[00:49] <aloiece> hello I've compiled ffado myself and when trying to run the ffado-mixer in the terminal I get:
[00:49] <aloiece>  File "/usr/bin/ffado-mixer", line 31, in <module>
[00:49] <aloiece>      from ffado.ffadowindow import *
[00:58] <aloiece> also I'm running the 16.04 beta
[00:59] <Peppernrino> bleeding edge
[01:00] <aloiece> well all I'm trying to do is get my two echo audiofire12 cards to work together
[01:00] <cfhowlett> bloddy edge
[01:00] <cfhowlett> bloody
[01:00] <cfhowlett> you're trying to get high performance out of an unreleased beta version ...
[01:01] <aloiece> weeeell
[01:01] <aloiece> Often these things just work with tiny tweaks
[01:02] <aloiece> but this time I don't know any further
[01:02] <aloiece> (plus I never had the cards running together on any previous install either...))
[01:03] <cfhowlett> #opensourcemusicians perhaps ...
[01:07] <aloiece> ok cheers
[01:16] <zequence> aloiece: You didn't supply the whole error. It's a python error of some kind
[01:17] <zequence> Would be good to paste it somewhere, if it's more than one or two lines, and the post the link here
[01:18] <zequence> The two lines you are part of the story which tells where the error occured
[01:18] <zequence> Sorry..
[01:18] <zequence> The two lines you pasted are part of the story which tells where the error occured
[01:19] <zequence> But, it's not the whole story
[01:19] <cfhowlett> I like the first way better, Z  :)
[01:19] <zequence> :)
[01:24] <aloiece> ok will come back to you asap
[01:29] <zequence> aloiece: If you like, you can use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:33] <zequence> aloiece: Why did you build ffado from source, btw?
[01:34] <zequence> I've never tried daisy chaining on Linux myself, and not sure how one can even find out how many devices work that way
[01:34] <zequence> If one works, than ffado is working at least
[01:34] <zequence> If you know for a fact that a very recent change in the source has improved something for you, it makes sense to build it from source
[01:35] <zequence> I would imagine that the ffado version in 16.04 is quite recent though
[01:37] <zequence> I can only help with the python error, pretty much. Anything else, I would suggest contacting ffado people. There's an irc channel #ffado. They also have their mail lists and forums, and such
[01:37] <zequence> Could be there are some ardour folks who have some experience in daisy chaining as well. So, you could try #ardour
[01:37] <zequence> #opensourcemusicians is already mentioned
[02:12] <aloiece> ~$ ffado-mixer
[02:12] <aloiece> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:12] <aloiece>   File "/usr/bin/ffado-mixer", line 31, in <module>
[02:12] <aloiece>     from ffado.ffadowindow import *
[02:12] <aloiece> ImportError: No module named ffado.ffadowindow
[02:12] <aloiece> is all i get from the terminal
[02:13] <zequence> aloiece: ffado is missing a python module. It comes with the ffado source, but for some reason it is not in a path which python can find when running ffado-mixer
[02:14] <aloiece> hm
[02:14] <zequence> So, either installed into the wrong place, or not at all, or it the wrong python running the program
[02:14] <zequence> aloiece: Again, why are you building from source?
[02:14] <aloiece> ah right
[02:15] <aloiece> uhm on the ffado page there is a thread regarding the devices I'm using and with the svn I'm trying to compile it's supposed to be working
[02:15] <aloiece> that's why
[02:15] <aloiece> =)
[02:15] <aloiece> otherwise I'd have to downgrade the firmware
[02:15] <zequence> which version of ffado is suppose to work?
[02:15] <aloiece> which I dare not do ;)
[02:18] <aloiece> this one subversion.ffado.org/ffado/trunk/libffado
[02:19] <zequence> That's not showing me the version though. Just the url for their source
[02:19] <zequence> Could you post the link the ffado page instead?
[02:20] <aloiece> yea sorry
[02:20] <aloiece> http://www.ffado.org/?q=comment/12757#comment-12757
[02:20] <aloiece> i know it says 14.04
[02:21] <aloiece> and I had it almost working in 15.10
[02:21] <zequence> aloiece: That was posted 05/29/2014, which means whatever version of ffado existed in svn by that time
[02:21] <zequence> It has since long been in Ubuntu repos
[02:21] <aloiece> but too much updating at some point screws up some things so i went ahead and got the beta I'm running now and It's been stabel in studio and live
[02:22] <aloiece> hm
[02:22] <zequence> I don't think building ffado from source will help in this case
[02:23] <aloiece> hm i see
[02:23] <aloiece> I did have the impression I got a newer version when I compiled it under 15.109
[02:23] <aloiece> 10
[02:23] <aloiece> Then I was finaly able to change the sample rate and clock source in ffado
[02:25] <zequence> I stil don't think compiling it from source will help. Just install the packages from the repos normally
[02:25] <zequence> ffado in xenial is at 2.2.1-3
[02:26] <zequence> Hmm, looking at the versions now I see that very few new ones have been released for the past year
[02:27] <aloiece> well that, and the stock version has somehow never worked
[02:28] <aloiece> version I'm compiling is 2.2.9999
[02:28] <zequence> The version in xenial is a new upload compared to vivid (15.10), so something has changed
[02:29] <aloiece> mhm!
[02:30] <zequence> I'm getting the source now
[02:30] <aloiece> thanks man!
[02:31] <aloiece> glad you're looking into my stuff! really appreaciate it!
[02:33] <zequence> aloiece: Latest change concerning audiofire devices seems to be 2014-05-06
[02:34] <zequence> aloiece: YOu can check yourself with: svn log --search AudioFire
[02:34] <zequence> You can try other search terms as well
[02:34] <zequence> ..if you want
[02:34] <aloiece> well in the official realeases but apparentlyc the svn worked out for the guy
[02:35] <aloiece> in the post
[02:35] <zequence> Yes, back in 2014
[02:35] <zequence> That's my point
[02:36] <zequence> Now I'm checking the Debian source, which is where Ubuntu gets it's ffado
[02:36] <aloiece> yeah i see your point. as i said, i thought with a few little tweaks wht worked on 14.04 should work on 16.04
[02:37] <aloiece> i know that sounds a little off but a lot fo things have worked in both 12.04 and 14.04
[02:37] <aloiece> and the post is from 2014 -05-29
[02:37] <aloiece> the update you mention is a little earlier
[02:37] <aloiece> a bit older
[02:41] <zequence> I'm still a little puzzled, but there is a chance some changes are missing still
[02:42] <zequence> Debian has not been updating its ffado much, relying on stable releases from ffado, basically, which don't happen so often now
[02:42] <aloiece> hm yeah
[02:42] <zequence> So, at this point, it would be best if you did a bug report in Ubuntu
[02:42] <aloiece> can i ask you a question?
[02:42] <zequence> Sure
[02:43] <aloiece> do you mind guiding me through a proper bug report? I've never done one but I would love to get more into it
[02:43] <zequence> It's not that difficult, actually, these days. You do need a launchpad account, so get one if haven't already at http://launchpad.net
[02:44] <zequence> Then, in your terminal, while booted into the system in question, do: ubuntu-bug libffado
[02:44] <zequence> libffado is the name of the debian/ubuntu package
[02:44] <zequence> or, the source package, actually
[02:44] <aloiece> have got one
[02:44] <aloiece> account i mean
[02:44] <zequence> Since you don't know the exact commit that fixes this, someone will need to find one - if there is one
[02:44] <zequence> But, you could help by searching the svn log for something that seems relevant
[02:45] <zequence> To see the whole log, this command should help: svn log | less
[02:45] <zequence> less is a text viewer. Use up and down arrows to scroll, or page up/down. Use 'q' to quit
[02:46] <zequence> If a fix is found, someone can add it to the source
[02:46] <zequence> To the Ubuntu source, that is
[02:46] <aloiece> ok cool
[02:46] <aloiece> when using the command i get
[02:46] <aloiece> help:: command not found
[02:46] <aloiece> (END)
[02:46] <aloiece> [1]+  Stopped                 help: svn log | less
[02:46] <aloiece> ]
[02:47] <zequence> the command is this...
[02:47] <zequence> svn log | less
[02:47] <aloiece> ui
[02:47] <aloiece> sry
[02:47] <aloiece> little sleepy already
[02:47] <zequence> It's ok. I know how it is
[02:48] <aloiece> yikes 4 o'clock
[02:48] <zequence> aloiece: A tip..
[02:48] <zequence> Seems like AudioFire is a fireworks device
[02:48] <aloiece> yes?
[02:48] <zequence> So, I would scan the log for anything to do with "fireworks"
[02:49] <aloiece> thanks for that!
[02:50] <aloiece> hm, now i get
[02:50] <zequence> aloiece: It would of course help if you were able to build the svn from source and found it to work.
[02:50] <aloiece> svn: E155007: '/home/aloiece/libffado' is not a working copy
[02:51] <zequence> You need to be in the svn repo folder to use that command
[02:52] <aloiece> which is the same as my working directory for compiling (scons and scons install that is)
[02:52] <zequence> It's getting late here as well, so I will have to quit here. If you want to get help with building ffado, try #ffado, #opensourcemusicians, #lad, #ardour, and #jack also
[02:52] <aloiece> right?
[02:52] <zequence> Yeah
[02:52] <zequence> But was that the svn repo, really? Why is it called libffado?
[02:52] <zequence> Anyway, as said. Time to snooze
[02:53] <aloiece> cheers! man thanks for your help! good night!
[02:59] <aloiece> ok now i went into the svn directory and got it
[02:59] <aloiece> thanks again
[07:47] <cfhowlett> Ubuntu Designs Wanted:  http://mhall119.com/2016/03/help-make-gnome-software-beautiful/
[16:41] <rick_> hello everybody
[16:42] <rick_> somebody knows how install the linuxsampler ?
[16:42] <rick_> some tutorials...
[18:13] <Peppernrino> http://mhall119.com/2016/03/help-make-gnome-software-beautiful/
[18:13] <Peppernrino> ooops
[18:13] <Peppernrino> i meant to post that in another channel to help. lol