[09:52] <xubuntu74d> hello, i have discovered a bug in Xubuntu 16.04 beta 1, but it's a bug with a package, and only happens when I use btrfs, and I don't know how to report it
[09:57] <xubuntu38w> hi friends
[09:57] <salamanka> hi
[09:58] <xubuntu38w> today i change password and do resume
[09:58] <xubuntu38w> after xubuntu cant login
[09:58] <xubuntu38w> just show guest sesıon
[09:59] <xubuntu38w> guest sessıon ask password
[09:59] <xubuntu38w> i try something but can login
[09:59] <xubuntu38w> how i can fix that
[10:00] <xubuntu38w> anyone have some idea
[10:00] <xubuntu38w> thanks
[10:00] <akxwi-dave> xubuntu74d, heres a good link showing how to report the bug https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[10:01] <xubuntu74d> akxwi-dave: already tried it, but there seems to be no clear way to report a bug that isn't happening through one of the 'accepted' paths...
[10:02] <akxwi-dave> xubuntu74d, also you may want to join channel #xubuntu-devel that where  most of the team are regarding bugs.
[10:02] <xubuntu74d> thanks
[10:02] <akxwi-dave> you can advise what the bug is there and the QA team can report it for you if your having probs
[10:10] <xubuntu74d> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/1557989
[13:46] <dan_s28> morning
[14:57] <slee> hello, what's the best/preferd app for doing a complete image backup of your current OS/setup?
[14:58] <slee> i've found this sBackup...wondering if any of you use it
[15:08] <akxwi-dave> persoanlly for backups I use Dejadup  but complete imaging I use Clonezilla
[15:08] <dkessel> slee: i'd use clonezilla for complete images, just as akxwi-dave
[15:09] <slee> sweet, thanks
[15:37] <dreamon> how do I switch off standby in amount of time
[17:00] <slee> hello, a friend is using an ssd for xubuntu box, is there anything special that she needs to do to maintain an ssd? like conditioning(or whatever the term is called)?
[17:01] <slee> she said it's multi layered cell....if that helps
[17:03] <akxwi-dave> I use my ssd as a regular drive, I don't do anything special with it or for it. *buntus run trim automatically once a week to keep it in check
[17:04] <akxwi-dave> infact its the best thing I have ever done.. my SSD and Lenovo thinkpad boot to logon scenn in aroudn 2-3 secoonds
[17:13] <slee> akxwi-dave, so xubuntu acknowledges the ssd and auto does trim, or does trim need to be activated via a cron job?
[17:14] <akxwi-dave> auto does it..
[17:14] <slee> thanks
[17:16] <flocculant> I've got fstrim in /etc/cron.weekly/ by default
[20:30] <ROPA> Hi, running xubuntu 14.04, I deleted my lower panel (panel 0), because I prefer an added (vertical) side panel instead. But, the upper panel disappeared instead, so no clock, open application listings, workspace switcher etc. The software still displays the lower horizontal panel even though I deleted it!!!! Can I restore the upper panel without reinstalling the OS?
[20:31] <ROPA> Is there a way to restore the original settings with regard to the panel(s)??
[20:37] <thenewone> Hi
[20:37] <thenewone> guys i tryed to restart the network but didn't work
[20:37] <thenewone> how can i force to stop it
[20:37] <flocculant> ROPA: you can just rebuild it - add panel, then add the things to it you want
[20:37] <thenewone> and thanks
[20:37] <thenewone> i wanna stop it
[20:38] <thenewone> i did service networking stop didn't work
[20:39] <ROPA> flocculant, I thought about rebuilding it, but it would take me hours to get everything just right.
[20:39] <flocculant> ROPA: why? what did you have in it?
[20:40] <flocculant> rather what had you done to the default one - that would take less than 5 minutes to redo :)
[20:40] <ROPA> flocculant, I had just the stock upper panel, with a modified clock to show seconds...
[20:41] <ROPA> I am not familiar enough with the panel options, so it would take me MUCH longer.
[20:41] <ROPA> flocculant, I am not familiar enough with the panel options, so it would take me MUCH longer.
[20:41] <flocculant> ok ... so that's not going to take hours :) go to settings - panel - at the top the plus button will add the panel
[20:41] <ROPA> did it.
[20:42] <ROPA> flocculant, if that's my only option, I'
[20:42] <flocculant> can't remember what's in the default 14.04 panel - can check in a vm for you
[20:42] <flocculant> unless someone'#s watching with a default panel of course
[20:43] <thenewone> when i kill NetworkManager it back to run a gain
[20:43] <ROPA> flocculant, a list of what's in the stock panel would be very helpful!!!
[20:43] <flocculant> ROPA: yea - won't take long to get that
[20:44] <thenewone> ok guys have a nice day
[20:44] <ROPA> many thanks my friend.....if not for a list, I suspect I could reinstall the whole OS quicker!!
[20:44] <ROPA> thenewone, wish I could help u!
[20:46] <flocculant> ROPA: ok - 3 screenshots of the setups > http://i.imgur.com/m1dChH4.png http://i.imgur.com/BURGNGK.png and http://i.imgur.com/Zw8zxxT.png
[20:47] <ROPA> flocculant, l nice, many thanks my friend!!
[20:47] <flocculant> the last one to get them - click the + icon on the right hand side
[20:47] <flocculant> gives you a list to choose from
[20:49] <ROPA> flocculant, I have built custom panels using mostly shortcuts to existing features and software. I guess i learned a lesson.....DO NOT DELETE THE STOCK DEFAULT PANEL!!!!
[20:51] <ROPA> flocculant, one question....what do I add to have the programs currently running???
[20:51] <flocculant> ROPA: post 15.10 we have xfpanel-switch - a backup and restore panel tool :) http://i.imgur.com/9zobQah.png
[20:51] <flocculant> it has some presets too
[20:51] <knome> ROPA, window buttons
[20:52]  * flocculant deletes what he'd typed ... 
[20:52] <flocculant> I never remember that - just that I delete it :p
[20:52] <ROPA> flocculant, ok, thanks again!!! I almost installed 15.10....but decided to stick with the LTS version!!!
[20:52] <flocculant> :)
[20:52] <knome> flocculant, i use it without labels, good enough for me
[20:53] <flocculant> yup
[20:53] <ROPA> Gonna go see if I can make it work, again, thanks!!!!
[20:53] <flocculant> welcome
[21:33] <ROPA> flocculant, a big +++ thanks to you for the help. As it turns out, the stock panel isn't as good as it could be!! I ended up making a custom panel anyway and it's better than it has ever been!!! It took lots 'o diddling, but it was time well spent!!!
[21:34] <knome> he went to bed but will read your message tomorrow
[21:34] <knome> and glad you got stuff working better for you
[21:35] <knome> that's one of the main ideas in xubuntu
[21:35] <ROPA> knome, ok, great!!! Only thing I cant figure out is how to get the clock to also display the day of the week and the date.
[21:35] <knome> there are a few different applets that show the clock
[21:35] <ROPA> knome, I tried orage clock and the stock clock.
[21:36] <knome> but generally speaking, right-click the clock applet and go to properties
[21:36] <ROPA> knome, I can live without it however:>
[21:36] <knome> you can definitely get the week and date showing on all of them
[21:37] <ROPA> kn, yep, did that. The configuration appears to show that date and day of the week are enabled, but nothing in the display.
[21:37] <knome> are you sure you aren't looking at the tooltip dropdown?
[21:37] <ROPA> knome, the tooltip isn't the correct option to edit???
[21:38] <knome> the tooltip is what you see when you hover over the clock applet
[21:38] <knome> you need to change the format under clock options
[21:38] <knome> (that is, on the clock applet)
[21:38] <ROPA> knome, I was trying to edit the tooltip, back to the drawing board, tnx nudge in the right direction.
[21:38] <knome> np
[21:40] <ROPA> knome ok, I cant locate the 'clock options'........
[21:41] <ROPA> knome,  I right click on the clock applet and then click properties.....
[21:41] <knome> which xubuntu version are you running again?
[21:41] <ROPA> 14.04
[21:41] <knome> right, maybe it's added later
[21:41] <knome> my favorite clock applet is the "DateTime" applet
[21:42] <ROPA> ok, that's possible.
[21:44] <ROPA> knome, ok, DateTime applet not available for 14.04.
[21:45] <ROPA> knome, I expect I'll survive::> Tnx so much!
[21:47] <knome> ROPA, sudo apt-get install xfce4-datetime-plugin
[21:51] <ROPA> knome,  neat, didn't even realize there were applets for download!!!!
[21:55] <ROPA> knome, got it set up now! NICE AP!\
[21:56] <knome> :)
[22:39] <Ellsworth> !bands
[22:39] <Ellsworth> er wrong channel