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n1ckymariogrip: https://github.com/ubports/android/pull/400:05
n1ckymake sure that's right, though00:06
n1ckyvendor/motorola or vendor/moto?00:06
mariogripit's vendor moto, i edited it00:07
n1ckyok.00:08
mariogripn1cky: we need more developers at our team, do you want to join us?00:10
n1ckyyeah I'll stick around and help where I can.00:10
n1cky:)00:11
mariogripAwesome :) i00:11
mariogripi'll add you to our github group00:11
n1cky" You are now a member of UBPorts! " hooray00:14
mariogrip:D00:14
popeymariogrip: yo00:17
mariogrippopey: did you get past the issue?00:17
popeyno00:18
popeyI don't actually know what to do at this pointg00:18
popey-g00:18
mariogripok, you need to remove all apk files from vendor00:21
popeyok00:21
mariogripbut, i'll see if I can fix that globaly00:21
mariogripI don't really want to clone vendor repos due to copyright and stuff00:21
mariogripvendor = blobls00:21
popeyya00:21
mariogrippopey: It's good that we do this, then I fix stuff like this globally so it get easier to port :)00:22
popeyI agree00:23
popeyYou need an idiot like me to test this stuff :)00:23
mariogriplol, you're not an idiot! :P00:24
popeyI do a good impression of one :)00:25
mariogriphehe :)00:25
popeyso shall I wait to repo sync in a bit?00:26
popeyor do I need to do something locally?00:26
mariogrippopey: better if we wait so I can do it globally so this don't happen to next person that ports :)00:27
popeyok00:29
popeyfeel free ping me when I need to do something00:29
mariogrippopey: repo sync now00:41
jabawokDOH.. left my phone home today00:43
jabawokhmm... I can ssh into it on the home lan00:43
jabawokcan anyone think of a way to do something intellegent remotely, like forward calls etc?00:44
jabawokor trigger a screenshot and scp the jpg so i can see missed calls?00:44
mariogripjabawok: if you haven't port forwarded your router at home, you probably cannot ssh in to it00:46
mariogripalso, you need to enable ssh on the phone since it not enabled by default00:47
popeymariogrip: ok00:48
asdfjklsemicolonpopey I broke my Nexus 5. The Meizu is coming soon(tm) right?00:49
jabawokmariogrip, i'm ssh'ed in00:49
jabawokvpn to home00:50
popeyasdfjklsemicolon: i have no idea00:50
asdfjklsemicolonokay I thought you would know apologies00:51
popeyasdfjklsemicolon: I wish i did :)00:52
mariogripjabawok: mirscreencast -m /run/mir_socket -n1 -f /home/phablet/[image file]00:52
mariogripjabawok: I maybe you need to trigger screen wake up00:54
mariogrip- the I00:54
jabawokhmm. what wierd file format is that00:55
jabawokbrowser wont open it00:55
jabawokcheers btw mariogrip..00:56
jabawokfound the mirbacklight command as well00:56
* duflu is reminded to fix the mirbacklight on arale bug00:58
popeyhello duflu00:58
popeyit's wakey time down under00:58
dufluHey popey. What kind of timezone is this for you?00:59
popeythis is 1AM timezone01:00
jabawokanyone got any hints on a tool that can open a mirscreencast  "rgba" file?01:00
popeyjabawok: convert it with ffmpeg01:00
jabawokgimp seems to think its a silicon graphics iris image01:00
jabawokk01:00
popeyone mo, lemme pastebin a script I use01:00
jabawokoh awes01:00
mariogrip2AM here xP my sleep schedule is not working01:00
duflujabawok: Yes, let me find the command...01:01
dufluAlthough I would prefer we just wrote .png files01:01
popeyjabawok: convert -size 540x960 -depth 8 -alpha off foo.rgba foo.png01:01
popeythat'll do it01:01
popey(assuming that resolution - you need to get that right)01:02
jabawokah imagemagick01:02
popeyya01:02
popeyi have a script which pulls the rgba, converts and then uploads to my screenshot gallery01:02
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/15411946/ is a fun script too01:02
mariogripjabawok: here if you need to check size fbset|sed -n -e's/^mode.*\"\([0-9]\+x[0-9]\+\)[-\"].*$/\1/p'01:02
popeyit will connect to the device and stream video to your desktop01:02
jabawoki'll try it in a sec, gotta install imagemagick01:03
jabawokthanks guys this is good stuff01:03
jabawokall I need now is a way to simulate touch presses01:03
dufluYes, that one01:03
popeythats harder01:04
jabawokand we'll have a vnc approximation01:04
popeymariogrip: finally finished repo sync!01:06
mariogripoh, did it take that long?01:06
popeyya01:07
mariogripyou had more than one tread right? (-j10)01:07
popeydoh01:07
popeymaybe ㋛01:07
mariogrip:)01:07
popey30 seconds!01:07
mariogripoh, I just got a email to sign a petition.... The FBI is trying to force Apple to write software that could be used to hack every iPhone on the planet — and next week, a federal court will decide whether or not Apple has to comply. Take action right now demanding the court side with Apple and save security.01:07
popeymariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1541197701:08
popeyApple are on the right side IMHO01:11
nhainespopey: no kidding!01:12
mariogripYeah, Apple is right01:12
n1ckyMaybe.01:12
mcphailThey'll never make us disclose the source for Ubuntu!.... oops01:13
n1ckyThe legal precedent is a lot more murky than people are portraying it.01:14
popeymariogrip: any ideas/01:15
popey?01:15
mariogrippopey: working on it :)01:15
mariogrippopey: sync now01:17
mariogripremember -j1001:17
mariogrippopey: I'm not sure where the problem is located, so now I just remove anything that has with java/apk to do01:19
popeyok01:20
popeythat was quicker :)01:20
mariogrip:)01:20
popey24 seconds!01:21
popeymariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1541203701:21
mariogrippopey: can you check what's inside core/package_internal.mk01:28
mariogripbuild/core/package_internal.mk01:28
popeymariogrip: empty01:33
mariogrippopey: now sync01:41
mariogripsorry for this back and forth thing01:41
popeyok01:42
popeynp01:42
mariogripI cannot recreate it then i mess up my existing port, so I do this kinda blindfolded01:42
popey9 seconds dude!  😃01:43
mariogripalso do you have time tomorrow to do a new port? to the oneplus x testing the shiny autoporter :)01:44
mariogripI need a different name than autoporter01:44
mariogripportcraft :P01:44
popeyheh01:44
popeyportcraft is brilliant01:44
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1541213301:45
popeymariogrip: ^01:45
popeylooks kinda catastrophic01:46
mariogrippopey: cool we fixed the other issue, now this should be "easy" before I commit, try replacing skip_build_from_source := with skip_build_from_source := true in build/core/host_shared_library_internal.mk01:47
popeyok01:47
popey8 seconds ㋛01:48
popeymariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1541215101:49
mariogrippopey: sync01:52
mariogripif it fails now, could we continue tomorrow? (the clock is soon 03:0001:53
popeysure01:54
mariogripalso portcraft starts getting pretty easy to use, I did a port to oneplus x with one command :) (don't build kernel yet)01:54
popeyyeah, fails again, lets carry on another day01:54
popeyjust ping me whenever you're around and want to do more of this fun :)01:55
popeyI'll be around01:55
popeythanks!01:55
mariogripawesome thanks! :)01:55
mariogrip"fun" :P01:55
popey 😃01:55
mariogripbtw planed to release the pre-* channels tomarrow01:56
mariogripbut yeah, bye01:56
popey 😃01:58
popeyGO TO BED!01:58
popey /kick mariogrip01:58
mariogripHah I still have irc on my phone ;P02:01
n1ckyI wish it was possible to put --no-clone-bundle in the default section of the manifest03:46
n1ckyalso, if we feel strongly that -j6 isn't enough, we could up that to 10. :S03:46
n1ckyI'm still running into problems with `repo sync` "unexpectedly" hanging up, now that I switched my repo urls back to http (from ssh/git)03:47
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n1ckyI wish git was intelligent enough to try https as a fallback if it can't authenticate with git:// or ssh://03:47
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mptnik90, I didn’t move it: it was like that from the beginning, and it’s like that for all dialogs. Unfortunately dialogs aren’t implemented properly in the toolkit yet, so we’re missing things like always-visible buttons.09:09
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dpmElleo, would you happen to know how to change keyboard input in the unity8 session on the desktop? There is no keyboard indicator, and changing the input in the System Settings app seems to have no effect, the input is always English09:56
Elleodpmmmm..u10:06
Elleodpm: As far as I know unity8 doesn't support that yet10:07
Elleodpm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1412492 <-- there's a bug here, doesn't look like anyone's actually working on it yet though10:12
ubot5Launchpad bug 1412492 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "can't change the keyboard layout" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:12
dpmok, thanks Elleo!10:12
Elleono problem :)10:14
dpmElleo, would you happen to know the answer to the question in the last comment, so that we can do a workaround?10:14
Elleodpm: I don't I'm afraid, I don't really know anything much about unity8's handling of hardware keyboards10:16
Elleomzanetti: do you know much about this? ^10:16
dpmnp, thanks anyway!10:16
[tj]does anyone know how I can flash android on a bq e5?10:16
mzanetti?10:17
mzanettiwe're trying to land it10:18
dpmmzanetti, the keyboard fix on bug 1412492?10:18
ubot5bug 1412492 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "can't change the keyboard layout" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141249210:18
mzanettidpm, is there a question too?10:21
mzanettior did you just want to show me that bug report? :D10:21
dpmmzanetti, Elleo pinged you to ask if you knew the answer to the question in the last comment of that bug report, as he was trying to give me a hand10:22
dpmmzanetti, but if the answer is that the fix is about to land, then that's perfect :) I just didn't see the status updated in the bug10:23
k1l[tj]: iirc bq has tootls to flash their android images10:24
mzanettiyeah, we probably missed that bug report as it was reported on a time where it was really too early to work on it. and it's not like we really needed a bug report to know that this is required eventually10:25
mzanettidpm, long story short: it's in silo 4110:25
mzanettiwhich is getting some QA troubles10:25
mzanettibut well, still not giving up for OTA-1010:25
[tj]k1l: there wasn't a 'scatter file' in any of the downloads10:25
dpmmzanetti, perfect, that helps. So I'll just wait for it to land, fingers crossed :)10:26
nik90mpt, the official design pattern is to use dialogs *only* for confirmation. The rest of the stuff goes into a new page. The VPN stuff, hotspot configuration don't belong in a dialog atleast according to ubuntu-ux principles.11:44
nik90mpt, I understand your rationale to use dialogs..they may work on the desktop...but definitely does not work on the phone.11:45
mptnik90, I also wrote the toolkit spec for dialogs, and I’ve been working with Steph on updated design guidelines.11:47
mardytvoss: I've a branch to propose for location-service; should I target trunk or 15.04?11:50
nik90mpt, may I ask then why the new OOBE that's landing in Unity8 silo 41, is switching to using full screen pages instead of dialogs for even simple things like changing wifi password? Infact the design post at http://design.canonical.com/2015/09/why-the-first-impression-matters/ clearly states, "11:50
nik90    All the dialogs were transformed where possible into full screens. We kept the dialogs only to communicate to the user confirmation or error messages"11:50
morphisogra_: ping11:51
nik90mpt, it seems quite contradictory when unity8 does it one way while apps do it in another way.11:51
nik90mpt, http://design.canonical.com/wp-content/uploads/Image-2.jpg11:52
mptnik90, that was six months ago. I explained in detail the wi-fi password case here. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#wi-fi-authenticating>11:52
tvossmardy, please wait for my silo to land until proposing, shouldn't be too far off11:52
nik90mpt, I don't understand why you want to another set of screen restrictions on an already small screen (phone).. Looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=phone-wifi-prompted.png, a full page would be so much more comfortable to scroll and read through. Dialogs don't work on small form factors. It literally makes it a nightmare to use on the bq e4.5.11:57
mptnik90, “unity8” vs. “apps” is not a useful distinction here: That the first-run setup is part of unity8, and that wi-fi dialogs are also part of unity8, are both architectural accidents.11:57
mptnik90, that particular dialog isn’t implemented yet, so I’m skeptical of your claim that it’s a nightmare on the BQ E4.5. ;-)11:59
mptnik90, and dialogs in general aren’t properly implemented yet either. When they are, the body area should scroll just like it does for a regular screen.11:59
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ozzzhello fellaz12:01
ozzzI'm trying still fetch repo12:01
popeywhich repo?12:01
ozzzand why is there allways errors?12:01
ozzznow git tells me that:12:01
ozzzerror: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 50312:01
ozzzfatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly12:01
ozzzerror: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 50312:01
ozzzfatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly12:01
ozzzerror: Cannot fetch aosp/platform/external/libnl-headers12:01
popeygerrit is unreliable12:02
nik90mpt, Has the dialog pattern been accepted by sdk team? Reading through their roadmap for 16.10..I don't see dialogs being revamped in the roadmap..which leaves all dialogs that you will use in system-settings app broken for atleast another year.12:02
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ozzzpopey: but this is from official manual12:02
nik90mpt, probably why *none* of the core apps use dialogs. It only affects users in the meanwhile.12:03
ozzzpopey: how can I fetch good source?12:03
popeyozzz: i need to ask our IS people to restart gerrit I think.12:03
ozzzpopey: please if you have some free time for that12:04
ozzzI'm tired fetching it12:04
mptnik90, they know about it, certainly. We can’t just not use them: for example, it’s not reasonable to expect every app that does printing to use a page stack so that it can put the print settings in a page.12:04
popeyozzz: done12:04
ozzzpopey: btw the url https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/aosp/platform/external/libnl-headers/12:05
mptnik90, can you point me to this roadmap?12:05
ozzz404- not found12:05
nik90mpt, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2016/03/16/planning-the-sdk-16-10/12:05
ozzzpopey: thank you, I will restart script now12:06
nik90mpt, hmm I do see "new dialog component" planned for UC 1.3. Let's see what comes of it.12:06
mpt:-)12:06
popeyozzz: well, done as in "I have asked" - it will take a while to fix12:07
ozzzpopey: thanks a lot!12:07
popeynp12:07
popeyozzz: try now12:18
ozzzpopey: it works! thank you very much!12:20
bshahhello, anyone here who knows about ubuntu touch on nexus 5?12:25
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bshahanyone?13:12
[tj]bshah: I have run it13:18
[tj]bluetooth doesn't work13:18
bshahhmm, okay, I am looking for someone who develops it.. (basically something seems to changed in xenial that daily images doesn't work at all)13:20
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mariogripbshah: I currently develops to it14:19
mariogripwhat system-server do you run it off?14:19
bshahmariogrip: previously what we used to do was fetch xenial-preinstalled from cdimage.ubuntu.com and apply our customizations on it, however it stopped booting completely after image 2016021914:21
bshah(that is for plasma-mobile)14:22
bshahmariogrip: to debug it I recently just built plain current image, it is also not booting and stuck on google log14:23
bshah*logo14:23
bshahmariogrip: server for this is neon.plasma-mobile.org and channel is neon-mobile/live14:23
mariogripbshah: we recently had a issue with mir not starting, but I don't know if this is the same14:24
mariogripcan you adb shell into it?14:24
bshahwell.. somehow not even adb shell is not working14:24
bshahit gives us blackbox14:24
bshah:(14:24
mariogriphave you set adb to start at boot?14:24
bshahyes, I did try to add that config booting in recovery14:25
mariogripand replaced the adb with an unlocked one?14:25
mariogripadbd*14:25
bshahyes one at people.canonical.com/~ogra/adbd14:26
mariogripok, also did you disable *.usb.rc on the android side?14:26
bshahI don't understand that?14:26
mariogripthe unlocked adb wont work when android tries to start adb14:27
davmor2bshah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0quXl_od3g14:27
mariogripI have a system.img with that disabled, I can send it to you so you can adb shell into it14:28
davmor2bshah: is it that blackbox?14:28
bshahmariogrip: would be awesome.14:28
bshahdavmor2: :)14:29
mariogripok, give me a minute to upload it14:30
bshahthx14:30
bshahmariogrip: is device image on, ubports recommanded or system-image.tasemnice.eu ?14:31
bshah(for nexus 5 that is)14:31
mariogripubports14:31
bshaha14:31
bshahah..14:31
bshahmaybe I should switch to ubports.14:31
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mariogripwe also has the rc-proposed version, that's probably more stable than devel14:32
mariogripbshah: the plasma version is using mir right?14:33
bshahmariogrip: no, it is using kwin/wayland14:33
bshahmariogrip: working image is in neon-mobile/devel-proposed channel (same server above ^)14:34
mariogripoh, ok. we has an isse with mir not long ago14:34
mariogripissue*14:34
mariogripthis might be the same issue14:34
bshahhmm14:35
bshahmariogrip: got link to issue or something14:35
bshah?14:35
mariogripbshah: I haven't got time to look at the issue yet, so I made a quick workaround that just restart the hal/mir14:36
mhall119mariogrip: did you get the replacement FP2?14:36
mariogripmhall119: Yeah, I got it yesterday, haven't got around to test it yet, planed to give it a try today14:37
mhall119mariogrip: cool, let me know what difference the new screen makes14:38
mariogripmhall119: have been busy with portcraft :)14:38
mhall119mariogrip: also, when you can, please send out those emails about wifi (to kees) and sound (to abeato)14:38
mhall119mariogrip: I saw your OPX post :)14:38
mariogripmhall119: Yup, added to my todo list :)14:39
mhall119mariogrip: FYI, popey is helping us test all the porting documentation so we can start merging all the different docs we have onto one official source14:39
popeymhall119: OPX!14:39
mariogripOPX :D14:40
popeyExciting!14:40
popeyIt's a _lovely_ phone.14:40
mariogripmhall119: cool! I agree the docs need to love14:41
mariogrip(lot's of love <3)14:41
mariogripbshah: here is the system.img (android format need to be converted) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/hammerhead/system.img.tar.gz14:42
mhall119we also need fewer docs, there are three different porting guides atm :)14:42
mariogripmhall119: Yeah14:42
bshahmariogrip: okay, thanks.14:43
mariogripbshah: the ubports server has the workaround for mir, but I don't know if that will work with wayland14:44
bshahwhat is workaround?14:44
mariogripit just restarts mir once it has started the hal14:44
bshahokay14:44
mariogripI will be fixing the issue on the android side, but my todo list is overflowing....14:45
bshahno problem14:45
popeymariogrip: is now a good time to throw a pastebin at you :)15:35
mariogrippopey: yeah sure :)15:35
popeymariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1541538815:35
mariogrip-j16 little overkill for make maybe xP15:36
mariogrippopey: oh i see, we dont really need sepolicy, so you can just delete external/sepolicy and I will remove it from the manifest if that works15:38
popeymariogrip: the box isn't doing anything else, j16 seems fun :)15:41
popeymariogrip: without sepolicy it gets further :)15:42
mariogrip:)15:42
popeymariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1541550215:49
mariogrippopey: these are just warnings, it had fail before this15:52
popeyah15:52
popeymariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15415534/ full log15:53
popeyI run it differently now so capture full log every time, sorry about that15:53
mariogripok, no problem15:54
mariogrippopey: cannot find anything on the last log, can you run it again the same way as you did before?15:54
popeyok16:00
popeymariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1541561716:03
popeymariogrip: is it worth doing some kind of make clean?16:03
mariogrippopey: what is this? minecraft? :P16:03
mariogripthe logs also16:04
popeyoh16:04
popeywrong number16:04
popeymariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1541561816:04
popeytypo16:04
cwaynemariogrip, hey, just saw your g+ post on opx, good stuff :)16:06
mariogrippopey: oh, this might take a little while, I need to fix the recovery images16:06
mariogripcwayne: :D16:06
popeyok16:07
mariogrippopey: I didn't know it was this broken, I have the same thing on my build, but I have just made lazy workarounds (which is really stupid, I will do it correctly from now on)16:09
popeysweet!16:10
popeytop plan16:10
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TenLeftFingersLooking for advice on bug # 1377996 - I'd like to be a good citizen and be on standby to help triage, but it seems it's hard to reproduce. Should I just restore the Ubuntu system image or similar?16:18
TenLeftFingers!bug 137799616:20
ubot5bug 1377996 in dialer-app (Ubuntu) "[phone-app] is freezing on active call screen" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137799616:20
dpmhi dobey, alecu, I was wondering if you might know the answer to this question:17:11
dpmwhere does the apps scope launcher looks for icons on desktop files? Context: I was testing Dekko, installed from a PPA, on unity7 and unity817:11
dpm on Unity 7, the dash shows the dekko icon, but the apps scope doesn't show the icon on unity 8 (it shows the generic Ubuntu icon)17:11
dpm  the .deb package installs the icon in /usr/share/icons/, and the .desktop file refers to the icon without an absolute path17:11
dpm that is, it just says "Icon: dekko.png"17:11
dpm where is the best place to install the icon so that it can be found by both unity7 and unity 8?17:11
dobeydpm: can you pastebin the files list of the .deb package?17:12
dpmsure17:14
dpmdobey, here it is -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15416104/17:15
dpmdobey, I've also tried to manually copy the icon to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/dekko.png as a test, but without luck17:16
dpmthe apps scope cannot find it either on /usr/share/icons/dekko.png17:16
dobeydpm: i don't see any icons in that file list17:16
dpmdobey, L9 /usr/share/dekko.png17:17
dobeyah17:17
dobeythat is definitely in the wrong place17:17
dpmyeah, but seems the right places don't seem to make a difference17:17
dobeydpm: it should be installed in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/$SIZE/apps/17:17
dobeyand the .desktop should just have "Icon=dekko"17:18
dobeyin case it has dekko.png or something17:18
dpmdobey, yeah, it has '.png'17:18
dpmI'll give that a go17:18
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dpmdobey, that worked, thanks!17:23
dpmI now have two entries in the scope for dekko, though17:23
dobeydpm: so you installed it twice? once from the .deb and once from the .click?17:24
dpmone with icon, one without17:24
dpmno, no17:24
ogra_now just add two mice and try to get two cursors and you should be fine again17:24
ogra_after all you have two hands !17:24
dpmdobey, I installed it from the .deb, then I manually edited the .desktop file and logged into u817:24
dobeywell you can't have two icons in the scope if you only have one .desktop file17:24
ogra_you probably have another .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications17:25
dpmdoes u8 or the app launcher not autogenerate .desktop files?17:25
dobeyno17:25
dpmbased on the shipped ones?17:25
dpm.local/share/applications/dekko.desktop17:26
dobeythere's a click hook which generates the .desktop files in ~/.local/share/ when you install a click17:26
dpm/usr/share/applications/dekko.desktop17:26
dobeybut unity8 nor the apps scope copy .desktop files around17:26
dpmthose are the two .desktop files I've got17:26
dpmI didn't install a click, just the .deb package17:27
dobeyand the click scope does de-duplicate, so something must be different in them which causes them to not be seen as the same thing17:27
* dpm checks17:27
dobeythen you copied the .desktop file to ~/.local/share/applications/? or you used a menu editor app?17:27
* ogra_ also thought that u-a-l creates a .desktop file on first launch ... wrapping the exec call with aa_exec17:27
dobeyogra_: u-a-l owns the click hook that generates the .desktop files i think; i don't think it does anything on first launch17:28
dpmdobey, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1541621117:28
dpmso shall I just delete the one in .local/share, or just modify its Icon key so that it doesn't have the .png suffix?17:29
dobeydpm: ok, so delete the one in your home directory i guess. i have no idea where you got it from17:29
dpmwow, it's pretty old, I see too17:30
dpmyeah, will delete17:30
dpmdobey, and a final question: where is the best place to put the icon in clicks, and how should that be specified in the .desktop file?17:31
dobeydpm: in clicks it is the relative path inside the click dir; and the final .desktop file gets regenerated with the full path17:32
dpmso what should the original .desktop file specify? the relative path? or just 'dekko'?17:33
n1ckymariogrip: how is ubports using roomservice?17:34
dobeydpm: in a .click the .desktop file needs to specify the relative path17:34
n1ckyI can make a change to it so that it checks a ubp.dependencies, too.17:34
dobeyso icons/dekko.png or whatever17:35
dpmok, great, thanks dobey17:35
ozzzdear friends, please if someone has some time, can you please explain how to add CM source repo to source of ubuntu touch, for compiling to my device17:46
ozzzI can't get anything due to specific terminology17:47
n1ckyozzz: hey ozzz, can you give a little more details on where you're getting stuck?17:47
ozzzI just get that I need to add repo to source and create modified apparmor tuned kernel profile17:47
ozzzn1cky: hello! I have unofficial cm mod, but it been tested by me, and it really works17:48
ozzzI have git link on it's source17:48
ozzzI just cant understand what and where I need to add17:49
n1ckyAndroid uses a small script called repo to manage many source directories17:49
n1ckytry looking at .repo/manifest.xml17:49
n1ckyYou'll see various sources (eg: base URLs)17:49
ozzzunderstand17:50
ozzzso then I need add my url to this file?17:50
n1ckyNotice below the sources, a lot of definitions, each with a remote, and a path17:50
n1ckyYou need to make sure that you have a remote corresponding to the host, the name of the repository, and then the most important part is this path portion17:51
ozzzaha...17:51
n1ckyyou need to populate device/<manufacturer>/<codename> and kernel/<manufacturer>/<codename>17:51
n1cky(And probably vendor/manufacturer, too).17:52
n1ckylet me know if that's unclear or anything.17:52
ozzzn1cky: as I understand, I need to edit that file, add url of repository17:53
ozzzand then I need to run that script?17:53
n1ckynot exactly, no.17:54
ozzzor I need to put that device/<manufacturer>/... files manually17:54
n1ckywell, yes.17:54
n1ckydon't do it manually17:54
n1ckyYou need to add a <remote> tag in manifest.xml corresponding to your host.17:55
n1ckythen you need to specify the repositories necessary and put them in manifest.xml17:55
n1ckythen `repo sync`17:55
n1ckythen `. build/envsetup`17:56
n1ckythen `lunch`17:56
n1ckythen `make`17:56
ozzzyeah!17:56
ozzzeverything will be automaticaly?17:56
ozzzawesome17:57
ozzzn1cky: https://github.com/TeamRugby17:57
ozzzthis is the github rebository17:57
ozzzsorry here is the source: https://github.com/TeamRugby/android_device_samsung_apache18:01
ozzznow I get It! n1cky , thanks a lot!18:01
ozzzwill try to create entry in manifest.xml18:03
ozzzn1cky: and may I need to tveak the kernell konfig?18:08
n1ckyozzz: oh most definitely18:08
n1ckybut that's the fun part. :)18:08
ozzzyeah )) on regular pc , couple years ago I had a funny times with compiling my custom kernel )18:09
ozzznot a easy task for sure )18:09
[tj]is there a way to set an alarm that goes off in 20 minutes?18:16
nik90[tj], yes...just create one in the clock app... hell you can even set a timer using the 3rd party app in the UT store.18:20
[tj]how?18:23
[tj]I am using a third party app18:23
ozzzn1cky: please can you check18:24
ozzz <remote name="rugby"18:24
ozzz<------>  fetch="https://github.com/TeamRugby/android_device_samsung_apache.git" />18:24
[tj]I can create an alarm that goes off at 184418:25
[tj]but not a 20 minute timer18:25
ozzzdoes it looks ok?18:25
dobeynik90: sounds like you need to add the egg timer feature back into the clock now :)18:30
[tj]it was taken out?18:31
dobeyi think the original clock app had a timer, before the rewrite for the new design; but not 100% certain18:32
nik90dobey, we still don't have the proper API for that though :/18:32
nik90the 3rd timer app is sort of a hacky solution18:32
dobeywhat do you mean no proper API?18:33
nik90dobey, as in we currently only have the alarms API. Say we use that for implementing Timer feature, when the user creates a timer, it will appear as an alarm in the alarm list, behave just like an alarm ..which design found to be suboptimal and confusing.18:34
[tj]I was confused18:34
[tj]well, not really, but it is not nice18:34
dobeyconfusing versus non-existent?18:34
nik90dobey, that's the stand that design took.18:35
nik90I did check with them if it is okay to do what the 3rd party timer app does.18:35
dobeyi don't know what the 3rd party app does18:35
[tj]it creates an alarm for you at the right time in the future18:36
nik90well the 3rd party timer app essentially just creates a single-type alarm to mock a timer.18:36
nik90yup ^^18:36
nik90which is actually logically correct18:36
[tj]right time in the future as long as you don't change timezone18:36
nik90but then that timer appears in clock app's alarm list18:36
nik90which confuses users18:36
nik90doesn't open the timer app when the timer has gone off18:36
dobeyoh18:36
dobeyisn't there a way to send a push notification that will go off at a certain time?18:38
nik90we can...that's why you see a notification when an alarm goes of...but it requires indicator-datetime and SDK to add tags to the alarm object to distinguish that it is a timer to adapt the notification for the purpose of a timer.18:40
nik90however, at the time, the SDK team were reassigned to working on convergence and so on..18:40
nik90also we decided to hopefully ditch EDS and go with a simple dbus api where the clock app (or any app) can directly talk to indicator-datetime.18:41
nik90but that is a lot of work for another time.18:41
nik90this way clock app alarms/timers don't mingle with other app's alarms/timers.18:41
nik90separate database for each app18:41
dobeyno, alarm isn't push notifications; it's something else18:42
nik90alarm notifications are basic unity8 notifications18:42
dobeyright, push isn't involved afaik18:42
nik90they aren't push notifications. But if you want timers to use push notification, then how can u be sure that the device has internet access all the time to receive the notification?18:43
nik90and yes, mobile phones in India and other asian countries don't have 24x7 internet access. Users generally turn them of to save bandwidth.18:43
dobeyeh? it doesn't need internet access18:43
nik90how else can canonical service push a notification to a user's device?18:44
dobeyi meant to do something with the push infrastructure only on the device18:44
nik90ah ok18:44
dobeysince then a push helper could open up the timer app or whatever, pop the notification, and not be an alarm18:45
dobeyi just don't know if it's possible; i just know the bits are all there, technically speaking18:45
nik90hmm..yeah we never thought about the possibility of using push service18:45
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dobeynik90: well, it seems like it provides the means to solve all those issues, technically; i don't know if it's psosible for an app to send a local push notification that says "trigger this notification 20 minutes from now"18:51
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nik90I don't know either..haven't really looked at push notification to comment.18:52
ozzzguys, please can you check, this manifest entry looks ok?19:08
ozzzhttp://pastebin.com/jVeWW4Wg19:08
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ozzzfellaz19:57
ozzzanybody here? :)19:57
ozzzI successfuly added external repo19:57
ozzzsynced it19:57
ozzzbut now can't see in lynch menu the rarget what I want to compile19:58
ozzzplz can anybody help me19:59
n1ckyCan we get a shout-out to #ubports in the /topic?20:28
n1ckymight allow you guys to talk development while we handle new users.20:29
dobeyeep not another irc channel20:29
n1ckywell there's gotta be a better solution than what we have now20:34
dobeywhich is what? discussing development in here?20:36
n1cky1. ozzz trying to port20:36
n1cky2. you guys talking development20:36
n1ckyif you guys don't mind it, I can't say I do either20:37
n1ckyI imagined it more annoying to you than to us.20:37
dobeyporting is development20:38
dobeyit's on topic and useful for anyone else also trying to do ports20:38
n1ckyI see your point.20:39
dobeyand i already have too many irc channel windows in irssi :)20:41
daxand if there does need to be two channels, the other one should be under #ubuntu-* :P20:41
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n1ckyWhat do I put for copyright header?21:18
n1ckyMy name?21:18
n1ckyubports?21:19
n1ckyubuntu?21:19
n1ckycurrently it's cyanogenmod21:19
n1ckydo I even have to edit it?21:19
n1ckyother projects I've worked on have been strict about this type of thing, so if it's not a big deal then I won't worry about it.21:19
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Sony_Hallo23:27
Sony_Where here ?23:28
n1ckyInternet23:29
Sony_Herman ?23:29
Sony_German ?23:29
Sony_Helo ?23:31
NeedhelpHelo23:33
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k1l_better just ask the question.23:34
n1ckymariogrip: ping23:34
mariogripnik90: pong23:36
nik90mariogrip, I'm guessing you wanted to ping n1cky ?23:37
nik90;)23:37
mariogripyeah, sorry23:37
mariogripn1cky: pong23:37
mariogripmhall119: wut is this? https://launchpad.net/~iveworkedwithmichaelhall23:42
mariogripthat picture :P I love it!23:43

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