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dholbachgood morning07:34
dholbachhola dpm07:44
dpmmorning dholbach07:44
dpmgood morning all07:45
Kiloshi dholbach dpm and all others08:27
dholbachhi Kilos08:27
dpmhi Kilos08:35
dpmdholbach, I wanted to try the notes app on the unity8 session, but it fails to build its .deb package due to autopilot tests failing on build. While we figure out what's wrong with the tests, do you know if there is a way to disable running the tests during the .deb build? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~notes-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/files/head:/debian/08:40
dholbachin debian/rules you could add a target   override_dh_auto_test08:41
dholbachwhich just does nothing08:41
dholbachI think that should be the easiest way (if they're run as part of 'make test' or 'make check')08:41
dpmok, I'll give it a go, thanks!08:43
dholbachlet me know how it goes08:45
czajkowskiAloha08:52
dpmthat worked, thanks dholbach08:57
dholbachawesome08:57
davidcalleMorning o/09:08
willcookehi gang10:49
willcookeI saw some talk the other day about moving the wiki to a new platform.  So, I thought I'd just raise this here....10:49
willcookethe search is utterly useless on the current wiki10:49
willcookeCould we consider replacing it with a Google search box pre-populated (or whatever) with site:wiki.ubuntu.com10:50
popeywhat's wrong with the search?10:52
popey(it's slow, for one)10:52
willcookeit returns results which are, imo, junk10:53
willcookee.g.10:54
popeytsimonq2: i see you editing the wiki freenode->Freenode. It's intentionally "freenode" - that's their branding.10:54
willcookeThe default search action searches page titles10:54
popeyyes, because it's faster.10:55
popeypart of the whole "moin sucks, we should move" I agree :)10:55
willcookelack of sorting is also an issue for me10:56
willcookeanyhoo,10:56
willcookejust sticking my oar in10:56
willcookecarry on10:56
popey 😃10:59
tsimonq2popey: really? wxl didn't seem to correct me... do you need it reverted? (I'm sorry)11:51
* tsimonq2 is a bit confused but it makes sense :)11:53
popeyi already did11:54
tsimonq2okay, thank you, sorry about that :)11:55
popeytsimonq2: https://freenode.net/ see the top of that page. They've always been "freenode"11:55
popeyNo worries, thanks for taking the attention!  ðŸ˜ƒ11:55
tsimonq2:)11:55
tsimonq2popey: hey, I've read that page about 100 times and that was bugging me XD11:56
tsimonq2(not joking about the 100 times though :P)11:56
tsimonq2but I get why it's not Freenode now :)11:57
popeyhaha11:58
tsimonq2popey: ooh, just had an idea, I'll link to freenode's website on the wiki page from the word "freenode," so people who don't use IRC at least get a description of it. :)11:59
popeysadly their website doesn't have a lot of content, they're rewriting it12:00
popeymaybe hang fire till it actually has something useful12:01
tsimonq2alright :)12:02
tsimonq2o/ off to get ready for school, got a bit of homework to finish up ;)12:05
dpmpopey, davidcalle, mhall119, when you've got a minute, could you add the times you're available for the docs team meeting to doodle? http://doodle.com/poll/dqsryhnkfwgantb212:27
dpm(thanks!)12:27
popeyya12:30
popeydone12:31
knomehey dpm12:33
dpmhey knome o/12:33
knomei have a few questions about the agenda which i didn't want to just add to the pad12:34
dpmsure12:34
knomeso i guess it's fair to talk about the tasks for 16.04, even though it's a bit late at this point (doc string freeze gone and all)12:34
knomebut i wouldn't say the 16.10 roadmap is very important12:34
knomeor in other words, i don't know what you are trying to achieve by talking about it12:35
knomeespecially since the documentation roadmaps usually come directly based on what development/changes are made in the OS12:35
knomesure, there are some always ongoing projects/tasks, but they haven't got anything to do with any specific release12:36
knomeif you want to try to tackle actual issues, then i would rather bring up the future of the community help wiki12:36
knomefor the third item, i was thinking that maybe it would make sense to try to gather some kind of table before the meeting, assuming your idea is to see who's doing what currently12:37
knomebut sadly enough, that list is pretty small, and roles aren't very clear12:37
knomethe three different subteams are working pretty much separately (partly because the documentation they are working on are very different things)12:38
knomedpm, ^ i'm sure you read it, but if not, ping12:40
dpmthis could have been easily called "16.04+ roadmap", as in to discuss the roadmap for the docs team moving forward, I agree that it shouldn't be tied to a particular release, but as we generally work in cycles, I thought it might be a good idea to define the scope. My suggestion was not to talk about the technical tasks, but rather to find a common set of goals for the next cycle, which we could put together in a roadmap. I think creating a pla12:40
dpmn together is something that would help defining the direction of the team. As per the wiki topic, this was simply a proposal for a collaborative agenda, so feel free to add it, I agree that it's important12:40
dpmI was reading... and typing :)12:40
dpmas per the third point, I agree, it could be pre-filled before the meeting to have the context beforehand12:41
knomethough as i said, and as we said in the mail, the list is very short12:41
dpmright12:41
knomei don't have exact numbers or knowledge of the other teams, but i would think the active contributor count is somewhere between 5 to 10 at most12:42
knomeincluding active community help wiki admins, which means we will react to things that happen there and try to make sure it works for all, but aren't actually working on creating new content12:43
dpmright12:43
dpmactually 5-10 people is a not a small number12:44
dpmdholbach, just to make sure I get the timezones right and I add it to the calendar - the CC catch up is at 16:30 our time, right?12:44
knomewell, that's just an estimation12:44
knomethe number could be 312:44
knomebut i would argue it *is* a small number12:44
knomethose people are responsible for the documentation of the whole ubuntu12:44
dpmthat reminds me... I wanted to add the roles of the docs team expliticly to the agenda12:45
knomei mean put it perspective;12:46
knomehow much money is canonical using to make ubuntu what it is, with convergence and all12:46
knomeand how many people are documenting how the core system works12:46
knomeespecially considering they aren't canonical employees or people who are actually working on the product12:46
dpmI wouln't argue it's a question of how much money is spent. As I understood it from the e-mail, the main issue is coordination and leadership12:48
knomei'm not saying it's a question of money either12:49
knomebut i would see some canonical involvement is required12:49
knomewithout that, the team has no clear direction, at least with the current contributor base12:49
dpmright, but that's exactly what we want to discuss in that meeting, isn't it?12:50
popeydpm: 18:30 your time. 17:30 UTC12:50
knomesure.12:50
popeydpm: typically be there from 17:00 UTC as the first half may go quickly so they may move on to us before the half hour12:50
dpmpopey, ah, thanks12:50
popeynp12:50
dpmI might have a call at 18:00, though12:51
popeyah12:51
popeywell, we'll all be there anyway12:51
popeyalthough oddly two of us are on the CC :)12:51
popeyso they will be rapidly switching hats during the meeting12:52
dpmanyway, for starters I'll put it in the calendar to ensure everyone is aware of the right time across timezones, starting with me :)12:52
popey:)12:55
dpmseems I might be triple-booked at 18:00 :/12:55
popeyGet you mister popular!12:55
dpm:)12:56
dpmanyway, I might be able to skeak out in case the meeting happens to start before 18:3012:56
dholbachdpm, it's at 18:30 our time13:20
dholbach(what popey said)13:20
popey:)13:20
dpmthanks both :)13:27
dholbachballoons, davidcalle, dpm, mhall119, popey: I think we should go, triage and fix a couple of developer-ubuntu-com bugs again some time14:46
popeygood call14:49
mhall119dholbach: content bugs you mean, since we still haven't had a deployment yet14:59
dholbachmhall119, any15:00
dpmknome, just re-read the docs meeting agenda, thanks for updating the topics!15:33
mhall119davidcalle: call?16:35
davidcallemhall119: omw16:35
belkinsaTo the Canonical Community Team: You have a CC check-in meeting in 30 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting17:02
dpmthanks belkinsa17:04
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dholbachI call it a day - see you all tomorrow again! :-()18:17
popeydholbach: o/18:17
HaloSpongeHave a Happy St Patricks day everyone !18:44
Kilosyou too HaloSponge18:45
HaloSpongeHows it going Kilos ?18:45
Kilosgood ty and you18:45
HaloSpongeI did my drinking at lunch time :)18:45
HaloSpongevery well.18:45
HaloSpongemerry.18:45
Kilosi dont drink18:45
Kiloslol18:45
HaloSpongefair enough.18:46
HaloSpongenor do I really.18:46
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