[07:12] <superm1> can someone accept fwupdate* out of unapproved?  the uefi binaries don't appear to be landing at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-proposed/main/uefi/fwupdate-amd64/
[09:29] <apw> superm1, cirtainly if it is in unapproved for uefi bits they will not be in dists till they are approved
[09:45] <cjwatson> superm1: done
[09:49] <superm1> Thanks
[10:04] <ginggs> would someone look at firmware-extract in NEW please?  it's not really new, it was temporarily removed while python-support was being removed.
[10:39] <zequence> Hi. We did a rename of a meta package recently, which is unfortunately keeping our ISOs from building. Could someone please replace ubuntustudio-font-meta with ubuntustudio-fonts in the live-build config for us?
[10:39] <zequence> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/auto/config#L350
[10:47] <cjwatson> zequence: done
[10:50] <zequence> cjwatson: Big thanks
[10:54] <sakrecoer> thank you very much cjwatson ! :)
[10:55] <sakrecoer> and also, hi all! as of now i wont say much since i'm still learning, but i will stick arround and try absorbe as much info as possible
[11:00] <sakrecoer> sorry also perhaps i should write i'm the next ubuntu studio project-lead, holding the flame after zequence. doing my best to catch up on everything :)
[14:33] <cyphermox> could someone please review libcxl in xenial NEW ? it's been sitting there for a month ;)
[14:34] <seb128> cyphermox, so go stuff are sitting since decembre, you are lucky ;-)
[14:34] <cyphermox> haha ;)
[14:34] <seb128> cyphermox, how is the n-m ffe going btw?
[14:34] <cyphermox> I review go if you review libcxl?
[14:35] <cyphermox> moving forward, at least the testing is getting done, it looks real solid so far
[14:35] <cyphermox> last night I ported the dnsmasq patch to work again, I needed some alcohol to get that done
[14:36] <cyphermox> down to fixing typos here and there, but the annoying part is done, so I'll get back to it tonight, or over lunch
[14:37] <seb128> cyphermox, I can try to have a look once I'm done with the nautilus changes I'm working on (if nobody beats me to it)
[14:38] <cyphermox> seb128: i wouldn't be able to ack go anyway
[14:38] <seb128> cyphermox, don't bother about those, I was just pointing it out
[14:38] <seb128> seems like we lack archive admin reviews this cycle (and probably not only that)
[14:41] <infinity> cyphermox: I'll look at libwhosit.
[14:42] <infinity> seb128: Yeah, doko and I had a chat about that at Connect.  Might be time to reinstate AA day rotations to at least make sure some people are sometimes processing the queue.
[14:43] <seb128> unsure how well the rotations work with everybody been too busy, but people doing some work every now and then would be nice
[14:43] <infinity> cyphermox: I'm surprised that in all this time, you didn't get it into Debian and just sync. :P
[14:43] <seb128> I've been mostly trying to unblock people who asked about things/needed them to land features or other xenial work
[14:43] <cyphermox> infinity: not my call, it's in mentors waiting for review, and I'm not a DD
[14:43] <infinity> seb128: Rotations tend to lead to some people still slacking when super busy, but you get a bit more consistency (and a tiny bit of guilt).
[14:44] <infinity> cyphermox: Oh.  But you'd be maintaining it in Debian?
[14:44] <seb128> right
[14:44] <infinity> cyphermox: You could have asked me to sponsor it there. :)
[14:44] <cyphermox> infinity: no, frediz would, IIRC
[14:44] <infinity> (Or did you, and I failed?)
[14:44] <cyphermox> I may have
[14:45] <cyphermox> or I foolishly thought that since it was in mentors already it would get sponsored sooner
[14:45] <infinity> cyphermox: Yeah, mentors seems to be where a lot of packages go to die if you don't actively seek a sponsor.
[14:46] <infinity>         make VERS_SONAME=$(VERS_SONAME) VERS_LIB=$(VERS_LIB)
[14:46] <infinity> You're kidding me.
[14:46] <cyphermox> infinity: I remember telling frediz he should ask around, I know he probably knows one or two DDs who could sponsor it
[14:46] <infinity> That's not baked into the upstream makefiles?
[14:46] <cyphermox> nope :/
[14:47] <infinity> If I were you, I'd push back on them to fix that.  "make && make install" should Just Work.
[14:47] <infinity> Having every distro declare the SOVER is asking for trouble. :P
[14:47] <infinity> (And, indeed, if you're declaring SOVER=1, how do you know that's "right"?)
[14:48] <ogra_> because ABIs are always backwards compatible indeed :P
[14:48] <infinity>   * Removed libcxl.a from files to ship.
[14:48] <infinity> cyphermox: ^-- Why?
[14:48] <infinity> cyphermox: Nothing wrong with shipping a static lib in -dev
[14:49] <seb128> hum
[14:49] <seb128> the "current" daily image is from the 07
[14:49] <seb128> is anyone looking at that?
[14:49] <xnox> infinity, until broken cmake fails to use a perfect .so and goes into staticly linking all the things.
[14:49] <infinity> seb128: I guess smoketesting exploded again.  Poke jibel, perhaps?
[14:49] <seb128> jibel, ^
[14:50] <infinity> xnox: cmake sucking won't stop me from shipping static libc. :P
[14:50] <xnox> #rebelheart
[14:51] <infinity> cyphermox: debian/outfile looks like a copy of debian/source/format for no discernable reason.
[14:51] <cyphermox> outfile would be wrong, I may have messed up the building + rebuilding
[14:52] <infinity> cyphermox: And yell at frediz for the license on debian/* not matching /*, the implied license that places on patches makes things awkward.
[14:53] <xnox> infinity, "debian/outfile" is dh_make bug i think.
[14:54] <cyphermox> well, it's a catch I didn't notice, anyway
[14:54] <infinity> xnox: Might be, but dh_make also tells you to look through debian/ and delete what you don't need. ;)
[14:55] <infinity> cyphermox: If he really cares about the license on debian/* (despite it being mostly uncopyrightable) being GPL-2+, he should probably also have a stanza for debian/patches/* as Apache-2.0, IMO.
[14:55] <infinity> But that's nitpicking.
[14:56] <infinity> Hah.  And no working "make install" either?
[14:56] <infinity> Man, you need to kick IBM for the state of this project upstream being terribad.
[14:57]  * cyphermox updates the bug
[14:58] <cyphermox> infinity: thanks for the review
[14:58] <infinity> cyphermox: So, other than all the above rant, the one thing I might insist on changing would be that they set the VER/SOVER to 0.3/0 until upstream actually bakes a proper SONAME in and agrees to track ABI properly.
[14:58] <infinity> cyphermox: Cause SOVER 1 implies tracking and consistency across distros, and if we have to set it externally, I don't see how we can promise that.
[14:59] <cyphermox> infinity: mind if I copy-pasta this verbatim?
[14:59] <infinity> cyphermox: By all means.
[15:01] <jibel> seb128, cyphermox was looking into it with max
[15:01] <seb128> jibel, thanks
[15:04] <infinity> jibel: current/ seems to break a lot.  Is it that we're producing a crappy distro for you to test, or is the infra a bit brittle and needs someone to actually give it some love?
[15:04] <infinity> (Willing to believe either, or a mix of both, but I'm betting it's mostly the latter)
[15:13] <cyphermox> infinity: it oscillates between the two. sometimes it's that we make a crappy distro, sometimes it's that the infra fails in marvelous ways
[15:13] <cyphermox> this time it looks like it's the latter, and we're looking into it
[15:13] <infinity> cyphermox: Ta.
[15:14] <cyphermox> fwiw, I played with the image enough yesterday to know it probably should have automatically transitioned
[15:14] <cyphermox> and I'm about to start with today's
[15:14] <infinity> Right, the smoketests aren't particularly deep IIRC, so if it boots/installs/reboots, the fault is in the infra.
[15:16] <cyphermox> there are also some limited LVM tests IIRC
[15:16] <cyphermox> but I installed with LVM anyway ;)
[21:47] <lamont> infinity: (et al): I'm planning (unless you scream) on uploading postfix-3.1.0 as part of my postifx 3 cleanup, since it's (1) minor changes from a very cautious upstream, that (2) we want all of which (3) has had a blanket approval for such things before it loosened up to be general
[21:47] <lamont> infinity: in other news, bind 9.10.3-P2 ==> -P4 sometime soonish
[21:48] <lamont> but first Imma fix 1556175
[21:48] <infinity> LP: #1556175
[21:48] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1556175 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "networking.service hangs on shutdown -- killing dhclient has no effect any more" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1556175
[21:48] <infinity> lamont: Oh, yes.  Please fix that. :P
[21:48] <lamont> infinity: you do not want to read what I did to fix it.
[21:48] <lamont> upstream dropped the --enable-exportlib support from configure, since you know, dhcp is going to be "just fin"e
[21:49] <lamont> just fine™, only dhcp isn't there yet.
[21:49] <infinity> lamont: I don't know postfix upstream well enough to know what I'd expect 3.0.4->3.1.0 to contain, but if it's not featureful and you're sure it's all things we really, really want, I'll trust your judgement.  Be prepared to fix it if it sucks.
[21:49] <lamont> infinity: yep
[21:50] <lamont> that won't be before mid-next week though.
[21:50]  * lamont consults the schedule
[21:50]  * lamont cries a little.  I guess it'll be Sunday afternoon
[21:50] <lamont> once I review it more
[21:51] <lamont> infinity: bind9 is building now (locally) at which point I'm tossing it at a PPA and getting isc-dhcp behind it, and then it'll hit xenial