 mtp causes havoc even in windows
 I only did dolphin navigation, and it's all good, when it works
[05:05] <misc--> is it just me or is nobody typing anything to the channel?
[05:06] <dax> nobody is typing anything to the channel.
[05:06] <misc--> oh amazing... I'm on like four different busy channels and nobody is typing (new irc client I'm using.. what a coincidence)
[05:07] <dax> irc is usually quiet around this time. it's getting late in the US and is early in the EU
[05:08] <misc--> ah right, I see
[08:17] <amishrobots> \help
[09:11] <Guest21380> asd
[09:15] <soee_> you can type! :)
[10:02] <ghostknife> I want to remove the clock from my login and lock screen on Kubuntu 15.10. Any advice on how to do this?
[10:02] <hateball> ghostknife: are you using the default sddm theme?
[11:13] <ghostknife> hateball: yes i am
[11:15] <hateball> ghostknife: there's no gui way to disable the clock or edit elements of the theme afaik
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:29] <hazamonzo> Howdy BluesKaj
[11:30] <BluesKaj> hi hazamonzo
[11:31] <ghostknife> hateball: is it something I can do manually. I'm comfortable tweaking/hacking things if I kind of know what to look for
[11:31] <hateball> ghostknife: well it's all found under /etc/sddm
[11:32] <hateball> ghostknife: themes themselves are in /usr/share/sddm
[11:33] <ghostknife> hateball: wow thanks. these theme files are pretty neat. my first run in with QML :)
[11:34] <hateball> there's a "Clock.qml" but I dunno where it's confed to use it
[11:34] <hateball> it's deep in /usr/lib
[11:35] <ghostknife> ok, thanks for the hint.
[11:35] <hateball> (IRCing from non plasma 5 machine, hence no copy-paste path)
[11:35] <ghostknife> I also don't immediately see where it's included in the breeze theme. but this seems like an exciting adventure. at face value these QML themes seem pretty flexible/powerful.
[11:42] <BluesKaj> I've tried installing several themes with the add on installer and out of 5 or so that appeared to install only 2 showed up in the list
[11:53] <ghostknife> hateball: i found that the lockscreen is configured in a separate file: /usr/share/plasma/look-and-feel/org.kde.breeze.desktop/contents/lockscreen/LockScreen.qml
[13:40] <Grano> hi
[13:41] <BluesKaj> hi Grano
[13:41] <Grano> how do i enable vsync in Kubuntu, im using skylakes iGPU
[13:46] <hateball> Grano: on 14.04 or 15.10 ?
[13:46] <Grano> 15.10
[13:46] <Grano> updated my kernel to 4.4.5
[13:46] <hateball> Grano: alt+space, search for compositing
[13:46] <hateball> should have a prevent tearing option
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Grano, system settings>display&monitor>compositor, "tearing prevention"
[13:47] <hateball> iirc there are bugs with intel + vsync tho
[13:47] <hateball> might have been patched now, I dunno
[13:49] <Grano> currently im using the option "Only when cheap"
[13:49] <Grano> is full screen repaint enough to prevent tearing in videos?
[13:50] <Grano> because re-use screen content is not usable
[13:52] <hateball> I find full screen repaint to be the only reliable option
[13:52] <hateball> since I use nvidia blob on my primary device I use its global vsync features and disable kwins
[13:52] <hateball> but I do recall full screen repaint being alright
[13:52] <Grano> doesnt work for me though
[13:53] <hateball> Grano: oh and tick the... kill effects for fullscreen windows
[13:53] <Grano> and full creen repaint makes my system laggy to the point where its not usable
[13:54] <Grano> hateball: suspend compositor for full screen windows?
[13:55] <Grano> hmm seems like no option works reliable for me
[13:55] <Grano> i guess ill have to get a dedicated gpu
[13:55] <Grano> or wait for never drivers
[13:56] <hateball> Grano: should be newer mesa etc in 16.04 I guess, skylake is pretty new after all
[13:57] <Grano> can i just upgrade to testing from my version?
[13:57] <hateball> Grano: yes, at your own risk of course
[13:57] <hateball> Grano: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[13:57] <Grano> dont worry i have all my imporant files backed up
[13:57] <Grano> thanks for the help
[13:58] <hateball> :)
[14:25] <Girts> Hello all. I wonder could anyone tell me if I am wasting time trying to get a decent screen size on SiS 671 adapter
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Girts, graphics?
[14:32] <Smurphy> Girts: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/sis
[14:34] <BluesKaj> ok , Smurphy found it for you Girts...BBL errands to do
[14:34] <Girts> yes, graphics. its been 2 days and many distros, noone has sis support it seems
[14:34] <Girts> thank you for your response
[14:42] <frank___> Can't install Kubuntu on my PC. Either boot from DVD hangs quite quickly or (sometimes) after installation(!!!) at reboot. Tried several times without success. I have no idea what to do first to bypass this. Any suggestions what to check or do first?
[15:03] <Smurphy> Fritigern: Yep - you need to provide more details, and eventually what happens when it hangs -> Screen output.
[15:09] <Girts> thanks and wish me luck with linux mint
[15:13] <Smurphy> :}
[15:14] <BluesKaj> he'll be back :-)
[15:17] <Smurphy> yep.
[17:36] <Fritigern> Smurphy: Case of mistaken identity?
[17:56] <olavgg>  /msg NickServ identify 399gvung
[17:57] <olavgg> test
[17:57] <olavgg> wtf
[18:01] <olavgg> seriously... that little whitespace, and everyone sees my password :P
[18:01] <pps> yoo... don't kill me for asking, looks like KDE just won't work at all on ubuntu (or ubuntu cannot handle it at all)
[18:02] <pps> what can I do to get KDE in ubuntu?
[18:02] <pps> xubuntu works fine, but apt-get kubuntu-desktop fails miserably making my install broken. I use latest ubuntu 15 clean install
[18:03] <kpawlowski> Hi, where can I download 16.04 beta image?
[18:08] <kpawlowski> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ are these images ok?
[18:18] <dax> kpawlowski: yes
[18:19] <dax> (as in: that's where you should be downloading 16.04 from right now, no idea if it's "okay" as in working or not :P)
[18:22] <kpawlowski> thank ;)
[20:02] <Jagrophess> has anyone here fixed issues with their wifi dropping? Mine's horrible ive tried everything
[20:03] <Smurphy> olavgg: lol ... :}
[20:09] <lordievader> olavgg: That is why it is wise to query nickserv before identifying.
[20:34] <davidrnewman> anyone else lost all sound output after this morning's wily-update?
[20:50] <davidrnewman> the alsa update has made the sound cards only accessible to root, even though I'm in the audio group.
[20:58] <mparillo> davidrnewman: I just updated and will test (unfortunately on Xenial).
[21:01] <mparillo> Works for me. Sorry I do not have any wily partitions left.
[21:07] <Swipe-> davidrnewman; sound working ok for me after updating
[21:15] <sick_rimmit> Party news
[21:15] <sick_rimmit> http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-part-2/
[21:15] <davidrnewman> it looks like the udev update has broken sound, and once again made my Canon scanner inaccessible.
[21:33] <Katie> can I install kubuntu on my 2008 macbook 4,1?
[21:51] <katie> can I install kubuntu on my 2008 macbook 4,1
[21:51] <insidious> lol
[21:52] <insidious> why would you want to do that?
[21:52] <insidious> Yes its poss to do so.
[21:52] <katie> OS X is driving me crazy and I wanted to see what my options are
[21:52] <insidious> I had windows 7 on mackbook 4,1
[21:52] <insidious> and 10
[21:52] <insidious> so i dont see why not?
[21:53] <insidious> katie
[21:53] <insidious> persoanlly
[21:53] <insidious> if i were you.
[21:53] <insidious> I would install xubuntu.
[21:53] <katie> I am a regular linux user and us a vm to run linux on my windows computer, but I have this old macbook and thought it might be a good linux computer
[21:53] <katie> why xubuntu?
[21:53] <insidious> because its lighter.
[21:54] <katie> how so?
[21:54] <insidious> i forget what the graphics cards on the 4,1
[21:54] <insidious> gpu is poor i reckon
[21:54] <katie> touche
[21:54] <bprompt> katie:   if you want light, Lubuntu is the lightest of the Ubuntu flavors though
[21:55] <insidious> ^
[21:55] <insidious> xubuntu is just nicer
[21:55] <insidious> imp
[21:55] <insidious> imo
[21:55] <insidious> :P
[21:55] <katie> what makes kubuntu so heavy?
[21:55] <insidious> its not that.
[21:55] <bprompt> well, kubuntu is nicer too =)
[21:55] <insidious> it loves gpu
[21:55] <bprompt> so it's Unity, it's a matter of choices though =)
[21:55] <insidious> brompt im using kubuntu on laptop :P
[21:56] <bprompt> so am I =)
[21:56] <insidious> I just dont think with her gpu card
[21:56] <insidious> it would beifit her
[21:56] <katie> good point
[21:56] <bprompt> though I don't run Kwin, I run lxde, but kde apps
[21:56] <insidious> benifit.
 My macbook 3,1 handled kde4 so I think the 4,1 can handle Kubuntu fine
[21:56] <insidious> telegram: with plasma?
[21:57] <bprompt> yeah, I'd think so too, if it can handled macOSX, kubuntu shouldn't be such a biggie either
 Yep
 Plasma 5 has gotten better
[21:57] <katie> I mean the only reason why I was thinking kubuntu was because I liked the environment. I'm open to anything though
[21:57] <insidious> if you can run kde
[21:57] <insidious> then do so.
[21:57] <katie> how do I find out if I can
[21:58] <insidious> katie:
[21:58] <insidious> He made a good point.
[21:58] <insidious> your running mac osz
[21:58] <insidious> osx  so it should be fine
[21:58] <insidious> :P
[21:58] <insidious> I just know the ram etc is limited.
[21:58] <bprompt> katie:   hardaware specs :), how much ram? what type, ddr1, ddr2? what cpu speed?  what hdd type?   what speed, how many RPMs?
[21:58] <insidious> and if i had it i would use xubuntu or lxubuntu
[21:59] <insidious> brompt: the max is 4
[21:59] <insidious> ddr 2
[21:59] <insidious> dual core
[21:59] <bprompt> 4gbs ddr2 is fine for kubuntu 14.04
[21:59] <bprompt> dunno on 16.04
[21:59] <insidious> if you just a typical user browsing and few apps it will be fine.
[22:00] <katie> well I'm a computer engineering student so I code a lot
[22:00] <insidious> linux itself will run 10 times better then osx
[22:00] <insidious> :P
[22:00] <bprompt> katie:   you won't be running VMs with those 4gbs though, but will work for everything else
[22:00] <insidious> ^
[22:00] <katie> yea I don't plan on running an VMs with it
[22:00] <insidious> im only using about 1.7 gbs out of 32gb
[22:00] <insidious> lol
[22:01] <insidious> with two vms running.
[22:01] <insidious> :3
[22:01] <bprompt> somehow, I think that number is inaccurate, unless you're running kubuntu 9.04 =)
[22:02] <insidious> it was not accurate.
[22:02] <insidious> about "  roughly a guess.
[22:02] <katie> I have 4GB of RAM, ddr2, 2.4 GHz speed
[22:03] <bprompt> katie:  looks good
[22:03] <katie> yea I got it for a steal on ebay lol
[22:03] <katie> so I think I should be good with Kubuntu? Or should I go with X or L ubuntu?
[22:04] <bprompt> you mean, you stole it from ebay?  well, watch out two guys in black wearing long-brimmed hats knocking at your door at 11pm
[22:04] <insidious> bprompt: according to htop 1985mbs
[22:04] <leumas_> katie: try out Kubuntu as live CD (on USB stick) and check out how it runs
[22:04] <insidious> keep in mind it will be a bit slower booting etc running off usb.
[22:05] <katie> so download it on to a USB, then get to the boot menu and run it from there before I wipe my hardrive?
[22:05] <insidious> yes
[22:05] <bprompt> katie:    xubuntu is just ligher than kubuntu, and Lubuntu is ligher than xubuntu, what's the difference? usually fancy features
[22:05] <insidious> i would be more concerned about the gpu
[22:05] <leumas_> yea, if you are fine with its performance in that mode then you should be fine when you install it
[22:07] <insidious> Because it will run don't always make it the best solution.
[22:07] <insidious> :P
[22:07] <insidious> Its a machine from 2008.
[22:09] <insidious> typically ubuntu is good on detecting old hardware etc.
[22:09] <insidious> so i don't think you will have much trouble.
[22:10] <katie> ok awesome. Thanks for the help and it is much appreciated!
[22:10] <insidious> katie:
[22:10] <insidious> based on forums etc
[22:10] <insidious> people had no issues.
[22:10] <insidious> from what little i researched.
[22:11] <insidious> i havent played with thos machines in time.
[22:11] <insidious> kde is great machine but i used kde itself with older hardware and had issues with the gpu
[22:12] <insidious> fuzzyness , lines etc
[22:12] <bprompt> katie:    the driver base for the ubuntu flavors installations is pretty good, that chances are, it will pick up everything your machine has
[22:12] <insidious> but that was using other linux flavors
[22:12] <insidious> ie  debian and fedora
[22:12] <insidious> like he said ubuntu is good with detection.
[22:13] <katie> so stick with ubuntu?
[22:13] <leumas> Hi all, am having issues pairing my Nexus 5 with my system via KDE connect
[22:14] <bprompt> I think debian doesn't include certain drivers due to licensing issues, they can, but they don't
[22:14] <insidious> not to mention the package manager
[22:14] <insidious> is horrid
[22:14] <bprompt> well, depends, if you run kde, you can just run kde package manager =)
[22:15] <insidious> yea
[22:16] <bprompt> leumas:    haven't done much bluetooth myself in kde
[22:16] <leumas> bprompt: Kde connect works with wifi
[22:17] <bprompt> leumas:   but I simply plug in the mobile device by usb cable, and that works as MTP device or usb storage :)
[22:17] <insidious> :P
[22:18] <bprompt> leumas:   so, you're making kde connect to work as "wifi access point" to the Nexus tablet then?  hmm haven't used kde connect myself though
[22:18] <leumas> yea that works but i want to be far from the phone and see notifications on my laptop
[22:19] <Scunizi> leumas: from my past experiance (been a while) you need the latest kde connect on your machine.  Typically from a ppa.
[22:19] <leumas> bprompt: yea, i have installed the ppa on my repository list and updated
[22:19] <bprompt> leumas:   that simply means you need to get a 50ft cable :), maybe not =)
[22:20] <leumas> Alright, thanks :)
[22:21] <insidious> lol 50ft cable