[08:27] <Mirv> tsdgeos: did you get to testing 005? autopkgtests were running through the night (but needed manual probing in the morning to continue), seem ok so far
[08:27] <tsdgeos> Mirv: yes, i commented on the bug
[08:27] <Mirv> oh
[08:28] <Mirv> tsdgeos: thanks! I've good e-mail bug filtering but it doesn't help if I mentally ignore it somehow.
[08:31] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i had the fix for qmltestrunner.PreviewView::test_title yesterday but failed to push it ^_^
[08:40] <mzanetti> heh :)
[09:41] <faenil> Saviq: the non-selected indicators are almost invisible when the panel is open...is that intended?
[10:23] <Laney> hey mterry, looks like stgraber took care of that for you now
[11:07] <TheRealJohnGalt> On my ubuntu touch installation (15.04), I'm running into the following error while trying to run an app (hangups). I don't believe this is an app issue however: https://i.imgur.com/b2RgYJv.png
[11:07] <TheRealJohnGalt> Is there a different python package I should be installing, or a config I should edit to properly load the lib?
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> TheRealJohnGalt: maybe file a new bug? the bug link is in the topic
[11:18] <popey> TheRealJohnGalt: you shouldn't have to insatll python at all
[11:18] <popey> TheRealJohnGalt: it should be inside the application
[11:19] <TheRealJohnGalt> hm, okay
[11:19] <popey> TheRealJohnGalt: I just told the developer
[11:20] <TheRealJohnGalt> oh wow, ty popey.
[11:21] <popey> np
[11:22] <oSoMoN> hey all, I updated my phone to the latest rc-proposed earlier this morning, and dekko wasn’t there any longer, and I’d swear I didn’t uninstall it myself. known issue?
[11:25] <TheRealJohnGalt> oSoMoN: I just upgraded rc-proposed and had to reinstall it from the app store.
[11:25] <popey> oSoMoN: it was mistakenly added to the image
[11:25] <TheRealJohnGalt> ah.
[11:26] <oSoMoN> popey, but that shouldn’t uninstall a version that was manually installed it the past, right?
[11:26] <popey> oh, I'd hope not.
[11:26] <DanChapman> oh! so Dekko's getting removed for everyone on rc-proposed. Surely that's a bug
[11:26] <popey> Yes, that would be a bug
[11:26]  * popey checks his phone
[11:26] <popey> Yes, it's gone from mine.
[11:27] <popey> paging sil2100
[11:27] <sil2100> Oh oh
[11:27] <popey> "click-list | grep dekko" returns nothing
[11:28] <sil2100> Ok, so we have a bug - I removed it from the rootfs since it got added there by 'mistake' but that shouldn't uninstall all the manually installed ones
[11:28] <popey> what would _do_ that!?
[11:28] <oSoMoN> that’s a nasty bug
[11:28] <sil2100> Very nasty
[11:28] <sil2100> hmmm
[11:28] <popey> I'll file it now.
[11:28] <sil2100> We need to have a bug for that srsly
[11:29] <sil2100> popey: thanks
[11:30] <sil2100> eh, sorry about that, I had no idea something like that would happen, not sure WHY it would happen
[11:31] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1558032
[11:33] <popey> that should probably have a relatively high priority :)
[11:33] <mcphail> I've had this happen with the terminal app, when falshing different channels
[11:33] <popey> oooh!
[11:33] <sil2100> ;/
[11:34] <mcphail> Thought it was a "feature" ;)
[11:34] <sil2100> mcphail: ;p
[11:34] <popey> 1984
[11:35] <ogra_> just sell it as a feature "we care about your diskspace" :)
[11:35] <popey> we don't care about your bandwidth
[11:36] <ogra_> bandwith is cheap :P
[11:40] <popey> Yours might be :)
[11:40] <aarib> can you tell what devices are supported by ubuntu touch?
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> !devices
[11:41] <aarib> what exactly does emulator arm and emulator x86 mean
[11:41] <popey> the emulator is basically qemu (software) for running ubuntu touch on your desktop in a window
[11:41] <popey> armhf means it emulates an arm cpu (so slow)
[11:42] <popey> and x86 means it emulates an intel/amd cpu (so slightly less slow)
[11:43] <aarib> ok
[11:43] <aarib> thank you
[11:56] <krijn_> When will the rc-proposed channel be based on xenial? (like the devel-proposed right now?)
[12:01] <popey> krijn_: good question! some time after 16.04 is released I imagine
[12:02] <krijn_> I supposed so, but you never know ;)
[12:12]  * ogra_ guesses rather around the 16.10 timeframe
[12:16] <popey> will that be when we switch to snappy too?
[12:20] <davmor2> krijn_: iirc the plan is to get xenial out and upgrade depending on the amount of work and timing the ota after release or ota after that. but mostly will be played by ear after xenial is released.
[12:26] <ogra_> popey, for sure we'll be switching to the snappy packaging format by then ... wether the system will already be snappy i dont know (porting everything to systemd etc)
[12:27] <ogra_> with the next big iteration i think that click packages will definitely die
[12:30] <krijn_> the annoying thing is that it doens't seem to be possible to run things like play.spotify.com or google docs in the mobile browser
[12:31] <krijn_> Ubuntu Phone would be very useful if I could run stuff like that. Now it constantly thinks - also when using the browser full screen - that we're dealing with a mobile browser, so editing in google docs is not possible (anymore, it used to be possible) now it wants you to download the android app
[12:31] <krijn_> so, I was looking for a way to change the user agent, so I could fool those web apps.
[12:32] <ogra_> use the webapp-container then
[12:32] <ogra_> it is pretty easy to mangle the UA with it
[12:33] <krijn_> okI tried that, but it says there's no screen defined
[12:33] <ogra_> ?
[12:33] <ogra_> on the phone ?
[12:34]  * ahayzen wonders if there are plans to be able to switch the UA from within the webbrowser itself
[12:34] <krijn_> jup, on the phone
[12:34] <ogra_> krijn_, where do you see that ? in the log of your click package ?
[12:35] <krijn_> it works on my computer though
[12:35] <krijn_> wait, I just switched it off ;)
[12:37] <ogra_> the click package should care for all this .... (or rather the ubuntu-app-launcher that execs the line from the .desktop file where you define the UA as option to the webapp container binary)
[12:39] <krijn_> I get: UbuntuClientIntegration: connection to Mir server failed. Check that a Mir server is running, and the correct socket is being used and is accessible. The shell may have rejected the incoming connection, so check its log file Aborted (core dumped)
[12:40] <krijn_> By the way, I'm not a devver, just trying to search for ways to make Ubuntu phone more useful for everyday use without too many hassles
[12:41] <ogra_> krijn_, and wheer do you get that ? is that in the log of your click app ?
[12:41] <krijn_> text obviously from the terminal n the phone
[12:41] <ogra_> ah, that doesnt work
[12:41] <krijn_> ah, i was looking for a way around it already
[12:41] <krijn_> so i can stop searching apparently
[12:41] <ogra_> (well, it does ... there is some way to exec the app launcher manually so you get the right env set up ... but i forgot how)
[12:42] <ogra_> but rolling a click package is trivial for that
[12:44] <ogra_> (you need three text files and an icon in a dir ... then run "click build" inside that dir )
[12:44] <krijn_> but webapp-container https://play.spotify.com on the normal cli works like a charm
[12:44] <ogra_> on the phone ?
[12:44] <krijn_> no, on ubuntu desktop
[12:44] <ogra_> yeah, totally different setup
[12:44] <krijn_> butwait, now there are 2 things mixing up
[12:45] <ogra_> phone systemsd need to be way more restrictive
[12:45] <ogra_> *systems
[12:46] <ogra_> https://developer.ubuntu.com/webapp-generator/
[12:46] <ogra_> try this
[12:47] <krijn_> thanks, i was just working through it ;)
[12:56] <krijn_> hmmm. unfortunately it doesn't work so simple
[12:59] <krijn_> like: spotify is in a container and if you want to login, it opens a web browser in which spotify has already logged in ,but because the app is sanboxed, it doesn't know.. anyway, this doesnt work unfortunately. Unless.. i can change the user agent from within the click-file
[13:02] <ogra_> thats a limitation of that webtool you used to create the package
[13:03] <ogra_> you can define proper pattern matching so that the pw request is inside the container
[13:03] <ogra_> but i think the web tool doesnt allow that
[13:06] <krijn_> I suppose thats something in the Desktop Entry part or apparmor?
[13:06] <ogra_> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/web/ubuntu-webapps-guide/ ... see the "--webappUrlPatterns" option ... the generator only puts the website there by default ...
[13:07] <ogra_> but youz would want the password site there too
[13:07] <krijn_> jup
[13:07] <krijn_> and a different ua
[13:08] <krijn_> anyway, at work now ;) Although it s a bit part of my job finding out how things work.. I m not supposed to write apps during work hours :p
[13:10] <ogra_> create three files like:
[13:10] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15401328/
[13:10] <ogra_> and put an icon.png next to them ...
[13:11] <ogra_> then just run "click build" in that dir
[13:26] <krijn_> hm... that is almost the same to what the online app builds
[13:33] <ogra_> krijn_, except that you can edit the webapp-container commandline in the .desktop file freely now
[13:34] <ogra_> (to add UA override and patterns)
[13:34] <krijn_> ah, ic :) well, next search: ua override and patterns ;)
[13:43] <davidcalle> krijn_: one thing that's not in the doc yet is the "--enable-media-hub-audio" option which will allow your webapp to play music even if it's not in the foregound
[13:44] <krijn_> THAT is good news! :)
[13:45] <krijn_> anyway, i should dive into this tonight or so :)
[13:45] <davidcalle> krijn_: that will be added to the online generator with other options in the near future. In any case, have fun :)
[13:46] <krijn_> thank you davidcalle and ogra_
[14:08] <robin-hero> hey all
[14:08] <robin-hero> where can I find the crash log on my device?
[14:15] <dobey> there isn't a "crash log" exactly. crashes tend to dump output to /var/crash which whoopsie uploads though. you can go to the privacy settings in system-settings and it has a link to all the crashes your phone has uploaded
[14:23] <robin-hero> dobey, thanks, i'm looking for the Here maps crash log
[14:31] <popey> there's also ~/.cache/upstart where many applications spit out logs robin-hero
[15:08] <faenil> devel
[15:08] <faenil> oops :)
[17:07] <dobey> oSoMoN: is there a way to clear the Ubuntu.Web Webview widget, so that it's blank and loadProgress is reset?
[17:29] <krijn_> so, it turns out that when building web apps and assiging different user agent strings, you can do a lot more :)(
[17:30] <krijn_> unfortunately it turned out Spotify still silently uses flash somewhere... :(
[17:30] <krijn_> google drive works like a charm
[17:30] <dobey> yeah, amazon music uses flash too i think :-/
[17:31] <krijn_> I thought Spotify web stopped using it a while ago...
[17:32] <krijn_> the annoying thing is when you use convergence and a bt keyboard, the on screen keyboard pops up on the phone (not a big deal) and the spell correction starts to kick in, things don't work so smooth anymore
[17:33] <krijn_> after turning it off, google docs works really well on a Nexus 4, pretty amazed
[17:42] <krijn_> and the --enable-media-hub-audio works good as well
[17:48] <oSoMoN> dobey, set url to "about:blank" ?
[17:49] <dobey> oSoMoN: how can i do that when pushing the back button on a pagestack? also, doing that doesn't reset loadProgress to 0, which is also what i want to happen
[17:50] <dobey> oSoMoN: basically what i want, is to reset all the state of the widget
[17:50] <dobey> i guess there's no way to do that though?
[17:51] <oSoMoN> dobey, no, but why do you need loadProgress to be 0 ?
[17:51] <oSoMoN> dobey, if you’re displaying some sort of progress bar, you could make it conditionally visible on the "loading" property
[17:52] <dobey> because using the loading property doesn't seem to work right, so i changed it to use "loadProgress != 100"
[17:52] <dobey> but the main issue is that the previously loaded page is still shwogn
[17:52] <dobey> shown
[17:53] <dobey> oSoMoN: this is pay-ui btw, not a webapp
[17:53] <dobey> so trying to avoid having the "add a card" page being shown immediately before the paypal page, when certain actions are taken by the user
[17:54] <dobey> and vice versa
[18:05] <oSoMoN> dobey, how about setting the webview’s visible property to false?
[18:06] <dobey> hmm
[20:18] <mterry> kenvandine: can you pop into #ubuntu-unity?
[20:18] <kenvandine> sure