[00:05] <mappps> schitts creek is really funny:D
[00:06] <diddledan> wow, this page is seriously out-of-date: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FindingFiles
[00:07] <daftykins> most are ;)
[00:07] <diddledan> the links in the graphical section either 404 or report information for 6.06
[00:09] <mappps> must br more uptodate docs?
[00:12] <mappps> how do people manage with cermaic floors
[00:12] <mappps> mine are always dirty
[00:13] <diplo> Brush and mop them, that's what I do.... I have 2 young boys and all their friends too :)
[00:13] <diplo> Joys of being a home owner
[00:13] <mappps> i brush but bits get stuck, so i mop and endup with dust bits everywhere
[00:13] <mappps> and its only me living here!
[00:15] <diplo> Vacuum after you brush as well, well that's what I do, get the bits the brush misses, I say I mop but I actually use a cloth and work my way from front to back and get bits with the cloth ( I don't do this very often ! )
[00:15] <mappps> No vacuum rented place..i thought maybe i should buy one
[00:17] <diplo> If it's all ceramic, get one of those Dyson type things, great bits of kit, packs down small
[00:18] <mappps> handheld one?
[00:19] <diplo> yeah, couple of friends have got them and love them
[00:19] <diplo> I believe certain models aren't quite as good though.
[00:21] <diplo> Right bed time, gn
[00:25] <mappps> night
[00:25] <mappps> daftykins,  diddledan  what you lot all upto,
[00:25] <daftykins> x-files 10x05 here
[00:25] <mappps> ah]
[00:25] <mappps> seen;D
[00:26] <mappps> you should imdb schitts creek honestly its so fun]
[00:26] <mappps> what you think of x files so far
[00:26] <mappps> i was dissapointed tbh
[00:27] <daftykins> yeah, it's all a pile of crap so far
[00:27] <daftykins> i think they phoned the wrong Chris Carter
[00:28] <mappps> lol
[00:29] <mappps> i cant imagine il watch any of 10x again
[00:29] <mappps> gah i dont know where to get a foot rest here, a foot rest makes the tv watching experience better;p
[00:29] <mappps> and i need a desk and chair ;/
[00:30] <daftykins> cor that place has doubled your age!
[00:30] <mappps> hahahaha no but seriously dont you use a footrest with your sofa
[00:30] <mappps> for watching tv
[00:30] <mappps> and a desk and chair would just help....im using laptop leaning on the bed- it sucks
[00:32] <daftykins> just a laptop? daym
[00:34] <mappps> well 2 and a tablet
[00:34] <mappps> but no desktop
[00:34] <mappps> you use a desktop? I was considerin getting a dell i7 desktop 23" monitor
[00:35] <daftykins> i'm in my lounge with the eps playing off the file server upstairs, via an amazon FireTV onto my TV
[00:35] <daftykins> kodi sideloaded onto the android running FireTV, neat little toys
[00:35] <mappps> hmm firetv good? i use a sumvision cyclone
[00:35] <mappps> but what are you usi ng for irc atm - and whats your main machine
[00:36] <daftykins> i'm on my new Dell XPS 13 laptop SSH'd to a Linux VM running on the fileserver upstairs
[00:40] <daftykins> in fairness it is an L shaped sofa XD
[00:42] <mappps> heh
[00:42] <mappps> how could i run a squid proxy and make all clients on the network use it wihout any config
[00:43] <mappps> not poss on a normal router supplied by isps?
[00:43] <mappps> cant install dd-wrt on this, with that its prob possible
[00:43] <diddledan> you need to redirect all port 80 requests to the squid instance
[00:44] <daftykins> i used to run squid as a transparent proxy on smoothwall, back in the day
[00:44] <daftykins> that ran on a standard PC with two NICs
[00:44] <daftykins> what's the actual desired end goal here though? sounds like a bit of an xy problem
[00:44] <daftykins> !xy
[00:44] <diddledan> I ran snotwall with dialup and a single NIC
[00:45] <daftykins> crikey
[00:45] <mappps> to just cache stuff and filter
[00:45] <mappps> using lists and blocking access to malware/spyware and anything else on the list by default
[00:46] <diddledan> but you live on your own
[00:46] <diddledan> o_O
[00:46] <daftykins> ^
[00:46]  * diddledan scratchy head
[00:46] <daftykins> bit overkill an idea
[00:46] <mappps> ya i know
[00:46] <mappps> but still caching could be handy
[00:46] <mappps> somehow some sites load so slow?
[00:47] <mappps> yet im on 100mbit now and if i run a speedtest all is fine
[00:47] <daftykins> sounds like bad DNS
[00:47] <daftykins> well there's talk those tests can be faked easy by ISPs if they're running the server
[00:47] <diddledan> some sites load awfully slow due to the amount of third-party junk they pile in
[00:47] <mappps> ah
[00:47] <mappps> yea
[00:47] <mappps> google ads etc kinda scripts
[00:47] <mappps> included i take it
[00:48] <diddledan> that third-party usually tells everything not to cache
[00:48] <daftykins> mappps: are you using the standard DNS servers the ISP connection provides?
[00:48] <daftykins> time for custom and uBlock origin imo :)
[00:48] <mappps> ya i am
[00:48] <mappps> maybe i should try open dns?
[00:49] <daftykins> that or google DNS
[00:49] <diddledan> I use teh googlies
[00:49] <diddledan> google knows everything about me anyway so I might as well give them a bit more :-p
[00:50] <mappps> il try that
[00:50] <mappps> good idea
[00:50] <daftykins> 208.67.220.220 and 208.67.222.222 for opendns, or 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for the goog
[00:50] <diddledan> google's is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[00:50] <diddledan> daftykins, how dare you beat me!
[00:50]  * diddledan beats daftykins
[00:50] <mappps> =]
[00:50]  * daftykins does a little jig
[00:51] <diddledan> I *thwack* refuse *thwack* to *thwack* lose *thwack*
[00:51] <diddledan> :-p
[00:52] <daftykins> hey stop hitting mapps!
[00:53] <mappps> hmm
[00:53] <mappps> will the burger stand be open
[00:53] <diddledan> good plan
[00:53] <mappps> not sure, might close 2am...petrol stations cloe 4am-6am but its 20min walk;/
[00:55] <mappps> id rather a burger than a sandwich ;]
[00:56] <daftykins> so glad a place near me has the microwave chicken, cheese and pesto paninis back
[00:59] <mappps> hahaha never had that
[00:59] <mappps> had those rustlers burgers...not great, but tbh id eat 2 when hungry
[01:00] <daftykins> the co-ops over here used to stock this Latvian chocolate bar that was amazing, but it's gone now
[01:00] <daftykins> in fact i've been finding it hard to get hold of scampi of late
[01:02] <mappps> scampi ? fish?
[01:02] <mappps> not had that in years
[01:07] <daftykins> yeah proper breaded scampo, mmm
[01:07] <daftykins> bit of lemon on perhaps
[01:10] <mappps> ;]
[01:11] <mappps> i like gambus pil pil;D
[01:18] <daftykins> eh?
[01:19] <mappps> its a food item
[01:19] <mappps> usually as a starter
[01:19] <mappps> google it, youll know it, maybe a diff name
[01:20] <mappps> its EVERYWHERE in gib
[02:17] <mappps> ;]
[02:17] <mappps> getting tired :D
[02:18] <daftykins> same, time to scoot
[02:18] <mappps> cya
[02:18] <mappps> finished e5? was it 6 eps for s10?
[02:19] <daftykins> i was through the nitro of the final ep yeah, but decided i couldn't handle that much disappointment in one night
[02:19] <daftykins> started to look like another silly one
[02:19] <mappps> heh
[02:19] <mappps> yea
[02:20] <mappps> which was the one with the man that wasnt a man
[02:20] <mappps> where they find him in that portaloo
[02:20] <mappps> didnt care for that ep
[02:20] <daftykins> #3 i think
[02:20] <daftykins> nah, it had a rather exposed Scully and that's about all you can say for that one
[02:21] <mappps> think they shouldnt have bought it back
[02:22] <daftykins> have you seen any of Californication ? Duchovny in that seems to be a bit like how he has acted season 10
[02:22] <daftykins> he's called Hank Moody in that so i've taken to considering him to be Special Agent Fox Moody in X-Files s10
[02:23] <mappps> ya i have
[02:23] <mappps> and i did like it at first tbh, first 1/2 seasons
[02:23] <mappps> but again, i think that dragged on - how much you seen
[02:24] <daftykins> i got through a bit of s2 i think
[02:24] <daftykins> long enough for him and the lass to part ways again
[02:24] <mappps> ya
[02:25] <daftykins> not a whole lot of substance to that series after you ignore the nudes :P
[02:27] <mappps> true
[02:27] <mappps> lol
[02:27] <mappps> watch any other series
[02:28] <daftykins> i still haven't finished off The Expanse, the newer Syfy channel sci-fi
[02:28] <daftykins> behind on everything really, i've only been interested in my work of late and the "rise of the tomb raider" game
[02:29] <mappps> ah yea expanse i havet seen
[02:29] <mappps> or colony..also meant to be good
[08:33] <HaloSponge> Morning .. just listening to LBC & the fact IDS has resigned. Accessibilty is important !
[08:35] <HaloSponge> Had a fry up this g/morning.
[08:58] <MooDoo> morning all
[09:08] <HaloSponge> Morning MooDoo .. are tyhe birds tweeting where you are ?
[09:09]  * HaloSponge looks at birds in the field , eating worms.
[09:27] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:37] <HaloSponge> morning .. off to racketball.
[15:23] <mappps> hi
[18:40] <m0nkey_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnv2ZhUqVRs  :-)
[20:32] <mappps> hi
[20:32] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[20:33] <daftykins> \o
[20:33] <mappps> ;]
[22:06] <MonsterKiller> Hey. So, I installed python3.5 on Ubuntu from 'ppa:fkrull/deadsnakes' (I already had 3.4 installed). However, 'pip -V' still shows python 3.4. I've tried 'pip install --upgrade pip' but still showing 3.4. Any ideas how to get it to use 3.5?
[22:07] <MonsterKiller> (I need it for a virtual env. I created one with 'pyvenv-3.5' but pip is installing to lib/python3.4 not lib/python3.5)
[22:08] <daftykins> update-alternatives ; or check if it installe "python35" as a binary
[22:08] <daftykins> dpkg -L <package_name_from_that_PPA> might help
[22:08] <daftykins> (it'll list the contents of that package)
[22:08] <daftykins> highly unwise using a PPA though
[22:13] <MonsterKiller> daftykins, what am I looking for? It installed /usr/lib/python3.5?
[22:14] <daftykins> you're looking for its' binary.
[22:14] <daftykins> "file /usr/lib/python3.5" says...?
[22:15] <MonsterKiller> directory
[22:15] <daftykins> ok so check that directory / the command output for what it put in there
[22:18] <MonsterKiller> I can't access it as a directory but dpkg shows and entry for '/usr/lib/python3.5/lib-dynload'
[22:19] <daftykins> can you just put the dpkg -L output into http://paste.ubuntu.com ? it'd be a lot easier
[22:19] <daftykins> i think we're at cross purposes slightly
[22:19] <MonsterKiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15430123/ :)
[22:21] <daftykins> hrmm
[22:24] <daftykins> MonsterKiller: "ls -al /usr/bin/py*" ?
[22:25] <MonsterKiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15430167/
[22:26] <daftykins> MonsterKiller: "/usr/bin/python3.5 -v"
[22:26] <daftykins> so i'm pretty sure you'd pick your chosen default via update-alternatives, but you might want to be careful there as i learnt the other day messing with python can brick an install
[22:27] <MonsterKiller> Python 3.5.1
[22:27] <MonsterKiller> oh damn
[22:27] <daftykins> yeah so that's your correct binary for the version you want, but right now /usr/bin/python3 refers to python3.4 as you can see in that paste, as it's symlinked to it
[22:28] <MonsterKiller> Ah
[22:28] <MonsterKiller> hmm
[22:29] <MonsterKiller> Seems a big risk to take then :/
[22:30] <MonsterKiller> Only need this for 1 project I'll be using a virtual environment for
[22:31] <daftykins> is this on a physical install or a VM?
[22:31] <MonsterKiller> physical
[22:31] <daftykins> yeah, here be dragons
[22:31] <daftykins> you might want to run it by the main #ubuntu channel, far more experienced folks than i with python - say i sent you ;)
[22:32] <MonsterKiller> Thanks for the help btw daftykins :)
[22:32] <MonsterKiller> I could try vagrant or something
[22:33] <daftykins> np!