[00:43] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: All quite now
[00:44] <telegram> <Clifford>: *yawns*
[00:45] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Have you had a good day ?
[00:45] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Did you go out on the razzle yesterday to celebrate ?]
[00:45] <telegram> <Clifford>: just a bit
[00:45] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: That's good.
[00:46] <telegram> <Clifford>: my problem is getting home
[00:46] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: I keep trying to encourage the English folks to celebrate St Georges day,
[00:46] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: with little to no response 😞
[00:47] <telegram> <Clifford>: celebrate yeah, but some of them dont know how to stop
[00:47] <telegram> <Clifford>: lot of trouble apparently
[00:47] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Well perhaps I ought to suggest they take a day of on St G day
[00:47] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: lol
[00:48] <telegram> <Clifford>: that always helps
[00:48] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: There is a bit of a trend for going out every weekend and getting in a dreadful state
[00:48] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: English folk?
[00:48] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Yes
[00:49] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Don't get me wrong, I've had my goes at it too ?
[00:50] <telegram> <Clifford>: well aparently this St Paddys day cost us £2 million
[00:51] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Just installing Debian 8 on my Netbook, it is nearly done
[00:51] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: In tax payers money, for public celebration spending ?
[00:51] <telegram> <Clifford>: policing and damage done
[00:51] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Oh
[00:51] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Hmm !
[00:52] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: That's a sorry shame.
[00:53] <telegram> <Clifford>: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35831407
[00:56] <telegram> <Clifford>: that was the night before!
[00:58] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Oh no
[00:58] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: I spotted the Buckfastleigh Tonic Wine,..
[00:59] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: You go doo lally drink that crap..
[00:59] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: They make just down the road from me
[00:59] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: It's bad juice..
[01:00] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Apparently they drink by the lorry load in Scotland too
[01:08] <telegram> <Valoriez>: getting to bubbly-feeling is the fun part for me. After that, moar water! /me heads off to see the parental unit
[10:18] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:16] <clivejo> how much history does Telegram remember?
[12:34] <clivejo> yofel: I was thinking about that kipi thing.  Is there a reason for modifying the v4 one?
[12:34] <clivejo> in my head its more logical to change the KF5 version, to pull in the old one?
[12:35] <clivejo> but maybe Im missing/overlooking something
[12:36] <clivejo> ie mod the KF5 version to omit the icon files from the install file and depend on the KDE4 version which would install the missing icon files
[12:38] <clivejo> my logic is that the KF5 version is in development and might change in time, the KDE4 version isnt likely to change and is already out there installed on systems 
[13:09] <yofel> clivejo: the old version is unmaintained, so should die ASAP. We just want to keep it UNTIL the rest of the apps are ported is the way to go
[13:09] <yofel> so changing the one that will die in the future is the more future-proof idea
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[16:48] <soee_> clivejo: ping
[16:48] <clivejo> pong, but not for long
[16:49] <soee_> clivejo: what was your ppa ?
[16:49] <clivejo> huh?
[16:49] <soee_> i need kdeconnect you packaged once :(
[16:50] <clivejo> I use the KCI
[16:50] <clivejo> although it might be broken
[16:50] <soee_> you packaged once 0.9 i think
[16:52] <clivejo> yeah, but it didnt work
[16:52] <clivejo> the git I grabbed was at a bad time
[16:52] <soee_> it did for me 
[16:52] <soee_> there was fix browsing phone from dlphin
[16:52] <soee_> kci seems to have failed build http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdeconnect-plasma/
[16:53] <clivejo> its failing on the 386 build
[16:53] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/9353039
[16:53] <clivejo> amd64 should be fine
[16:55] <clivejo> !info kdeconnect-plasma xenial
[16:55] <ubottu> kdeconnect-plasma (source: kdeconnect-plasma): connect smartphones to your KDE Plasma desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0+git20150810-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 299 kB, installed size 1382 kB
[16:55] <clivejo> that needs an update :P
[16:56]  * clivejo goes off for some food
[16:56] <soee_> kci version works, uff :
[16:57] <clivejo> soee_: install that KCI one
[16:57] <soee_> clivejo: did it :)
[16:57] <clivejo> its the most recent
[16:57] <clivejo> :)
[16:58] <clivejo> 0.9?
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[17:01] <soee_> dunno, the one you linked me :D
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[18:10] <genii> Anything I can do for the moment about bug 1556666 to make apt accept kubuntu PPAs and ddebs.ubuntu.com instead of complaining they have weak keys?
[18:10] <ubottu> bug 1556666 in Launchpad itself "PPA (In)Release files use SHA1 digests for GPG signature" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1556666
[18:28] <acheron88> downgrade to and hold the 1.2.6 packages?
[18:33] <genii> Hm, might try
[18:34] <genii> Not found
[18:36] <acheron88> 2 secs
[18:37] <yofel> that should only be a warning?
[18:38] <soee_> yofel: can we put into archive new kdeceonnect or is it to late ?
[18:40] <yofel> too late not, but that's FFE material
[18:41] <acheron88> geneii: debs here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/1.2.6/+build/9316315
[18:41] <genii> acheron88: Thanks
[18:41] <acheron88> yofel: yes just a warning for ppas. some external repos broken still by it though I think?
[18:51] <telegram> <Clifford>: Yeah that's 0.9 + git
[18:56] <telegram> <Clifford>: @marcinsagol can you file a FFE for KDE connect?
[18:57] <soee_> i do not know how
[19:11] <telegram> <Clifford>: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess
[19:24] <clivejo> soee_: did you try?
[19:33] <sheytan> hey, do i get the latest neon iso build with plasma 5.6 with or without wayland?
[19:36] <clivejo> sheytan: Neon is a KDE project now, you need to direct questions to #kde-neon
[19:36] <clivejo> website @ http://neon.kde.org/
[19:58] <snele> yofel: sorry to bother you again with this, but i think this bug is very imortant for out-of-box kubuntu user "friendiness"
[19:58] <snele> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1490618
[19:58] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1490618 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Ship qtdeclarative5-xmllistmodel-plugin and libqt5qml-graphicaleffects by default" [Medium,Triaged]
[19:59] <snele> you marked it "triaged" a wile ago
[20:00] <snele> i don't know is it too late for lts
[20:01] <yofel> not for dependency changes like this
[20:01] <yofel> I added them to desktop recommends, so the next meta update should have it (which we need before beta)
[20:10] <snele> yofel: great to hear that! thank you 
[20:14] <clivejo> ah yofel!
[20:17] <soee_> clivejo: nope, no time today
[20:18] <clivejo> yofel: just a heads up, Ive opened a FFE for kdeconnect - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect-plasma/+bug/1559538
[20:18] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1559538 in kdeconnect-plasma (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Update to latest upstream version" [Undecided,New]
[20:20] <soee_> clivejo: maybe it is worth mentioning there that current version does not allow browsing phone from Dolphin
[20:21] <clivejo> soee_: mine does :/
[20:21] <soee_> clivejo: what version ?
[20:21] <clivejo> 0.9
[20:21] <soee_> this is not what is in archive
[20:21] <soee_> current = archive
[20:21] <clivejo> soee_: feel free to add that to the bug
[20:22] <soee_> and yes git/kci works fine
[20:22] <clivejo> this FFE is new to me
[20:23] <clivejo> I havent used the archive version in a long time, so dont know what works or doesnt!
[20:23] <clivejo> but I do think it needs to be updated for Xenial
[20:23] <clivejo> our flagship :P
[20:24] <soee_> cl we tested it like month or more ago when you build it back than
[20:24] <soee_> *we
[20:25] <soee_> anyway i posted comment, thanks for this FFE clivejo
[20:31] <yofel> ok, ffe done
[20:34] <clivejo> yofel: the packaging came from kubuntu_unstable branch, I need to fix the xenial_archive branch now?
[20:46] <yofel> yes, whatever is in _archive will be uploaded
[20:52] <clivejo> yofel: Im bit confused about these version numbers
[20:53] <clivejo> upstream they call it 0.9g
[20:53] <clivejo> but should we use letters?
[21:03]  * valorie is reading Debian Policy doc, but I've not got to the numbering yet
[21:26] <clivejo> if you have 0.9 then 0.9a, b, c so fore
[21:29] <yofel> letters are fine, even if unusual
[21:30] <clivejo> but if I have 0.9+git... and 0.9a+git.... which is higher?
[21:30] <yofel> latter
[21:30] <yofel> dpkg --compare-versions can tell you that as well
[21:31] <clivejo> so this commit is fine - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/kdeconnect-plasma.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=1eab8198f5e29cf07fa30d5327dd9326747ab7cf
[21:31] <yofel> yes
[21:32] <clivejo> why does KCI drop it?
[21:32] <yofel> although the locales change is meh
[21:32] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/9353039
[21:35] <yofel> no idea...
[21:38] <clivejo> maybe should just drop it too
[21:39] <clivejo> causes problems if I want to use the latest snapshot from KCI
[21:44] <clivejo> version number in plasma is 0.9 - http://s30.postimg.org/fvrg77rjl/Screenshot_20160319_214258.png