[00:05] schitts creek is really funny:D [00:06] wow, this page is seriously out-of-date: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FindingFiles [00:07] most are ;) [00:07] the links in the graphical section either 404 or report information for 6.06 [00:09] must br more uptodate docs? [00:12] how do people manage with cermaic floors [00:12] mine are always dirty [00:13] Brush and mop them, that's what I do.... I have 2 young boys and all their friends too :) [00:13] Joys of being a home owner [00:13] i brush but bits get stuck, so i mop and endup with dust bits everywhere [00:13] and its only me living here! [00:15] Vacuum after you brush as well, well that's what I do, get the bits the brush misses, I say I mop but I actually use a cloth and work my way from front to back and get bits with the cloth ( I don't do this very often ! ) [00:15] No vacuum rented place..i thought maybe i should buy one [00:17] If it's all ceramic, get one of those Dyson type things, great bits of kit, packs down small [00:18] handheld one? [00:19] yeah, couple of friends have got them and love them [00:19] I believe certain models aren't quite as good though. [00:21] Right bed time, gn [00:25] night [00:25] daftykins, diddledan what you lot all upto, [00:25] x-files 10x05 here [00:25] ah] [00:25] seen;D [00:26] you should imdb schitts creek honestly its so fun] [00:26] what you think of x files so far [00:26] i was dissapointed tbh [00:27] yeah, it's all a pile of crap so far [00:27] i think they phoned the wrong Chris Carter [00:28] lol [00:29] i cant imagine il watch any of 10x again [00:29] gah i dont know where to get a foot rest here, a foot rest makes the tv watching experience better;p [00:29] and i need a desk and chair ;/ [00:30] cor that place has doubled your age! [00:30] hahahaha no but seriously dont you use a footrest with your sofa [00:30] for watching tv [00:30] and a desk and chair would just help....im using laptop leaning on the bed- it sucks [00:32] just a laptop? daym [00:34] well 2 and a tablet [00:34] but no desktop [00:34] you use a desktop? I was considerin getting a dell i7 desktop 23" monitor [00:35] i'm in my lounge with the eps playing off the file server upstairs, via an amazon FireTV onto my TV [00:35] kodi sideloaded onto the android running FireTV, neat little toys [00:35] hmm firetv good? i use a sumvision cyclone [00:35] but what are you usi ng for irc atm - and whats your main machine [00:36] i'm on my new Dell XPS 13 laptop SSH'd to a Linux VM running on the fileserver upstairs [00:40] in fairness it is an L shaped sofa XD [00:42] heh [00:42] how could i run a squid proxy and make all clients on the network use it wihout any config [00:43] not poss on a normal router supplied by isps? [00:43] cant install dd-wrt on this, with that its prob possible [00:43] you need to redirect all port 80 requests to the squid instance [00:44] i used to run squid as a transparent proxy on smoothwall, back in the day [00:44] that ran on a standard PC with two NICs [00:44] what's the actual desired end goal here though? sounds like a bit of an xy problem [00:44] !xy [00:44] The XY problem is when you need to do X, and you think you can use Y to do X, so you ask about how to do Y, when what you really should do is state what your X problem is. There may be a Z solution that is even better than Y, but nobody can suggest it if X is never mentioned. [00:44] I ran snotwall with dialup and a single NIC [00:45] crikey [00:45] to just cache stuff and filter [00:45] using lists and blocking access to malware/spyware and anything else on the list by default [00:46] but you live on your own [00:46] o_O [00:46] ^ [00:46] * diddledan scratchy head [00:46] bit overkill an idea [00:46] ya i know [00:46] but still caching could be handy [00:46] somehow some sites load so slow? [00:47] yet im on 100mbit now and if i run a speedtest all is fine [00:47] sounds like bad DNS [00:47] well there's talk those tests can be faked easy by ISPs if they're running the server [00:47] some sites load awfully slow due to the amount of third-party junk they pile in [00:47] ah [00:47] yea [00:47] google ads etc kinda scripts [00:47] included i take it [00:48] that third-party usually tells everything not to cache [00:48] mappps: are you using the standard DNS servers the ISP connection provides? [00:48] time for custom and uBlock origin imo :) [00:48] ya i am [00:48] maybe i should try open dns? [00:49] that or google DNS [00:49] I use teh googlies [00:49] google knows everything about me anyway so I might as well give them a bit more :-p [00:50] il try that [00:50] good idea [00:50] 208.67.220.220 and 208.67.222.222 for opendns, or 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for the goog [00:50] google's is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 [00:50] daftykins, how dare you beat me! [00:50] * diddledan beats daftykins [00:50] =] [00:50] * daftykins does a little jig [00:51] I *thwack* refuse *thwack* to *thwack* lose *thwack* [00:51] :-p [00:52] hey stop hitting mapps! [00:53] hmm [00:53] will the burger stand be open [00:53] good plan [00:53] not sure, might close 2am...petrol stations cloe 4am-6am but its 20min walk;/ [00:55] id rather a burger than a sandwich ;] [00:56] so glad a place near me has the microwave chicken, cheese and pesto paninis back [00:59] hahaha never had that [00:59] had those rustlers burgers...not great, but tbh id eat 2 when hungry [01:00] the co-ops over here used to stock this Latvian chocolate bar that was amazing, but it's gone now [01:00] in fact i've been finding it hard to get hold of scampi of late [01:02] scampi ? fish? [01:02] not had that in years [01:07] yeah proper breaded scampo, mmm [01:07] bit of lemon on perhaps [01:10] ;] [01:11] i like gambus pil pil;D [01:18] eh? [01:19] its a food item [01:19] usually as a starter [01:19] google it, youll know it, maybe a diff name [01:20] its EVERYWHERE in gib [02:17] ;] [02:17] getting tired :D [02:18] same, time to scoot [02:18] cya [02:18] finished e5? was it 6 eps for s10? [02:19] i was through the nitro of the final ep yeah, but decided i couldn't handle that much disappointment in one night [02:19] started to look like another silly one [02:19] heh [02:19] yea [02:20] which was the one with the man that wasnt a man [02:20] where they find him in that portaloo [02:20] didnt care for that ep [02:20] #3 i think [02:20] nah, it had a rather exposed Scully and that's about all you can say for that one [02:21] think they shouldnt have bought it back [02:22] have you seen any of Californication ? Duchovny in that seems to be a bit like how he has acted season 10 [02:22] he's called Hank Moody in that so i've taken to considering him to be Special Agent Fox Moody in X-Files s10 [02:23] ya i have [02:23] and i did like it at first tbh, first 1/2 seasons [02:23] but again, i think that dragged on - how much you seen [02:24] i got through a bit of s2 i think [02:24] long enough for him and the lass to part ways again [02:24] ya [02:25] not a whole lot of substance to that series after you ignore the nudes :P [02:27] true [02:27] lol [02:27] watch any other series [02:28] i still haven't finished off The Expanse, the newer Syfy channel sci-fi [02:28] behind on everything really, i've only been interested in my work of late and the "rise of the tomb raider" game [02:29] ah yea expanse i havet seen [02:29] or colony..also meant to be good [08:33] Morning .. just listening to LBC & the fact IDS has resigned. Accessibilty is important ! [08:35] Had a fry up this g/morning. [08:58] morning all [09:08] Morning MooDoo .. are tyhe birds tweeting where you are ? [09:09] * HaloSponge looks at birds in the field , eating worms. [09:27] morning boys and girls. [09:37] morning .. off to racketball. === oro is now known as oro_uk [15:23] hi [18:40] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnv2ZhUqVRs :-) [20:32] hi [20:32] o/ [20:33] \o [20:33] ;] [22:06] Hey. So, I installed python3.5 on Ubuntu from 'ppa:fkrull/deadsnakes' (I already had 3.4 installed). However, 'pip -V' still shows python 3.4. I've tried 'pip install --upgrade pip' but still showing 3.4. Any ideas how to get it to use 3.5? [22:07] (I need it for a virtual env. I created one with 'pyvenv-3.5' but pip is installing to lib/python3.4 not lib/python3.5) [22:08] update-alternatives ; or check if it installe "python35" as a binary [22:08] dpkg -L might help [22:08] (it'll list the contents of that package) [22:08] highly unwise using a PPA though [22:13] daftykins, what am I looking for? It installed /usr/lib/python3.5? [22:14] you're looking for its' binary. [22:14] "file /usr/lib/python3.5" says...? [22:15] directory [22:15] ok so check that directory / the command output for what it put in there [22:18] I can't access it as a directory but dpkg shows and entry for '/usr/lib/python3.5/lib-dynload' [22:19] can you just put the dpkg -L output into http://paste.ubuntu.com ? it'd be a lot easier [22:19] i think we're at cross purposes slightly [22:19] http://paste.ubuntu.com/15430123/ :) [22:21] hrmm [22:24] MonsterKiller: "ls -al /usr/bin/py*" ? [22:25] http://paste.ubuntu.com/15430167/ [22:26] MonsterKiller: "/usr/bin/python3.5 -v" [22:26] so i'm pretty sure you'd pick your chosen default via update-alternatives, but you might want to be careful there as i learnt the other day messing with python can brick an install [22:27] Python 3.5.1 [22:27] oh damn [22:27] yeah so that's your correct binary for the version you want, but right now /usr/bin/python3 refers to python3.4 as you can see in that paste, as it's symlinked to it [22:28] Ah [22:28] hmm [22:29] Seems a big risk to take then :/ [22:30] Only need this for 1 project I'll be using a virtual environment for [22:31] is this on a physical install or a VM? [22:31] physical [22:31] yeah, here be dragons [22:31] you might want to run it by the main #ubuntu channel, far more experienced folks than i with python - say i sent you ;) [22:32] Thanks for the help btw daftykins :) [22:32] I could try vagrant or something [22:33] np!