[07:52] <ochosi> bluesabre, knome: thanks for the UIFe!
[08:10] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: morning - didn't expect to see you this early - do you want to get call to 'users' ready to roll for the final beta next week for us
[08:13] <flocculant> they'll need some basic info - perhaps point to the http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/qa-tester.html page (not there yet but it will be)
[08:54] <akxwi-dave> flocculant, Morning, aye left the pc running at work with hechat running, couldnt be bothered to turn it off... :-)
[08:54] <akxwi-dave> Yep, will gladly do the all to Users.. what sort of size do you want for it
[10:02] <xubuntu74d>  hello, i have discovered a bug in Xubuntu 16.04 beta 1, but it's a bug with a package, and only happens when I use btrfs, and I don't know how to report it
[10:10] <xubuntu74d> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/1557989
[10:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1557989 in intel-microcode (Ubuntu) "having btrfs installed as the fs is causing a crash when trying to install the intel-microcode package" [Undecided,New]
[11:41] <bluesabre> ochosi, flocculant: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/2.1.2-0ubuntu1
[12:31] <ochosi> bluesabre: nice!
[12:54] <flocculant> bluesabre: thanks :)
[12:56] <flocculant> also see we have shimmer themeseses back \o/
[13:01] <ochosi> wooot!
[13:01] <ochosi> rly?
[13:01] <flocculant> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/03/16/%23ubuntu-motu.html#t11:03
[13:02] <flocculant> ochosi: ^^ and also I'd stand in the room cheering bluesabre on for DMB :)
[14:25] <ochosi> flocculant: indeed :)
[15:09] <ali1234> http://i.imgur.com/ivE7I89.png - why is there a question mark?
[15:13] <ochosi> ali1234: i guess the orage devs were uncertain of the quality of their product ;)
[15:13] <ali1234> that is certainly the impression it gives. and yes, it is in the upstream source
[15:14] <ali1234> i'll report it on bugzilla.xfce.org
[15:44] <ali1234> ochosi: the panel switch UI looks really nice btw
[15:47] <ali1234> suggestion: the Gnome 2 configuration should include a Settings menu like mine :)
[16:50] <akxwi-dave> Is the "Incompltete Language support" window on today's ISO supposed to be there as a feature?
[17:13] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: not that I know of - in the live session? 
[17:13] <akxwi-dave> flocculant, no after install..
[17:14] <flocculant> ok - that's at least better than I imagined :p
[17:14] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[17:14] <flocculant> I've only seen that if I couldn't be assed to wait for the installer to grab bits and told it skip 
[17:14] <akxwi-dave> right time for home.. bbl
[17:24] <pavlushka> addressing an issue, the initrd.img of 16.04 is almost double in size than 14.04 usual initrd.img, so it takes longer to load, atleast in my case.
[17:26] <flocculant> yes
[17:26] <flocculant> but usual isn't right
[17:26] <pavlushka> but its a bit unresting.
[17:27] <pavlushka> ok.
[17:27] <flocculant> the usual size in 16.04 is about what it is
[17:28] <pavlushka> 36.1 MB
[17:28] <flocculant> yea
[17:28] <flocculant> not an issue 
[17:28] <flocculant> that's what it is
[17:28] <pavlushka> Its taking longer to load than 14.04
[17:28] <flocculant> not here
[17:29] <pavlushka> may that's in my case with a marginal pc.
[17:29] <flocculant> anyway - that might be an issue for *you* 
[17:30] <pavlushka> i am facing the difference, due to my configuration then.
[17:31] <flocculant> yea - entirely possible - not an issue for *us* as a team - and the kernel is certainly nothing to do with us - we use what Ubuntu does :)
[17:32] <pavlushka> yeah, got it, no one cares about the poor.
[17:32] <flocculant> try lubuntu then
[17:32] <pavlushka> you'll tell me to use lubuntu now, i know it.
[17:33] <pavlushka> and you did
[17:33] <flocculant> not that it'll make much difference to the kernel afaik
[17:34] <flocculant> not sure if they do anything different kernel wise
[18:46] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: can't confirm the language support
[21:58] <Nairwolf> hi guys, I've spent some days away from a computer. I'm reading my e-mails, and I've seen flocculant talks about package. I will start tests tomorrow. what's new ? 
[22:10] <knome> nothing specific right now, it's just time to test the packages
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[22:16] <Nairwolf> ok, and what's new if the wallpaper contest ? 
[22:19] <knome> "if" ?
[22:20] <Nairwolf> oh, sorry, "with". Is it officialy launched ? 
[22:20] <knome> not yet
[22:20] <knome> we'll announce it on the mailing list, website and much more; you can't miss it
[22:30] <Nairwolf> ok, nice ;)
[22:32] <bluesabre> flocculant, ochosi: :D
[22:32] <bluesabre> rare instance where I was productive
[22:34]  * Unit193 steals the credit.
[22:37]  * bluesabre gives the credit away
[22:37] <bluesabre> knome, slickymaster: ready for that -docs upload?
[22:38] <knome> yes i think so
[22:55]  * bluesabre packages xubuntu-docs
[23:00] <Unit193> PDF builds work?
[23:01] <knome> should.
[23:06] <bluesabre> looks like slickymaster added some changelogs to the previous package release
[23:06] <bluesabre> I'll fix and provide a branch to merge
[23:12] <bluesabre> ok, slickymaster merged some changes that flocculant pushed
[23:12] <bluesabre> :)
[23:18] <ochosi> ali1234: good to hear :) well feel free to submit a pull request about the gnome2 setup, we're totally open to improvements/suggestions there
[23:19] <knome> o hai ochosi 
[23:20] <bluesabre> hey ochosi
[23:20] <ochosi> evening all
[23:20] <ochosi> just checking in and checking out
[23:20] <knome> :)
[23:21] <bluesabre> nothing to see here (I think)
[23:21] <knome> lol
[23:28] <ochosi> bluesabre: btw, nice and extremely simple patch for xfce4-panel to support the primary monitor setting: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9338
[23:28] <ubottu> bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9338 in Panel "Support for RandR's "primary monitor"" [Enhancement,New]
[23:28] <ochosi> i've tested it, if you feel you have the energy for another FFe i'd say go for that 
[23:29] <bluesabre> ochosi: cool
[23:29] <ochosi> (since i don't expect another 4.12 panel release anytime soon)
[23:29] <bluesabre> yeah
[23:29] <bluesabre> stick around for a quick sec
[23:29]  * bluesabre digs through logs
[23:30] <bluesabre> ochosi: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15379748/ is what remains of the xfpm patch when tweaked for 1.4.4
[23:30] <bluesabre> look reasonable?
[23:34] <ochosi> yeah, looks reasonable
[23:34] <ochosi> doing a test with it wouldn't hurt
[23:35] <ochosi> but it's likely better than what we have now with 1.4.4 (which is a fairly big leak)
[23:35] <knome> test? did you mean to ping flocculant 
[23:38] <ochosi> well basically just install a patched version and leave your computer (with the xfpm panel plugin in your panel) and look whether it leaks
[23:39] <ochosi> with leaving it on i'm thinking about a day or so
[23:39] <ochosi> just not rebooting should be enough
[23:39] <ochosi> although i think you might need a laptop, otherwise the leak is not as obvious/aggressive (iirc the state changes in the battery keep updating the icon and that - and a little more - is leaked)
[23:40] <bluesabre> knome: uploaded, merge at https://code.launchpad.net/~bluesabre/xubuntu-docs/16.04.1/+merge/289311
[23:40] <bluesabre> ochosi: alrighty, I'll apply it and drop it in -staging for now for folks to be able to test
[23:40] <knome> bluesabre, yeah
[23:40] <ochosi> perfect, thanks bluesabre 
[23:40] <ochosi> night everyone!
[23:40] <bluesabre> night ochosi
[23:41] <knome> nighty simon
[23:43] <knome> bluesabre, merged
[23:43] <bluesabre> knome: thanks!