| mappps | schitts creek is really funny:D | 00:05 |
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| diddledan | wow, this page is seriously out-of-date: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FindingFiles | 00:06 |
| daftykins | most are ;) | 00:07 |
| diddledan | the links in the graphical section either 404 or report information for 6.06 | 00:07 |
| mappps | must br more uptodate docs? | 00:09 |
| mappps | how do people manage with cermaic floors | 00:12 |
| mappps | mine are always dirty | 00:12 |
| diplo | Brush and mop them, that's what I do.... I have 2 young boys and all their friends too :) | 00:13 |
| diplo | Joys of being a home owner | 00:13 |
| mappps | i brush but bits get stuck, so i mop and endup with dust bits everywhere | 00:13 |
| mappps | and its only me living here! | 00:13 |
| diplo | Vacuum after you brush as well, well that's what I do, get the bits the brush misses, I say I mop but I actually use a cloth and work my way from front to back and get bits with the cloth ( I don't do this very often ! ) | 00:15 |
| mappps | No vacuum rented place..i thought maybe i should buy one | 00:15 |
| diplo | If it's all ceramic, get one of those Dyson type things, great bits of kit, packs down small | 00:17 |
| mappps | handheld one? | 00:18 |
| diplo | yeah, couple of friends have got them and love them | 00:19 |
| diplo | I believe certain models aren't quite as good though. | 00:19 |
| diplo | Right bed time, gn | 00:21 |
| mappps | night | 00:25 |
| mappps | daftykins, diddledan what you lot all upto, | 00:25 |
| daftykins | x-files 10x05 here | 00:25 |
| mappps | ah] | 00:25 |
| mappps | seen;D | 00:25 |
| mappps | you should imdb schitts creek honestly its so fun] | 00:26 |
| mappps | what you think of x files so far | 00:26 |
| mappps | i was dissapointed tbh | 00:26 |
| daftykins | yeah, it's all a pile of crap so far | 00:27 |
| daftykins | i think they phoned the wrong Chris Carter | 00:27 |
| mappps | lol | 00:28 |
| mappps | i cant imagine il watch any of 10x again | 00:29 |
| mappps | gah i dont know where to get a foot rest here, a foot rest makes the tv watching experience better;p | 00:29 |
| mappps | and i need a desk and chair ;/ | 00:29 |
| daftykins | cor that place has doubled your age! | 00:30 |
| mappps | hahahaha no but seriously dont you use a footrest with your sofa | 00:30 |
| mappps | for watching tv | 00:30 |
| mappps | and a desk and chair would just help....im using laptop leaning on the bed- it sucks | 00:30 |
| daftykins | just a laptop? daym | 00:32 |
| mappps | well 2 and a tablet | 00:34 |
| mappps | but no desktop | 00:34 |
| mappps | you use a desktop? I was considerin getting a dell i7 desktop 23" monitor | 00:34 |
| daftykins | i'm in my lounge with the eps playing off the file server upstairs, via an amazon FireTV onto my TV | 00:35 |
| daftykins | kodi sideloaded onto the android running FireTV, neat little toys | 00:35 |
| mappps | hmm firetv good? i use a sumvision cyclone | 00:35 |
| mappps | but what are you usi ng for irc atm - and whats your main machine | 00:35 |
| daftykins | i'm on my new Dell XPS 13 laptop SSH'd to a Linux VM running on the fileserver upstairs | 00:36 |
| daftykins | in fairness it is an L shaped sofa XD | 00:40 |
| mappps | heh | 00:42 |
| mappps | how could i run a squid proxy and make all clients on the network use it wihout any config | 00:42 |
| mappps | not poss on a normal router supplied by isps? | 00:43 |
| mappps | cant install dd-wrt on this, with that its prob possible | 00:43 |
| diddledan | you need to redirect all port 80 requests to the squid instance | 00:43 |
| daftykins | i used to run squid as a transparent proxy on smoothwall, back in the day | 00:44 |
| daftykins | that ran on a standard PC with two NICs | 00:44 |
| daftykins | what's the actual desired end goal here though? sounds like a bit of an xy problem | 00:44 |
| daftykins | !xy | 00:44 |
| lubotu3 | The XY problem is when you need to do X, and you think you can use Y to do X, so you ask about how to do Y, when what you really should do is state what your X problem is. There may be a Z solution that is even better than Y, but nobody can suggest it if X is never mentioned. | 00:44 |
| diddledan | I ran snotwall with dialup and a single NIC | 00:44 |
| daftykins | crikey | 00:45 |
| mappps | to just cache stuff and filter | 00:45 |
| mappps | using lists and blocking access to malware/spyware and anything else on the list by default | 00:45 |
| diddledan | but you live on your own | 00:46 |
| diddledan | o_O | 00:46 |
| daftykins | ^ | 00:46 |
| * diddledan scratchy head | 00:46 | |
| daftykins | bit overkill an idea | 00:46 |
| mappps | ya i know | 00:46 |
| mappps | but still caching could be handy | 00:46 |
| mappps | somehow some sites load so slow? | 00:46 |
| mappps | yet im on 100mbit now and if i run a speedtest all is fine | 00:47 |
| daftykins | sounds like bad DNS | 00:47 |
| daftykins | well there's talk those tests can be faked easy by ISPs if they're running the server | 00:47 |
| diddledan | some sites load awfully slow due to the amount of third-party junk they pile in | 00:47 |
| mappps | ah | 00:47 |
| mappps | yea | 00:47 |
| mappps | google ads etc kinda scripts | 00:47 |
| mappps | included i take it | 00:47 |
| diddledan | that third-party usually tells everything not to cache | 00:48 |
| daftykins | mappps: are you using the standard DNS servers the ISP connection provides? | 00:48 |
| daftykins | time for custom and uBlock origin imo :) | 00:48 |
| mappps | ya i am | 00:48 |
| mappps | maybe i should try open dns? | 00:48 |
| daftykins | that or google DNS | 00:49 |
| diddledan | I use teh googlies | 00:49 |
| diddledan | google knows everything about me anyway so I might as well give them a bit more :-p | 00:49 |
| mappps | il try that | 00:50 |
| mappps | good idea | 00:50 |
| daftykins | 208.67.220.220 and 208.67.222.222 for opendns, or 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for the goog | 00:50 |
| diddledan | google's is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 | 00:50 |
| diddledan | daftykins, how dare you beat me! | 00:50 |
| * diddledan beats daftykins | 00:50 | |
| mappps | =] | 00:50 |
| * daftykins does a little jig | 00:50 | |
| diddledan | I *thwack* refuse *thwack* to *thwack* lose *thwack* | 00:51 |
| diddledan | :-p | 00:51 |
| daftykins | hey stop hitting mapps! | 00:52 |
| mappps | hmm | 00:53 |
| mappps | will the burger stand be open | 00:53 |
| diddledan | good plan | 00:53 |
| mappps | not sure, might close 2am...petrol stations cloe 4am-6am but its 20min walk;/ | 00:53 |
| mappps | id rather a burger than a sandwich ;] | 00:55 |
| daftykins | so glad a place near me has the microwave chicken, cheese and pesto paninis back | 00:56 |
| mappps | hahaha never had that | 00:59 |
| mappps | had those rustlers burgers...not great, but tbh id eat 2 when hungry | 00:59 |
| daftykins | the co-ops over here used to stock this Latvian chocolate bar that was amazing, but it's gone now | 01:00 |
| daftykins | in fact i've been finding it hard to get hold of scampi of late | 01:00 |
| mappps | scampi ? fish? | 01:02 |
| mappps | not had that in years | 01:02 |
| daftykins | yeah proper breaded scampo, mmm | 01:07 |
| daftykins | bit of lemon on perhaps | 01:07 |
| mappps | ;] | 01:10 |
| mappps | i like gambus pil pil;D | 01:11 |
| daftykins | eh? | 01:18 |
| mappps | its a food item | 01:19 |
| mappps | usually as a starter | 01:19 |
| mappps | google it, youll know it, maybe a diff name | 01:19 |
| mappps | its EVERYWHERE in gib | 01:20 |
| mappps | ;] | 02:17 |
| mappps | getting tired :D | 02:17 |
| daftykins | same, time to scoot | 02:18 |
| mappps | cya | 02:18 |
| mappps | finished e5? was it 6 eps for s10? | 02:18 |
| daftykins | i was through the nitro of the final ep yeah, but decided i couldn't handle that much disappointment in one night | 02:19 |
| daftykins | started to look like another silly one | 02:19 |
| mappps | heh | 02:19 |
| mappps | yea | 02:19 |
| mappps | which was the one with the man that wasnt a man | 02:20 |
| mappps | where they find him in that portaloo | 02:20 |
| mappps | didnt care for that ep | 02:20 |
| daftykins | #3 i think | 02:20 |
| daftykins | nah, it had a rather exposed Scully and that's about all you can say for that one | 02:20 |
| mappps | think they shouldnt have bought it back | 02:21 |
| daftykins | have you seen any of Californication ? Duchovny in that seems to be a bit like how he has acted season 10 | 02:22 |
| daftykins | he's called Hank Moody in that so i've taken to considering him to be Special Agent Fox Moody in X-Files s10 | 02:22 |
| mappps | ya i have | 02:23 |
| mappps | and i did like it at first tbh, first 1/2 seasons | 02:23 |
| mappps | but again, i think that dragged on - how much you seen | 02:23 |
| daftykins | i got through a bit of s2 i think | 02:24 |
| daftykins | long enough for him and the lass to part ways again | 02:24 |
| mappps | ya | 02:24 |
| daftykins | not a whole lot of substance to that series after you ignore the nudes :P | 02:25 |
| mappps | true | 02:27 |
| mappps | lol | 02:27 |
| mappps | watch any other series | 02:27 |
| daftykins | i still haven't finished off The Expanse, the newer Syfy channel sci-fi | 02:28 |
| daftykins | behind on everything really, i've only been interested in my work of late and the "rise of the tomb raider" game | 02:28 |
| mappps | ah yea expanse i havet seen | 02:29 |
| mappps | or colony..also meant to be good | 02:29 |
| HaloSponge | Morning .. just listening to LBC & the fact IDS has resigned. Accessibilty is important ! | 08:33 |
| HaloSponge | Had a fry up this g/morning. | 08:35 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 08:58 |
| HaloSponge | Morning MooDoo .. are tyhe birds tweeting where you are ? | 09:08 |
| * HaloSponge looks at birds in the field , eating worms. | 09:09 | |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:27 |
| HaloSponge | morning .. off to racketball. | 09:37 |
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| mappps | hi | 15:23 |
| m0nkey_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnv2ZhUqVRs :-) | 18:40 |
| mappps | hi | 20:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 20:32 |
| daftykins | \o | 20:33 |
| mappps | ;] | 20:33 |
| MonsterKiller | Hey. So, I installed python3.5 on Ubuntu from 'ppa:fkrull/deadsnakes' (I already had 3.4 installed). However, 'pip -V' still shows python 3.4. I've tried 'pip install --upgrade pip' but still showing 3.4. Any ideas how to get it to use 3.5? | 22:06 |
| MonsterKiller | (I need it for a virtual env. I created one with 'pyvenv-3.5' but pip is installing to lib/python3.4 not lib/python3.5) | 22:07 |
| daftykins | update-alternatives ; or check if it installe "python35" as a binary | 22:08 |
| daftykins | dpkg -L <package_name_from_that_PPA> might help | 22:08 |
| daftykins | (it'll list the contents of that package) | 22:08 |
| daftykins | highly unwise using a PPA though | 22:08 |
| MonsterKiller | daftykins, what am I looking for? It installed /usr/lib/python3.5? | 22:13 |
| daftykins | you're looking for its' binary. | 22:14 |
| daftykins | "file /usr/lib/python3.5" says...? | 22:14 |
| MonsterKiller | directory | 22:15 |
| daftykins | ok so check that directory / the command output for what it put in there | 22:15 |
| MonsterKiller | I can't access it as a directory but dpkg shows and entry for '/usr/lib/python3.5/lib-dynload' | 22:18 |
| daftykins | can you just put the dpkg -L output into http://paste.ubuntu.com ? it'd be a lot easier | 22:19 |
| daftykins | i think we're at cross purposes slightly | 22:19 |
| MonsterKiller | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15430123/ :) | 22:19 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 22:21 |
| daftykins | MonsterKiller: "ls -al /usr/bin/py*" ? | 22:24 |
| MonsterKiller | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15430167/ | 22:25 |
| daftykins | MonsterKiller: "/usr/bin/python3.5 -v" | 22:26 |
| daftykins | so i'm pretty sure you'd pick your chosen default via update-alternatives, but you might want to be careful there as i learnt the other day messing with python can brick an install | 22:26 |
| MonsterKiller | Python 3.5.1 | 22:27 |
| MonsterKiller | oh damn | 22:27 |
| daftykins | yeah so that's your correct binary for the version you want, but right now /usr/bin/python3 refers to python3.4 as you can see in that paste, as it's symlinked to it | 22:27 |
| MonsterKiller | Ah | 22:28 |
| MonsterKiller | hmm | 22:28 |
| MonsterKiller | Seems a big risk to take then :/ | 22:29 |
| MonsterKiller | Only need this for 1 project I'll be using a virtual environment for | 22:30 |
| daftykins | is this on a physical install or a VM? | 22:31 |
| MonsterKiller | physical | 22:31 |
| daftykins | yeah, here be dragons | 22:31 |
| daftykins | you might want to run it by the main #ubuntu channel, far more experienced folks than i with python - say i sent you ;) | 22:31 |
| MonsterKiller | Thanks for the help btw daftykins :) | 22:32 |
| MonsterKiller | I could try vagrant or something | 22:32 |
| daftykins | np! | 22:33 |
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