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> krobzaur: could it be due, you removed latest kernel yourself perhaps?
[14:26] <krobzaur> lotuspsychje: Yeah I ran "apt-get purg 3.19.0-56
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> MoPac: maybe add your syslog and dmesg to the bug then
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> krobzaur: uname -a now?
[14:26] <ppf> okay, i've successfully installed cuda and build and ran the samples
[14:27] <ppf> yay me
[14:27] <krobzaur> lotuspsychje: But I think I can just install everything I need using "apt-get install 3.19.0-56". However I did notice this installs the "vivid" generic kernel images. Is that supposed to happen? I'm running trusty
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> ppf: what did you install exactly
[14:27] <MoPac> lotuspsychje: So there aren't any logs/files to check specifically for the state of the touchpad as an input device?
[14:27] <ppf> the nvidia-352-updates driver and the cuda toolkit using the .run installer from nvidia
[14:27] <krobzaur> lotuspsychje: Linux kyle-ThinkStation-P900 3.19.0-51-generic #58~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 26 22:02:58 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:27] <ppf> the latter one isn't too happy about the driver, but i didn't listen
[14:28] <vdevnull> What is the default Ubuntu 14.04 root password?
[14:28] <ppf> now, one last question: i have to run the samples as root at least once before they work successfully for a user
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> !root | vdevnull
[14:29] <ppf> is there any way around that?
[14:29] <vdevnull> ty
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> krobzaur: try reinstall latest yes, or recoverymode/fixbrokenpackages
[14:29] <marus> i've run sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdb1 and it take a loooong time, should i abort it? or will that damage the harddrive
[14:29] <ppf> i'm guessing that someone needs to initialize the driver and create the nvidia0 device and the lot.
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> MoPac: syslog and dmesg should hold most of issues
[14:30] <ppf> most of the time that's probably X, but not in my case obviously. any other way to trigger it?
[14:30] <MoPac> lotuspsychje: k, thanks
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> MoPac: i would also test an LTS version, just to test if this happens there aswell
[14:39] <exospecies> hi
[14:39] <nelsk> I'm getting 404s from the download page links found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[14:39] <nelsk> What's the recommended way to get ahold of 16.04 desktop at this point?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> nelsk: please join #ubuntu+1 for xenial
[14:39] <exospecies> when trying to login there is a quick text that is too quick to read, that throws me out and makes me login again... it says something about crypt
[14:39] <nelsk> lotuspsychje: will do, thank you
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> exospecies  reboot, when you see the 5 dots, hit F12 to see what happens
[14:47] <exospecies> MonkeyDust: it made me see some lines of text for a short while, then same thing happened
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> exospecies  can you ctrl alt f1
[14:49] <exospecies> MonkeyDust: yes
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> exospecies  ok, what's the output of dmesg | tail   http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> oh, can't use that, obviously
[14:54] <jtreminio> Hello all - I've been told keepalived's max PASS length is 8 char, but I can't find any documentation on if this is still accurate. Does anyone know?
[14:55] <exospecies> MonkeyDust: there is some lxsession segfault
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> exospecies  is that lubuntu, or did you use lubuntu before?
[14:57] <Flexman> hi
[14:57] <Flexman> say is it possible to install Ubunto over a fedora installation and keeping the files in the home-directory?
[14:57] <exospecies> i think it's lubuntu
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> Flexman  no, the config files are different
[15:00] <Flexman> MonkeyDust: ok thank you
[15:00] <ppf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15392163/
[15:00] <jshriver> greetings, does Unit/Ubuntu desktop use a different password than system?
[15:00] <CosmicNoise> Guys, I have NEVER been able to get my computer to be friendly with usb flash drives. Every time I try to use one and transfer files to it, it hangs in the process (either at the very beginning with like 65.5kb transferred, or at the end where it has reached 100% transfer but the process will just not end).
[15:00] <jshriver> Keeps saying my admin password is incorrect.  Yet I can login and even sudo su so  have roots password
[15:00] <CosmicNoise> This usually results in the pendrive becoming corrupted/useless, and everytime I plug it in I get errors about mounting, unmounting, or "There is data that needs to be written to the device before it can be removed.
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> CosmicNoise  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[15:00] <ppf> this is where i am currently. running cuda code both as root or user _sometimes_ works, and sometimes ands with that error
[15:00] <jshriver> trying to change the network settings
[15:01] <kernelus> hi
[15:01] <CosmicNoise> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l
[15:01] <kernelus> WHat distros you have guys?:)
[15:02] <k1l> !flavors | kernelus
[15:02] <CosmicNoise> It works perfectly fine on my windows HD on the same machine, but linux just can't deal with it.
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> kernelus  ENIAC OS
[15:02] <jshriver> Can you change the Ubuntu-desktop adming password from the commandline as root?\
[15:02] <hateball> !recovery | jshriver
[15:02] <jshriver> system works fine
[15:02] <exospecies> seems like the error message is cryptswap, no such file or directory
[15:02] <jshriver> my password works, my root password works\
[15:03] <jshriver> but when I try to change the network settings it says admin password doesnt
[15:03] <jshriver> its just the root password right?\
[15:04] <jshriver> So seems Unity/Ubuntu-desktop uses a password set that is not system based aka /etc/passwd /etc/shadow
[15:04] <jshriver> but no idea how to change that
[15:04] <jshriver> rebooting into single user mode is only to change root passwd, etc
[15:08] <jshriver> man noone knows?
[15:08] <jshriver> wtf would they use a seperate password than the system? it's retarded
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> jshriver: please keep it polite here
[15:09] <k1l> jshriver: there is no root password on ubuntu.
[15:09] <bezaban> jshriver: it's likely the user password used for sudo access
[15:09] <jshriver> sorry just frustrated.. I dont even use the GUI but it insists on the Network Manager for settings
[15:09] <jshriver> bezaban: tried that
[15:09] <jshriver> my user and root password for sudo su are the same
[15:09] <k1l> jshriver: ubuntu uses sudo. and that is the same password as the user got
[15:09] <k1l> jshriver: sudo su is dumb
[15:10] <k1l> jshriver: so where is the exact issue now?
[15:10] <leandroboka> sudo visudo
[15:10] <jshriver> anyway I have complete cli access
[15:10] <jshriver> k1l: trying to change the network setting and it keeps asking for a  administrative password
[15:10] <k1l> its your users password.
[15:10] <jshriver> I tried the sudu and user password and neither work
[15:10] <jshriver> tried
[15:10] <jshriver> doesnt work
[15:11] <k1l> and i really hope you dont run the gui as root.
[15:11] <jshriver> but I changed my passwd via passwd in the cli not in the GUI
[15:11] <jshriver> no as a user
[15:11] <k1l> did you relogin since then?
[15:11] <jshriver> yes
[15:12] <jshriver> it acts like gnome uses a completely different password system than /etc/passwd /etc/shadow
[15:12] <jshriver> nvm fixed it
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> jshriver  how
[15:12] <jshriver> sudo su into root... then did a passwd on root
[15:12] <archless> lol
[15:13] <jshriver> Sorry for the hastle
[15:13] <LuckyTux> Hey guys!
[15:13] <jshriver> Is there anyway I can disable this Network Manager and go back to the tried and true /etc/network style configuration?
[15:13] <jshriver> so I can completely ditch X
[15:14] <k1l> jshriver: if you use the network/interfaces networkmanager will not use the devices managed there anyway
[15:19] <arik> Hi! After installing Ubuntu I am unable to boot my Windows partition
[15:19] <arik> I tried using Boot-repair but it  gives me an error
[15:20] <arik> My Boot Info script is here http://hastebin.com/rililisolo.coffee
[15:20] <davido_> I was just thinking how fantastic it would be if I could cause a window to bounce to a different monitor automatically when I shift workspaces.
[15:20] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: (1) boot-repair is an old tool so it might not work correctly, (2) have you tried [ sudo update-grub ] in a terminal?
[15:21] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, I haven't let me try that now
[15:21] <CosmicNoise> No help for my USB issues? How do I get xubuntu to be friendly with USB flash drives?
[15:21] <littlephoneyfufu> CosmicNoise: Well, what's not playing nice?
[15:22] <arik> I received the following error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[15:22] <arik> Also Note, I'm on a live USB, after repairing Windows MBR using a repair disk...I was unable to boot to UBuntu
[15:22] <CosmicNoise> littlebear, any time I try to transfer files to a usb flash drive, it either hangs at the very beginning (usually at 65.5kb), or it goes all the way to the end, but the file transfer window doesn't close and the transfer is never "finalised".
[15:22] <CosmicNoise> littlephoneyfufu, that was for you, sorry ^^^
[15:22] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: if you run [ cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit ] and toss me the link I can see what might be wrong
[15:23] <littlephoneyfufu> Cos
[15:23] <CosmicNoise> littlephoneyfufu, this usually leads to me trying to eject the usb drive after a long wait, at which point it tells me data is still being written to it and I can't eject it.
[15:23] <littlephoneyfufu> CosmicNoise: What filesystem are you using on the drive?
[15:23] <arik> Here you go
[15:23] <arik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15392407/
[15:23] <CosmicNoise> littlebear, so I pull it out, and at that point, the usb drive isp retty much broken - either won't mount, won't unmount, can'tw rite to it, can't delete files because it turns itself into a read only file system...
[15:24] <CosmicNoise> littlephoneyfufu, I've tried formatting them to NTFS, ext4 and FAT32 in gparted. None of them seem to solve the issue.
[15:25] <littlephoneyfufu> CosmicNoise: well, that's because you pulled it out before it was finished with the file transfer... but, just for kicks, may I ask if you've tried with another USB drive?
[15:25] <CosmicNoise> littlephoneyfufu, http://pastebin.com/LKrKzdiC
[15:25] <CosmicNoise> littlephoneyfufu, I have a whole drawer full of usb flash drives that my computer has chewed up and spat out. Tried many, same results over and over. Different brands, different sizes, etc.
[15:25] <CosmicNoise> littlephoneyfufu, absoutely fine with hard disk usb drives.
[15:25] <CosmicNoise> littlebear, just not flash drives or sd cards, etc.
[15:26] <arik> clear
[15:26] <arik> whoops
[15:26] <CosmicNoise> littlephoneyfufu, the drives can usually be resuscitated by formatting them in Windows, and after that they work in windows, but trying them again in linux and they get broken again. It's frustrating as hell.
[15:27] <littlephoneyfufu> CosmicNoise: fstab wouldn't tell me anything about that...
[15:27] <arik> Wait was that for me?
[15:27] <CosmicNoise> littlephoneyfufu, woops, I thought your instruction was for me haha! It was for arik. Forget that...
[15:28] <arik> Ohh I see lol
[15:29] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: I still need the output of /etc/fstab from you
[15:29] <arik> Oh I thought I sent it
[15:29] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15392407/
[15:29] <arik> Sorry
[15:30] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: What that's telling me is that you have no partition with Ubuntu installed on it
[15:30] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, Is it because I am on live-usb right now?
[15:31] <littlephoneyfufu> CosmicNoise: Hmm, that's weird... I've never heard of your hardware chewing up USB drives
[15:31] <CosmicNoise> littlephoneyfufu, not literally...
[15:31] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, after running some bootrec commands on windows repair disk, I haven't been able to boot Ubuntu
[15:31] <CosmicNoise> Maybe I'll just try a different distro. Getting bored with xubuntu anyway.
[15:31] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: Yep, there's your problem... You should make sure it's mounting what's on your hard disk...
[15:31] <Village> Hello Guys, if eggdrop script can't load package json, what package i need install?
[15:32] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, Okay but I am unable to boot to Ubuntu it seems
[15:32] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, given that the installation was new, should I reinstall and try it again?
[15:33] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, or is there any way I can do that here
[15:33] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: Hmm, not yet
[15:33] <arik> Alright
[15:33] <arik> Appreciate the help thus far btw :)
[15:33] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: Looking at your boot info log, you have 2 drives...
[15:34] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, Indeed. One that should be ubuntu and one that should be windows
[15:34] <Nukien_> Odd situation here - new partition on drive formatted as xfs - mount won't recognize it without using "-t xfs" and then it mounts fine
[15:34] <Nukien_> The drive was originally a zfs drive, so perhaps there are 2 signatures on it ?
[15:35] <Nukien_> Because of this the dev/disk/by-uuid entry for the partition isn't created, so can't mount using UUID
[15:35] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: OK, my guess is that boot-repair didn't find the drive with Windows on it...
[15:35] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: I also noticed you have a UEFI system as well
[15:36] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, I see.
[15:36] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, I do yep
[15:36] <Nukien_> Any ideas ?
[15:36] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: so if you head back into your Ubuntu system installed on the hard disk, we can continue from there
[15:36] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, okay so then start re-installing?
[15:37] <littlephoneyfufu> No, just reboot into Ubuntu on your hard disk, arik
[15:37] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, I can't it won't show up anymore
[15:37] <littlephoneyfufu> littlephoneyfufu: then come back into this channel
[15:37] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: huh? Ubuntu isn't showing up?
[15:37] <littlephoneyfufu> I'm confused
[15:37] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, It won't anymore no. It used to but then I used a windows repair disk to repair Windows MBR
[15:38] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, ever since then it will no longer show up
[15:38] <littlephoneyfufu> Oh OK... So  there is a quick fix for that
[15:38] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: ^
[15:38] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, I like quick fixes haha Am ready
[15:38] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: Pastebin the output of [ sudo efibootmgr ]
[15:39] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15392516/
[15:40] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: Oh OK... So we need to write in a new .efi file that will get you to GRUB
[15:41] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, Alright
[15:41] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: [ sudo parted -l ] please
[15:42] <arik> pastebin that ?
[15:42] <littlephoneyfufu> Yeah
[15:42] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, Here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/15392540/
[15:43] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: Hold on... So one of these is a UEFI disk, and the other is an MBR-based disk...
[15:43] <arik> From what I can tell yes
[15:44] <arik> Honestly I'm not exactly sure how it came this way
[15:44] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: So, uh, does your machine have a Windows 8 sticker on it?
[15:44] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, No I built it
[15:45] <littlephoneyfufu> Well I can't tell if it's UEFI or MBR
[15:45] <arik> Anyway I can figure out for you?
[15:46] <littlephoneyfufu> Well, my guess is MBR, only because you're telling only Windows will boot and the only NTFS partition is on an MBR table
[15:47] <dougquaid> I'm using the gnuradio live CD which is essentially ubuntu 14.04 with gnuradio pre-installed. How can I install it to my hard drive so I don't have to boot from the CD every time?
[15:47] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, if it means anything before ubuntu stopped showing I did BOOTREC /FIXMBR
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> dougquaid  type /topic  to see what's supported here
[15:47] <paranoiko_koalak> hi
[15:47] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: Yep, you're MBR ):
[15:47] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: :)*
[15:47] <dougquaid> MonkeyDust: Yeah, it says 14.04 is supported here
[15:48] <niemand> greetings
[15:48] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, I see alright ha that scared
[15:48] <arik> me
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> dougquaid  so your derivative is not
[15:48] <littlephoneyfufu> dougquaid: But you're not using vanilla Ubuntu, and we don't support derivatives here
[15:48] <littlephoneyfufu> (Ninja'd)
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> dougquaid: there is a #gnuradio if you like
[15:49] <niemand> looking for graphic drivers for fujitsu siemens AH531 lifebook.  any help?
[15:49] <littlephoneyfufu> niemand: pretty sure it has an Intel card
[15:50] <niemand> yes
[15:50] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: so with that in mind, try [ sudo grub-install /dev/sda --recheck ]
[15:50] <danialbehzadi> Hi. Is there any official Libreoffice impress template for Ubuntu?
[15:51] <littlephoneyfufu> niemand: no additional drivers are needed
[15:51] <arik> The output was;
[15:51] <niemand> in the  fujitsu site there are only  windows drivers little:((
[15:51] <arik> Installing for i386-pc platform.
[15:51] <arik> grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[15:51] <EriC^^> arik: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:51] <EriC^^> and paste the link here
[15:51] <arik> http://termbin.com/mn29
[15:52] <EriC^^> you have a huge mess going on
[15:52] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: try rebooting the Live image and running the command again.
[15:52] <niemand> i have a proble with my screen little and I think it's a driver problem:/
[15:52] <EriC^^> ubuntu is in uefi mode and windows is in mbr legacy
[15:52] <niemand> *problem*
[15:52] <EriC^^> littlephoneyfufu: won't help i'm afraid
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> danialbehzadi: there is a #libreoffice channel if you like
[15:52] <EriC^^> arik: did you just fresh install ubuntu?
[15:53] <arik> EriC^^, On my 2nd drive yes I'm fairly sure
[15:53] <arik> Right now I'm on Live image
[15:53] <EriC^^> arik: yeah, it's never booted before right?
[15:53] <swenzel> is there a command like `ls` which will produce this output? https://github.com/manuels/texlive.js/blob/master/texlive.lst
[15:53] <littlephoneyfufu> EriC^^: I just assumed that his "bootrec /fixmbr" actually worked and he was able to boot into Windows...
[15:53] <nacc> swenzel: find
[15:53] <littlephoneyfufu> EriC^^: if you want you can take it from here
[15:54] <arik> EriC^^, it has just not after running bootrec commands
[15:54] <littlephoneyfufu> !PM | niemand
[15:54] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, No unfortunately bootrec didn't actually fix my ability to boot to windows :(
[15:54] <swenzel> nacc, great! thanks :)
[15:54] <EriC^^> littlephoneyfufu: no reason we can't dual team it
[15:54] <EriC^^> haha
[15:54] <danialbehzadi> lotuspsychje: I think official Ubuntu materials should be here, not in 3rd party channels.
[15:54] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, Even disconnecting Ubuntu's disk doesn't let me
[15:54] <littlephoneyfufu> Lol, fair enough
[15:55] <nacc> swenzel: np, probably with some specific parameters to get them in that order, or run it through | sort
[15:55] <littlephoneyfufu> arik: why didn't you tell me that? O.o
[15:55] <EriC^^> arik: ok, windows and ubuntu never worked together though right? or they were working fine?
[15:55] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, I'm sorry I thought I implied it  D:
[15:55] <arik> EriC^^, they haven't no
[15:55] <arik> EriC^^, they were when I was using kubuntu but that was a long time ago
[15:55] <EriC^^> arik: ok, is ubuntu the fresh install or windows or both maybe?
[15:56] <EriC^^> arik: the thing is you need windows and ubuntu both to be installed in the same mode, either legacy or uefi
[15:56] <arik> EriC^^, Ubuntu is the fresh install
[15:56] <EriC^^> right now windows is legacy, ubuntu is uefi
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> !info libreoffice-templates | danialbehzadi
[15:56] <arik> EriC^^, that's why I really want to preserve my windows
[15:56] <littlephoneyfufu> And if Windows was the fresh install how did it even work?
[15:56] <EriC^^> arik: ok, in the live usb can you type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi ?
[15:57] <EriC^^> arik: just let us know if it returns dir or says nothing found
[15:57] <arik> EriC^^, yep the output shows 7 or so files
[15:57] <arik> littlephoneyfufu, yeah windows was mature , not fresh install
[15:57] <EriC^^> arik: ok, so it's booted in uefi mode right now
[15:57] <EriC^^> arik: do you have any files in the ubuntu install you need?
[15:58] <arik> EriC^^, None whatsoever, everything is expendable
[15:58] <EriC^^> ok, you need to reboot the live usb, and boot it in legacy mode
[15:59] <EriC^^> arik: check the bios if it says anything like csm legacy enabled/disabled and set it to enabled
[15:59] <arik> Alright let me switch IRC to a stable computer lol
[15:59] <EriC^^> or in the boot options choose normal usb if there's usb and uefi usb
[15:59] <arik> EriC^^, Yeah I seen some boot options
[15:59] <arik> EriC^^, I believe if I did Uefi usb it showed just  a black screen with " >"
[16:00] <arik> or "
[16:00] <arik> "_
[16:00] <niemand> I have a fujitsu siemens AH531 lifebook and I have installed ubuntu studio 14.04 my screen blinncs sometimes and I thing is drivers problems. any help pls?
[16:00] <lapyo> install proprietary drivers
[16:00] <EriC^^> arik: try normal usb
[16:01] <lapyo> *use proprietary drivers
[16:01] <arik> EriC^^, I believe normal USB is what Im on now
[16:01] <arik> EriC^^, It just says the USB model name right?
[16:01] <niemand> there are only windows:(
[16:01] <littlephoneyfufu> niemand: #xubuntu may be able to help better by the way
[16:01] <niemand> thanks
[16:01] <EriC^^> arik: nope, must be some other option in the bios cause it's in uefi mode right now
[16:02] <arik> EriC^^, Alright ill get irc working on my laptop and try it
[16:02] <arik> and then you guys the options
[16:02] <EriC^^> ok
[16:02] <arik> ill probably be arik or arik1 or something
[16:02] <arik> :P
[16:02] <Nukien_> Odd situation here - new partition on drive formatted as xfs - mount won't recognize it without using "-t xfs" and then it mounts fine
[16:02] <Nukien_> Because of this the dev/disk/by-uuid entry for the partition isn't created, so can't mount using UUID
[16:03] <nacc> Nukien_: do you get the no superblock found message without -t xfs?
[16:04] <Nukien_> Nope - everything is completely fine
[16:04] <Hamster> habe ein Problem beim login nach upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15392751/
[16:04] <Nukien_> lsblk -f and blkid don't think there's a filesystem there though
[16:04] <littlephoneyfufu> !de ! Hamster
[16:04] <Nukien_> xfs_repair thinks it fine too
[16:04] <littlephoneyfufu> !de | Hamster
[16:04] <Hamster> oh sorry :)
[16:05] <Nukien_> I've forced a new uuid with xfs_admin -U and I can see it fine, but it doesn't show in /dev/disk/by-uuid, nor do lsblk or blkid see it
[16:05] <littlephoneyfufu> Hamster: if you speak English feel free to ask again, in English
[16:05] <nacc> Nukien_: sorry, you said it wasn't recognized without -t xfs. So what does it say?
[16:05] <Hamster> ok thanks
[16:05] <arik1> Alright so I have the following options for my USB
[16:05] <arik1> UEFI and my usbs name
[16:05] <Nukien_> nacc, It says more filesystems detected. This should not happen
[16:05] <arik1> im assuming my usb's name is "normal" ?
[16:06] <telboon> not really an Ubuntu qn, but for Docky users -- has anyone managed to split the icons by windows instead of applications? aka. if i have 2 chrome windows opened, it should show 2 chrome icons instead of merging them as 1 icon
[16:06] <nacc> Nukien_: can you pastebin the exact command you are running and the output?
[16:06] <Nukien_> And that drive was originally a zfs drive
[16:07] <arik1> EriC^^, I see my two HDDs, UEFI USB, and USB and my efi shell
[16:08] <Nukien_> nacc, yah, one sec
[16:08] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, try usb
[16:09] <arik1> EriC^^, i think UEFI works but sure
[16:09] <arik1> EriC^^, oh wait no normal usb is the one that doesnt work
[16:09] <arik1> EriC^^, "boot: "
[16:09] <EriC^^> arik1: oh, is csm legacy mode enabled in the bios?
[16:09] <arik1> EriC^^, Missing paramater in configuration file keyword: path"
[16:09] <EriC^^> is windows booting by itself right now?
[16:09] <arik1> EriC^^,  ill check and no windows does not boot
[16:10] <resc_040b2_23161> hello world.. need some help with a triple os repair after Win7 reinstall screwup
[16:11] <arik1> EriC^^, where would i find csm legacy
[16:11] <EriC^^> arik1: it should be under boot options
[16:11] <carini> :) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon. S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)㋛
[16:11] <carini> :) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon. S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)㋛
[16:11] <carini> _:) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon. S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)㋛
[16:11] <carini> ,.:) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon. S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)
[16:11] <carini> :) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon. S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)㋛
[16:12] <baizon> this guy again
[16:12] <arik1> EriC^^, Legacy ROM is enabled is that it?
[16:12] <EriC^^> arik1: i dont think so
[16:12] <Seveas> k1l: looks like you have a fan :)
[16:12] <SonikkuAmerica> For all possible values of "fan"
[16:13] <EriC^^> arik1: try booting "usb" again and when you get the error press tab
[16:13] <EriC^^> then type "live" and press enter
[16:13] <arik1> EriC^^, alright
[16:13] <Nukien_> nacc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15392869/
[16:14] <arik1> EriC^^, done so, is booting
[16:14] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, when you boot the live usb open a terminal
[16:14] <EriC^^> arik1: do you have stuff on windows you need?
[16:15] <EriC^^> i'm wondering about the very off-chance that windows is using the efi partition on ubuntu's hdd, it's extremely slim though
[16:15] <EriC^^> we can mount the efi partition and see what's in it just to make sure though
[16:15] <arik1> EriC^^, windows shouldnt be using anything on ubuntu's hdd unless it's changed recently?
[16:15] <resc_040b2_23161> EriC^^, can you help with a part table repair
[16:16] <arik1> EriC^^, i formatted ubuntu's HDD on windows before i installed ubuntu
[16:16] <Nukien_> nacc, It seems that the old zfs info is still there somehow
[16:16] <nacc> Nukien_: did you try wipefs? also waht does `file -sL /dev/sdk*` say?
[16:16] <EriC^^> arik1: oh ok, never mind then
[16:16] <EriC^^> resc_040b2_23161: yeah, what's up?
[16:17] <Nukien_> Did not do wipefs - file shows "/dev/sdk1: SGI XFS filesystem data (blksz 4096, inosz 256, v2 dirs)"
[16:17] <nacc> Nukien_: yeah, i think ZFS, possibly, for whatever reason, did something funky to the partition table, possibly, and it has two bits set
[16:17] <nacc> Nukien_: *or* the tooling you had didn't know to wipe the ZFS signature
[16:17] <nacc> Nukien_: what Ubuntu are you on?
[16:17] <resc_040b2_23161> have a triple boot os 17.2 & 14.04 did win7 attempt an think fragged parts.. can get rescatux to see them but am drawing blank on next step..
[16:17] <Nukien_> 14.04
[16:17] <dougquaid> I'm running do-release-upgrade on 14.04 but it says that no newer releases are available. How do I make it update to 15.10?
[16:17] <nacc> Nukien_: so ... no ZFS support :)
[16:17] <nacc> Nukien_: right?
[16:17] <Nukien_> heh - zol ...
[16:18] <Nukien_> The disk was moved from a 14.04 with zol box to this backup box without zol
[16:18] <arik1> EriC^^, For some reason it's taking a while...black screen with just mouse showing
[16:18] <EriC^^> resc_040b2_23161: you had 17.2 14.04 and installed windows and it doesn't boot now?
[16:18] <nacc> Nukien_: so i'd guess that's the issue; this box (Ubuntu) doesn't really know about ZFS at all. So you'd need to manually fixup the partition table to wipe the signature (or use wipefs as suggested)
[16:19] <Nukien_> mea culpa - I usually do zpool labelclear on them, but didn't here ...
[16:19] <nacc> Nukien_: np ... glad that the solution was easy
[16:19] <nacc> Nukien_: i think a `wipefs` and then a fresh `mkfs` should fix it, but not sure
[16:19] <Nukien_> heh - now need to figure out how to wipe the extraneous crap without losing the data
[16:19] <Nukien_> Not critical to lose the data, but painful
[16:20] <nacc> Nukien_: oh that *might* also be possible with `wipefs` then a fdisk or parted session to set the right value
[16:20] <nacc> Nukien_: i'm just guessing, but probably just need to set the partition table fs value to XFS
[16:20] <nacc> Nukien_: and right now it's either set to an unknown value (ZFS) or to multiple values (ZFS|XFS)
[16:20] <Nukien_> It's using gpt, type 8300
[16:20] <Nukien_>    1            2048      5860533134   2.7 TiB     8300  Linux filesystem
[16:21] <wiflix> morinn
[16:21] <nacc> Nukien_: that's the partition table format, not the type of the partition
[16:21] <resc_040b2_23161> EriC^^ am also not fast typist an this is first IRC EVER, have Satellite M645. Replaced Win7 orig with rafealea 17.2 n 1404 mate.. working slow but worked.. tried to use first 210 Gb to reinstall win7 (Non OEM).. used rescatux to UNINSTALL Win7 after not bring able to get boot selection screen back up.. Rescatux worked once before but now is saying FSCK detected & saying get a Sourceforge Boot Repair disk.. sorry so slow..fat
[16:21] <resc_040b2_23161> t fingers
[16:21] <wiflix> i configured my devices via /etc/systemd/network/ethLan.link file ... but i switched the mac addresses of ethLan and ethWan by fault. i then changed it back, but rebooting ubuntu keeps naming the device the wrong way. :-/
[16:22] <nacc> Nukien_: but not sure, you could try setting the type flag, but it might be something in the fs itself too
[16:22] <Nukien_> nacc, parted /dev/sdk print shows "1  1049kB  3001GB  3001GB Linux filesystem"
[16:22] <wiflix> deleted all files in /etc/systemd/network as well as /etc/network/interfaces.d there is also nothing in /etc/udev/rules.d
[16:22] <wiflix> where the heck does the rename of the device come from? :-/
[16:22] <EriC^^> resc_040b2_23161: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:22] <EriC^^> and paste the link here
[16:22] <Datz> Hi, I'm trying to copy something with emacs it is denoted as M-w. literally "M" w is not working. What does "M" represent?
[16:22] <akash_> Hi
[16:23] <arik1> EriC^^, erm launcher crashed and im having a terrible time doing anything right now
[16:23] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, try rebooting it
[16:23] <llutz> Datz: M - "Meta"
[16:23] <IdleOne> Datz: M is meta
[16:23] <ren0v0> hi, is there a sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mc3man/trusty-media   but for Wily ?
[16:23] <nacc> Nukien_: sorry, out of my depth at this point :/
[16:23] <Datz> llutz: IdleOne, I'm still unsure which key to press?
[16:23] <Nukien_> nacc, Hrm - wipefs -n /dev/sdk shows "wipefs: WARNING: /dev/sdk: appears to contain 'gpt' partition table"
[16:23] <ren0v0> i'm getting >>   Your GStreamer installation is missing a plug-in.
[16:23] <IdleOne> Datz: try the "windows" key
[16:23] <Nukien_> So I suppose it doesn't grok gpt ?
[16:23] <baizon> ren0v0: what are you searching? which package?
[16:24] <arik1> EriC^^, same thing with tab + live ?
[16:24] <resc_040b2_23161> EriC^^, that won't mess up this chat?? Not real sure how IRC really works but is good have real humans with brains to help
[16:24] <ren0v0> baizon, most google results say its ffmpeg  issue, but the fixes are for 14.04
[16:24] <nacc> Nukien_: i think you wanted to do `wipefs /dev/sdk1`, no?
[16:24] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah
[16:24] <llutz> Datz: right-alt sometimes
[16:24] <dierdrie> ren0v0 i had the same issue
[16:24] <dierdrie> and nothing worked
[16:24] <dierdrie> until i tried the last thing
[16:24] <ren0v0> lol, we need   gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg i think
[16:24] <llutz> Datz: "Emacs calls Esc the Meta key"  tried?
[16:24] <EriC^^> resc_040b2_23161: yeah, it won't mess it up, open a terminal and type it and it should give a link back
[16:24] <dierdrie> which resolved the problem
[16:25] <nacc> Nukien_: you could also try passing -t with the right type to only wipe ZFS off the partition
[16:25] <ren0v0> dierdrie, installed 14.04 ?
[16:25] <Nukien_> nacc, yer right - that shows 0x24000 as zfs_member, and 0x0 as xfs
[16:25] <dierdrie> datz i mean
[16:25] <dierdrie> no ren
[16:25] <resc_040b2_23161> Eric^^ Ok starting now
[16:25] <Nukien_> OK, here goes
[16:25] <dierdrie> i just made a prayey
[16:25] <dierdrie> i just made a prayer
[16:25] <dierdrie> try it
[16:25] <nacc> Nukien_: nice, so that's probably the root cause -- hope it works! :)
[16:25] <ren0v0> baizon, i guess i'm looking for "gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg" package
[16:25] <dierdrie> prayey can fix anything
[16:26] <Datz> llutz: IdleOne, esc works, thanks so much
[16:26] <dierdrie> my sister had leukemia
[16:26] <dierdrie> we prayed
[16:26] <ren0v0> mods
[16:26] <dierdrie> and the cancer went away
[16:26] <llutz> Datz: have fun. "Emacs is a great operating system – it lacks a good editor, though.”
[16:26] <Datz> lol
[16:27] <Datz> emacs-nox cuts it down a bit
[16:27] <bomberman> how's called russian ubuntu server here?
[16:27] <bomberman> i cant join it
[16:27] <Nukien_> nacc, Hrm. wipefs -o 0x24000 /dev/sdk1 shows "8 bytes were erased at offset 0x24000 (zfs_member) they were: 0c b1 ba 00 00 00 00 00"
[16:27] <llutz> !ru | bomberman
[16:27] <Nukien_> But the signature seems to still be there
[16:28] <Nukien_> Doesn't need to reboot does it ??
[16:28] <nacc> Nukien_: hrm, wipefs' man page does mention that some fs can put signatures in multiple spots :/
[16:28] <baizon> ren0v0: why do you need that?
[16:28] <nacc> Nukien_: i'm really not sure
[16:28] <nacc> Nukien_: i doubt it would need to reboot, although you might need to force the kernel to rescan the partition table
[16:29] <ren0v0> baizon, to solve my error i pasted above
[16:29] <ren0v0> this package is in all fixes for 14.04
[16:29] <arik1> EriC^^, yeah iunno boooting like this takes years just for it start the desktop enviroment
[16:29] <EriC^^> arik1: odd, did you checksum the iso?
[16:29] <Nukien_> partprobe /dev/sdk did fine, but no difference yet
[16:30] <arik1> EriC^^, I had yes
[16:30] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, great
[16:30] <EriC^^> arik1: try to boot into uefi mode, maybe we can convert the install to use legacy
[16:31] <arik1> EriC^^,  try without installing ?
[16:31] <EriC^^> yeah
[16:31] <baizon> ren0v0: have you tried installing gstreamer1.0-libav?
[16:31] <resc_040b2_23161> EriC^^, am still in rescatux shell LXTerm is complaining about Readonly filesystem..should go into functioning 500 Gb spare HDD shells an try chat there??
[16:32] <arik1> EriC^^, Okay so i'm ready
[16:32] <resc_040b2_23161> or should get the Sourceforge util n try that??
[16:33] <EriC^^> resc_040b2_23161: do you have any means of a live session? live usb live cd etc?
[16:33] <ren0v0> baizon, didn't work
[16:33] <EriC^^> ubuntu or debian etc os?
[16:33] <wiflix> can i make ubuntu forget about network interface names? it keeps renaming at reboot
[16:33] <wiflix> even if it is not specified anywhere
[16:34] <EriC^^> arik1: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:34] <llutz> wiflix: edit/remove /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[16:34] <tush> I set up a samba share on my desktop running ubuntu 14.4. I used the samba config tool set up my share folder. (using RAID5 sharing /mnt/rdisk/tush) I have a home network with a router and three computers.I can access the share from laptop running Windows10 and I can read files, but I cannot write (creat folder)to the share.
[16:34] <wiflix> llutz: does not exist
[16:34] <arik1> termbin.com/vdib5
[16:35] <resc_040b2_23161> EriC^^ am running a 17.2 n 10,04 500 Gb from other systems trying to fix the 1 Tb in Satellite with external power to 500 Gb.. can that work??
[16:35] <xsilv> !lis
[16:35] <xsilv> !list
[16:35] <EriC^^> resc_040b2_23161: yeah if you can access it from there
[16:35] <EriC^^> arik1: type sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[16:36] <arik1> done
[16:36] <tush> my samba config file here http://pastebin.com/Hz2EFCNZ
[16:36] <EriC^^> arik1: type sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab
[16:36] <tush> anyone free to help me regarding samba share???
[16:37] <arik1> EriC^^, alright im in the editot
[16:37] <arik1> editor
[16:37] <resc_040b2_23161> Can shut down rescatux shell n get onto desktop of 500 Gb.. Think have an IRC app in there or if min this wind, can reopen on desktop??
[16:37] <EriC^^> arik1: you should have a line that says uuid=..... /boot/efi , add a "#" at the start of it
[16:37] <EriC^^> then press ctrl+o to save
[16:37] <|avalon|> how to get uuid of partition ?
[16:37] <wiflix> llutz: other ideas? :) does ubuntu cache the device names somewhere?
[16:37] <EriC^^> |avalon|: sudo blkid /dev/sdxY
[16:38] <|avalon|> thx, EriC^^
[16:38] <EriC^^> np
[16:38] <llutz> wiflix: what names does your interface get?
[16:39] <resc_040b2_23161> Eric^^ appreciate help n chat back.. Unfort. have to to appt in half hour.. will try back later..Chat seems to be a very good thing.. need to have more time than I do at moment tho.. Thnks
[16:39] <arik1> EriC^^, so the 2nd uuid? see here paste.ubuntu.com/15393150
[16:39] <EriC^^> resc_040b2_23161: ok, no problem
[16:40] <dierdrie> hi again
[16:40] <EriC^^> arik1: yes
[16:40] <wiflix> llutz: ethWan. as i named it in /etc/systemd/network/ethWan.link before
[16:40] <arik1> EriC^^, saved
[16:40] <wiflix> llutz: now i removed that file, but the interface still gets named that way
[16:40] <dierdrie> do any of you have any ethical issues with using ubuntu ????
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> dierdrie  #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:40] <dierdrie> what monkey?
[16:41] <EriC^^> arik1: ok press ctrl+x to exit
[16:41] <llutz> wiflix: ah, systemd... sry no ideas
[16:41] <EriC^^> then type sudo cgdisk /dev/sdb
[16:41] <dierdrie> anyone?
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> dierdrie  random chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:41] <arik1> EriC^^, alright
[16:41] <datumhoard> hi can anyone help me make ubuntu upgrade to python 2.7.11? currently on version 2.7.6
[16:41] <dierdrie> this is not random
[16:42] <dierdrie> so? anyone?
[16:42] <EriC^^> arik1: we need to create a bios_boot partition for grub to work with gpt
[16:42] <dierdrie> do any of you have any ethical issues with using ubuntu ?????
[16:42] <arik1> EriC^^, indeed yeah, i believe thats what boot repair said as well
[16:42] <tylermoseley> ethical?
[16:42] <EriC^^> arik1: first delete the efi partition
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> !ot | dierdrie
[16:42] <dierdrie> i mean after that whole amazon lenz despicable behaviour
[16:42] <jushur> dierdrie: its not a support question, -offtopic plz..
[16:42] <arik1> EriC^^, done
[16:43] <craptalk> where can i ask about android studio?
[16:44] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, press new
[16:44] <datumhoard> anyone know how to upgrate python? tried terminal and tar download but still stuck on 2.7.6...
[16:44] <arik1> EriC^^, from free space right?
[16:44] <EriC^^> hit enter when it asks for start sector, then for size type 520M
[16:44] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah
[16:44] <arik1> EriC^^, i press enter and it prompts again
[16:45] <EriC^^> when it asks for hex code type ef00
[16:45] <EriC^^> arik1: for starting sector? or size in sectors?
[16:45] <arik1> EriC^^, size in sectors
[16:45] <nacc> datumhoard: what version of Ubuntu and to what version of python?
[16:45] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, type 520M
[16:46] <arik1> EriC^^, oh wait i used the wrong free spaec
[16:46] <arik1> EriC^^, this one is less than 1 mb\
[16:46] <arik1> EriC^^, yeah i keep inputing 520M and it keeps asking again
[16:47] <kubanc> how do I permanently delete route in routing table? For now I always need to put at the start command in terminal to remove a route
[16:47] <arik1> EriC^^, oh wait 520M is what 520 MB? the free space is less than that
[16:47] <EriC^^> arik1: asking for size in sector?
[16:47] <EriC^^> arik1: did you delete the efi partition?
[16:47] <arik1> EriC^^, yes and yes
[16:47] <EriC^^> it's about 530mb
[16:47] <EriC^^> you should have like 530mb free space at the start
[16:47] <tylermoseley> you can script out a route in routing table triggered from network/interfaces
[16:48] <tylermoseley> if it's just a one off
[16:48] <arik1> EriC^^, I have about four entries
[16:48] <arik1> EriC^^, free space 513 mb, 28.9 gb linux file system, 7.8 gb linux swap and 1 mb free space
[16:48] <EriC^^> 1mb at the start or end?
[16:49] <arik1> EriC^^,  there are two parts claiming as free space
[16:49] <datumhoard> nacc: 14.04 server with desktop current version of python is 2.7.6 trying to upgrade to 2.7.11
[16:49] <EriC^^> both at the top?
[16:49] <arik1> EriC^^, no, the 1 mb of free space is at the bottom
[16:49] <arik1> EriC^^, the 513 is at the top
[16:50] <EriC^^> arik1: great!
[16:50] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, press q to exit, don't save anything
[16:50] <arik1> EriC^^, 513 came from the efi paritition
[16:50] <EriC^^> then type sudo cgdisk /dev/sdb
[16:50] <arik1> EriC^^, ye
[16:50] <arik1> s
[16:50] <EriC^^> we can just use the bottom 1mb free space as the bios_boot
[16:51] <arik1> EriC^^, yeah  i created the 1 mb partition for this purpose but i didnt know how to flag it
[16:51] <EriC^^> make a partition there when it asks for hexcode type ef02
[16:51] <arik1> EriC^^, press enter twice?
[16:51] <EriC^^> yeah
[16:51] <arik1> EriC^^, any name?
[16:51] <EriC^^> doesn't matter
[16:52] <arik1> EriC^^, done so
[16:52] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, press "write"
[16:52] <EriC^^> then type yes to confirm
[16:52] <EriC^^> then exit
[16:52] <arik1> exited
[16:52] <EriC^^> then type sudo partprobe , and type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 again
[16:52] <tush> I set up a samba share on my desktop running ubuntu 14.4. I used the samba config tool set up my share folder. (using RAID5 sharing /mnt/rdisk/tush) I have a home network with a router and three computers.I can access the share from laptop running Windows10 and I can read files, but I cannot write (creat folder)to the share.
[16:53] <tush> anyone free to help me regarding samba share???
[16:53] <tush> my samba config file here http://pastebin.com/Hz2EFCNZ
[16:53] <arik1> termbin.com/kewl
[16:53] <arik1> rare name lol
[16:53] <EriC^^> lol
[16:54] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, looks great
[16:55] <EriC^^> arik1: now to prepare a chroot
[16:55] <EriC^^> arik1: type " for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done "
[16:56] <arik1> EriC^^, okay so output so it mustve worked
[16:57] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[16:57] <arik1> EriC^^,alright
[16:57] <EriC^^> arik1: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub2
[16:58] <EriC^^> it should mention removing grub-efi-amd64 or so i think
[16:58] <arik1> EriC^^, i see it but host ubuntu wasnt resolved
[16:58] <EriC^^> np, remove the sudo
[16:58] <arik1> EriC^^, im guessing it can be ignored
[16:58] <EriC^^> my bad
[16:58] <arik1> EriC^^, ye
[16:58] <arik1> EriC^^, alright im in configuring
[16:59] <EriC^^> did it mention found vmlinuz ...
[16:59] <EriC^^> and windows?
[17:00] <arik1> EriC^^, it's asking me to select the devices i want automatically  run for
[17:00] <EriC^^> that's a first
[17:01] <EriC^^> it shows you the 2 hdd?
[17:01] <arik1> EriC^^, yes and my usbs
[17:01] <EriC^^> hmm, select the ubuntu hdd
[17:01] <arik1> EriC^^, sda and sdb
[17:01] <EriC^^> choose sdb
[17:02] <arik1> EriC^^, uh do i press enter on it or
[17:02] <EriC^^> i think?
[17:02] <EriC^^> never seen that before to be honest
[17:02] <arik1> when i do it says you chose not to install grub to any devices
[17:02] <arik1> EriC^^, i feel like it's not selected
[17:02] <EriC^^> me too
[17:03] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub2 again
[17:03] <arik1> EriC^^, alright it settings up then stopps
[17:04] <EriC^^> ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb
[17:04] <baizon> !dpkg-reconfigure
[17:04] <arik1> cannot find efi directory
[17:05] <craptalk> i have dual boot, but i always using ubuntu lately, it was working well last time i booted windows 7, but not today, it was pitch black and stuck, does sudo update-grub fix this issue?
[17:05] <Braybaut> arik1, the secureboot is enabled or disabled ?
[17:05]  * EriC^^ opens grub manpage
[17:05] <EriC^^> arik1: we might have to pass it some arguments to install in legacy mode
[17:05] <arik1> Braybaut, uhh no idea, anyway i can check
[17:05] <arik1> EriC^^, sure thing
[17:06] <datumhoard> nacc: 14.04 server with desktop current version of python is 2.7.6 trying to upgrade to 2.7.11
[17:06] <Braybaut> arik1, you can check in bios!!!
[17:06] <Pici> datumhoard: What do you need in 2.7.11?
[17:06] <nacc> datumhoard: 14.04 latest is at 2.7.5-5ubuntu3, no? anything else is unsupported
[17:06] <datumhoard> well i need 2.7.8 or better for sickgear to work
[17:07] <craptalk> can you help me out?
[17:07] <tush> I set up a samba share on my desktop running ubuntu 14.4. I used the samba config tool set up my share folder. (using RAID5 sharing /mnt/rdisk/tush) I have a home network with a router and three computers.I can access the share from laptop running Windows10 and I can read files, but I cannot write (creat folder)to the share.
[17:07] <tush> my samba config file here http://pastebin.com/Hz2EFCNZ
[17:07] <Andromeda1234> Question...how would one go about making a network that was manageable like an Active Directory realm but for unix machines?
[17:07] <nacc> Andromeda1234: LDAP?
[17:08] <datumhoard> dunno how to screenshot (JUST installed ubuntu on NAS) and setting thing up to replace my mac mini, this is the output from SickGear ...
[17:08] <datumhoard>  SickGear will be dropping support for Python 2.7.8 and below. We recommend updating to latest version: Download here
[17:08] <Pici> datumhoard: As their documents suggest, you can use the deadsnakes PPA: https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/ubuntu/deadsnakes-python2.7/+packages
[17:08] <Andromeda1234> Nacc is that reliable?
[17:08] <Pici> datumhoard: but as with all PPAs, you are on your own for support.
[17:08] <tylermoseley> more than AD
[17:08] <Pici> datumhoard: (personally, I use the deadsnakes PPA, but your mileage may vary)
[17:09] <nacc> Andromeda1234: --^ :)
[17:09] <nacc> datumhoard:  both are unsupported here, sorry
[17:09] <nacc> Andromeda1234: LDAP is heavily used, yes
[17:09] <shdsfdsh> When Ubuntu encrypts /~ at installation, does it also encrypt swap and /tmp?
[17:09] <datumhoard> how do i install? semi comfortable with terminal
[17:10] <shdsfdsh> When Ubuntu encrypts just the home directory at installation, does it also encrypt swap?
[17:10] <Andromeda1234> Nacc so...if I can ask a really stupid question...how easy is it to set up? How do you connect clients to it, as I persume Linux doesnt have some out of the box thing for it that I have not stumbled upon.
[17:10] <Pici> datumhoard: https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/ubuntu/deadsnakes-python2.7 has a link, click on the "read about installing" thinger.
[17:11] <Andromeda1234> shdsfdsh can you encrypt the swap?
[17:11] <SpakkaByTe> hi all guys i have problem with ubuntu 15.10 search program on computer can't find some program anyone can help me please??? sorry for my english
[17:11] <Azums> hi pici
[17:11] <Azums> :) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon. S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)㋛Ubuntu utilizes spyware - Canonical and Shuttleworth are bullies.... the amazon search lens w
[17:11] <Azums> as OPT IN
[17:11] <Azums> ,:) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon. S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)㋛Ubuntu utilizes spyware - Canonical and Shuttleworth are bullies.... the amazon search lens
[17:11] <Azums> was OPT IN
[17:11] <Azums> _:) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon. S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)㋛Ubuntu utilizes spyware - Canonical and Shuttleworth are bullies.... the amazon search lens
[17:11] <datumhoard> Pici: thanks!
[17:11] <shdsfdsh> Andromeda1234: I can, but I'm asking if Ubuntu's installer does it automatically
[17:11] <nacc> Andromeda1234: look at slapd, iirc
[17:11] <arik1> EriC^^, sorry was there something i should be doing?
[17:12] <Andromeda1234> Nacc thanks :)
[17:12] <SpakkaByTe> andromeda talk to me?
[17:13] <EriC^^> arik1: hmm, couldn't find much in the grub manpage or google about it
[17:13] <nacc> shdsfdsh: your question seems odd to me ... If you told the installer to only encrypt the home directory, why woudl it encrypt swap?
[17:13] <EriC^^> arik1: try grub-install --target=x86_64 --recheck /dev/sdb
[17:13] <arik1> EriC^^, with boot repair it says
[17:13] <shdsfdsh> nacc: Isn't the encryption insecure if swap is not also encrypted?
[17:13] <shdsfdsh> nacc: That's what I have read about ecryptfs
[17:13] <arik1> EriC^^, it detectes efi
[17:14] <EriC^^> the problem is that we're booted in uefi mode and i think that's confusing grub and trying to install in efi
[17:14] <shdsfdsh> nacc: You need to encrypt swap too, because a lot of files from the home directory also get stored in swap
[17:14] <arik1> EriC^^, alright ill try that
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> shdsfdsh  is that a server?
[17:14] <arik1> EriC^^, in root?
[17:14] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah
[17:14] <shdsfdsh> nacc: So does Ubuntu encrypt swap automatically, or does it ignore the vulnerability?
[17:14] <nacc> shdsfdsh: well, it looks like upon cursory reading of the wiki, it does that by default
[17:14] <shdsfdsh> MonkeyDust: No I mean on a personal desktop PC
[17:14] <riqdiiz> Hi all people.
[17:14] <EriC^^> arik1: try dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> shdsfdsh  then what are you afraid of?
[17:14] <shdsfdsh> nacc: Can you link the relevant part of the wiki to me pls?
[17:14] <EriC^^> arik1: to see if there are any grub-efi stuff left
[17:14] <nacc> shdsfdsh: but i've not used anything other than whole disk encryption in some time
[17:15] <shdsfdsh> MonkeyDust: Curiosity mostly
[17:15] <arik1> EriC^^, modinfo.sh doesnte exist
[17:15] <nacc> shdsfdsh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome ... dated, admittedly
[17:15] <arik1> EriC^^, and sure
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> fair enough, like me and my squid proxy i don't need
[17:15] <arik1> EriC^^, termbin.com/h2at
[17:15] <shdsfdsh> nacc: "Users installing from Ubuntu 9.10 and selecting the Encrypted Home option will automatically have encrypted swap space" guess that answers my question, thanks!
[17:16] <shdsfdsh> nacc: Can Ubuntu resume from sleep/hibernate with home encryption?
[17:16] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, try apt-get purge grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64
[17:16] <nacc> shdsfdsh: i'd confirm it in a VM or something if you're really curious
[17:16] <shdsfdsh> nacc: Sure, thanks!
[17:17] <arik1> EriC^^, done
[17:17] <shdsfdsh> "You may be able to avoid these problems by running without a swapfile" isn't it bad to run without swap, even with 16GB or RAM?
[17:17] <k1l> shdsfdsh: you can run without swap
[17:17] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, type "updatedb"
[17:17] <shdsfdsh> k1l: But I heard it's bad to do that
[17:18] <EriC^^> arik1: then "locate modinfo.sh"
[17:18] <k1l> shdsfdsh: then you heard wrong things
[17:18] <k1l> shdsfdsh: you cant use hibternation without swap.
[17:18] <mesi> hi!  (:
[17:18] <nacc> shdsfdsh: i'm not sure about hibernation w/ encrypted swap, sorry
[17:19] <nacc> shdsfdsh: it all depends on your system & usage
[17:19] <shdsfdsh> nacc: Gaming
[17:19] <arik1> EriC^^, uhh updatedb IS taking a bit of time , that normal?
[17:19] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah
[17:19] <nacc> shdsfdsh: as to whether you need swap or not; a good metric is to see if you are using swap as-is :)
[17:19] <Andromeda1234> So does LDAP and slapd have something similar to group policy? Can you join Windows NT machines to a realm?
[17:19] <nacc> Andromeda1234: realm is an AD term, afaik :)
[17:20] <Andromeda1234> nacc or the equivalent
[17:20] <nacc> Andromeda1234: LDAP is a protocol, slapd is an implementation of it in a server. And yes, there are lots of policies, afaik
[17:20] <nacc> Andromeda1234: but offtopic for here, at this point, you should find an LDAP channel, I'd think
[17:20] <mikrotik> nick wahyu
[17:20] <Andromeda1234> nacc ahh ok! Sorry about that. I was just being curious.
[17:21] <EriC^^> arik1: still running?
[17:21] <nacc> Andromeda1234: np, i just meant that it's not really ontopic for an ubuntu support channel :) I think you can easily find your answers with google, now that you know what to search for
[17:22] <nacc> Andromeda1234: also, fyi: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openldap-server.html
[17:22] <nacc> Andromeda1234: also, I belive, AD can talk LDAP
[17:22] <arik1> EriC^^, yes
[17:23] <Andromeda1234> Nacc awesome!
[17:23] <EriC^^> arik1: odd
[17:23] <EriC^^> arik1: try ctrl+c
[17:23] <arik1> EriC^^, doe
[17:23] <arik1> done
[17:23] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, try locate modinfo.sh
[17:23] <arik1> EriC^^, like ctrl+c i mean
[17:23] <arik1> locate regardless?
[17:24] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:24] <EriC^^> it might show up
[17:24] <arik1> EriC^^, found
[17:24] <EriC^^> ok what path?
[17:24] <arik1>  /boot/grub/x86_64-efi/modinfo.sh
[17:25] <EriC^^> arik1: damn
[17:25] <EriC^^> why does it still have the efi dir
[17:26] <arik1> EriC^^, :(
[17:27] <Paisley> hi all
[17:27] <EriC^^> try grub-install --target=x86_64 -d /boot/grub/x86_64-efi --boot-directory=/boot --recheck /dev/sdb
[17:28] <EriC^^> arik1: we can try using the live usb's grub menu to boot into the install normally and then reinstall grub from there if it doesn't work
[17:28] <Paisley> http://askubuntu.com/questions/746376/cant-get-new-software-on-ubuntu-software-centre  I have a slight problem any ideas on how to dix it?
[17:28] <Paisley> *fix
[17:28] <arik1> EriC^^, cannot find efi directory
[17:29] <EriC^^> ok, it keeps trying to install in uefi
[17:29] <EriC^^> i think this doesn't work but try it, 1 sec
[17:29] <EriC^^> try grub-install --target=x86_64 -d /boot/grub/x86_64-efi --boot-directory=/boot --recheck --no-uefi-secure-boot /dev/sdb
[17:30] <arik1> EriC^^, ye still cant find efi directory
[17:31] <xxx_> ciao
[17:35] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, np
[17:36] <tush> I set up a samba share on my desktop running ubuntu 14.4. I used the samba config tool set up my share folder. (using RAID5 sharing /mnt/rdisk/tush) I have a home network with a router and three computers.I can access the share from laptop running Windows10 and I can read files, but I cannot write (creat folder)to the share.
[17:36] <EriC^^> arik1: give "modprobe -r efivars" a shot
[17:36] <arik1> EriC^^, sorry for this taking so long, i really friken appreciate you sticking with me
[17:36] <EriC^^> no problem
[17:36] <arik1> EriC^^, "Fatal: module efivars is builtin"
[17:36] <jedi___>  /SET autocreate_own_query OFF
[17:36] <jedi___>  /SET autocreate_query_level DCCMSGS
[17:36] <jedi___>  /SET use_status_window OFF
[17:38] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, type exit
[17:38] <arik1> EriC^^, alright
[17:38] <EriC^^> arik1: then try rebooting in normal "usb"
[17:38] <EriC^^> but hold shift when it's booting and see if you can get a grub menu
[17:39] <arik1> EriC^^, wait do i need to do the tab and live thing
[17:39] <EriC^^> you might need to
[17:40] <EriC^^> btw i think the path error thing is due to some bootloader error for the usb that's caused by maybe using unetbootin to make it
[17:40] <EriC^^> how'd you make the usb?
[17:40] <arik1> EriC^^, ubuntu is loading up
[17:40] <arik1> EriC^^, uhh another live usb prog
[17:40] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[17:41] <EriC^^> if we can manage to quickly install grub that'd be awesome
[17:41] <EriC^^> arik1: rufus ?
[17:41] <EriC^^> arik1: a really great windows tool is linuxlive usb creator
[17:41] <arik1> EriC^^, universAL USB
[17:42] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, when the ubuntu usb loads, open a terminal
[17:42] <EriC^^> and paste the following
[17:42] <arik1> EriC^^, was a grub menu supposed to come up?
[17:42] <EriC^^> no
[17:42] <arik1> EriC^^, oh okay i was holding shift lol\
[17:42] <EriC^^> i mean it'd be better but it's ok
[17:42] <LuckyTux> I just tried to play agario and it's lagging, how to fix it?
[17:43] <arik1> EriC^^, yeah booting this way always takes really long
[17:43] <EriC^^> sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt && for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount-B $i /mnt$i; done && sudo chroot grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb
[17:43] <arik1> EriC^^, like it's black screen besides wfi networks available prompt and system  program problem detected
[17:43] <EriC^^> there's a typo
[17:44] <EriC^^> sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt && for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done && sudo chroot /mnt grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb
[17:44] <arik1> EriC^^, i dont know why it takes so long to load like this
[17:46] <arik1> EriC^^, if this takes longer, should i recreate the usb?
[17:47] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah
[17:47] <EriC^^> try linux live
[17:47] <riqdiiz> eric^^ some coffee
[17:47] <arik1> EriC^^, yeah this has too many errors ill use the tool you told me
[17:47] <arik1> EriC^^, and redownload
[17:48] <riqdiiz> its coming frm ext drv!
[17:48] <arik1> EriC^^, is it alright if i use kubuntu this time?
[17:50] <jack_> C2H5OH
[17:50] <kubuntu> Hi
[17:50] <jack_> Ethanol
[17:51] <Guest95215> I am trying to install kubuntu 14.04 lts. I have windows os already on one partition. I am getting this error and the whole harddisk is shown as unallocated space with not partitions: dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.  However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should.  Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT partition tables.  Or perhaps you deleted the
[17:51] <Guest95215>  GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table.  Is this a GPT partition table?
[17:51] <arik1> EriC^^, sorry just to verify so i can start the download...kubuntu is fine?
[17:53] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah
[17:53] <arik1> EriC^^, alright thanks
[17:53] <EriC^^> Guest95215: you need to try sudo fixparts on the disk
[17:53] <Sna4x8> I'm using winbind with active directory, and I have it mostly working.  When I log in, however, I always get an error: "groups: cannot find name for group ID 10012."  Anyone have any advice?
[17:54] <EriC^^> Guest95215: type sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:54] <Guest95215> erry, sudo fixparts /dev/sda  ?
[17:54] <EriC^^> yeah, try gdisk -l first so we can get a better look
[17:54] <EriC^^> at what's there
[17:55] <Guest95215> http://termbin.com/as4w
[17:55] <EriC^^> Guest95215: ok, press ctrl+c
[17:55] <EriC^^> then type sudo fixparts /dev/sda
[17:55] <Guest95215> ok
[17:56] <Guest95215> NOTICE: GPT signatures detected on the disk, but no 0xEE protective partition!
[17:56] <Guest95215> The GPT signatures are probably left over from a previous partition table.
[17:56] <Guest95215> Do you want to delete them (if you answer 'Y', this will happen
[17:56] <Guest95215> immediately)? (Y/N):
[17:56] <EriC^^> y
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Guest95215  next time, use a pastebin  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:57] <Guest95215> Warning: 0xEE partition doesn't start on sector 1. This can cause problems
[17:57] <Guest95215> in some OSes.
[17:57] <Guest95215> MBR command (? for help):
[17:57] <Guest95215> MonkeyDust,  ok
[17:57] <Guest95215> EriC^^,  what now?
[17:58] <compdoc> you can use gparted to create mbr/gpt, but when you chjange one to the other, it deletes the partitions
[17:58] <EriC^^> Guest95215: press w
[17:58] <Guest95215> Final checks complete. About to write MBR data. THIS WILL OVERWRITE EXISTING
[17:58] <Guest95215> PARTITIONS!!
[17:59] <compdoc> gparted will also create partitions that start on the right sectors, rather than trying to create them manually
[17:59] <Guest95215> compdoc,  EriC^^  but I have windows and I dont want to loose its partitions
[18:00] <compdoc> better be careful
[18:00] <EriC^^> Guest95215: yeah press ok
[18:00] <Guest95215> EriC^^, ?
[18:00] <EriC^^> Guest95215: fire away
[18:00] <Guest95215> EriC^^,  wont it delete partitions?
[18:01] <EriC^^> no, all it did was remove the gpt data that's confusing the installer
[18:02] <EriC^^> Guest95215: you might not need to press w after that since it said immediately i guess
[18:02] <Guest95215> EriC^^,  awesome
[18:02] <EriC^^> so just quit the program i guess and see if sees the partitions now
[18:02] <Guest95215> yes
[18:02] <Guest95215> works
[18:02] <Guest95215> thanks!!!!!!
[18:04] <EriC^^> Guest95215: no problem
[18:05] <arik1> EriC^^, ah this is actually a live usb isnt it, i think the setup i had before was an installation thing?
[18:05] <arik1> EriC^^, this one actually holds over right?
[18:06] <EriC^^> arik1: no it's the same thing
[18:06] <truerock> ... if there's a persistence file on the live-USB, perhaps.
[18:06] <arik1> EriC^^, oh weird, why does it need virtualbox ?
[18:06] <EriC^^> it has an option for persistence, don't choose it though
[18:06] <EriC^^> yeah or virtualbox, they're optional
[18:06] <arik1> EriC^^, oh rip it's installing with virtual box\
[18:07] <EriC^^> oh, that sucks
[18:07] <arik1> EriC^^, restart it?
[18:07] <EriC^^> try to cancel it and do it again
[18:07] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:08] <arik1> EriC^^, where do i disable vbox?
[18:08] <EriC^^> it's at the bottom i think
[18:09] <arik1> EriC^^, enable launching in linuxlive in windows?
[18:09] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:13] <ash_workz> is there a way to delete posts on paste.ubuntu.com? other than email rt@ubuntu.com?
[18:13] <ash_workz> emailing*
[18:13] <Pici> ash_workz: nope
[18:13] <ash_workz> drat
[18:14] <arik1> EriC^^, i assume boot to normal usb
[18:14] <Pici> ash_workz: which is part of the reason why I don't use it.  use a gist that you can control or a paste service that has expiration if you don't want to have to go through this sort of thing.
[18:14] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah
[18:14] <arik1> EriC^^, ayy no need to do the live stufff
[18:14] <ash_workz> Pici: yeah... :(
[18:14] <EriC^^> right
[18:15] <EriC^^> arik1: in the installer, choose /dev/sdb as the location to install the bootloader to
[18:15] <EriC^^> (choose Something else , then manually partition, it should be at the bottom)
[18:15] <arik1> EriC^^, oh wait i thought we were gonna try kubuntu?
[18:15] <arik1> EriC^^, are we actually installing?
[18:15] <EriC^^> arik1: oh, it's up to you, i thought you wanted to install kubuntu
[18:16] <arik1> EriC^^, yeah i guess ill switch back
[18:16] <EriC^^> oh, you meant "live" stuff as in the booting thing
[18:16] <arik1> EriC^^, would it not be safer to put the bootloader on my primary drive?
[18:16] <EriC^^> if you want boot it, we can fix the install, it's just a step away, and give it a shot and see if you like it and stuff you can always reinstall kubuntu, up to you
[18:17] <EriC^^> arik1: no it's better to have the bootloader on the ubuntu hdd so it's a standalone install
[18:17] <arik1> EriC^^, alright sorry so whats our first steps?
[18:17] <EriC^^> and have the boot order in the bios set to boot it first
[18:18] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, open a terminal and type sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[18:18] <arik1> EriC^^,  done
[18:18] <erry> wut
[18:18] <sfdebug> hi, does anyone knows where is there a documentation about the UBUNTU_MENUPROXY variable?
[18:19] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, type " for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done "
[18:20] <arik1> EriC^^,  done
[18:20] <jushur> sfdebug: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationMenu
[18:21] <ash_workz> I'm looking at the options for pastebinit... what's a permatag?
[18:21] <sfdebug> ash_workz, thanks...
[18:21] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[18:21] <EriC^^> arik1: then grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb
[18:21] <ash_workz> jushur: I assume that gratitude was for you
[18:22] <jushur> ash_workz: yes i do guess so to.
[18:22] <arik1> EriC^^, failed to run command /bin/bash
[18:22] <jushur> ash_workz: np
[18:22] <arik1> EriC^^, exec format error
[18:22] <EriC^^> arik1: does it say why?
[18:22] <EriC^^> oh
[18:22] <ash_workz> jushur: lol, I am the middle man now. :P
[18:22] <EriC^^> it's an arch mismatch
[18:22] <sfdebug> jushur, the variable just don't makes sense to me even reading this, the problem is that my SmartGit wasn't working and i had to do a "export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0" to it works, if i dont do that, when i try to open the SmartGit, it craches...
[18:23] <EriC^^> arik1: the kubuntu is 32bit i think
[18:23] <arik1> EriC^^, god dammit
[18:23] <arik1> EriC^^, yeah i think thats what the iso says..
[18:23] <EriC^^> arik1: type exit, then reboot
[18:23] <EriC^^> hold shift and see if grub shows up
[18:23] <EriC^^> we can try booting the install from kubuntu's grub
[18:24] <arik1> EriC^^, wait so just let the sys boot normally or from live usb
[18:25] <EriC^^> no, from the live usb
[18:25] <arik1> EriC^^, so  prss live mode correct?
[18:27] <jushur> sfdebug: well maybe someone else knows more, maybe ask trough the forums/bugreports etc. and id asume its going to take a while to get proper ansver.
[18:28] <sfdebug> jushur, yes, thanks...
[18:28] <LuckyTux> Hey, can someone help me out with GCC, I really need to get it working for school
[18:29] <arik1> EriC^^, one question, if I install kubuntu would it fix any of the problems im having?
[18:30] <EriC^^> arik1: no, hold shift to get grub before it boots
[18:30] <EriC^^> arik1: kubuntu is 32bit though
[18:30] <arik1> EriC^^, yeah if i used 64bit
[18:30] <nacc> LuckyTux: what do you mean? do you have an issue with the Ubuntu version of gcc?
[18:30] <arik1> EriC^^, and im holding shift but it just boots normally
[18:30] <EriC^^> well yeah as long as it boots in legacy mode
[18:30] <EriC^^> oh
[18:31] <EriC^^> i'd download another iso
[18:31] <arik1> EriC^^, for 64bit correct?
[18:31] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:31] <arik1> EriC^^, and installing normally would fix my unability to boot windows?
[18:32] <EriC^^> arik1: if the boot stuff on windows is correct yeah
[18:33] <arik1> EriC^^, alright ill try it :>
[18:34] <arik1> EriC^^, before i install kubuntu then should i do some bootrec commands on windows to make sure it's mgr is not corrupt?
[18:34] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:34] <EriC^^> try to get it booting by itself
[18:34] <arik1> EriC^^, it still should be unlesss anything we did corrupted it
[18:34] <EriC^^> set the bios to boot the windows hdd and try to get it booting
[18:34] <arik1> EriC^^, yeah i have no idea how to do this grub rescue always shows up
[18:34] <arik1> EriC^^, regardless what hdd i boot to
[18:35] <EriC^^> grub might be on both disks
[18:35] <EriC^^> try bootrec /fixmbr
[18:35] <EriC^^> or something similar i think
[18:35] <cassio> hello
[18:35] <EriC^^> boot /fixmbr maybe
[18:35] <arik1> EriC^^, ye i believe i did that when i was fixing windows mbr
[18:36] <arik1> EriC^^, how the hell did it end up on both disks
[18:36] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[18:36] <arik1> EriC^^, is there any way to remove it from my primary disk?
[18:37] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  It seems that I have installed kubuntu but now it has no grub options and I cant go to8 windows
[18:37] <LuckyTux> I removed gcc folder, how to get it back? :(
[18:37] <arik1> wat
[18:37] <EriC^^> LuckyTux: what do you mean?
[18:37] <arik1> why did you remove it lol
[18:37] <EriC^^> by removed it?
[18:37] <leandroboka> ouch!
[18:37] <LuckyTux> in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu i removed gcc folder
[18:37] <LuckyTux> tried reinstaling but it wont come back
[18:38] <EriC^^> kkubuntu: arik1 ?
[18:38] <nacc> LuckyTux: why would you do that?
[18:38] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  arikl whats that?
[18:38] <LuckyTux> nacc: i don't know :'(
[18:38] <EriC^^> kkubuntu: oh, thought you were arik1
[18:38] <arik1> sorry i was speaking to luckytux
[18:38] <gallo_mobile> hi I'm trying to set up my Ubuntu box as a NAS so I can vnc from my laptop and run as a media server... So far I've managed to get vnc working and am able to see/manipulate my Ubuntu screen.. but thats it
[18:38] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  I am guestxxx I had an MBR issue few minutes ago
[18:38] <gallo_mobile> can anyone help so that i can see the /mnt i have?
[18:39] <arik1> you could reinstall coreutils no?
[18:39] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  you solved by fixparts /dev/sda
[18:39] <EriC^^> LuckyTux: try to reinstall libgcc-x.x-dev
[18:40] <Bashing-om> !details | gallo_mobile
[18:40] <EriC^^> type apt-cache search libgcc
[18:40] <EriC^^> kkubuntu: oh, ok
[18:40] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  is there a way I can get through this?
[18:42] <gallo_mobile> currently i have a freshly installed ubuntu server with desktop 14.04, dconf editor to allow vnc from MacBook.
[18:43] <gallo_mobile> ideally ubuntu-box runs Plex server, sickgear and backups of files/apps as a NAS so i can access locally or remotely
[18:44] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  are you there?
[18:44] <gallo_mobile> all I've managed to install is dropbox, plexserver and sickgear. when I open a file browser in macbook i can see ubuntubox but can only screen share. i cannot see/copy/move/ files
[18:44] <ghostmag> Okay, I've got still the following problem: Using Chromium I am not able to find the Chromium Launcher
[18:45] <baizon> ghostmag: have you tried logging out and in again?
[18:45] <ghostmag> Using Chromium from the Ubuntu Software Center, Verion 48.0.2564.116
[18:45] <Bashing-om> gallo_mobile: I know nothing of setting up file sharing from a Mac . Others will have to take up my slack .
[18:45] <ghostmag> baizon: I tried do reinstall Chromium, but funnily I was still logged in after that. I'll give it a shot
[18:45] <sfdebug> does anyone know how can a 14.04 change the version to 15.04??
[18:45] <EriC^^> kkubuntu: yeah
[18:46] <EriC^^> kkubuntu: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:46] <gallo_mobile> well i'm looking to setup file sharing FROM ubuntu so my mac can see if that maks a difference
[18:46] <gallo_mobile> makes*
[18:46] <k1l> sfdebug: can you give more info?
[18:46] <baizon> sfdebug: you have to install 15.10 directly
[18:46] <sfdebug> my ubuntu was 14.04 but now i see that it is 15.04
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> sfdebug  if you don't mean an upgrade, explain what brings you here
[18:46] <baizon> sfdebug: 15.04 is eol so no packages for that
[18:46] <EriC^^> arik1: running the windows mbr command should overwrite grub
[18:46] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  http://termbin.com/pwln
[18:47] <arik1> EriC^^, weird because it never does
[18:47] <k1l> sfdebug: can you show "uname -a" "lsb_release -d"
[18:47] <danny_> hi
[18:47] <arik1> brb
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> sfdebug  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue   and where do you see it's 15.04
[18:49] <ghostmag> baizon: Good guess, but did not work. Any other suggestions?
[18:49] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  http://termbin.com/pwln
[18:50] <sfdebug> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 15.04.4 \n \l
[18:50] <baizon> ghostmag: your launcher for chromium is missing?
[18:50] <sfdebug> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[18:50] <ghostmag> baizon: Yes, the App Launcher
[18:50] <teward> sfdebug: 15.04 is End of Life
[18:50] <teward> !15.04 | sfdebug
[18:50] <sfdebug> MonkeyDust, copied wrong someway... that is: Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[18:51] <Bashing-om> gallo_mobile: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 for tutorial to set up the fstab file for NAS .
[18:51] <k1l> sfdebug: what is "uname -a"?
[18:51] <ghostmag> baizon: This little thing: http://cdn1.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2013/07/Chrome_launcher_menu.png
[18:51] <ghostmag> looks the same in Chromium, just in blue
[18:51] <ghostmag> In fact, no Chromium App is shown directly in Ubuntu
[18:52] <gallo_mobile> Bashing-om: thanks!
[18:52] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  if you are busy, I can wait
[18:52] <arik1> EriC^^, okay so i booted up my windows repair disk
[18:52] <LuckyTux> EriC^^: what libgcc to install and how? still haven't fixed my problem
[18:52] <arik1> EriC^^, and im going to input the following commands
[18:53] <exospecies> can one get lubuntu help here? lxde crashes very time
[18:53] <arik1> EriC^^, bootrec /fixmbr bootrec /fixboot bootrec /rebuildbcd
[18:53] <exospecies> every
[18:53] <arik1> EriC^^, anything else or anything i should chnage
[18:54] <Bashing-om> gallo_mobile: :) .. not done yet ( maybe) .. see where you are after reading the turorial and setting up your fstab ( make frequent backups ) .
[18:54] <sfdebug> k1l, let me see
[18:54] <rdlf1024> Hello there Ubuntu Team, any idea of an application that will show me which apps or services are using my bandwidth?
[18:54] <arik1> EriC^^, doing bcdedit /enum is completely normal
[18:55] <sfdebug> k1l, that's : Linux steve-desktop 3.13.0-79-generic #123-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 19 14:27:58 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:56] <arik1> EriC^^, it still goes to boot rescue
[18:57] <rdlf1024> Network Manager just won't do it.
[18:57] <EriC^^> kkubuntu: which windows do you have?
[18:57] <EriC^^> arik1: that's odd
[18:57] <EriC^^> are you sure the windows one is selected in the bios?
[18:57] <gallo_mobile> Bashing-om: oh my .... might be beyond my scope... gonna read up on it as much as possible before i pull the trigger
[18:57] <k1l> sfdebug: please run "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[18:57] <k1l>  | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:57] <kkubuntu> EriC^^, vw8
[18:57] <arik1> EriC^^, 100%
[18:57] <arik1> EriC^^, it's my WD disk 650 gb
[18:58] <EriC^^> kkubuntu: try sudo update-grub
[18:58] <kkubuntu> hm
[18:58] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  Found Windows 8 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[18:58] <kkubuntu> done
[18:58] <Bashing-om> gallo_mobile: Uh Hih .. the heart of "mounting"; take your time .. the effort has great return .
[18:59] <EriC^^> kkubuntu: ok, try rebooting
[18:59] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  looks like it will work but I will reboot.
[18:59] <arik1> EriC^^, so im guessing install kubuntu wont fix it?
[18:59] <kkubuntu> EriC^^,  thanks again
[18:59] <kkubuntu> !!
[18:59] <EriC^^> kkubuntu: no problem
[18:59] <EriC^^> arik1: it might
[18:59] <EriC^^> arik1: try removing the ubuntu hdd if it's very easy to remove
[19:00] <arik1> EriC^^, alright ill do that again
[19:00] <TJ-> arik1: EriC^^ is it possible there's a USB flash storage connected?
[19:00] <arik1> TJ-, yes both my live usb and another usb with the windows repair disk
[19:01] <sfdebug> k1l, http://termbin.com/ldc2
[19:01] <arik1> EriC^^, removing ubuntu hdd does nothing unforunately
[19:01] <TJ-> arik1: then I'd bet one of those is being booted first, and has a partial GRUB core install on it
[19:02] <arik1> TJ-, ive removed all usbs and ubuntu hd
[19:02] <ash_workz> is it dangerous to use gparted to resize your partitions?
[19:02] <arik1> TJ-, the only thing left to boot is my wd disk (windows) and efi shell
[19:02] <arik1> TJ-, still goes to grub rescue
[19:03] <EriC^^> arik1: hmm i recall you had 2 1mb partitions on the windows disk
[19:03] <EriC^^> ( looked like bios_boot ones )
[19:03] <EriC^^> maybe it's booting grub from there
[19:03] <arik1> EriC^^, i see
[19:03] <arik1> EriC^^, go into gparted then?
[19:03] <EriC^^> yeah delete them they're not needed anyways
[19:04] <arik1> EriC^^, ill check em out
[19:04] <EriC^^> i think there'd have to be something in the mbr to point to them though, so it still doesn't add up much
[19:04] <ash_workz> TJ-: I just re-went over our extensive talk on why I keep running out of /boot space and what is retained over old versions of linux kernels.
[19:05] <ash_workz> TJ-: thank goodness I have logs.
[19:05] <TJ-> arik1: EriC^^: could be EFI grub via a default boot order entry loading a /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi ?
[19:05] <TJ-> ash_workz: ha! logs are my saviour at times
[19:05] <EriC^^> TJ-: there's no efi partition on the disk though
[19:06] <ash_workz> TJ-: Indeed.
[19:06] <EriC^^> http://termbin.com/kewl parted -l paste
[19:06] <TJ-> EriC^^: that's good!
[19:06] <k1l> sfdebug: well, what did you do to that machine? installed 3rd party packages? .deb packages?
[19:06] <arik1> EriC^^, TJ- , alright so i opened kde partition manager
[19:07] <arik1> EriC^^, TJ- i see two 1 mb partitions on sda
[19:07] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, delete them
[19:07] <arik1> okay
[19:07] <arik1> EriC^^, well one i can tell is being used
[19:07] <arik1> EriC^^, 38kb used
[19:07] <arik1> EriC^^, ill delete em both
[19:08] <TJ-> arik1: when you get the GRUB "rescue >" prompt type "ls" to get a list of devices. The order they're displayed in will give a hint as to what order the PC's BIOS has set the boot ordering
[19:08] <arik1> EriC^^, deleted
[19:08] <arik1> TJ-, and alright i tried doing ls in that and i see hd0
[19:08] <arik1> TJ-, and a whole bbunch of other stuff
[19:08] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, try rebooting
[19:08] <skitoxe> Hello and good evening everyone!
[19:09] <TJ-> arik1: if it happens again try reporting exactly what you see; that info would be extremely useful
[19:09] <skitoxe> or day/night depending on where you are
[19:09] <arik1> TJ-, will do sorry
[19:10] <arik1> EriC^^, seems to boot to grub rescue
[19:10] <TJ-> arkus: also issue the command "set" to report the variables, especially look at "prefix" and "root" because they'll help narrow down where GRUB thinks it is
[19:10] <arik1> TJ-, the output of ls is
[19:10] <arik1> TJ-, (hd0) (hd0, msdos2), (hd0, msdos1), (hd1) (hd2) (hd2, msdos1) (hd3) (hd3, msdos1)
[19:11] <avalon_> oh! its obvious...
[19:11] <TJ-> arkus: so that tells you the 'first' disk (hd0) has MSDOS disk label and 2 partitions only
[19:12] <ash_workz> oh man... so I really have to jump on a liveOS to run gparted and resize the partitions.
[19:12] <ash_workz> for some reason I thought you could do that at boot or something
[19:12] <TJ-> arkus: now try "ls (hd0,msdos1)/" and see if you get a files list, and if so, if you can recognise which drive/partition they're on
[19:12] <TJ-> ash_workz: the joys of LVM mean you can resize on demand; hard partitioning, not so much.
[19:12] <arik1> EriC^^, unknown filesystem
[19:12] <arik1> whoops
[19:12] <arik1> TJ-, unknown filesystem
[19:13] <TJ-> arik1: ok, now try "ls (hd0,msdos2)/"
[19:13] <ash_workz> TJ-: LVM  = linux virtual machine?
[19:13] <TJ-> ash_workz: Logical Volume Management
[19:13] <arik1> TJ-, unknown file system
[19:13] <sfdebug> k1l, i installed a smartgit .deb package
[19:13] <TJ-> ash_workz: e.g. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[19:13] <ash_workz> TJ-: so "Resize on demand" means "alter according to leftover space" ?
[19:14] <ash_workz> TJ-: s/leftover/unpartitioned
[19:14] <TJ-> arik1: OK, so that means that GRUB's core (the bit of code running 'rescue') does not have the file-system driver for those partition file-systems, which suggests they may not be msdos (possibly NTFS)
[19:14] <arik1> TJ-, i see
[19:15] <TJ-> ash_workz: yeah, as in I usually leave 20% of disk space unallocated when using LVM, because a simple "lvextend -L +2G /dev/mapper/VG-LV && resizde2fs /dev/mapper/VG_LV" will do the job, even to the root file-system
[19:16] <TJ-> arik1: try the same approach with the other partitions on other drives, until you hopefully find one you can recognise
[19:16] <arik1> ls (hd1)/ ?
[19:16] <TJ-> arik1: no, partitions only e.g. "ls (hd1,msdos1)/ "
[19:17] <arik1> TJ-, from what i can tell they all do not  recognize
[19:17] <TJ-> arik1: OK, not being very helpful. what does "set" tell you the prefix=
[19:18] <arik1> TJ-, prefix=(hd0)/boot/grub
[19:18] <TJ-> arik1: Ahhh! well, that is broken!
[19:18] <ash_workz> is sr0 under lsblk "unpartitioned" space?
[19:18] <arik1> D:
[19:19] <TJ-> arik1: that drive reference should have a partition identifier, so that tells us - as an aside - that something broke when that copy of GRUB was installed
[19:19] <mt_> hello
[19:19] <ScottHorton> Can someone offer some help? Watching a video through chromium fullscreen on tty7 and it froze (no video, but audio still played). No mouse, no keyboard input works. How can I unfreeze it? Tried killing chromium process.
[19:19] <TJ-> ash_workz: sr == SCSI Removable - usually a DVD/CD/BR drive
[19:19] <ash_workz> grr
[19:19] <arik1> TJ-, that sounds frightening...
[19:19] <user_> Bashing-om: can you help me with the Steam problem? :) please
[19:20] <arik1> TJ-, oh wait!
[19:20] <arik1> TJ-, if this is any help
[19:20] <ScottHorton> user_: What do you have?
[19:20] <mt_> i want ask if some face this problem ( I have 2.5 HDD 2TB ) when i want copy files from this HDD to other the drive not found despair
[19:20] <arik1> TJ-, openSuse didnt properly install bootloader
[19:20] <arik1> TJ-, but then i fixed it using boot-repaor
[19:20] <arik1> TJ-, (installing ubuntu)
[19:20] <TJ-> arik1: that sounds like a good explanation of what you're seeing, then
[19:20] <arik1> TJ-, unfortunately it's not working again
[19:21] <arik1> TJ-, so is it savable D:
[19:21] <user_> ScottHorton: the thing is I play Steam´s games, specially Dota2. I regularly dont have any problem in regard of fps, but in Dota2 I have heavy fps lag when Im playing. I have a good connection, and yesterday I checked that my video drivers where correct etc., and its all fine. So Im a little desperate cause I dont know how to fix the problem :(
[19:21] <ash_workz> TJ-: is there a way to tell if there is any space that is unallocated to a partition?
[19:22] <k1l> sfdebug: your sources.list is fine. so in case you didnt change that right now there must have been something different
[19:22] <TJ-> arik1: I'm wondering if you've got the drive with the GPT disk label (ST340014AS) also having a hybrid/protective MBR disk label, and GRUB core.img only has the msdos partitioning code built-in, meaning you can't see the correct partitions
[19:22] <mt_> Drone` : i want ask if some face this problem ( I have 2.5 HDD 2TB ) when i want copy files from this HDD to other the drive not found despair
[19:22] <TJ-> ash_workz: you'd have to calculate the number of sectors used by the partition, and compare against what the file-system tools report using
[19:23] <arik1> TJ-, that would be my linux drive
[19:23] <ash_workz> super
[19:23] <sfdebug> k1l, sorry, that was my output... the correct (that is a friend of mine) is: http://termbin.com/niut
[19:23] <arik1>  brb\
[19:23] <GivenToCode> hi all, installing ubuntu for the first time. i only have a 128GB SSD, is encryption overhead too much? I'd like to try it out...
[19:23] <user_> ScottHorton: when I say specially Dota2, I mean that for example when I play youtube video in HD or any other type of video I dont have any problem with fps. The fps lag only happens when I play Dota2
[19:24] <ash_workz> TJ-: what about `parted` ?
[19:24] <TJ-> arik1: the parted output shows the ST340014AS has  GPT with an EFI-SP *and* a BIOS-boot partition. If that also has a hybrid/protective MBR, that could explain the problems when it boots in legacy BIOS/msdos mode
[19:24] <paultier> waiting...
[19:25] <TJ-> ash_workz: it can tell you the partition size: "parted /dev/sdX unit s print"
[19:25] <k1l> sfdebug: that friend did change the repo to 15.04 himself
[19:25] <k1l> look at the "phploc" part
[19:25] <Bashing-om> user_: Steam. all I can do is try, as repeatedly advised, I have no experience with steam .
[19:26] <TJ-> arik1: if you have access to a useful EFI Shell on the system, I'd suggest booting into that and using it to try to manually bootstrap an EFI boot (if grub-efi is installed)
[19:26] <user_> Bashing-om: what do you mean with try? Where should I get the official repos for Steam? Form Ubuntu Softwaree Center?, cause I searched for it and it says there is no package called steamed
[19:26] <user_> Bashing-om: *Steam
[19:26] <ash_workz> TJ-: what information is "Free space"  or "" under "File system" when you run `parted` and then `print free` ?
[19:27] <arik1> arik1, i do yes, its from my bios\
[19:28] <arik1> TJ-, booted
[19:28] <TJ-> ash_workz: I use the 'size' column from the output of the command I suggested; the values are in sectors (that's what the 's' suffix means)
[19:28] <arik1> wow i tagged myself lol
[19:28] <mia_> hi all
[19:28] <mia_> is it possible to use ubuntu on raspberrypi
[19:29] <k1l> mia_: raspberry pi 1: no.
[19:29] <TJ-> arik1: You should be able to use 'help' to check what commands the EFI shell provides. Try "devices" and "dir /" to begin with to get a feel for it. I have to leave now but I recommend working from that EFI shell - it is very powerful if it is the fulle TainoCore EDK v2 shell
[19:29] <lapyo> why wouldn't it be possible
[19:30] <k1l> mia_: rpi 2 and 3: yes
[19:30] <TJ-> lapyo: raspi 1 used an older ARM architecture that the Ubuntu ARM builds don't support
[19:30] <lapyo> ah, ofc
[19:30] <arik1> TJ-, thats too bad, im not necessarily sure imm comfortable with shell yet
[19:30] <k1l> lapyo: the ARM SoC is way to old on the rpi 1. ubuntu doesnt support that old one
[19:31] <lapyo> how about rpi 2
[19:31] <TJ-> arik1: maybe someone else can step in at this point. You can't do any damage by looking around at the drives/partitions from the EFI shell though
[19:31] <k1l> lapyo: see my answer
[19:31] <lapyo> yeah, ofc
[19:31] <ash_workz> TJ-: I think I don't get it, you're supposed to replace sdX with the partition you want to check right? But wont that just give you information on individual partitions? Don't you need to know the size of space not in a partition to see if you can resize one using LVM?
[19:32] <pomuaz> I got this error on boot "attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'
[19:32] <arik1> TJ-, yeah thanks for everything
[19:32] <pomuaz> how do I deal with it?
[19:32] <pomuaz> also later I got an error that the temperature was above thershold
[19:32] <pomuaz> threshold
[19:32] <coredump> can someone tell me if ubuntu servers can update from 12.04 to 16.04 or only 1 version "jump" at a time?
[19:33] <EriC^^> arik1: try installing kubuntu and see if it can boot windows
[19:33] <k1l> coredump: you can go 12.04 to 14.04. then 14.04 to 16.04 (when 16.04.1 is released )
[19:33] <EriC^^> arik1: you can always tackle it later to get windows to be standalone
[19:33] <arik1> EriC^^, alright will do
[19:33] <arik1> EriC^^, do i install in uefi usb or nornmal usb
[19:33] <pomuaz> I got this error on boot "attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'; I rebooted and then I got an error that the temperature was above threshold
[19:33] <EriC^^> normal usb
[19:33] <arik1> EriC^^, does it even matter
[19:33] <coredump> k1l  so no 12.04 -> 16.04
[19:34] <arik1> EriC^^, alright
[19:34] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah, it has to be normal usb cause windows is in legacy mode
[19:34] <k1l> coredump: no. you need to step to 14.04
[19:34] <coredump> damn
[19:34] <pomuaz> can anyone help?
[19:34] <coredump> thanks k1l
[19:35] <arik1> EriC^^, what are the limitations of legacy mode anyways?
[19:35] <arik1> EriC^^, im not even sure why it is that way
[19:35] <andyfied> if your HDD is getting too hawt, i'd recommend getting a new one
[19:36] <arik1> EriC^^, alright so thankfully kubuntu still detects windows10
[19:36] <EriC^^> arik1: it's just a little slower to boot, and efi lets you have more than 1 bootloader present at a time
[19:37] <arik1> EriC^^, ill install to my 2nd hdd as usual?
[19:37] <EriC^^> yeah, choose the Something else option and manually partition the 2nd hdd
[19:38] <arik1> EriC^^, something else option?
[19:38] <EriC^^> at the bottom choose /dev/sdb as the bootloader location
[19:38] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah, where it says Erase windows and install ubuntu, encryption lvm, something else
[19:38] <arik1> EriC^^, I see guided use entire disk, guided use entire disk and setup LVM, guided use entire disk and setup encrupted LVM
[19:38] <arik1> EriC^^, and manual
[19:38] <EriC^^> ok, choose manual
[19:38] <EriC^^> guess it's a kubuntu thing
[19:38] <arik1> EriC^^, alright done so
[19:39] <arik1> EriC^^, i see biosgrub on /dev/sdb4
[19:39] <EriC^^> ok, keep that
[19:39] <ash_workz> TJ-: so you can't use LVM to reduce the size of 1 partition and increase the size of another?
[19:39] <EriC^^> or just do a clean one over
[19:39] <EriC^^> arik1: remove everything from the 2nd hdd
[19:40] <arik1> EriC^^, so i selected /dev/sdb
[19:40] <arik1> EriC^^, where is the bootloader?
[19:40] <arik1> EriC^^, also sdb?
[19:40] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:41] <EriC^^> make 1mb bios_boot partition, and the "/" partition and swap
[19:41] <arik1> EriC^^, no root file system is defined
[19:41] <EriC^^> how much ram does the pc have?
[19:41] <arik1> EriC^^, 8gb
[19:41] <EriC^^> arik1: did you delete everything?
[19:42] <arik1> EriC^^, uh it wont let me click the checkmark format beside /dev/sdb
[19:42] <EriC^^> only delete the partitions
[19:43] <EriC^^> choose them and press the "-" sign at the bottom
[19:43] <arik1> EriC^^, incl biosgrub?
[19:43] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:43] <arik1> EriC^^, so now i create a new partition ?
[19:44] <EriC^^> yeah create a 1mb bios_boot first
[19:44] <arik1> EriC^^, reserved bios boot area?
[19:44] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:44] <arik1> EriC^^, any mount point?
[19:44] <EriC^^> nope
[19:45] <arik1> EriC^^, that creates two 1 mb partitions
[19:45] <arik1> EriC^^, is that normal
[19:45] <EriC^^> no
[19:45] <arik1> EriC^^, delete the non biosgrub one then?
[19:45] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:45] <EriC^^> maybe it wants it to be 2mb?
[19:46] <arik1> EriC^^, it's seperate though, also it wont let me delete
[19:46] <EriC^^> ok try deleting both
[19:46] <EriC^^> and make a single 2mb one
[19:46] <m82labs> If I add some new dns-search domains to my interfacesw file, how do I then update resolv,conf? ifdown then ifup?
[19:46] <arik1> EriC^^, deleting the bios reserved ended up deleting both
[19:47] <arik1> EriC^^, i did 2 mb and it created 2 one mb partitions again
[19:47] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, np
[19:47] <EriC^^> how much more free space do you have?
[19:47] <arik1> EriC^^, 399997mb
[19:47] <arik1> EriC^^, so 40gb
[19:47] <arik1> EriC^^, almost
[19:47] <arik1> EriC^^, on this disk atleast
[19:48] <EriC^^> ok, create a 31.5gb "/"
[19:48] <Merkabah> Ok so are there any reason at all for the constant update packages for Ubuntu? I try to use this for hosting servers and I keeps updating crap! This is supposed to be something better then Microsoft!
[19:48] <EriC^^> arik1: 31.5gb ext4 with mountpoint "/"
[19:48] <arik1> EriC^^, when yo say "/" you mean mountpoint yes?
[19:48] <arik1> EriC^^, ah
[19:48] <EriC^^> and 8.5gb swap
[19:48] <compdoc> Merkabah, you can turn off auto-updates, and even checking for updates, but you'll need to update manually every once in a while
[19:49] <Merkabah> Whys is there even an update system in Ubuntu? This makes no sense..
[19:49] <Merkabah> Why is*
[19:49] <Merkabah> It used to be install use and done..
[19:49] <Merkabah> I really hate updates..
[19:49] <arik1> EriC^^, did so
[19:50] <compdoc> Merkabah, all operating systems have updates
[19:50] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, press install
[19:50] <EriC^^> did you set
[19:50] <EriC^^> the bootloader at /dev/sdb?
[19:50] <arik1> EriC^^, yes
[19:50] <pomuaz> I had a lot of issues rebooting, can anyone please help me?
[19:50] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[19:50] <Merkabah> They don't have to have that.. That a poison from the developers..
[19:50] <Merkabah> You can make something that works all the time without updates..
[19:51] <Merkabah> And then just release new versions of the OS every year or so
[19:51] <Merkabah> Thats how it used to be..
[19:51] <pomuaz> I had a lot of issues rebooting, can anyone please help me?
[19:51] <Rave1> Merkabah,  so shut off the updates and run obsolete software
[19:51] <jsmaniac> wowwwww
[19:52] <Merkabah> Whats with them updates anyway they don't fix anything?
[19:52] <Merkabah> Add more crap
[19:52] <EriC^^> gentlemen, we are under trollage
[19:52] <arik1> EriC^^, heres to hope
[19:52] <Merkabah> It makes me sad though..
[19:52] <pomuaz> how do you diganose booting issues?
[19:52] <EriC^^> arik1: :D
[19:52] <pomuaz> diagnose
[19:53] <jsmaniac>  /quit
[19:53] <EriC^^> pomuaz: what's the problem?
[19:53] <pomuaz> it wouldnt boot a few times, and gave me a bunch of errors
[19:53] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: Maybe I can help .. what is the issue ? We talking a UEFI based system ?
[19:53] <arik1> EriC^^, so just to make sure, this makes me super dependable on my 2nd hd no?
[19:53] <tush> how to reset SAMBA user password???
[19:53] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, I'm not sure
[19:53] <arik1> EriC^^, if i were to remove it, id be screwed?
[19:54] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah
[19:54] <k1l> Merkabah: ubuntu only ships security and big bugfixing updates.
[19:54] <EriC^^> arik1: pretty much, yeah
[19:54] <pomuaz> and its refusing to launch some stuff
[19:55] <arik1> EriC^^, also theres no way to switch off legacy without reinstalling windows?
[19:55] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah
[19:55] <arik1> not really sure why it was legacy in the first place :/
[19:55] <pomuaz> how do you diagnose booting issues? my system refused to boot a few times and gave me some writing and reading errors
[19:55] <pomuaz> then it rebooted into terminal before booting properly
[19:56] <EriC^^> pomuaz: it was working properly?
[19:56] <pomuaz> EriC^^, having some issues launching apps from the launcher for some reason
[19:56] <Merkabah> So security updates are supposed to fix holes and stuff? It never was an issue before now was it?
[19:57] <pomuaz> EriC^^, cant launch chrome or kodi from the launcher for some reason
[19:57] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: Likely the system detected a file system error, and protected itself from further damage . Did the system run a file system check ? Have you ran the file system check ( from a liveDVD(USB) so the file system is not in use )
[19:58] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, I'm not sure, aet least not knowingly
[19:58] <pomuaz> though I think it updates some things and required a reboot and then I delayed it, forgot about it and possibly hard booted to another OS
[19:59] <arik1> fingers crosseddd
[19:59] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: Let's do the prudent thing and run that file system check . Got a live disk of what the installed operating system is ?
[19:59] <arik1> EriC^^, rip
[19:59] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, I dont
[19:59] <arik1> EriC^^, it still goes to grub rescue unfortunately
[19:59] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: UH Huh // that ^^ could sure cause an inconsistent file system .
[19:59] <EriC^^> arik1: set the ubuntu hdd as first boot device
[20:00] <EriC^^> if you haven't yet
[20:00] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, the hard booting into another OS?
[20:00] <k1l> Merkabah: ok, please use your own blog for that ranting. this channel is for technical support
[20:00] <arik1> EriC^^, oh wow yeah i see everything
[20:00] <arik1> EriC^^, whoops
[20:00] <arik1> EriC^^, okay so then ill set that as highest priority hype
[20:01] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:01] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: At this point with the info pprovided of a bad shut down, need to run that file syste, check/repair . Make up a liveDVD of the installed operating system and we run that repair.
[20:01] <EriC^^> you should get grub if things went well, with windows there
[20:01] <arik1> EriC^^, so wow that looks like thats it
[20:01] <arik1> EriC^^, anyway to switch the order around in bootloader?
[20:01] <pomuaz> I dont have a dvd here
[20:01] <EriC^^> is windows there?
[20:01] <pomuaz> I'll need to get one in a few days
[20:01] <arik1> EriC^^, yes!
[20:02] <EriC^^> arik1: it's booting fine?
[20:02] <arik1> EriC^^, i started typing so it loaded up kubuntu
[20:02] <arik1> EriC^^, ill try in a sec
[20:02] <pomuaz> can anyone tell me why I can't seem to launch chrome or kodi from the launchbar?
[20:02] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: A spare USB drive around ?
[20:02] <a40ntistos> Hello everyone :) I want your opinion please, It is wisw to buy an Dell out of the box with Ubuntu? Like Inspiron 3543?
[20:02] <EriC^^> ok
[20:02] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, nope :(
[20:02] <Merkabah> Well it's just extremely annoying.. Linux is supposed to be better then Windows and hosting servers when the updates steal connection and restarts computer is not what I want when hosting TeamSpeak and game servers.. It's very annoying reminds me of Java after Oracle bought it.. 1 Update every other day!
[20:02] <Merkabah> But I'll stop now it's good..
[20:03] <pomuaz> Could not init logging classes. Permission errors on ~/.kodi (/root/.kodi/temp/)
[20:03] <pomuaz> ERROR: Unable to create application. Exiting
[20:03] <pomuaz> whats that
[20:03] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: As I see it .. establishing that the file system is in a consistent state is foundational .
[20:03] <phenomenon> A laptop with a headphone plug with microphone, does it need any special drivers or something?
[20:03] <arik1> EriC^^, so im switching stuff around in my bios
[20:03] <arik1> EriC^^, and i do not see my 2nd hdd
[20:03] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: Corruption at some level .
[20:03] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, :\
[20:03] <arik1> EriC^^, i see my first and then USB harddisk
[20:04] <phenomenon> so you can use a headset from a phone and use skype with it
[20:04] <EriC^^> arik1: odd
[20:04] <EriC^^> maybe cause it's using gpt?
[20:05] <pomuaz> so what can I do ?
[20:05] <pomuaz> if I dont have a livedvd or usb
[20:05] <arik1> EriC^^, so then we cant give it prority ?
[20:05] <arik1> EriC^^, or is USB hard disk it?
[20:05] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah that might be it
[20:05] <ydna> hi i need help setting up grub. my boot partition is /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb2 is an encrypted lvm
[20:05] <ydna> inside this lvm is /home, /, etc
[20:06] <ydna> i'm not sure how to setup grub and cryptab
[20:06] <ydna> i've done it prior but i forgot completely
[20:06] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, anything I can do with it?
[20:06] <arik1> EriC^^, erm yeah it still boots rescue so im not sure how to give it priority
[20:07] <arik1> EriC^^, let me get windows startd thoug
[20:07] <arik1> EriC^^, windows looks to be booting
[20:07] <EriC^^> arik1: nice
[20:08] <TJ-> ynda: /etc/crypttab: something like: "LUKS_OS   UUID=f7175e39-2594-4cb9-b842-de2e1c208f61 none luks,discard" (for an SSD needing discard/TRIM support), then "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" in /etc/default/grub
[20:08] <EriC^^> try to bootrec /fixmbr
[20:08] <arik1> my filess yay
[20:08] <arik1> and alright
[20:08] <EriC^^> TJ-: isn't that if /boot is part of the encrypted install?
[20:09] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: We can take a poke at the system .. see if the package manager is still in a happy state : ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' anyh errors we need to see all and in context .
[20:09] <TJ-> ydna: then you do "update-initramfs -u", "grub-install" and "update-grub"
[20:09] <ydna> ok TJ- i'll set up chroot one sec
[20:09] <TJ-> EriC^^: ahhh, good point. I'm so used to it.
[20:10] <TJ-> ydna: if the /boot/ partition isn't encrypted you don't need GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y
[20:10] <ydna> Eric^^ what is the for loop to mount what i need binded (from yesterday)
[20:10] <EriC^^> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[20:10] <ydna> thanks
[20:10] <TJ-> ydna: generating the initrd.img will cause the hooks for cryptsetup to copy the required files into the image so the partition can be unlocked at boot-time
[20:10] <EriC^^> np
[20:11] <NoCode> 117586 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23517.188 FPS -- in glxgears with a 760 -- is that even .. right?
[20:11] <TJ-> ydna: "for D in proc sys dev dev/pts run; do sudo mount --bind /$D /path/to/mountpoint/$D; done"
[20:13] <Pici> NoCode: glxgears is not a benchmark
[20:13] <steve_> Hello, I'm using Ubuntu 15.10 and it isn't remembering my passphrase for my SSH key - what piece of software should be remembering it? I notice that ssh-agent is not running
[20:14] <arik1> EriC^^, odd bootrec isnt recognized
[20:14] <EriC^^> arik1: is there a repair utility or something?
[20:14] <ydna> ok TJ- and  Eric^^ i'm going to try this and  reboot thanks for the help
[20:14] <arik1> EriC^^, using my repair disk yeah?
[20:14] <NoCode> Pici, Okay.
[20:15] <arik1> let me see
[20:15] <EriC^^> arik1: try opening an administrator command prompt
[20:15] <EriC^^> maybe it works in that one
[20:15] <arik1> EriC^^, already done
[20:15] <arik1> EriC^^, maybe powershell?
[20:16] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah why not
[20:16] <arik1> EriC^^, yeah doesnt work lol
[20:17] <hispeed67> hey, what is a good way to use wireless networking without a wireless hub? i.e. is there any way to connect two laptops via wifi without a hub/router?
[20:17] <EriC^^> :D
[20:17] <EriC^^> which windows is it?
[20:17] <arik1> er 10
[20:17] <arik1> EriC^^, 10
[20:17]  * EriC^^ googles
[20:18] <EriC^^> arik1: try cd c:\Windows\system32
[20:19] <arik1> EriC^^, ye when you run as admin it's automatically in that directory
[20:19] <avalon_> hispeed67: crossover ethernet cable or ad-hoc wireless network
[20:19] <EriC^^> ok, type bootsect /nt60 c: /mbr
[20:19] <avalon_> google both
[20:20] <arik1> EriC^^, done
[20:20] <EriC^^> arik1: ok try rebooting
[20:21] <hispeed67> avalon_ my desire is to connect two computers with N network adapters without using my G hub.
[20:21] <ydna> i'm back. if i boot in legacy mode, the boot fails. is my partition table wrong?
[20:21] <arik1> EriC^^, that seems to have fixed it but it gave me no options to boot to kubuntu lol
[20:22] <John[Lisbeth]> ydna: are you sure your computer supports legacy mode?
[20:22] <arik1> EriC^^, not too much of a hassle though since i can probably force it to boot
[20:23] <ydna> John[Lisbeth] if i use uefi mode, it says it cannot find anything to boot
[20:23] <EriC^^> arik1: try booting kubuntu
[20:24] <EriC^^> arik1: maybe if you convert the hdd to mbr it'll recognize it
[20:24] <John[Lisbeth]> ydna are you choosing these modes from within the ubuntu installer or from within your startup menus/os?
[20:24] <ydna> John[Lisbeth] bios
[20:24] <EriC^^> arik1: ah you need to boot the live usb though
[20:24] <John[Lisbeth]> Are you sure that the boot medium is not corrupted?
[20:25] <EriC^^> boot the live usb and then we can try converting it, it's very quick
[20:25] <arik1> EriC^^, alright so boot to normal usb?
[20:25] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:26] <arik1> does windows not have it's on way to have multiple oses?
[20:26] <arik1> own*
[20:27] <ioria> arik1, yes, but Windows based
[20:27] <ioria> arik1, like win7 and Xp
[20:27] <arik1> ioria, oh so no non-windows
[20:27] <arik1> ioria, rip
[20:27] <ioria> arik1, idk, i think NOT
[20:28] <maikolchf> hola
[20:28] <arik1> EriC^^, alright live usb is up
[20:28] <phil42> konnichiwa
[20:29] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, type sudo parted -l
[20:29] <EriC^^> make sure the ubuntu hdd is still /dev/sdb
[20:29] <arik1> EriC^^, alright typed anddd
[20:29] <bekks> phil42: konnichiwa, phil42-san
[20:30] <phil42> konbanwa bekks-san
[20:31] <arik1> EriC^^, termbin.com/dtf9
[20:31] <arik1> EriC^^, i believe so
[20:31] <EriC^^> arik1: sudo gdisk /dev/sdb
[20:32] <arik1> EriC^^, yes found valid gpt with protective mbr using gpt
[20:32] <phil42> ohayou bekks-san
[20:33] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, press "r"
[20:33] <arik1> EriC^^, i pressed it but no enter?
[20:33] <EriC^^> yeah hit enter
[20:33] <arik1> EriC^^, alright in recovery
[20:33] <EriC^^> ok, press "g"
[20:33] <larryf> g
[20:33] <bekks> phil42: Lets stick to support in here ;) Although I'd responded with "genki" ;)
[20:33] <arik1> EriC^^, yep in mbr command
[20:34] <ioria> おはようございます
[20:34] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, press "w" i think to write
[20:34] <EriC^^> arik1: press ? to see the options
[20:34] <arik1> EriC^^, converted 3 partitions filalize and exit
[20:34] <EriC^^> ok, exit
[20:34] <arik1> EriC^^, restart then?
[20:35] <EriC^^> arik1: not yet
[20:35] <EriC^^> type sudo partprobe
[20:35] <EriC^^> then sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[20:35] <EriC^^> ( we need to install grub to the mbr )
[20:35] <arik1> EriC^^, command not found
[20:35] <arik1> EriC^^, oh wait
[20:35] <arik1> EriC^^, whoops
[20:35] <a40ntistos> Hello everyone :) I want your opinion please, It is wise to buy an Dell out of the box with Ubuntu? Like Inspiron 3543?
[20:35] <phil42> ^^
[20:35] <intux__> hello there
[20:35] <arik1> EriC^^, alright mounted
[20:35] <phil42> w
[20:36] <k1l> a40ntistos: why not
[20:36] <k1l> a40ntistos: technically there is no reason to not buy them.
[20:36] <EriC^^> arik1: type " for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done "
[20:37] <arik1> EriC^^, done
[20:37] <pomuaz> i had an electric outtage
[20:38] <John[Lisbeth]> a40ntistos: The hardware will probably not be as good, and the drivers may not even be open source.
[20:38] <a40ntistos> k1l thanks a lot for your answer. I think if i'm not wrong is more value for money? Because you are not actually buying a windows license?
[20:38] <pomuaz> what was the nickname of the person who assisted me with my booting issues
[20:38] <EriC^^> arik1: type sudo chroot /mnt
[20:38] <arik1> EriC^^, done
[20:38] <a40ntistos> John[Lisbeth] hmm ok
[20:38] <EriC^^> arik1: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb
[20:38] <John[Lisbeth]> It is often easier to buy a laptop that runs windows and then just install Ubuntu on it.
[20:39] <k1l> a40ntistos: yes, that way you are not supporting the monopoly of microsoft.
[20:39] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: In the middle of "upgrade" ?? Then we could be in a real hurt .
[20:39] <arik1> EriC^^, installation finished no error reported
[20:39] <k1l> John[Lisbeth]: a40ntistos the dell laptops do work. they dont sell laptops that wont work with ubuntu.
[20:39] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, I dont know - it was done automatically using the software center
[20:40] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, I didnt issue any update - it was one of those automatic things
[20:40] <EriC^^> arik1: update-grub
[20:40] <pomuaz> i cant even launch chrome
[20:40] <pomuaz> its quite annoying
[20:40] <arik1> EriC^^, done, windows showed up as well
[20:41] <John[Lisbeth]> pomuaz: I doubt they did a good job at supporting ubuntu. For example I'd bet that if you reinstalled the OS that the media keys would no longer work, and you would have to put them back in manually.
[20:41] <EriC^^> arik1: great, type exit then try rebooting
[20:41] <John[Lisbeth]> sorry I mean kil
[20:41] <arik1> EriC^^, actually i dont mean to be a chore, but is there a way here we can switch the ordering?
[20:41] <arik1> EriC^^, that way it windows is the highlighted one ?
[20:41] <k1l> John[Lisbeth]: you bet? or do you have a specific issue?
[20:41] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, Is there anything I can do ?
[20:41] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah, type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:41] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: From terminal : what does the system relate by terminal commands ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' ?? We get the more detailed info via terminal .
[20:42] <arik1> EriC^^, termbin.com/4uan
[20:42] <John[Lisbeth]> kil, In my personal experience, most computers that come preinstalled with linux do not do very well.
[20:42] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, It appears to be stuck at 25% Err http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages
[20:42] <pomuaz>   Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages - open (30: Read-only file system) [IP: 173.194.112.67 80]
[20:42] <pomuaz> 25% [Working]
[20:43] <John[Lisbeth]> If you really want to say screw microsoft in your purchase, buy a chromebook and then install ubuntu on it
[20:43] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, type nano /etc/default/grub
[20:43] <John[Lisbeth]> That way you save money while you're doing it and get a slimmer laptop too
[20:43] <arik1> EriC^^, okay
[20:43] <EriC^^> arik1: type 'Windows 10 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)' next to GRUB_DEFAULT
[20:44] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, yeah, it definitely gets stuck there
[20:44] <EriC^^> GRUB_DEFAULT='Windows 10 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)'
[20:44] <k1l> John[Lisbeth]: sorry, but you dont have any experience with dell and making things up.
[20:45] <arik1> EriC^^, so it'd be GRUB_DEFAULT=Windows 10 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)
[20:45] <arik1> ?
[20:45] <John[Lisbeth]> Alright I'll take you at your word about my experience level
[20:45] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: FiX Google : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2315941 .
[20:45] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, how do I open it?
[20:45] <pomuaz> lol
[20:46] <pomuaz> also Bashing-om that command line you gave me got stuck at 25%
[20:46] <EriC^^> arik1: no, it has to have the single quotes too
[20:46] <a40ntistos> k1l: and John[Lisbeth] Dell is the only manufacter that comes with pre installed Ubuntu?
[20:46] <tgm4883> John[Lisbeth]: I don't believe that was the case with the last 2 generations of the Dell Linux boxes (talking about the OS reinstall and stuff not working)
[20:47] <Bashing-om> pomuaz: IF this is the update process ONLY .. key combo ctl+c to terminate . see the referenced link to fix the bad Google source .
[20:47] <pomuaz> Bashing-om, but I cant open it without google chrome
[20:47] <arik1> EriC^^, hastebin,com/tafixocana.vhdl
[20:48] <arik1> EriC^^, hastebin.com/tafixocana.vhdl
[20:48] <texla> a40ntistos, System 76 is purely ubuntu desktop or laptop
[20:49] <Bashing-om> pomuaz " (30: Read-only file system) " No ifs ands buts or nors .. run a file system check from a live means .
[20:51] <EriC^^> arik1: that's not the whole file right?
[20:51] <arik1> EriC^^, no
[20:51] <arik1> EriC^^, just the line
[20:51] <EriC^^> arik1: ok, looks good
[20:51] <EriC^^> save and exit
[20:51] <arik1> EriC^^, saved
[20:51] <EriC^^> type update-grub
[20:51] <arik1> EriC^^, done
[20:52] <arik1> EriC^^, i guess i can restart now?
[20:52] <EriC^^> arik1: yeah, type exit
[20:52] <a40ntistos> texla: Any other to be able to find it easier in Europe? :)
[20:52] <k1l> a40ntistos: there are others, too. i know about system76
[20:52] <EriC^^> arik1: then try rebooting
[20:54] <arik1> EriC^^, yeah it just boots to windows, really odd
[20:55] <EriC^^> arik1: set the ubuntu hdd first
[20:55] <k1l> a40ntistos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
[20:55] <arik1> EriC^^, thats the problem i cant find ubuntu hdd in boot options, i can only find it when im setting what device to boot then
[20:55] <EriC^^> arik1: that sucks
[20:56] <EriC^^> is there any option for hdd stuff?
[20:56] <bray90820>  What would be the proper way to check if a drive is mounted in the terminal
[20:56] <EriC^^> ahci or something
[20:56] <arik1> EriC^^, uhh
[20:56] <arik1> EriC^^, i see acpi
[20:57] <EriC^^> arik1: hmm that's not helpful i guess
[20:58] <arik1> EriC^^, pci rom priority
[20:58] <arik1> EriC^^, oh wait
[20:58] <m3n3chm0> hello, any chance to use Acestrem on 15.10 ¿?
[20:58] <m3n3chm0> Acestream*
[20:59] <arik1> EriC^^, hard disk bbs priorities
[20:59] <arik1> EriC^^, i think that should do it
[20:59] <arik1> EriC^^, it does yay!
[21:00] <Tin_man> EriC^^, I don't mean to butt in, and i haven't kept up on all thats happened, but have you all tried the boot repair tool
[21:00] <Tin_man> http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[21:00] <EriC^^> arik1: great
[21:01] <arik1> Tin_man, It actually finally just finished working :D
[21:02] <arik1> EriC^^, thanks so much eric ! and others
[21:02] <Tin_man> good, i was following before, but had to leave..
[21:02] <Budd> In the Old Days, I could tell what DNS server I was using from /etc/resolv.conf. Now it's hiding somewhere in dnsmasq. How do I find it?
[21:02] <EriC^^> arik1: no problem
[21:02] <arik1> er why wont windows sign me in lol
[21:06] <Bashing-om> bray90820: One way to see what is mounted ' mount' .
[21:08] <bray90820> Bashing-om: I should have stated that i wanted to do it in an if then statement like "if /drive/is/mounted then echo it's mounted"
[21:09] <tgm4883> bray90820: what are you trying to do?
[21:10] <bekks> bray90820: evaluate the content of "cat /proc/mounts"
[21:10] <bray90820> tgm4883: I have a backup script and If my data drive is mounted I want it to run if it's not mounted I want it to exit
[21:11] <tgm4883> bray90820: IMO, it would be better to have a directory inside the mounted directory and check if that exists. eg. if you mount your drive at /srv/backups then you should have a directory at /srv/backups/backup-stuff-here and only backup if that lower directory exists
[21:12] <bekks> tgm4883: a simple file would suffice
[21:12] <tgm4883> bray90820: there isn't a built in way to see if a directory is mounted
[21:12] <bekks> tgm4883: like if [ -f "/srv/backups/mounted" ]
[21:12] <tgm4883> bekks: while that is true, if you do the directory route then logically it would fail if the directory doesn't already exist. Meaning that you don't need a separate check for the dir/file
[21:13] <bray90820> tgm4883: what about instead of seeing of a directory exists I see if a file exists?
[21:13] <tgm4883> bekks: but yes, that would also work
[21:13] <bray90820> I was thinking of making a hidden file called backup or something
[21:13] <bekks> bray90820: that would impose the problem tgm4883 just stated.
[21:14] <tgm4883> bray90820: yea that would work. I usually do the DIR route as then I don't need a separate check for the file
[21:14] <tgm4883> but either way would work
[21:14] <bray90820> I guess I could make it a hidden directory
[21:14] <tgm4883> bray90820: what is the point in making it hidden?
[21:14] <bekks> bray90820: doesnt matter - unless it is UNDER the path you are seeking to use.
[21:15] <bray90820> So me or someone else doesn't delete it
[21:15] <bray90820> I could totally see myself accidentally deleting it
[21:15] <bekks> bray90820: deleting a hidden directory is a oneliner.
[21:15] <tgm4883> bray90820: well that would be where your backups are stored, it should be fairly obvious that it shouldn't be deleted ;P
[21:16] <bray90820> Is there anything wrong with making it hidden
[21:16] <bekks> No, but there is no profit of making it hidden.
[21:16] <tgm4883> bray90820: no, although it sounds like you're not understanding what I'm saying
[21:16] <bray90820> I do understand what your saying it doesn't need to be hidden because it should be obvious to the user not to delete it but acadenst can happen
[21:17] <bray90820> And making it hidden also makes everything look cleaner
[21:17] <tgm4883> bray90820: Why would you delete the directory where all of your backups are stored?
[21:17] <bekks> bray90820: again, deleting a hidden directory is a oneliner.
[21:17] <tgm4883> bray90820: then all of your backups are gone
[21:18] <bray90820> tgm4883: I was talking about seeing if my data drive was mounted
[21:18] <bekks> bray90820: you did not understand what we told you.
[21:18] <tgm4883> bray90820: which brings me back to you not understanding what I'm saying. I'm talking about creating a directory under your mount where your backups would go
[21:19] <tgm4883> bray90820: not (make a folder next to my backups)
[21:19] <bray90820> tgm4883: I am sorry if I am not understanding you
[21:19] <tgm4883> bray90820: specifically, if you mount your drive at /srv/backups. Then you make a directory at /srv/backups/mssql and then all of your backups go in /srv/backups/mssql/<BACKUPS HERE>
[21:20] <tgm4883> So then, if your drive isn't mounted. Then /srv/backups/mssql doesn't exist. And since that directory doesn't exist, then your backups fail
[21:21] <tgm4883> bray90820: does that make sense?
[21:22] <bray90820> I think so
[21:22] <neldogz> Anyone having trouble with RDP windows not rendering correctly from within a virtualbox Windows 10 guest (Ubuntu 15.10 host)
[21:22] <bray90820> tgm4883: That checks if my backup drive exists?
[21:23] <tgm4883> bray90820: it would, since the directory wouldn't exist  unless your backup drive was mounted
[21:23] <bray90820> That's all fine and stuff and I understand that but that's not what I was talking about
[21:23] <bray90820> I wanted to check if my data drive existed
[21:23] <bray90820> That's why I was gonna put the oil in my data drive
[21:24] <tgm4883> bray90820: but.... why? You're end goal was to check if your backup drive was mounted so you could backup your data
[21:24] <jjrabbit443> how come root user does not have a home directory?
[21:24] <Ntemis> hi
[21:24] <bray90820> *Put the Directory in my data drive
[21:24] <tgm4883> jjrabbit443: it does, at /root
[21:24] <bray90820> tgm4883: Do you get what I am saying
[21:25] <Tin_man> jjrabbit443, you are root, so you do have one..
[21:25] <tgm4883> bray90820: is your end goal to have your backups run and only backup if your backup drive is mounted?
[21:25] <bray90820> No
[21:25] <tgm4883> bray90820: then I have no idea what you're asking...
[21:25] <Ntemis> am trying to compile a kernel for my debian nas on ubuntu and i get this error: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal: 84: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal: cannot create /etc/apt/apt.conf.d//01autoremove-kernels.dpkg-new: Permission denied
[21:25] <Ntemis> what shall i do?
[21:25] <Ntemis> grant su access to compiler?
[21:25] <bray90820> tgm4883: My end goal to have your backups run and only backup if my data drive is mounted
[21:26] <jjrabbit443> Tin_man: there is no /home/root/
[21:26] <tgm4883> bray90820: wtf
[21:26] <jjrabbit443> it's under /root/ as tgm4883 said
[21:26] <bray90820> tgm4883: Why is that so confusing
[21:26] <Tin_man> you are root by default, no separate folder
 bray90820: is your end goal to have your backups run and only backup if your backup drive is mounted?
[21:26] <bray90820> Maybe Iam not making myself clear enough
[21:26] <tgm4883> bray90820> No
[21:26] <tgm4883> bray90820> tgm4883: My end goal to have your backups run and only backup if my data drive is mounted
[21:26] <tgm4883> how is that not exactly the same thing?
[21:27] <jjrabbit443> why wouldn't you put /root/ under the home directory though where the rest of the user stuff goes?
[21:27] <bray90820> tgm4883: Backup drive and data drive two different things
[21:27] <tgm4883> bray90820: AH
[21:27] <k1l> jjrabbit443: ubuntu is setup to not use the root as a user account anyway.
[21:27] <bray90820> tgm4883: Is it all clear now?
[21:27] <bray90820> :P
[21:27] <tgm4883> bray90820: yes, that is much more clear
[21:28] <k1l> !dualboot | a40ntistos
[21:28] <Tin_man> jjrabbit443, might read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2123582
[21:28] <jjrabbit443> k1l: good point
[21:28] <genii> jjrabbit443: Because sometimes /home is mounted to a different partition than / is
[21:28] <bray90820> tgm4883: That's why I would put the folder in my data drive
[21:28] <genii> jjrabbit443: If you can still get to / then root still has their home dir
[21:28] <bray90820> :P
[21:29] <tgm4883> bray90820: so then your use case would be to plug in your data drive and then it would backup at some point to the local system?
[21:30] <bray90820> Well... my data drive SHOULD always be up but things can happen and I don't want it backing up an empty drive because then it would basically just remove an old backup without backing  anything up
[21:31] <tgm4883> bray90820: then yea, your best bet would be some file on the drive, then checking if it exists
[21:31] <bray90820> tgm4883: file or folder?
[21:32] <tgm4883> bray90820: it honestly doesn't matter. Either would work
[21:32] <bray90820> Alright
[21:33] <bray90820> I actually am gonna do the same thing on my backup drive
[21:40] <mparkhurst433> quit
[21:40] <mparkhurst433> exit
[21:41] <skinux> This is gonna sound strange, but would it be complex to write a bash script that would be run once Unity Desktop finished loading, that would launch Google Chrome with two locations in tabs?
[21:41] <DirtyCajun> i installed the 4.5 kernel and apt-get still shows 4.2.whatever as an upgrade. why is that?
[21:41] <bray90820> tgm4883: Thanks
[21:41] <nacc> DirtyCajun: what do you mean you installed the 4.5 kernel? from source?
[21:41] <DirtyCajun> nacc: yes
[21:41] <nacc> DirtyCajun: how would apt know about that?
[21:42] <nacc> DirtyCajun: apt only knows about packages that you've installed
[21:42] <tgm4883> skinux: when you say "2 locations", do you mean 2 differnet URLs?
[21:42] <DirtyCajun> i assumed it would recognize the newer number.
[21:42] <genii> DirtyCajun: Only if you installed it from a .deb
[21:42] <tgm4883> DirtyCajun: how would it even know about the number?
[21:42] <nacc> DirtyCajun: apt isn't looking at /boot or anything, it's using the package lists from the archive
[21:42] <nacc> DirtyCajun: apt isn't omniscient :)
[21:43] <DirtyCajun> ah i see. that makes sense. i wish it was tho :P. is there a way to let it know post-event?
[21:43] <tgm4883> 'apt install apt-omniscient'
[21:43] <nacc> DirtyCajun: only if you package your kernel
[21:43] <rud0lf> hello :)
[21:43] <Ntemis> guys can i build a debian kernel on ubuntu?
[21:43] <tgm4883> DirtyCajun: no. You would need to install the package
[21:43] <nacc> DirtyCajun: and even if you did, unless you uninstall the meta-package providing the 4.2- official kernels, apt will continue to happily update them
[21:44] <nacc> Ntemis: I would think so; but why would you?
[21:44] <Ntemis> my nas is on jessie and i would like to use an LTS kernel
[21:44] <rud0lf> i was digging through gsettings, and i've found "org.compiz.integrated command21 gnome-system-monitor -p"
[21:45] <Ntemis> that i can upgrade my self
[21:45] <xangua> Ntemis: /join #debian
[21:45] <rud0lf> it's nice, i'd like to have shortcut key for system monitor
[21:45] <Ntemis> thing is xangua am on ubuntu desktop
[21:45] <Ntemis> and i want to build that on this
[21:45] <rud0lf> but run-command-21 says "ctrl-alt-del".. and it displays lock/logout window :(
[21:45] <Ntemis> will it matter where kernel is build upon?
[21:46] <TJ-> Ntemis: no, you can pull the source and build it on any suitable host
[21:47] <mintyed_> hi all i am wondering if ubuntu has a built in recorder app to record mic
[21:47] <Ntemis> ty
[21:47] <mcphail> Ntemis: preumably your NAS is an ARM device? If so, you're going to have to cross-compile and learn how to call the new kernel from uboot (or whatever)
[21:48] <skinux> tgm4883: Yes, two different websites
[21:49] <tgm4883> skinux: can you run chrome from the command line and have it open 2 URLs?
[21:49] <ubuntu-mate> Hello, how do the ubuntu developers pack a bootable iso file containing an Ubuntu release?
[21:49] <tgm4883> skinux: I know you can do one, not sure about 2
[21:49] <skinux> Hmm
[21:50] <ubuntu-mate> I'd like to follow the official procedures when I want to create an iso with the updated packages without getting unneeded files
[21:50] <skinux> It's not important anyway...I'm just being lazy :P
[21:50] <ubuntu-mate> *without adding unneeded files
[21:50] <tgm4883> skinux: if so, then you could just add it to startup programs
[21:50] <tgm4883> skinux: or you could set it chrome settings to start those 2 URLs when you start chrome
[21:50] <tgm4883> skinux: which IIRC is the recommended way to do kiosks
[21:52] <boss>  LIST
[21:52] <boss> LIST #ubuntu
[21:53] <tgm4883> boss: whatever you are doing, it is wrong
[21:53] <boss> lol i know
[21:54] <Myrtti> boss: what are you actually trying to do?
[21:54] <jjrabbit443> try adding /msg alis LIST #ubuntu
[21:55] <Bashing-om> boss: In your status window do : '/msg alis help list' for guidance on listing on freenode .
[21:56] <fuzzybear3965> Hey, I'm having an issue configuring a systemd unit file.
[21:56] <fuzzybear3965> http://pastebin.com/tNby7EAH
[21:56] <fuzzybear3965> The error I'm getting is : [/etc/systemd/system/emperor.service:12] Executable path is not absolute, ignoring: ${UWSGI} --master --emperor /etc/uwsgi/vassals --die-on-term --uid 1000 --gid 1000 --logto ${LOGTO}.
[21:56] <fuzzybear3965> Can someone give me a hand?
[22:06] <TJ-> fuzzybear3965: Environment="UWSGI=/home/john/LaTeXCI/venv/bin/uwsgi LOGTO=/var/log/uwsgi/emperor.log"
[22:06] <TJ-> fuzzybear3965: (all on one line, inside a single set of double-quotes
[22:06] <fuzzybear3965> You think the whole thing should be quoted?
[22:07] <TJ-> fuzzybear3965: it doesn't really need quoting unless you expect spaces in awkard places
[22:08] <TJ-> fuzzybear3965: look at other examples, e.g: /lib/systemd/system/libvirt-bin.service:Environment=LIBVIRTD_ARGS= KRB5_KTNAME=/etc/libvirt/libvirt.keytab
[22:09] <fuzzybear3965> Nah, it didn't work.
[22:09] <fuzzybear3965> I made sure to daemon-reload.
[22:09] <fuzzybear3965> It still fails.
[22:09] <TJ-> fuzzybear3965: what does the line look like now?
[22:10] <TJ-> fuzzybear3965: you can see plenty of examples with " grep Environment= /lib/systemd/system/* 2>/dev/null "
[22:11] <fuzzybear3965> I get the same error: http://pastebin.com/816pGwRv
[22:11] <fuzzybear3965> Well, yeah, I thought that I was good, too: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html#Command%20lines .
[22:12] <TJ-> try removing those double-quotes though
[22:12] <fuzzybear3965> Nah, same issue.
[22:13] <TJ-> fuzzybear3965: oh! you can't use an Env Var for the executable name!
[22:13] <fuzzybear3965> Really?
[22:13] <fuzzybear3965> Why not?
[22:13] <crisco> hey. i have two partitions, one with win 8.1, one with ubuntu. can i shrink the ubuntu partition with gparted to make more space for windows without messing up either installation?
[22:13] <AciD`> hi
[22:13] <fuzzybear3965> I saw this: Note that the first argument of the command line (i.e. the program to execute) may not include specifiers. .
[22:13] <fuzzybear3965> But, what's a "specifier"?
[22:14] <AciD`> I'm trying to dpkg-reconfigure mariadb-server-10.0, but somehow no configuration window/option is show in my terminal. How and where do you set that dpkg should use the terminal to show you the configuration stuff?
[22:14] <yacc_> 14.04 => how to get rid of "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 256 bits)"? (Haswell laptop with Optimus, but I'm happy with Intel only setups.)
[22:14] <TJ-> fuzzybear3965: you might be able to convert it to "ExecStart=/bin/sh -c "${UWSGI} --master ..."
[22:14] <fuzzybear3965> Why can't I use an environment variable for a command name?
[22:15] <fuzzybear3965> Does bash not resolve the environment variable before it starts executing the command?
[22:15] <fuzzybear3965> I'll just write it the long way, I think.
[22:15] <TJ-> AciD`: how about "dpkg-reconfigure --priority=high mariadb-server-10.0" ?
[22:16] <fuzzybear3965> TJ-, `bash -c` worked. Thanks.
[22:16] <yacc_> fuzzybear3965, first thing would be to see if the command arrives as expected at the shell.
[22:16] <yacc_> fuzzybear3965, why do you expect UWSGI to be set?
[22:17] <fuzzybear3965> Well, I set it in the line before ExecStart.
[22:17] <fuzzybear3965> Yeah, I could have checked at the shell, I guess.
[22:18] <fuzzybear3965> But, I did already set the environment variable above. So, below, it should just replace the environment variable with what I had defined earlier.
[22:18] <TJ-> yacc_: it's set via Environment= *but* ExecStart= doesn't interpret variables; it effectively does "sh -c ${Environment} ${ExecStart}"
[22:18] <fuzzybear3965> I don't know. That's what I was thinking.
[22:18] <fuzzybear3965> Oh. Okay.
[22:19] <fuzzybear3965> So, what I wrote is not being expanded.
[22:19] <TJ-> so you end up with systemd trying to literally find an executable file called ${UWSGI} and as it doesn't start with a path separator it is assumed to be a relative path, which Systemd won't allow. Hence the warning
[22:20] <yacc_> ! optimus
[22:20] <AciD`> TJ- -> well, doing that just starts the mariadb server, with no configuration whatsoever : 160315 12:19:23 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld (mysqld 10.0.23-MariaDB-0ubuntu0.15.10.1) starting as process 4171 ...
[22:20] <TJ-> if you changed that to "ExecStart=/${UWSGI} ..." you'd likely get a 'file not found' error instead
[22:21] <TJ-> AciD`: I'm not sure then; you could try deleting the debconf entries for that package entirely
[22:22] <fuzzybear3965> TJ-, Thanks, man. This really clears it up.
[22:22] <fuzzybear3965> I've changed it to `/bin/sh -c "${} --options"` and it's great.
[22:22] <fuzzybear3965> Thanks.
[22:22] <Earlo> If I have a value n, what is the best way to set it to be in between values a and b (a < b), in such way that if it's smaller than a, it's set as a, and if it's larger than b it's set as b, else it's kept as it is. max( a, min( b, n) ) works, but is awfully slow. setting the n with simple if else works too, and is faster, but is also really ugly.
[22:23] <Earlo> sorry, wrong channel
[22:24] <TJ-> AciD`: it's possible you've got debconf itself configured to use the noninteractive front-end, in which case you won't get prompted. Check with "dpkg-reconfigure debconf"
[22:33] <Guest27304> hello
[22:33] <Guest27304> i need to my ubuntu shut down 2 hours later automotically what should i do?
[22:35] <Guest27304> i need to my ubuntu shut down 2 hours later automotically what should i do?
[22:35] <kalsa> good day yall! got some issues with installing ubuntu on my new rig
[22:35] <Bashing-om> Guest27304: Terminal command ' sudo shutdown -h 240 ' will do that ,
[22:36] <Bashing-om> Guest27304: 240/120**
[22:36] <Guest27304> Bashing-om, what is 240?
[22:36] <kalsa> i get an error code at the begining of the ubuntu media boot that "kernel channel wanst created"'
[22:36] <Bashing-om> Guest27304: minutes til .
[22:37] <Guest27304> Bashing-om, -h means hour?
[22:37] <kalsa> can anyone help me please?
[22:38] <Bashing-om> Guest27304: No .. the 'h' is for bring the system down gracefully and (H)alt .
[22:39] <kalsa> Please i need this system but my PC wotn work along
[22:40] <Guest27304> okay thanks
[22:41] <Bashing-om> Guest27304: For full disclosure : ' man shutdown ; .
[22:43] <AciD`> TJ- -> `dpkg-reconfigure debconf` showed that I'm using the 'dialog' front-end
[22:43] <AciD`> now, using `dpkg-reconfigure  mariadb-server-10.0`...just do nothing. Does it do something for you guys?
[22:43] <TJ-> AciD`: in which case you should have got prompts... unless the package isn't using debconf
[22:45] <TJ-> AciD`: how about "dpkg-reconfigure mariadb-server-core-10.0" ?
[22:46] <AciD`> TJ- -> nothing
[22:46] <AciD`> it just returns almost immediatly
[22:48] <TJ-> AciD`: ahhh... possibly "mariadb-common" since that contains the config files themselves
[22:48] <AciD`> TJ- -> not mariadb-common nor mariadb-server
[22:48] <AciD`> (I tried them all ;x)
[22:49] <AciD`> this is annoying!
[22:49] <TJ-> AciD`: with "--priority=high" ?
[22:50] <AciD`> TJ- -> I set the debconf priority to normal already, but using --priority=high" does not change anything :(
[22:51] <AciD`> only when I use dpkg-reconfigure on the `mariadb-server-10.0` package it takes some time to return (and if the server is not up, it launches it)
[22:52] <TJ-> AciD`: oh! mariadb provides/uses mysql naming doesn't it. how about "dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server" ?
[22:53] <AciD`> I don't have a mysql-server installed
[22:53] <AciD`> no so dpkg-reconfigure for this one!
[22:53] <AciD`> just to be clear
[22:54] <AciD`> when you do a dpkg-reconfigure on that package, does it show you something?
[22:55] <Smokie> hey guys, is there a way to find out what is using the most disk space using command line by any chance?
[22:55] <TJ-> AciD`: mariadb replaces mysql-server, and *uses* the same debconf entries
[22:56] <TJ-> AciD`: e.g. from "debian/dist/Debian/mariadb-server-10.0.postinst" is the command "db_set mysql-server/root_password "" "
[22:56] <Bashing-om> Smokie: Generally ' df -h ' , then one can get specific with a 'du' command .
[22:57] <AciD`> TJ- -> well, I get this : https://nopaste.me/view/e06e413e
[22:58] <TJ-> AciD`: Hmm, not sure what's going on then. The mariadb package definitely uses debconf entries for "mysql-server" though
[22:59] <Smokie> Bashing-om, du doesnt show the size in MB/GB and it kinda gives a huge list
[23:00] <pendleton> Smokie: try du -h
[23:02] <Bashing-om> Smokie: ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' . If you need to drill down further, use cd to move to a directory of interest then repeat the du command. The results are in megabytes, (The "x" switch limits du to a single file system, in this case the root file system.)
[23:02] <Smokie> pendleton, heh i tried that first and it gave me command not find, now it works.. i used the wrong flag
[23:05] <Smokie> Bashing-om, that is great.. is there a way to make that show in GB?
[23:06] <Smokie> nm, got it
[23:06] <Smokie> great command, thanks man
[23:08] <neldogz> Anyone having trouble with RDP windows not rendering correctly from within a virtualbox Windows 10 guest (Ubuntu 15.10 host)
[23:08] <teward> neldogz: that's a Windows issue and not an Ubuntu one
[23:08] <nicomachus> neldogz: sounds like a Windows issue, if it's happening on the guest OS
[23:08] <teward> neldogz: if it's an issue with rendering inside the VM on the guest, then that's a Windows question
[23:09] <teward> and not an Ubuntu one
[23:09] <Bashing-om> Smokie: Try adding a -h ( human readable) .
[23:09] <Smokie> Bashing-om, yeah, thats what i did
[23:10] <neldogz> teward, understood, Virtualbox forces you to use the 3d experimental drivers with Windows 10
[23:10] <neldogz> teward, unfortunately they dont seem to work well
[23:10] <Smokie> Bashing-om, it doesnt "sort" them by size though
[23:10] <teward> neldogz: probably why they're 'experimental'
[23:10] <neldogz> teward, yes, have you experienced this problem by chance?
[23:11] <teward> neldogz: offtopic here.  happy to talk in PM, though
[23:11] <neldogz> teward, thanks!
[23:13] <Bashing-om> Smokie: Do not know what to say. I just ran it to verify .. my list is size sorted . smallest to largest .
[23:14] <pendleton> Smokie: does it seem to be in text order with -h? Like for ex: 1, 100, 2, 20, etc.
[23:15] <pendleton> Smokie: Because that's normal
[23:17] <Smokie> pendleton, yeah, its listing like you said
[23:17] <Smokie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15398127/
[23:23] <pendleton> Smokie: hmm, you could try piping the same command through awk
[23:23] <pendleton> Smokie: sudo du -sx * | sort -n | awk '{print $1/1024 "MB " $2}' possibly?
[23:27] <Reptilia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1557794
[23:42] <dep> hellow