| ximion | yes, that's exactly the bug I learned to love ;-) | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| * ximion needs sleep too | 00:08 | |
| ximion | gn8 | 00:08 |
| ximion | btw, robert_ancell: I just added a "status" command to appstreamcli - that should make diagnosing common mistakes even easier | 00:09 |
| ximion | (it checks for the distro metadata and cache status and returns some useful information bug reports can attach to rule out an issue with the data itself) | 00:09 |
| ximion | I hope we won't need it, ever :) | 00:09 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, nice | 01:47 |
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| willcooke | o/ | 08:59 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke! | 09:01 |
| willcooke | morning seb128 | 09:01 |
| Laney | hey ho | 09:04 |
| willcooke | morning Laney | 09:04 |
| seb128 | hey Laney! | 09:05 |
| Laney | what up chaps | 09:05 |
| Laney | happy friday | 09:05 |
| seb128 | happy friday! | 09:06 |
| seb128 | willcooke, so I tried installed packagekit instead of the aptdaemon compat, things work correctly (nautilus program install, codecs, langpack) but looking to rdepends ubuntu-drivers-common has in its description | 09:08 |
| seb128 | - a PackageKit plugin for WhatProvides() for types MODALIAS and | 09:09 |
| seb128 | HARDWARE_DRIVER, to do the same queries as above through the PackageKit API | 09:09 |
| seb128 | (for using in non-distro specific GUIs). This works with aptdaemon's | 09:09 |
| seb128 | PackageKit compatibility layer (python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat) and with | 09:09 |
| seb128 | PackageKit's apt backend, but _not_ with the PackageKit aptcc backend. | 09:09 |
| seb128 | I don't have any hardware to test drivers install though | 09:09 |
| seb128 | unsure if that's still true | 09:09 |
| seb128 | maybe pitti knows | 09:09 |
| willcooke | oki, thanks seb128 | 09:09 |
| willcooke | davmor2, do you have non intel gfx hardware, ideally nvidia I expect ^ | 09:10 |
| willcooke | ahhhh | 09:10 |
| willcooke | interesting thought.... | 09:10 |
| willcooke | if users have non-intel gfx cards, U8 wont work for them anyway | 09:10 |
| seb128 | Laney, we landing the greeter hidpi corruption fix, feedback is still welcome if you want to test, might be easier now that it's in the archive ;-) | 09:10 |
| willcooke | (at least I think that's still the case0 | 09:10 |
| willcooke | ) | 09:10 |
| seb128 | willcooke, it's not only video though? | 09:10 |
| willcooke | ahh | 09:11 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: I might have, nvidia, prime, amd, and intel boxes | 09:11 |
| willcooke | seb128, maybe in most cases the drivers would have been installed before u8 | 09:11 |
| willcooke | davmor2, ha! Nice! | 09:11 |
| willcooke | davmor2, I'll speak to you off-line about some changes coming up | 09:11 |
| willcooke | davmor2, got time for a quick phone call later? | 09:11 |
| willcooke | I think it'll be quicker | 09:11 |
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| davmor2 | willcooke: sure | 09:11 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yeah, but since things we working nicely I was pondering doing the switch in the default u7 install to avoid having unity8 to remove installed things | 09:12 |
| willcooke | hummmmmm | 09:12 |
| willcooke | let's see | 09:12 |
| seb128 | but I guess we can stick to the plan | 09:12 |
| seb128 | safer | 09:12 |
| willcooke | +1 | 09:12 |
| seb128 | let's not get carried on | 09:12 |
| seb128 | it's already good news than most things work ;-) | 09:12 |
| willcooke | haha | 09:13 |
| willcooke | yes | 09:13 |
| seb128 | Laney, Trevinho, willcooke, desktopers: I'm on vac tonight until end of the month, if there is anything I should look at/you need me for before that now is a good time to mention it ;-) | 09:26 |
| willcooke | :) | 09:26 |
| * Laney is off for the second week of that too | 09:26 | |
| Laney | seb128: you going somewhere? | 09:28 |
| seb128 | Laney, in the south of France (Luberon) | 09:30 |
| seb128 | it's a bit before the south coast, so real south (oh, no didrocks to troll today...) | 09:30 |
| willcooke | seb128, just spoke to davmor2 about doing some shake down testing for the PK0.8 stuff | 09:30 |
| seb128 | nature is supposed to be nice there | 09:30 |
| seb128 | so we plan to do some site seeing/walks | 09:31 |
| seb128 | it's going to be sunny and 17°C as well | 09:31 |
| seb128 | should be good :-) | 09:31 |
| seb128 | willcooke, great | 09:31 |
| Laney | \o/ | 09:31 |
| seb128 | davmor2, thanks | 09:31 |
| seb128 | Laney, and you? going somewhere in your week off? | 09:31 |
| davmor2 | seb128: you thank me now wait till you come back to the bug list ;) | 09:31 |
| seb128 | davmor2, I'm going to be on vac so that's fine :p | 09:31 |
| Laney | http://wikitravel.org/en/Luberon | 09:32 |
| Laney | lots to do there! | 09:32 |
| Laney | seb128: getting a canal boat and cruising around | 09:32 |
| Laney | somewhere west ish, didn't decide exactly yet | 09:32 |
| willcooke | Laney, jealous | 09:33 |
| * Laney is in favour of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire_Ring | 09:33 | |
| willcooke | Laney, did you watch that canal boat thing on C4? | 09:34 |
| Laney | yeah! | 09:34 |
| seb128 | nice | 09:34 |
| willcooke | I want to live in a canal boat for a while. I think it would be super. Mrs says if I do I'm on my own | 09:34 |
| willcooke | I think South of France would be more her cup of tea | 09:35 |
| willcooke | ;) | 09:35 |
| Laney | the mobile signal was utterly dire last time we did it | 09:35 |
| Laney | #usefulinformation | 09:35 |
| willcooke | moor up near a pub with wifi | 09:35 |
| willcooke | if such a thing exists | 09:35 |
| Laney | pubs with canalside access are totally a thing | 09:36 |
| Laney | probs | 09:36 |
| Laney | also I am on Three, so ... | 09:36 |
| Laney | pinch of salt required | 09:36 |
| willcooke | heh | 09:36 |
| seb128 | "Three"? | 09:38 |
| seb128 | is that a provider? | 09:38 |
| Laney | yeah | 09:38 |
| seb128 | k | 09:38 |
| Laney | they have a bit of a reputation for bad signal | 09:39 |
| Laney | I just destroyed the original appstream-dep11 environment, released the IP and deleted the cinder volume it was using | 09:44 |
| Laney | http://appstream.ubuntu.com/ <- still works | 09:44 |
| Laney | now with working screenshot download | 09:44 |
| * Laney deflates | 09:44 | |
| seb128 | wooot | 09:47 |
| Laney | this makes me a cloud guy now | 09:48 |
| * Laney walks off towards the money pile | 09:48 | |
| seb128 | willcooke, watch out, Laney is not allowed to leave us | 09:48 |
| * Laney is attached to one of those bungee things | 09:48 | |
| Laney | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAUFTf0QKQ8 | 09:49 |
| seb128 | davmor2, just as a fyi, if you hit https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760359 it's known | 09:49 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 760359 in Movie player "Can't restart playback after installing codecs" [Normal,New] | 09:49 |
| willcooke | :D | 09:49 |
| willcooke | congrats Laney | 09:49 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:49 |
| davmor2 | seb128: I see starting the excuses before you even hand it over ;) | 09:51 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:52 |
| seb128 | indeed | 09:52 |
| dpm | seb128, good morning! Quick question, as I keep forgetting, which LP project is the one to file bugs against the Unity 8 session. is this the one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8-desktop-session | 09:52 |
| seb128 | dpm, hey, yes that was the one (unsure if that changed, I didn't look at it much this cycle) | 09:52 |
| dpm | ok, thanks! | 09:53 |
| seb128 | yw! | 09:53 |
| * willcooke wonders where his squirrel is | 10:00 | |
| willcooke | Trevinho, 1) release notes links please. 2) Are you happy with the won't fix list? | 10:01 |
| Laney | take a trip to BF | 10:01 |
| Laney | and be irritating in the design area until done | 10:01 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: yeah, sorry for the delay I'm going to reply | 10:01 |
| willcooke | thanks Trevinho | 10:01 |
| willcooke | Laney, I'm irritating by proxy | 10:02 |
| willcooke | ;) | 10:02 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, hey | 10:09 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, did you see my request to drop the appmenu change from the silo? | 10:09 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hey | 10:09 |
| seb128 | sorry about that | 10:09 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yes, already done it | 10:09 |
| seb128 | great, thanks | 10:09 |
| seb128 | willcooke, Laney, xnox, just for info, we could drop qt4 from the iso which would win us like 30M on the iso (only things still using it are appmenu/indicator/fcitx integrations) but then we don't have a good story to pull those integration bits when somebody uses unity and install a qt4 software | 10:11 |
| seb128 | since it's late in the cycle and everybody is busy and the iso spac difference is not significant I think we should keep it for the LTS and drop it after | 10:11 |
| willcooke | +1 | 10:11 |
| seb128 | good that you agree :-) | 10:12 |
| Laney | didn't we talk about that before? | 10:12 |
| seb128 | we did, but nobody picked it up and we didn't have a good way to pull in the integration bits | 10:12 |
| Laney | I remember suggesting some changes | 10:12 |
| seb128 | it's probably be fine, I just didn't get to do it, too busy | 10:13 |
| seb128 | that was a status update saying that I'm not going to be able to push that forward before the LTS | 10:13 |
| seb128 | sorry | 10:13 |
| seb128 | if somebody wants to pick it up please do | 10:13 |
| seb128 | otherwise it's going to be next cycle | 10:14 |
| Laney | is there a bug? | 10:17 |
| Laney | I found the log from last time | 10:17 |
| Laney | could write down what I suggested | 10:18 |
| seb128 | Laney, not that I know, I can write to ubuntu-devel@ or open a bug (against what component?) if you want | 10:22 |
| seb128 | but yeah, having that recorded somewhere would be useful | 10:23 |
| Laney | start with ubuntu-meta? | 10:23 |
| Laney | yeah new nautilus | 10:29 |
| seb128 | k, let me try to open that bug today, adding to my afternoon todolist | 10:34 |
| willcooke | desrt, you didn't buy a "GOTHEM" lamp from Ikea did you? | 10:46 |
| ogra_ | because he was so quiet for the last hours ? | 10:47 |
| willcooke | right, it went quiet when it got dark ;) | 10:48 |
| ogra_ | :) | 10:48 |
| willcooke | desrt, http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/about_ikea/newsitem/2016_gothem_lamps | 10:48 |
| tjaalton | Laney: hey, looks like gstreamer-vaapi is a release behind, wonder if that could be updated (universe).. and the version number matches other gstreamer bits now | 11:07 |
| Laney | tjaalton: sure, feel free to test/sync | 11:08 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 11:09 |
| xnox | seb128, fair enough. i guess we should have a qt4 story sorted next cycle. | 11:39 |
| * xnox ponders if we care about appmenu/indicator/fcitx integration for qt4 things and how bad things are without them.... | 11:40 | |
| desrt | willcooke: I'm alive :) | 11:47 |
| desrt | I got http://m.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/art/30184173/ | 11:49 |
| desrt | wasn't even going to get a lamp this night but it was $9 and came in a small box... so why not? | 11:50 |
| willcooke | desrt, :D | 12:02 |
| willcooke | yay | 12:02 |
| desrt | also: good morning, everyone :) | 12:32 |
| Laney | hi desrt! | 12:33 |
| desrt | hello laney | 12:33 |
| desrt | hangover? | 12:33 |
| Laney | after two half pints | 12:36 |
| Laney | yer jokin! | 12:36 |
| desrt | i saw your sticker sheet... | 12:36 |
| desrt | i guess that was from more than last night =) | 12:36 |
| Laney | indeed | 12:36 |
| Laney | did some on saturday too | 12:37 |
| Laney | hey has anyone noticed pulseaudio dying after a while? | 12:38 |
| Laney | laney@nightingale> gst-play-1.0 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/llnw/bbc_6music.m3u8 ~ | 12:38 |
| Laney | Press 'k' to see a list of keyboard shortcuts. | 12:38 |
| Laney | Now playing http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/llnw/bbc_6music.m3u8 | 12:38 |
| Laney | shm_open() failed: No such file or directory | 12:38 |
| desrt | Error 403: we've detected that your alegience to The Queen, while respectable, is just too far away. | 12:40 |
| Laney | didn't think the radio streams were geo locked | 12:42 |
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| Sweet5hark1 | seb128: so I have a new libreoffice build with some minor fixes ready, nothing urgent though, so Id suggest to upload that on Monday, not today. | 13:07 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark1, I'm on vac tonight, why- not just upload today and block it in proposed until monday with a tagged bug? | 13:08 |
| Sweet5hark1 | seb128: You mean with "block-proposed"? Yeah, could do. I havent tested that one bugfix, but I guess that is what the tag is supposed to be used for anyway, isnt it? | 13:11 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark1, right | 13:12 |
| Sweet5hark1 | seb128: k, will finalize the package then ASAP ... | 13:12 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark1, thanks | 13:13 |
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| GunnarHj | Hi Laney, just filed bug #1559070. Would it be an option to go back to yelp 3.16 in Xenial? | 13:35 |
| ubot5 | bug 1559070 in yelp (Ubuntu) "SVG icons not shown / "yelp </path/to/file.page>" fails" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1559070 | 13:35 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, not really no | 13:36 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: What would the problem be? The dependencies seem not to prevent it. | 13:37 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, it depends on webkit1 which is unsecure and one of the goal was to replace it by webkit2 | 13:38 |
| seb128 | webkit1 moved to universe | 13:38 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I see. Will somebody have time to fix it? | 13:38 |
| seb128 | it's not impossible, we still have some bugfixing time before release | 13:39 |
| seb128 | step one would be to report a bug upstream | 13:39 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Think I'll try to talk to the developer directly first. (Don't remember his name for the moment.) | 13:40 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Upstream are on 3.20 anyway, aren't they? | 13:41 |
| seb128 | there is no much change betwee 3.18 and 3.20 | 13:41 |
| seb128 | https://git.gnome.org/browse/yelp/log/ | 13:41 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: The question is if the issue is fixed there. Anyway, I saw the name of the person I'll ask for advice: Shaun McCance. | 13:45 |
| seb128 | right | 13:45 |
| seb128 | you should open a bug upstream in any case | 13:45 |
| seb128 | even if he fixes it, always good to have a reference entry | 13:45 |
| GunnarHj | Ok, will do. | 13:45 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, speaking of which, do you know if anyone is updating the ubuntu documentation startpage logo? | 13:50 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Yes, we are about to. Latest info is that it will be available today. | 13:51 |
| seb128 | great | 13:51 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 13:51 |
| * willcooke has squirrel | 13:59 | |
| seb128 | spip? | 14:01 |
| willcooke | ? | 14:02 |
| seb128 | willcooke, http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_small/0/77/3938569-spip_fs.jpg | 14:03 |
| seb128 | it's the squirrel in Spirou (comic) | 14:03 |
| willcooke | http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DH5X5D/cape-ground-squirrel-in-the-kalahari-desert-DH5X5D.jpg | 14:03 |
| seb128 | http://www.mantagraphics.com/franquin/IMAGE/spipanglais-3.gif | 14:03 |
| seb128 | lol | 14:03 |
| seb128 | *that* squirrel | 14:04 |
| seb128 | gotcha ;-) | 14:04 |
| willcooke | :D:D:D::D | 14:04 |
| willcooke | that guy is a legend | 14:04 |
| seb128 | hehe | 14:04 |
| seb128 | I dare you putting the image you just shared is in the defaults background set :p | 14:04 |
| willcooke | how much cash will you give me? | 14:05 |
| seb128 | not enough I guess ;-) | 14:05 |
| willcooke | lol | 14:05 |
| seb128 | but come on, it's 11 years people talk about the naked people background | 14:05 |
| seb128 | time to give them something new :p | 14:06 |
| seb128 | desrt, Laney, I just though about that one, unsure if it makes any difference but maybe that's still something we want to do before the LTS? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktop-file-utils/+bug/1559129 | 14:09 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1559129 in desktop-file-utils (Ubuntu) "Replace defaults.list by mimeapps.list " [Undecided,New] | 14:09 |
| seb128 | just pointing it because I'm not going to be able to look at that today | 14:10 |
| seb128 | in case that's something somebody want to sneak in next week | 14:10 |
| desrt | from the glib side it has basically zero effect | 14:10 |
| desrt | glib will fall back on the old filename | 14:10 |
| seb128 | right | 14:10 |
| desrt | in theory it could improve things for other toolkits, but i never heard of kde/qt ever implemented the spec as we agreed on it | 14:11 |
| seb128 | k, so not really worth spending efforts on now | 14:11 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:11 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: https://git.gnome.org/browse/yelp/commit/?id=e5f3a147aec6aeb4629194e1d3a3eefc1d4716e9 | 14:34 |
| willcooke | bah, the squirrel is too small. Only supplied at 300px. | 14:38 |
| willcooke | So I'm just going to have to use that other | 14:38 |
| willcooke | one | 14:38 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Thanks! Wonder if that would fix both issues... | 14:39 |
| Laney | Where can you see the other one? | 14:39 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Which is "the other one"? ;) | 14:40 |
| Laney | The one that's not the one that I know is fixed :))))))))))) | 14:40 |
| Laney | svg thing | 14:41 |
| mhall119 | Laney: FYI, maybe of the appstream icon bugs filed are by the same person who hasn't contacted upstream yet, I sent him an email yesterday asking him to do so and giving him some guidance about how | 14:41 |
| mhall119 | he was lacking in confidence on that, because he's new to contributing, so I'm going to continue giving him help and encouragement | 14:41 |
| Laney | hey mhall119, thanks for that! | 14:42 |
| Laney | I'm not sure I saw any of the (3?) people doing it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=appstream | 14:42 |
| mhall119 | I only contacted ricardo sousa, because he did the majority of those | 14:42 |
| mhall119 | I'll look at the others today | 14:42 |
| mhall119 | I also updated my blog entry to s/assigned to/subscribe/ | 14:43 |
| cyphermox | willcooke: hey | 14:43 |
| Laney | <3 | 14:43 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Open Ubuntu Help, click "Manage apps & settings with the menu bar", scroll down and click "List of status menus and what they do". | 14:43 |
| cyphermox | willcooke: did you get anyone to look at compiz for the crashers? I'm still testing to make sure, but it looks like things that don't use compiz aren't exploding | 14:43 |
| qengho | Dang, cking, come back to work! | 14:44 |
| willcooke | cyphermox, hikiko is the best person | 14:45 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you also see "Backups" listed twice in the installed applications in g-s? | 14:46 |
| Laney | seb128: yup | 14:48 |
| seb128 | Laney, any idea offhand what the issue could be? it seems the extra .desktop have the X-... key | 14:48 |
| Laney | I would say that one of them is for the .desktop file and one is for the installed appdata | 14:51 |
| Laney | It should only show one of them | 14:52 |
| seb128 | I'm going to open a bug and let Robert sort it out, I've no idea how that dedup logic is working | 14:52 |
| willcooke | cyphermox, Trevinho is also looking in to it | 14:54 |
| cyphermox | willcooke: ok | 14:58 |
| cyphermox | still testing servers to see if things break, and gnome-shell. I already tried xubuntu and it didn't seem to crash | 14:58 |
| cyphermox | I can't think of a non-unity compiz user | 14:59 |
| seb128 | Laney, reported as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1559171 | 14:59 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1559171 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Backups listed twice in the "Installed" section" [Undecided,New] | 14:59 |
| cyphermox | willcooke: no crash in gnome-shell either :/ | 15:13 |
| willcooke | ruh roh | 15:14 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, ^ | 15:14 |
| cyphermox | I'm reasonably certain it's something in compiz, or something between X and compiz maybe | 15:14 |
| cyphermox | I tried to upgrade just libglib2.0-0 from under it on 14.04 (using the 16.06 libglib), but that didn't crash despite what was in the crash info in syslog | 15:15 |
| * cyphermox updates the bug | 15:16 | |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: did you see the links for the libreoffice sponsoring request? (bloody VPNs disconned me twice) | 15:26 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, no | 15:26 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/xenial/5.1.1/libreoffice_5.1.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/xenial/5.1.1/libreoffice-l10n_5.1.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes <- dunno if that is a repost, I was toggling VPNs... | 15:26 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, thanks | 15:26 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: yw | 15:27 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, can I get compiz to do some more logging while this upgrade is running? | 15:27 |
| seb128 | Laney, mterry, I've added some though to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deja-dup/+bug/1559171 ... I think it might be because the deja-dup appstream points to a .desktop which is NoDisplay=tru | 15:30 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1559171 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Backups listed twice in the "Installed" section" [Undecided,New] | 15:31 |
| seb128 | e | 15:31 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, trying with compiz --replace --debug from a ssh shell... | 15:36 |
| flexiondotorg | Trevinho, I've been testing the merge proposal - https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/compiz/add-gtk-frame-extents-to-net-supported/+merge/257303 | 15:37 |
| seb128 | willcooke, so about apt: urls, I'm fixing the default handlers to use apturl but ideally gnome-software should understand those the way software-center did, I opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1559185 about that | 15:38 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1559185 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Doesn't understand apt: urls" [Undecided,New] | 15:38 |
| flexiondotorg | See the last three comments, including my own. It looks like there are more reasons to merge than not. | 15:38 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128 | 15:40 |
| mterry | seb128: ok will add that bug to my todo list, but I'm busy today | 15:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, no hurry, it's minor, doesn't need to be today | 15:41 |
| Laney | seb128: cool | 15:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, also I don't know what's the right way there, maybe pointing the appstream to the panel? | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ximion or Laney might know better | 15:42 |
| Trevinho | flexiondotorg: no... We can't... It breaks many things. We need to rework the comipz geometry in order to get that properly | 15:42 |
| mterry | seb128: yeah I'm not sure what the right fix is -- we have two ways of launching, so can't just stuff everything into one desktop file (hence the deja-dup.desktop "meta" desktop file) | 15:43 |
| flexiondotorg | Trevinho, Can you point me to where I should be experiencing breakage? | 15:43 |
| seb128 | mterry, yeah, I don't know either | 15:44 |
| flexiondotorg | Trevinho, There is an new effort called Compiz Reloaded starting, based on 0.8. | 15:44 |
| seb128 | mterry, but as said it's minor, it only impacts how its listed in gnome-software, which most people probably don't care about since it's preinstalled | 15:44 |
| flexiondotorg | The developers are tackling this issue. | 15:44 |
| flexiondotorg | If I can identify issues, I'll work with the to try and port fixes the Compiz 0.9 | 15:45 |
| flexiondotorg | So I need examples of what is broken, for test cases. | 15:45 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg, the 0.9 codebase is quite different I think ... do you know why they started of 0.8? | 15:49 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128, I'm aware there are significant differences. | 15:49 |
| flexiondotorg | I asked about why 0.8 yesterday. Trying to see if they will align with 0.9. | 15:49 |
| flexiondotorg | But they have been forward patch from 0.8 to 0.9 already because some of the team are openSUSE and there they use Compiz 0.9 | 15:50 |
| Trevinho | Laney: this is ready to land imho, if you can ack it https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1137 | 15:51 |
| Trevinho | flexiondotorg: we should remove the frame border from the window geometry. Otherwise for example, (vertically) maximized windows could not work, | 15:54 |
| Trevinho | Also we should not add frame to the window | 15:54 |
| Trevinho | area that is covered by borders | 15:54 |
| Trevinho | flexiondotorg: vertically maximize a csd window... | 15:56 |
| flexiondotorg | OK, that reverts it to a solid-csd mode. | 15:56 |
| cyphermox | willcooke: that doesn't in any case reduce the importance of fixing compiz to not fail in the way that it currently does, but I'm doing a manual upgrade with a few steps upgrading specific things and I've already passed compiz and X without crashes. it doesn't really mean anything yet, but perhaps I can work around the issue | 16:02 |
| Laney | Trevinho: what about the bamf / 'launching' stuff? | 16:03 |
| cyphermox | arf, maybe I spoke too fast | 16:03 |
| Trevinho | Laney: oh, was the bug ACKed... Sorry I didn't see the mail -_- | 16:03 |
| flexiondotorg | Trevinho, so I see the issue where the vertically maximised window is not sized to the full vertical resolution. | 16:04 |
| * Laney fistshakes | 16:04 | |
| Trevinho | Laney: can I add just the bamf side (as it's quicker to rebuild) and we land the unity side latger? | 16:04 |
| Laney | Trevinho: I want it in well before the beta | 16:04 |
| Trevinho | since the bamf side is the one with new api.. | 16:04 |
| Trevinho | Laney: mondey can be there I think.. Not sure there's time tonight (it depends on the builders) | 16:05 |
| seb128 | if you have an update ready land that and do another one? | 16:05 |
| Trevinho | Yeah, better that one | 16:05 |
| Laney | Only if you do it | 16:05 |
| Laney | If you disappear and it doesn't happen: >:( | 16:05 |
| Trevinho | I don't | 16:06 |
| Trevinho | Laney: so, I'm doing a new silo for that | 16:07 |
| Trevinho | Well, if you can land the other one... | 16:07 |
| Trevinho | Not sure what's qucker | 16:07 |
| Trevinho | quicker* | 16:07 |
| Laney | You have to wait for it to merge before being able to build a new one no? | 16:08 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yes for unity | 16:09 |
| Laney | you're just making a later night for yourself | 16:10 |
| Laney | but if that's what you want :P | 16:10 |
| Trevinho | Well, it's not a problem | 16:10 |
| Laney | done | 16:11 |
| Trevinho | Laney: ok, good... | 16:12 |
| Laney | :) | 16:12 |
| Trevinho | well, manual ACKing needed it seems | 16:12 |
| Laney | https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-028-2-publish/6/console | 16:12 |
| Laney | not ticking it gives you nice links to look at | 16:12 |
| Trevinho | better | 16:13 |
| Laney | back in a bit | 16:14 |
| Trevinho | seb128: if you've time I think you can sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/gtk/unity-border-radius-support/+merge/288331 in the mean time, or I'll bother Laney again next week (for the other branch too) :) | 16:20 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, yes, doing that next | 16:22 |
| Trevinho | seb128: thanks | 16:22 |
| seb128 | yw! | 16:22 |
| willcooke | BOOM! | 16:48 |
| willcooke | compiz (core) - Debug: - x: 325 y: 250 width: 374 height: 270 border: 0, sibling: 0x2600093 | 16:48 |
| willcooke | XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" | 16:48 |
| willcooke | after 24793 requests (24793 known processed) with 1 events remaining. | 16:48 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, hikiko, cyphermox davmor2 ^ | 16:48 |
| Trevinho | Mh | 16:48 |
| willcooke | so is that X crashing underneath? | 16:49 |
| Trevinho | Mh, it might be also that compiz refers to some resource that is not available anymore | 16:49 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: are you running compiz in debug mode there? | 16:49 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, yeah | 16:49 |
| willcooke | oh | 16:49 |
| willcooke | and also | 16:49 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: recompiling it? | 16:50 |
| willcooke | via an SSH session | 16:50 |
| willcooke | DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace --debug | 16:50 |
| willcooke | just running it like that ^ | 16:50 |
| Trevinho | Ah, ok... As if you recompile it with debug mode it could give some more infos | 16:51 |
| willcooke | sounds like a job for hikiko and her super power machine | 16:51 |
| willcooke | cyphermox, Laney - any concerns with me using a PNG for the welcome slide? A JPG has a lot of horrible banding from the gradients, a PNG looks better | 17:07 |
| willcooke | thanks for the notes Trevinho | 17:11 |
| Trevinho | :) | 17:11 |
| cyphermox | willcooke: no, anything that looks good is fine | 17:21 |
| Laney | willcooke: sounds like a *better* idea to me | 17:24 |
| Laney | pngcrush / optipng it though ;-) | 17:24 |
| willcooke | Laney, ack :) | 17:27 |
| willcooke | thx cyphermox | 17:27 |
| willcooke | I've just had a chat with design | 17:28 |
| willcooke | the orange squirrel is clashing with the orange on the wallpaper | 17:28 |
| willcooke | so we're going with a white one instead | 17:28 |
| Laney | is it less scary than the werewolf? | 17:31 |
| willcooke | it looks a bit like a dinosaur | 17:31 |
| willcooke | https://imgur.com/fNAylqc | 17:45 |
| cyphermox | eep | 17:46 |
| Laney | cute | 17:46 |
| Laney | it's got the origami look anyway | 17:46 |
| cyphermox | looks like a charizard ;) | 17:46 |
| willcooke | haha | 17:46 |
| willcooke | this is what he looked like in orange: https://imgur.com/yrKnSdy | 17:47 |
| willcooke | also.. "the banding. it burns" | 17:47 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I like it :-) | 17:51 |
| seb128 | the white version I mean | 17:51 |
| willcooke | cool! | 17:51 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I'm testing you gtk patch, any idea why it doesn't work on gnome-calendar? | 17:53 |
| seb128 | gtk3-demo gets nice rounded corners but not the calendar | 17:53 |
| Trevinho | seb128: mh... | 17:53 |
| Trevinho | there should be no difference | 17:54 |
| Trevinho | but... | 17:54 |
| seb128 | do you get the issue as well? | 17:57 |
| Trevinho | seb128: i'm geting (gnome-calendar:2430): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.calendar' is not installed in xenial :o | 18:00 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Still there? | 18:00 |
| Laney | is it installed? | 18:01 |
| Laney | hi GunnarHj | 18:01 |
| Laney | 2 more minutes | 18:01 |
| Laney | the climbing centre is calling me | 18:01 |
| Trevinho | Laney: I have that... /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.calendar.gschema.xml | 18:02 |
| Trevinho | and it's compiled | 18:02 |
| Trevinho | but... | 18:02 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: I attached a patch to bug #1559070. | 18:02 |
| ubot5 | bug 1559070 in yelp (Ubuntu) "SVG icons not shown / "yelp </path/to/file.page>" fails" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1559070 | 18:02 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Saw you suggested it on the upstream bug report. | 18:02 |
| Trevinho | ah, well not org.gnome.shell.calendar... MHmhmhm | 18:02 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ^? | 18:02 |
| Laney | Trevinho: indeed | 18:03 |
| Laney | --fail-missing!!!!!! | 18:03 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: you ship those files already? | 18:03 |
| Trevinho | I got both in an lxc and in actual installation :o | 18:04 |
| Laney | yes it's real | 18:04 |
| Laney | probably a file not installed | 18:04 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Well, not in the package, bug in the HTML version on the web. | 18:04 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: yelp is downloading svgs from the internet? | 18:04 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: No. The web version is viewed with an ordinary browser. ;) | 18:05 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: The ubuntu-docs branch is used for both building the package and preparing the web version. | 18:06 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, Laney: ?! | 18:06 |
| seb128 | works here | 18:07 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: So you replaced the absolute paths with relative ones | 18:07 |
| Trevinho | weeeird | 18:07 |
| Laney | but where are those files? | 18:07 |
| Trevinho | seb do you have that schema? | 18:07 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, no | 18:07 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Yep. Have no idea if other packages are affected, though. | 18:07 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, which gnome-calendar? | 18:07 |
| Laney | 3.19.92-0ubuntu1 | 18:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, you have the issue as well? | 18:08 |
| Trevinho | gnome-calendar: Version 3.19.92 | 18:08 |
| seb128 | are you guys under gnome-shell? ;-) | 18:08 |
| Laney | yes | 18:08 |
| Laney | no | 18:08 |
| Trevinho | 3.19.92-0ubuntu1 | 18:08 |
| Trevinho | seb128: good try. No. | 18:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, can't be a --fail-missing, it's a one binary package, no .instlal | 18:09 |
| Laney | ah man | 18:09 |
| seb128 | works fine on a xenial daily install I did earlier today in a vm | 18:09 |
| seb128 | wth | 18:09 |
| seb128 | can you get a bt? | 18:09 |
| seb128 | oh | 18:10 |
| seb128 | year view | 18:10 |
| seb128 | doh | 18:10 |
| Laney | got it? | 18:10 |
| seb128 | yeah | 18:11 |
| Laney | #8 0x00007ffff5ab8fa5 in g_settings_new (schema_id=schema_id@entry=0x44754e "org.gnome.shell.calendar") at /build/glib2.0-SNH0tt/glib2.0-2.47.6/./gio/gsettings.c:962 | 18:11 |
| Laney | #9 0x000000000043aa9c in gcal_year_view_init (self=0x96f170 [GcalYearView]) at gcal-year-view.c:1498 | 18:11 |
| Laney | right I can look at that anyway | 18:11 |
| seb128 | it doesn't happen on my machine and I don't have that schema | 18:11 |
| Laney | later or monday | 18:11 |
| seb128 | I'm doing it | 18:11 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: your bug too | 18:11 |
| seb128 | it's a change in .92 | 18:11 |
| Laney | xnox: and your FFe | 18:11 |
| * Laney has a todo list now | 18:11 | |
| Laney | and is going | 18:11 |
| Laney | happy holidays seb128! | 18:11 |
| Laney | and bye everyone else ;-) | 18:11 |
| xnox | \o/ | 18:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks, have a good w.e and happy holidays for the week after that! | 18:12 |
| Trevinho | seb128: let me try with previous version though | 18:12 |
| Laney | xnox: ELECTIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN | 18:12 |
| Laney | & happy hols to you also | 18:12 |
| * Laney wave | 18:12 | |
| xnox | fun =) | 18:13 |
| Trevinho | bye Laney | 18:13 |
| Trevinho | enjoy the WE | 18:13 |
| * qengho lunch afk. | 18:15 | |
| Trevinho | seb128: so... yeah, it doesn't work there... Let me check, but there's something weird going on | 18:16 |
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| seb128 | Trevinho, Laney, had, I had gnome-shell-common installed | 18:21 |
| Trevinho | Ahhhhhh :) | 18:21 |
| seb128 | but I was looking for 'org.gnome.shell.calendar' | 18:21 |
| seb128 | the schemas is 'org.gnome.shell' | 18:21 |
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| Trevinho | seb128: anyway it's a theming issue | 18:22 |
| willcooke | yay | 18:23 |
| Trevinho | by using adwaita there, it works.... So for some reason the bg of that window is white | 18:23 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so by forcing GtkWindow { background-color: transparent; } it works... Thus... I need to figure out where it using that bg | 18:25 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, anyway, let me upload your gtk change and a gnome-calendar fix for the schemas issue | 18:25 |
| seb128 | you can sort out the gnome-calendar case later | 18:25 |
| seb128 | it's not an important bug | 18:26 |
| seb128 | you probably have more important work on unity | 18:26 |
| seb128 | and it's w.e time or almost ;-) | 18:26 |
| Trevinho | seb128: let me see whether it's something insinde the g-c thing. one sec | 18:26 |
| Trevinho | seb128: is there something inside the app forcing the style? | 18:28 |
| seb128 | I don't know | 18:28 |
| seb128 | I package it but I didn't look at the code much | 18:28 |
| Trevinho | mh, looking at the inspector, that color is defined by gtk-styles.css:5... Maybe it means it's something embedded? | 18:29 |
| seb128 | could be | 18:32 |
| seb128 | they have lot of custom rendering code to build the calendar views | 18:32 |
| muktupavels | Trevinho, https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/compiz/gwd-fix-tests/+merge/289535 | 19:00 |
| muktupavels | flexiondotorg, you should build also tests in compiz when you test your changes... | 19:03 |
| flexiondotorg | muktupavels, Understood. | 19:04 |
| Trevinho | muktupavels: since you're there... Could you please see if you can get these tests built by default and ensure they run on make check? | 19:06 |
| muktupavels | Trevinho, built by default when building debian packages? | 19:07 |
| Trevinho | muktupavels: yes | 19:09 |
| muktupavels | Trevinho, ok I will try to do it, but I will create it as separate branch / merge proposal. | 19:10 |
| mhall119 | seb128: maybe a stupid question, but what would be the consequences of appmenu-qt simply not depending on libqtcore4? | 19:13 |
| mhall119 | would the appmenu-qt code ever be used without qt4 being installed by something else? | 19:13 |
| seb128 | mhall119, that's a bit hackish but might work... you should suggest it on the list ;-) | 19:20 |
| mhall119 | seb128: done, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something obvious :) | 19:27 |
| seb128 | mhall119, I don't think you are, but I might be overlooking something as well, it's friday evening ;-) | 19:27 |
| willcooke | night all. happy hols seb128 | 19:53 |
| muktupavels | Trevinho, https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/compiz/build-and-run-tests/+merge/289547 | 21:09 |
| GunnarHj | infinity: Saw that you are about to accomplish the merge of glibc and langpack-locales. pitti mentioned it a while ago, but I thought you had postponed it. ;) My concern is the Ubuntu specific patches in langpack-locales. Are you about to move and refresh those to the extent they haven't been applied upstream? | 22:54 |
| infinity | GunnarHj: I'm going through them, yes. | 23:15 |
| infinity | GunnarHj: I would ask that, in the future, you file them as upstream bugzilla bugs, and poke me to get them committed upstream, rather than jamming them into Ubuntu as special sauce. | 23:16 |
| GunnarHj | infinity: Great. They have been upstreamed, but historically it has often taken forever before they get proper attention. If you have access to commit upstream, that's indeed a better way usually. | 23:25 |
| Fudge | matthias/doko use this channel? | 23:28 |
| GunnarHj | infinity: Btw, I was talking about upstream-upstream. Did you mean that or did you mean Debian? | 23:28 |
| infinity | Fudge: Tab completion says no. | 23:28 |
| infinity | GunnarHj: I am an upstream-upstream committer, yes. | 23:28 |
| GunnarHj | infinity: Excellent. :) | 23:29 |
| Fudge | infinity: I noticed too, but Berlin time is 12am so thought maybe hw as not around. bind9 in xenial has some problems with postinst I think | 23:29 |
| infinity | Fudge: In xenial, or xenial-proposed? | 23:30 |
| infinity | Fudge: If you mean the file overwrite oops, that's fixed in proposed. | 23:31 |
| Fudge | proposed it looks like | 23:31 |
| Fudge | yes I do mean that, I'll check again | 23:32 |
| Fudge | trying to overwrite '/usr/sbin/named-checkzone', which is also in package bind9utils 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-1ubuntu2 | 23:33 |
| infinity | Fudge: Yeah, that was the broken version. The newer proposed version should fix that. | 23:35 |
| infinity | In theory... | 23:36 |
| Fudge | is it published? | 23:36 |
| infinity | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-3 | 23:36 |
| infinity | Quite a while ago. | 23:36 |
| Fudge | thanks for the link | 23:37 |
| Fudge | wonder if it is not in the au archive yet Candidate: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-1ubuntu2 | 23:41 |
| infinity | Fudge: Some of the au mirrors are a bit slow. | 23:47 |
| infinity | Fudge: This, however, is a stellar reason why we recommend people do not run devel-proposed, ever. :P | 23:47 |
| infinity | Fudge: au.archive is 3 hours out of sync. | 23:49 |
| infinity | http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/ubuntu/project/trace/pepo.canonical.com | 23:49 |
| infinity | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/project/trace/pepo.canonical.com | 23:49 |
| infinity | Oh, which is normal for 3rd party mirrors. We only trigger them every 4h. | 23:50 |
| infinity | So, business as usual. | 23:50 |
| Fudge | thanks heaps, it' | 23:50 |
| Fudge | I was watching proposed for the isc-dhcp problems but they seem to be resolved mostly now | 23:51 |
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