[02:11] <mamarley> Heads-up to anyone running Xenial: APT 1.2.7 breaks most/all PPAs and other third-party repositories.  If you want to keep using the Kubuntu PPAs, you might want to hold apt, apt-utils, apt-transport-https, libapt-inst2.0, and libapt-pkg5.0.
[02:11] <mamarley> It is currently in Proposed though.
[02:24] <mamarley> It is apparently because APT 1.2.7 doesn't allow the use of SHA1 for anything, but breaking so many PPAs isn't OK.  Here's the bug I opened if anyone is interested: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1558331.
[02:45] <dax> mamarley: Is that a Warning or fatal error? https://juliank.wordpress.com/2016/03/15/clarifications-and-updates-on-apt-sha1/ implies it's just a warning...
[09:04] <mparillo> Anybody notice on Xenial a pop-up telling me I have two updates, but Discover finds none, then apt full-upgrade -y finds (this morning) libkf5kdcraw5 libraw15 
[09:29] <Fritigern> I have tried for the better part of the day, but can;t seem to get anyone to answer my question in #kubuntu so I figured i'd take a chance and ask here, since it is dev-related. My question is the following: what debug packages do I need so I can report plasma crashes with debug info?
[09:33] <soee> interesting http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-NLinux-Distro-Rumor
[09:33] <soee> Fritigern: hiho
[09:34] <soee> Fritigern: please join #plasma and ask there :) Plasma developers are the best source for that question :)
[09:34] <Fritigern> Okay
[10:03] <mamarley> dax: On my system it appears to be a fatal error.  It tells me that the repository index could not be downloaded and the old copy will be used.
[10:13] <kfunk> mparillo: I've got problems with those packages as well. I think it's related to a blocked gwenview upgrade apt is keeping back.
[10:19] <mamarley> To unblock the Gwenview upgrade, you can uninstall ksnapshot and install kde-spectacle (which is the replacement for ksnapshot).
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:34] <sgclark> morning
[12:40] <clivejo> good moring sgclark
[12:41] <sgclark> Happy St Patricks day :)
[12:47] <soee> hiho
[12:48] <clivejo> thanks, you too :)
[12:51] <soee> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi2h0vPLCto
[12:53]  * clivejo dances
[12:54]  * clivejo kicks KCI accidently on purpose a number of times
[13:00] <clivejo> only an hour and 5 mins
[13:00] <clivejo> its on fire today
[13:02] <soee> there are good news ... :)
[13:03] <soee> today is the day when Plasma 5.6 tagged :)
[13:03]  * mamarley slaps soee around a bit with a large trout.
[13:04] <clivejo> 457 packages with 16 executors taking an average of an hour, only 28 hours 30mins until it finishes
[13:05] <clivejo> and only 11 hours before it fills the queue again!
[13:05]  * mamarley slaps KCI around a bit with a large trout.
[13:05] <soee> :D
[13:05] <clivejo> it needs more than a slap
[13:08] <soee> http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbn2krmjVJ1ri87b4o1_500.jpg
[13:12] <yofel> hm, ok. We have a problem I guess..
[13:13] <yofel> <3 grumpycat
[13:13] <sgclark> lol
[13:17] <soee> yofel: did you staged 15.12.3 maybe ?
[13:17] <yofel> no
[13:17] <soee> oki :)
 Sgclark was talking about staging 15.12.3 ?
[14:04] <sgclark> soee: yofel: clivejo: yes I did last night as promised. But I still need to work on two manual etc.
[14:40] <soee> sgclark: so it is staged ?
[14:41] <sgclark> staged - not done
[14:41] <soee> ah that is why status page is not rendered right ?
[14:42]  * sgclark always forgets that
[14:55] <sgclark> lol ok so ppa-build-status spewed out a ton of html at me... yofel clivejo how does one generate that report these days?
[14:57] <yofel> sgclark: you edit the config file in automation, push, and let the cronjob take care of the rest
[14:57] <yofel> other than that, the html *is* your status page
[15:03] <sgclark> well yeah, but more that just me might want to see it :)
[15:03] <sgclark> ok looking for this config file
[15:06] <sgclark> oh well as usual I cannot push to that. yofel or clivejo needs to update status page.
[15:06] <yofel> pastebin error message please
[15:07] <sgclark> https://paste.kde.org/pzrdrnfd4
[15:07] <BluesKaj> when is system settings as root going to accept the font, icon and colour settings I choose so I can read the fonts and text from 10ft away like I can with normal user settings?
[15:08] <sgclark> BluesKaj: we cannot help you there. try #plasma though you will likely get backlash for running gui as root
[15:09] <yofel> sgclark: launchpad does not support push over https
[15:09] <yofel> you'll need to rewrite your remote
[15:10] <BluesKaj> this is becoming really annoying, for example the partition editor fonts are too small to read becuae it takes on the root sysemsettings for fonts and colours etc.
[15:10] <yofel> sgclark: this should work:
[15:11] <yofel> git remote remove origin
[15:11] <yofel> git remote add origin git+ssh://sgclark@git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation
[15:11] <yofel> git branch -u origin/master
[15:12] <sgclark> error: the requested upstream branch 'origin/master' does not exist
[15:12] <yofel> oh, I forgot the 'git fetch' before that
[15:13] <sgclark> good now, thanks yofel
[15:14] <yofel> sgclark: you want to setup this https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git#Configuring_Git
[15:14] <sgclark> ok
[15:48] <BluesKaj> solvbed my problem by installing gparted, at least it follows the rules set for GTK fonts in user system settings 
[15:50] <sgclark> BluesKaj: so if gparted behaved in the way you expect, I reckon partitionmanager actually has the bug, and unless reported upstream will never change.
[15:50] <sgclark> justsaying
[15:52] <BluesKaj> sgclark, yes you're correct, there is a bug filed for partition manager launching as root, but it doesn't seem to be considered very importnt 
[15:54] <BluesKaj> you also rigt about their response to my complaint ...don't run system settings /partition manager as root :-)
[15:54] <BluesKaj> sgclark,^
[15:54] <sgclark> lol
[15:54] <sgclark> well i understand what you are saying now though, partition manager has to run as root
[15:55] <sgclark> or it can't really partition
[15:55] <sgclark> so at the kdesu switch over I think is where it needs to retain user settings.
[15:55] <sgclark> if I were a programmer I would fix, alas I am not.
[15:56] <BluesKaj> yesd but it should take on the plasma look that the user sets up in system settings
[15:56] <sgclark> yes it should I agree. it is a bug
[17:10] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[17:10] <_Groo_> guys how can i upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 devel?
 sgclark: Jenkins question
[17:10] <_Groo_> do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE -d
[17:11] <_Groo_> the oficial way says it doesnt have any packages available
[17:11] <sgclark> in a meeting
 If I have jenkins chain of jobs to build a package / system, and some of those build jobs are the same, is there a way to re-use the individual build jobs, in another chain? Janet at work suggested the Join Plugin, any advice on what to use ?
 Sgclark did you upload to apps staging?
[18:23] <sgclark> oh hahahahah. forgot to upload to the ppa...
[18:27]  * sick_rimmit waves
[18:29] <sgclark> hi sick_rimmit I am trying to answer your question. Probably not want you want to hear because we (KDE) do not use jenkins to obtain artifacts (I think what you want?)
 @Sick_Rimmit we use python script to rsync our deps artifacts to a build as we have lots (KDE) In fact that python script runs most of the build. Maybe you can copy the artifacts somewhere and retrieve later ?  Via some plugin?
[18:33] <sick_rimmit> Ah ha, it seems that the word artifacts may well be the very clue that we are looking for.
[18:33]  * sick_rimmit Smiles and gives thanks
[18:34] <sick_rimmit> yofel: I have updated my public keys on lp
[18:40] <sick_rimmit> Does anyone know if it is possible to see the Most Active member in an lp team over say the last month. e.g I am would like to see who is the most active in Kubuntu Bugs over the last month ?
[18:43] <sgclark> sick_rimmit: https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa at bottom
[18:43] <sgclark> Flames_in_Paradise is our superstar. They do not like IRC and not in here
[18:46] <sgclark> in fact... (he?) is not even a Kubuntu Member and should be!
[18:48] <soee> 15.12.3 starts to how green :D
[19:36] <yofel> sick_rimmit: keys updated
 /me tries to log into docs.kubuntu.org again
 @Yofel ok so the html files are in my account but where is the scripts
[19:43] <yofel> run 'sudo -u kubuntu -i', then cd to docs/
 what if I don't know my sudo pw?
[19:43] <yofel> en -> /home/kubuntu/docs/kubuntu-manual/build/html/
[19:43] <yofel> is what's currently displayed on the website
[19:43] <sick_rimmit> Tada I'm logged in
[19:44] <sick_rimmit> Some weird looking top konsole
[19:44] <yofel> that is top
[19:44] <yofel> just a custom view
 can you reset the passwd @Yofel ?
[19:44] <yofel> @athoneycutt, your password is now 'pass' - please change it ;)
 k thanks!
[19:46] <yofel> please don't do experiments with the live build of the docs. Rather make a new clone and later just recreate the symlink
 changed
 oh
 I was going to update with changes that the students made during Code-In
[19:47] <yofel> ok, then maybe just make a backup of the build folder
[19:48] <yofel> just to be on the safe side
 @Yofel help :)
[19:48] <yofel> yeeees...?
 not sure how you have this setup
 making the backup and I'll do the changes
[19:49] <yofel> the setup is:
[19:49] <yofel> server shows /home/kubuntu/docs/en
[19:49] <yofel> en points to /home/kubuntu/docs/kubuntu-manual/build/html/
[19:49] <yofel> where kubuntu-manual is the clone of the repo
[19:50] <yofel> I think the build was simply done using the Makefile
 yea "make html"
 so cp build build-backup?
[19:50] <yofel> right, just found that in the history
[19:50] <yofel> yup, cp -r
 -r?
[19:50] <yofel> recursive
 for dir?
[19:51] <yofel> right
 recursive?
[19:51] <yofel> you need recursive for directories
 ok so there is build and build-backup
 clear to make changes?
[19:52] <yofel> yup, go ahead
 any way for the kde wiki to show every change in a set time?
 and not by sections?
 git it
 *got it
 @y
 @Yofel make html is not working in kubuntu-manual
 weird
 now it worked
 I remember having to fiddle around with sphinx for a while until I got it to build... but it should work fine now
 yea
 just updated the welcome page and some copyright versions
 updated my changes file to reflect
 so cp build to where @Yofel ?
 like you said symlinks though
 You shouldn't have to update anything, the symlink points to the build result
 so where do I cp the build dir to?
 nowhere
 ohhh
 I see the changes
 awesome stuff @Yofel thanks!
 yw
 I'm using 16.04.0 for version numbers atm
 we'll updated with point release
 the best thing to have is LTS docs and current docs thoguh
 *though
 but one thing at a time :)
[20:12] <yofel> exactly
 one thing at a time?
 damn kde wiki bar is getting in my way
[20:16] <yofel> I meant the seperate docs (in the future)
 yea Xubuntu does it very well
[20:25] <MichaelP> is there a ppa yet for plasma 5.6 ( 5.5.95 ) ?
[20:26] <clivejo> MichaelP: no, not yet
[20:30] <MichaelP> clivejo: ok was just wondering been running it on arch... Came across 5.6 for netrunner ... https://launchpad.net/~netrunner-os/+archive/ubuntu/netrunner-15-ci-updates/+index?batch=75&memo=75&start=75
[20:31] <clivejo> MichaelP: yeah, we are having to put more effort into Xenial 16.04 as its a LTS
[20:31] <clivejo> so 5.6 is on the back burner for now
[20:31] <clivejo> any major changes to it?
[20:32] <MichaelP> so moreless 16.04 being an LTS .. 5.6 won't be thought of until 16.10
[20:33] <clivejo> it will be backported
[20:33] <clivejo> but due to the Ubuntu release schedule we have passed the freeze
[20:34] <clivejo> so only bug fix releases of 5.5.X can be put in
[20:35] <MichaelP> so when 16.04 is released it going to be  plasma 5.5.5 instead of 5.4.3 updating to 5.5.4
[20:36] <clivejo> well plasma 5.5.4 is in the archive
[20:36] <clivejo> and 5.5.5 is being worked on
[20:37] <MichaelP> im running 5.5.5 with 5.4 mainline kernel
[20:37] <clivejo> on xenial?
[20:37] <MichaelP> 4.5 mainline kernel
[20:37] <MichaelP> 16.04
[20:37]  * mamarley wishes there was a way to use the mainline kernel download page as a repository.
[20:38] <clivejo> so you are using our plasma staging PPA?
[20:38] <MichaelP> not hard to down 3 packages and install
[20:38] <MichaelP> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma
[20:39] <mamarley> MichaelP: Indeed, but you must manually check for updates and repeat the process for each box.  I have a lot of boxes.
[20:39] <MichaelP> looks that way
[20:39] <clivejo> MichaelP: how is it working for you?
[20:40] <MichaelP> mamarley: yes but 4.5.0 is latest
[20:40] <mamarley> I know that.
[20:40] <clivejo> did you run into the ksnapshot issue?
[20:42] <MichaelP> clivejo: the other day everything was running great.... Then i went back to arch... did the kde-unstable repo for 5.6.... Then desided come back to kubuntu... I like graphics quality better.... But like speed of pacman better on package manager
[20:48] <clivejo> there is some issue with apt at the moment in Xenial
[20:50] <clivejo> !info calligra xenial
[20:50] <mamarley> clivejo: It is complaining about insufficient signatures?
[20:51] <MichaelP> I think only issue i had so far was half way thru dist-upgrade.. i opened firefox and system locked.. so had to shutdown from power button.. then run dpkg --configure -a
[20:51] <sick_rimmit> who is Flames_in_Paradise ?
[20:52] <MichaelP> So instead of #kubuntu ... This is channel i want to use for 16.04 right ?
[20:53] <sick_rimmit> MichaelP: Probably not, this is the development channel.
[20:53] <sick_rimmit> For help, and support you probably want #kubunut
[20:54] <sick_rimmit> sorr y#kubuntu
[20:54] <sgclark> sick_rimmit: doesnt do irc, https://launchpad.net/~ellisistfroh Usually contacts me via email with questions/big bugs
[20:54] <yofel> for 16.04, it's #ubuntu+1 for all ubuntu flavors
[20:54] <sick_rimmit> Ah ha, their Bug contribution is spectacular
[20:55] <sgclark> I know right?! we need to get them to apply for membership
[20:55] <MichaelP> i forgot about ubuntu+1
[20:55]  * clivejo reads "Bazaar in five minutes"
[20:57] <MichaelP> all the crap you read about managment of kubuntu... is that all worked out now ?
 crap?
[21:00] <MichaelP> tgBot: about lead person leaving
[21:00] <clivejo> MichaelP: the tgBot is just a relay, IRC <==> Telegram
[21:01] <clivejo> no need to refer to it directly
[21:01] <MichaelP> ohh ok
[21:02] <clivejo> a new thing we are testing :)
[21:05] <MichaelP> reboot my system now... plasma 5.5.5 installed and mainline kernel 4.5.0 .. reboot into those
[21:07] <clivejo> yofel: ping
 alright finished the welcome and installation pages
[21:17] <clivejo> yofel: so I sync'ed calligra bzr branch with archive - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/calligra/revision/135
[21:19] <clivejo> next step merge in my version 2.9.10 in my PPA?
[21:26] <yofel> yes
[21:26] <clivejo> ok dokey
[21:30] <clivejo> oh dear, I dunno how to merge with bzr
[21:30]  * clivejo goes back to reading
[21:36] <clivejo> well that didnt work :(
[21:37] <clivejo> should I use a local git repo to do the merge?
[21:42] <sgclark> clivejo: that is what I do.
[21:42] <sgclark> in case things blow up :)
[21:44] <clivejo> it didnt blow up, but it didnt merge either!
[21:47] <soee_> 2 reds in apps 15.12.3
[21:48] <mparillo> On Xenial with Plasma 5.5.5, I have replaced ksnapshot with kde-spectacle (thanks mamarley), but now the print screen does not work. Is this a bug, or just an artifact that a fresh install will not hit.
[21:49] <clivejo> I have to run spectacle manually from the kick off menu
[21:49]  * valorie is writing to Flames_in_Paradise
[21:50] <valorie> shouldn't we remove ksnapshot from the iso, and replace it with spectacle?
[21:50] <valorie> and also force uninstall ksnapshot on a xenial upgrade?
[21:51] <valorie> mparillo: I've heard that the print-screen shortcut sometimes isn't set
[21:51] <valorie> perhaps we need to be sure to do that in our packaging as well?
[21:51] <valorie> unsure if that's something we control
[21:52] <sgclark> ksnapshot is removed from kubuntu_meta that I did in staging, but I think yofel wanted to go through seed , not sure if he got to that.
[21:52] <sgclark> as for the keybinding, the file exists to bind it, we are not clear on why it is not working.
[21:53] <sgclark> possibly related to stuff being stuck?maybe something important?
[21:59] <clivejo> grrr
[21:59] <clivejo> why is it deleting the archive changelog entries
[22:57] <clivejo> yofel: is there somewhere I can upload this new version of calligra?
[22:58] <clivejo> see if it builds?
[23:05] <clivejo> sgclark: are kdiamond and kopete in manual?
[23:07] <sgclark> yeah, I wont get to them until later sorry, busy.
[23:09] <clivejo> sgclark: is staging misc where I should upload calligra?
[23:11] <sgclark> clivejo: yes that is a good place for that
[23:21] <clivejo> stupid ftp!