| magespawn | good morning | 06:06 |
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| chesedo | hi magespawn Kilos | 07:16 |
| Kilos | morning chesedo magespawn and all others | 07:17 |
| Kilos | inetpro ty for topic update | 07:17 |
| chesedo | Maaz: tell inetpro ok, thanks | 07:18 |
| Maaz | chesedo: Got it, I'll tell inetpro on freenode | 07:18 |
| chesedo | Kilos: how do i get the last meeting minutes | 07:19 |
| Kilos | hm... | 07:19 |
| Kilos | Maaz minutes | 07:19 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Sorry, no meeting in progress. | 07:19 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 07:20 |
| chesedo | Maaz: last minutes | 07:20 |
| Maaz | chesedo: What? | 07:20 |
| chesedo | brr.. | 07:20 |
| Kilos | if we remember to tell him everytime we will know where they are | 07:20 |
| Kilos | oh | 07:20 |
| Kilos | if you look in logs the night of the meeting you should see them | 07:21 |
| chesedo | ok Kilos | 07:21 |
| Kilos | i dont know is he posts it there though | 07:21 |
| Kilos | should be directly after the end meeting command | 07:22 |
| chesedo | Kilos: found it ty... the next agenda also seem right to you? | 07:27 |
| Kilos | tell Maaz where to find the minutes | 07:28 |
| Kilos | i just read the logs of that meeting | 07:29 |
| Kilos | well skimmed and see nothing from maaz | 07:29 |
| Kilos | and what a job to find the rights logs | 07:29 |
| Kilos | yeah agenda seems ok | 07:31 |
| Kilos | i missed kmf yesterday, slept the whole avy away | 07:31 |
| chesedo | Maaz: last minutes <reply> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.html | 07:32 |
| Maaz | chesedo: Sorry... | 07:32 |
| chesedo | Maaz: help with factoids | 07:32 |
| Maaz | chesedo: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. | 07:32 |
| Kilos | is <reply> | 07:32 |
| chesedo | Maaz: last minutes is <reply> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.html | 07:32 |
| Maaz | chesedo: If you say so | 07:32 |
| chesedo | Maaz: last minutes | 07:32 |
| Maaz | Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.html | 07:32 |
| Kilos | now after each meeting you tell him forget last minutes and then add the new link to last minutes | 07:33 |
| chesedo | hmm | 07:38 |
| SilverCode | Ooooh, I see DebConf is happening in Cape Town this year | 08:03 |
| inetpro | SilverCode: and you can even register now at https://debconf16.debconf.org/ | 08:33 |
| inetpro | good mornings everyone | 08:33 |
| chesedo | morning inetpro | 08:33 |
| inetpro | chesedo: finding the minutes is simple | 08:34 |
| inetpro | just go down the rabbit hole with the latest agenda to figure the date | 08:34 |
| chesedo | lol | 08:34 |
| inetpro | or follow the other rabbit hole by going to the logs at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | 08:38 |
| inetpro | eventually there's some interconnect at some level | 08:38 |
| * chesedo usually goes the agenda version, but wanted to add Feb's which was missing | 08:40 | |
| chesedo | so hoped Maaz had them somewhere to not have to go to the logs | 08:41 |
| inetpro | chesedo: you can even browse the folder on Maaz's host | 08:42 |
| inetpro | see: maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/ | 08:42 |
| * chesedo just figured something new | 08:42 | |
| inetpro | but ssshhhh... don't tell anybody | 08:42 |
| inetpro | :-) | 08:42 |
| chesedo | ah, just what i figured | 08:43 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:26 |
| inetpro | chesedo: Rainfall/ Precipitation in Pretoria, South Africa http://www.pretoria.climatemps.com/precipitation.php | 09:39 |
| chesedo | inetpro: i was more interested in how march's rain stands up to the more local area's avg | 09:58 |
| inetpro | unfortunately don't have that on record, sorry | 09:58 |
| chesedo | we used to keep track of the rainfall to be able to compare them hence the interest... ok | 09:59 |
| inetpro | it's more than average at the moment, I'm sure | 09:59 |
| * chesedo things march's alone is about 1/3+ of the years here | 10:00 | |
| chesedo | thinks | 10:00 |
| Kilos | yes very wet march | 10:01 |
| Kilos | but way too late for summer crops | 10:02 |
| Kilos | inetpro plant cabbages quick | 11:18 |
| Kilos | if winter gonna be wet youll have nice cabbages | 11:18 |
| inetpro | you think we'll have a wet winter oom Kilos? | 11:41 |
| Kilos | well hopefully inetpro | 11:44 |
| Kilos | but plant near water anyway | 11:44 |
| inetpro | Kilos: have you got karee trees on your yard? | 11:45 |
| Kilos | but the ground is well wet now so its a good start with lots of nitrogen available | 11:45 |
| Kilos | what is that | 11:45 |
| Kilos | thron trees | 11:45 |
| inetpro | karee bome man | 11:45 |
| Kilos | thorn | 11:45 |
| inetpro | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhus_lancea | 11:45 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:45 |
| inetpro | an evergreen, frost hardy, drought resistant tree | 11:46 |
| inetpro | got a big shock this morning | 11:47 |
| inetpro | looks like a tree in the middle of winter | 11:47 |
| inetpro | being eaten up by something | 11:47 |
| Kilos | oh my | 11:48 |
| Kilos | ants termites or a bug | 11:48 |
| Kilos | where are they eating it | 11:48 |
| inetpro | the leaves | 11:49 |
| Kilos | i see our large pepper tree has most of the centre hollowed out and ants live there | 11:50 |
| Kilos | but when rain is coming the move out eggs and all for a while | 11:50 |
| inetpro | some kind of moth | 11:50 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 11:50 |
| inetpro | or bug... not sure... should go check again | 11:51 |
| * inetpro wbbl | 11:51 | |
| Kilos | even the hatched larvae of moths and things | 11:51 |
| Kilos | eat leaves like silk worms | 11:51 |
| Kilos | as jy dit wil keer inetpro boor n paar gate diep in die boom in , gate moet af wees, dan koop jy lennons balsem kopiva en gooi dit daar in en maak toe met n dowel of mooi styf passende stok | 11:59 |
| Kilos | dit werk ook vir vrugte bome om te keer vir wurms | 12:00 |
| inetpro | Kilos: https://plus.google.com/+GustavHMeyer/posts/E54FbDamoSA | 12:17 |
| inetpro | it's a bug | 12:17 |
| * Kilos looks | 12:17 | |
| Kilos | hmm... | 12:19 |
| Kilos | are there any whole leaves left | 12:19 |
| Kilos | but they evergreen sp will get new ones when bug goes to next stage | 12:20 |
| inetpro | only very few half eaten ones | 12:20 |
| Kilos | try identify the bug | 12:20 |
| inetpro | yeah, nature doing its thing | 12:20 |
| Kilos | the thing is there are many new bugs | 12:21 |
| inetpro | how do we identify the bug? | 12:21 |
| inetpro | I got a nice pic of it there | 12:21 |
| Kilos | mny were imported to get rid of other things and moved on to local stuff when they ran out of food | 12:21 |
| Kilos | ask tara | 12:21 |
| Kilos | haha | 12:21 |
| Kilos | she finds all kinds there and researches whether they good or not | 12:22 |
| Kilos | stupid girl even feels bad when stomping poisonous spiders | 12:23 |
| Kilos | hi kulelu88 | 12:23 |
| Kilos | Maaz google bug identifying site | 12:23 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Welcome to BugGuide.Net! - BugGuide.Net" http://bugguide.net/ :: "Insect, Spider, and Bug Identification - Information and Pictures of ..." http://www.insectidentification.org/ :: "What bug is this? - Amateur Entomologists' Society (AES)" http://www.amentsoc.org/insects/what-bug-is-this/ :: "Try This New Bug ID Tool from Raid® brand | Raid® brand | SC | 12:23 |
| Maaz | ..." http://www.raidkillsbugs.com/en-us/bug-id :: "Insect Images and Identification — Depa… | 12:23 |
| kulelu88 | yo | 12:24 |
| magespawn | inetpro: can you post the picture/ | 12:46 |
| magespawn | ? | 12:46 |
| inetpro | magespawn: 03/19 14:17:37 <inetpro> Kilos: https://plus.google.com/+GustavHMeyer/posts/E54FbDamoSA | 12:46 |
| inetpro | must be some kind of beetle | 12:47 |
| Kilos | no man a close up | 12:47 |
| Kilos | lake a lady bug | 12:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the 2nd picture is a close up | 12:47 |
| Kilos | llike | 12:47 |
| Kilos | pic just of the bug man | 12:48 |
| Kilos | not tree or leaves included | 12:48 |
| magespawn | i don't think your tree is a lancea though, maybe one of the other Rhus | 12:49 |
| magespawn | i will check the beetle when i get home, it is not one i recognise | 12:50 |
| Kilos | try spray some malation or something on the few half leaves | 12:51 |
| Kilos | otherwise photosynthesis stops and tree gonna battle to recover in winter i thinkl | 12:52 |
| Kilos | are those dead trees behind the same kind of tree | 12:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: a zoomed in version: https://goo.gl/photos/vVmSsrPVN8oqd26L9 | 12:53 |
| inetpro | do you see it now? | 12:53 |
| Kilos | ya post that on one of the bug sites | 12:54 |
| inetpro | that's from the same pic | 12:54 |
| Kilos | Maaz google beetle identifying site for south africa | 12:54 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Beetles of Africa :: The website for the Beetle Collector" http://www.beetlesofafrica.com/ :: "Family Catalog page - Beetles of Africa :: The website for the Beetle ..." http://www.beetlesofafrica.com/index-old.asp :: "Coleoptera (beetles) - Biodiversity Explorer" http://www.biodiversityexplorer.org/beetles/ :: "COLEOPTERA COLLECTION - various beetle | 12:54 |
| Maaz | families - Agricultural ..." http://www.arc.agric.za/arc-ppri/Pages/Biosystematics/Coleoptera.a… | 12:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: learn to use a proper browser that allows you to zoom in and out of pics | 12:55 |
| inetpro | :-) | 12:55 |
| Kilos | jy tender weer ne | 12:55 |
| Kilos | no amount of zoom can ever equal a good close up original | 12:56 |
| inetpro | see https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/image-zoom/ | 12:56 |
| Kilos | but that one is good enough to search further with | 12:56 |
| magespawn | inetpro: might be Rhus chirindensis, but the names have been changed i see to Searsia | 12:56 |
| inetpro | interesting | 12:57 |
| inetpro | magespawn: hmm... not sure I agree with that one | 12:57 |
| magespawn | http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantqrs/searsiachirind.htm | 12:58 |
| Kilos | identify the bug then see how to get rid of it | 12:58 |
| Kilos | forget the tree | 12:58 |
| magespawn | lancea leafs are supposed to be a longer and thinner | 12:58 |
| inetpro | magespawn: no | 12:58 |
| inetpro | these leaves are long when normal | 12:58 |
| Kilos | if you worry about the tree too much there will be no leaves left | 12:59 |
| inetpro | in the pic they've all been eaten up to look so funny as the fo | 12:59 |
| inetpro | s/fo/do/ | 12:59 |
| magespawn | the beetle looks more like a bug | 13:00 |
| magespawn | are the wings on the back hard like a dung beetle? wing covers? | 13:00 |
| Kilos | just spray some water with sunlight dishwasher in and see | 13:01 |
| Kilos | if bugs go then you have saved the tree | 13:01 |
| magespawn | is there only leaves on the tree no fruit? | 13:02 |
| inetpro | yikes! | 13:02 |
| * inetpro feels like becoming a real bug hunter now | 13:02 | |
| Kilos | hahahaha | 13:02 |
| inetpro | let me go see again if I can get an even better view | 13:03 |
| magespawn | the natural history museum in pretoria has a insect division that will identify it for you, also most universities | 13:07 |
| magespawn | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhus_pendulina | 13:07 |
| magespawn | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhus_tomentosa | 13:07 |
| magespawn | i doubt the second one though | 13:08 |
| magespawn | Kilos: some insects are specific to the trees or famalies of trees | 13:08 |
| Kilos | yes but finding the deterent is more important than identifying the tree | 13:09 |
| Kilos | its almost bald already | 13:10 |
| magespawn | these are bugs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemiptera | 13:12 |
| magespawn | these are beetles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetle | 13:13 |
| Kilos | so what is that one of the pros | 13:13 |
| magespawn | that is a good question | 13:14 |
| Kilos | its like a lady bug or lady bird i forget what we used to call them | 13:14 |
| magespawn | i would try this family for starts http://www.biodiversityexplorer.org/beetles/chrysomelidae/index.htm | 13:15 |
| magespawn | but that might be a shot in the dark | 13:15 |
| Kilos | we used to sing lady bird X 2 fly away home | 13:15 |
| magespawn | brb | 13:15 |
| Kilos | your house is on fire and your children are alone | 13:15 |
| Kilos | inetpro try dishwasher spray man and see if they leave | 13:16 |
| inetpro | two more pics added: https://goo.gl/photos/6t4XZWqBPk1voZ2B6 | 13:19 |
| inetpro | there's also little green worms amongst the bugs | 13:20 |
| Kilos | spray | 13:20 |
| Kilos | foget research for now | 13:20 |
| Kilos | do that at night | 13:20 |
| inetpro | these things fly away the moment you get near them | 13:21 |
| inetpro | and yes magespawn, the wings on the back are hard | 13:21 |
| Kilos | spray the leaves and see if it deters them | 13:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: surely it will deter them, what's the point? | 13:22 |
| Kilos | to save the tree | 13:22 |
| inetpro | there's very few leaves left | 13:23 |
| Kilos | save them | 13:23 |
| inetpro | surely the tree will not die completely? | 13:23 |
| Kilos | ai! ek sukkel | 13:23 |
| Kilos | who knows | 13:23 |
| Kilos | its going into winter bare | 13:24 |
| inetpro | I'm just asking | 13:24 |
| inetpro | it's an evergreen, new leaves will come soon | 13:24 |
| Kilos | are the dead ones behind not the same trees | 13:25 |
| Kilos | kill the cause not the symptoms | 13:26 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the tree looks small on the pic.. it's huge | 13:28 |
| inetpro | no way that I can spray the whole tree | 13:28 |
| Kilos | like if a jackal kills a lamb you dont spend weeks studying the carcasses woll and blood | 13:28 |
| Kilos | wool | 13:28 |
| Kilos | well inetpro | 13:29 |
| pavlushka- | !info wool | 13:29 |
| Kilos | spray those you can reach | 13:29 |
| pavlushka- | !wool | 13:29 |
| Kilos | and at least see in dishwasher can save some leaves | 13:29 |
| Kilos | Maaz define wool | 13:30 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Wool \Wool\ (w[oo^]l), n. [OE. wolle, wulle, AS. wull; akin to D. wol, OHG. wolla, G. wolle, Icel. & Sw. ull, Dan. uld, Goth, wulla, Lith. vilna, Russ. volna, L. vellus, Skr. [=u]r[.n][=a] wool, v[.r] to cover. [root]146, 287. Cf. {Flannel}, {Velvet}.] [1913 Webster] 1. The soft and curled, or crisped, species of hair which grows on sheep and some other | 13:30 |
| Maaz | animals, and which in fineness sometimes approaches to fur; -- chiefly applied to the fleecy … | 13:30 |
| * Kilos needs to sleep for a while | 13:31 | |
| pavlushka- | Wow, you people really got a smarter bot! | 13:32 |
| Kilos | yes | 13:33 |
| pavlushka- | Maaz define pizza | 13:35 |
| Maaz | pavlushka-: pizza n 1: Italian open pie made of thin bread dough spread with a spiced mixture of e.g. tomato sauce and cheese [syn: {pizza}, {pizza pie}] | 13:35 |
| pavlushka- | Maaz define yummy | 13:35 |
| Maaz | pavlushka-: yummy \yum"my\ (y[u^]m"m[y^]), adj. Very pleasing or attractive; especially, pleasing to the taste; delicious; scrumptious. [colloq.] Syn: delectable, delicious, luscious, pleasant-tasting, scrumptious, toothsome. [PJC + WordNet 1.5], yummy adj 1: extremely pleasing to the sense of taste [syn: {delectable}, {delicious}, {luscious}, {pleasant- tasting}, | 13:35 |
| Maaz | {scrumptious}, {toothsome}, {yummy}] | 13:35 |
| pavlushka- | I am gonna stick around, it will work for me as an online dictionary | 13:37 |
| pavlushka- | Wow | 13:38 |
| Kilos | pavlushka- you can pm the bot and not spam here | 13:38 |
| pavlushka- | Got it, Kilos | 13:38 |
| Kilos | good lad | 13:38 |
| pavlushka- | I just said if i need and help i can ask here | 13:39 |
| Kilos | yes | 13:39 |
| Kilos | just play with the bot in pm | 13:40 |
| pavlushka- | Sure, thanks for the suggestion, i got the point. | 13:41 |
| pavlushka- | I wasn't sure if its possible to pm a bot. | 13:42 |
| pavlushka- | Now i am. | 13:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:43 |
| Kilos | not all bots are the same | 13:43 |
| pavlushka- | Yes, your one is smarter | 13:45 |
| Kilos | of course | 13:45 |
| pavlushka- | And in the dev channels, ubottu was kidding me. | 13:46 |
| Kilos | inetpro i forgot to add, in the week spend researching lamb carcass the jackal came back for 3 more lambs | 13:55 |
| inetpro | Kilos: give me a break, it's been a few hours since noticing the bug | 13:57 |
| inetpro | I'll fix it soon | 13:57 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:57 |
| Kilos | what do you wantt broken | 13:57 |
| inetpro | bushtech: wb | 13:58 |
| Kilos | hi bushtech | 13:58 |
| Kilos | where you been | 13:58 |
| bushtech | howdy guys you well? | 13:58 |
| bushtech | fixing things | 13:58 |
| Kilos | yes ty and you | 13:58 |
| inetpro | bushtech: please help me to find the bug | 13:59 |
| inetpro | https://goo.gl/photos/6t4XZWqBPk1voZ2B6 | 13:59 |
| bushtech | great, computers running and had some welcome rain | 13:59 |
| inetpro | bug eating away on our Karee trees in the garden | 13:59 |
| bushtech | get some horbills | 14:00 |
| inetpro | hornbills eat these bugs? | 14:01 |
| Kilos | only hungfry ones | 14:01 |
| Kilos | hungry | 14:02 |
| bushtech | worth a shot | 14:02 |
| * inetpro goes shopping for hornbills | 14:02 | |
| Kilos | lol | 14:02 |
| Kilos | hhahahahahaha | 14:02 |
| Kilos | how you gonna keep them in one tree | 14:02 |
| bushtech | forget the local petshop | 14:03 |
| inetpro | ai! | 14:03 |
| Kilos | i gonna sleep now | 14:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: too late for sleep now | 14:03 |
| Kilos | will be offline till waking or i gonna laugh myself awake | 14:04 |
| bushtech | blerrie mexican | 14:04 |
| inetpro | lol | 14:04 |
| Kilos | inetpro our big problem is | 14:04 |
| Kilos | nature could take care of itself till we started importing stuff to eat other things | 14:05 |
| Kilos | like the stuff imported to eat those plants on the dams | 14:05 |
| bushtech | what he said | 14:05 |
| Kilos | and they found better things to eat than weeds in dams | 14:06 |
| Kilos | same as cochineal | 14:06 |
| Kilos | was imported to kill wild prickly pears | 14:07 |
| bushtech | yep | 14:07 |
| Kilos | now the wild prickly pears survive and the cultivated ones get killed | 14:08 |
| inetpro | so who imported this bug of mine now so I can deal with them? | 14:08 |
| Kilos | first find where its from | 14:08 |
| inetpro | are you contradicting yourself now? | 14:09 |
| bushtech | is it just my imagination or is there a helluva lot of ubuntu updates in the last months? | 14:09 |
| Kilos | sigh | 14:09 |
| inetpro | bushtech: what version? | 14:09 |
| Kilos | spray the tree | 14:09 |
| bushtech | 1404 | 14:09 |
| Kilos | there are many bushtech | 14:09 |
| Kilos | mainly security | 14:10 |
| Kilos | and kernels | 14:10 |
| inetpro | it's a daily thing these days | 14:10 |
| Kilos | yes | 14:10 |
| inetpro | but worse if you go to the latest | 14:10 |
| bushtech | becoming a factor in my cap | 14:10 |
| Kilos | mine too | 14:10 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan wat het jy bebreek | 14:12 |
| magespawn | inetpro: on my way home, will let you know what i find | 14:12 |
| inetpro | magespawn: thanks | 14:12 |
| Kilos | go safe magespawn | 14:12 |
| inetpro | bushtech: it's a real nuisance but what's the alternative? | 14:12 |
| Langjan | Lmga, hi guys, Kilos die been van die ou wat Oz visums uitreik | 14:13 |
| Kilos | mooi | 14:13 |
| Kilos | nee nee man | 14:13 |
| Langjan | Hoe gaan dit met jou? | 14:13 |
| Kilos | die clearance mense | 14:13 |
| Kilos | ok dankie | 14:13 |
| Kilos | moeg maar mag nie gaan slaap nie | 14:14 |
| Langjan | OK sorry, gee die adres dan loer ek daar ook in met my beenbreker | 14:14 |
| Langjan | Hoekom mag jy nie slaap nie? | 14:14 |
| inetpro | superfly: what do you install for spell checking on quassel? | 14:14 |
| Kilos | http://www.saps.gov.za/talk/talk.php | 14:15 |
| Kilos | die pro se so | 14:15 |
| inetpro | Langjan: hy kan nie slaap as ek hom laat lag vandag :-) | 14:15 |
| Kilos | toe ek wou slaap toe vindhy goed om my besig te hou | 14:16 |
| bushtech | dont think saps do spellchecking | 14:16 |
| Langjan | Hi inetpro hoe gaan dit? | 14:16 |
| inetpro | goed self oom | 14:16 |
| Langjan | Alles wel dankie, dis gaaf | 14:16 |
| Kilos | bushtech meet our real ballie Langjan | 14:16 |
| inetpro | miskien ken die oom van die kewer wat ons soek... maar ek's seker mage[tab] sal hom vind | 14:16 |
| inetpro | Langjan: https://goo.gl/photos/6t4XZWqBPk1voZ2B6 | 14:16 |
| Kilos | dit vreek karee bome | 14:17 |
| Kilos | ou inetpro | 14:17 |
| Kilos | you sure its not the worms doing the eating | 14:17 |
| Langjan | prettier bugs than those that eat computers | 14:17 |
| inetpro | Kilos: that is a good question | 14:18 |
| Kilos | those worms most likely turn into those beetles anfter cocooning | 14:18 |
| Langjan | or their operators | 14:18 |
| inetpro | could very well be the worms, but the bugs are plenty | 14:18 |
| inetpro | worms are less visible | 14:18 |
| Kilos | break the cycle | 14:18 |
| Langjan | so are you looking for a solution for such bugs? | 14:19 |
| Kilos | spray the tree | 14:19 |
| inetpro | Langjan: ek het al amper gaan hornbills koop om die goed op te vreet :-) | 14:19 |
| Kilos | i hate easter egg adverts | 14:19 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:19 |
| Langjan | ine | 14:19 |
| inetpro | Langjan: nee, ek grap net... eers vandag die probleem raakgesien | 14:20 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you like eater eggs that much? | 14:20 |
| inetpro | make your own | 14:20 |
| bushtech | inetpro: whereabouts are you? | 14:20 |
| Kilos | they too expensive man | 14:21 |
| inetpro | bushtech: west of Pretoria North | 14:21 |
| inetpro | towards Wonderpark | 14:21 |
| Langjan | inetpro, theres a pharmacist in Pta who sells Bioway, harmless to humans and animals but keeps all insects away for long time | 14:21 |
| inetpro | Langjan: http://www.bioway.co.za/ ? | 14:22 |
| Langjan | That's it | 14:23 |
| Kilos | you came almost as if sent Langjan | 14:24 |
| Kilos | but try get him to spray the tree and listen to all the excuses | 14:24 |
| Langjan | Great stuff, we tried a 1 litre, lasted almost a year, have now taken 5 litres | 14:25 |
| Langjan | But a tree is a bit of a prob, how big is the tree? | 14:25 |
| inetpro | Kilos: that pic of the tree is from 2m upwards | 14:25 |
| inetpro | and it's not the only tree | 14:26 |
| Langjan | oh, so the pics are of the actual problem? eish! | 14:26 |
| Langjan | I can connect you with a retired entomologist who may have good advice... | 14:27 |
| bushtech | is that one tree dead? | 14:27 |
| inetpro | no, the tree is alive and well, just the leaves have been eaten away completely | 14:29 |
| Kilos | im sure as those things multiply unchecked they will destroy all them trees | 14:29 |
| inetpro | just eating the Karee leaves for now | 14:30 |
| Langjan | karee is indigenous, maybe bugs will stimulate them and go away in time | 14:30 |
| inetpro | I'm sure it will be fine again soon, but have never seen it eaten as harsh as this | 14:31 |
| Kilos | i would just check if the bug is as well | 14:31 |
| Kilos | if its imported you have probs brewing | 14:31 |
| inetpro | I'm sure others in the area will see the same thing... but I have no idea who has such tree here | 14:33 |
| Langjan | inetpro, whats the appro. size of the bug? | 14:37 |
| inetpro | good question | 14:39 |
| inetpro | very small actually but I didn't meassure the size | 14:39 |
| inetpro | length is definitely less than 0.5cm | 14:40 |
| inetpro | I'd say between 3 - 5 mm | 14:42 |
| Kilos | that sparay can you bought can spray up 2 metres | 14:42 |
| Kilos | spray | 14:42 |
| Kilos | save the tree and chase the bugs | 14:42 |
| Kilos | and drown the worms | 14:43 |
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| Kilos | everything went dead | 14:52 |
| Kilos | helloooooooo | 14:52 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 14:52 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 14:52 | |
| Kilos | maaz with cremora | 14:52 |
| Maaz | Ah! At last someone with taste | 14:52 |
| Kilos | Maaz and milk | 14:53 |
| Maaz | Now you're talking | 14:53 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 14:56 |
| Kilos | Maaz ty | 14:56 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 14:56 |
| Langjan | Sorry inetpro had to go somewhere, I'm in touch with my pal the entomologist | 15:00 |
| Kilos | mooi oom | 15:00 |
| inetpro | great, thanks! | 15:01 |
| Langjan | how long have they been on the tree and do they have a hard shell? | 15:01 |
| inetpro | yes, hard shell | 15:01 |
| inetpro | I only noticed this morning | 15:01 |
| inetpro | was raining this week so I didn't spend much time in the garden | 15:01 |
| Langjan | He's in Gouritz, signals not so good | 15:05 |
| Kilos | where is that place | 15:06 |
| Langjan | Just west of Mossel Bay | 15:07 |
| Kilos | whew | 15:07 |
| Kilos | you spread your wings wide hey | 15:10 |
| Kilos | bet you he isnt on ubuntu | 15:10 |
| Langjan | Hes not even connected exept with cellphone | 15:14 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:14 |
| inetpro | have added two more photos from another Karee in the garden | 15:15 |
| Kilos | teach him to use ubuntu and 3g | 15:15 |
| inetpro | also full of these bugs | 15:15 |
| Langjan | inetpro, he's watching the rugby, will get back to me tomorrow, will let you know. | 15:16 |
| Langjan | You can get advice here: http://www.daff.gov.za/ | 15:16 |
| inetpro | Langjan: no problem, thanks for all efforts | 15:16 |
| inetpro | who's playing now? | 15:17 |
| Langjan | No prob, he suspects they are larvae of moths or butterflies | 15:17 |
| Langjan | Lions and Cheetahs | 15:17 |
| Langjan | My team unbeaten but gave Bulls two pasella point last night | 15:17 |
| Kilos | yes | 15:18 |
| Kilos | strange that joe missed | 15:18 |
| inetpro | yeah, that miss was painful indeed | 15:19 |
| Kilos | the pros team as well Langjan | 15:19 |
| Kilos | ons is piesang peeps | 15:19 |
| Langjan | They celebrated too soon, put too much pressure on him - never count your chickens before they hatch | 15:20 |
| Kilos | yip | 15:20 |
| Langjan | Cheetahs 3-0 to Lions, watch here: http://cricfree.tv/watch/live/lions-vs-cheetahs-live-streaming | 15:21 |
| inetpro | wow, nice to see streaming services even if I will refrain from abusing my data for that now | 15:24 |
| inetpro | welcome back magespawn | 15:25 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 15:25 |
| magespawn | ty | 15:25 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:25 |
| magespawn | i think your beetle is a Blepharida ornata Flea Beetle | 15:26 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 15:26 |
| Kilos | from where | 15:26 |
| inetpro | wow, cool find | 15:26 |
| magespawn | page 250 of the Field Guide to Insects | 15:26 |
| Kilos | the flea part is right | 15:26 |
| Kilos | when he gets close they flee | 15:26 |
| magespawn | it is supposed to only be on the low veld but the unusual weather might have caused the movement | 15:27 |
| inetpro | endemic to southern India? | 15:27 |
| Kilos | oh my | 15:28 |
| Kilos | ya came in with a shipment of curry and spices | 15:28 |
| inetpro | magespawn: did you see my latest pics? | 15:29 |
| inetpro | also some green worms there | 15:29 |
| Kilos | aw i missed them too | 15:29 |
| magespawn | Family Chrysomelidae | 15:29 |
| Kilos | repost please | 15:30 |
| inetpro | look again, oom Kilos: https://goo.gl/photos/6t4XZWqBPk1voZ2B6 | 15:30 |
| Kilos | ty | 15:30 |
| inetpro | sorry for all the spam today | 15:30 |
| inetpro | all part of the Ubuntu culture here :-) | 15:30 |
| Kilos | oh i did look | 15:31 |
| Kilos | nice place you have there | 15:31 |
| magespawn | https://www.pinterest.com/pin/274649277253328818/ | 15:31 |
| Langjan | If they dont bore into the trunk I think it is unlikely they will harm the tree | 15:31 |
| Kilos | killem | 15:33 |
| magespawn | the adults are noted for aggregating on Rhus species | 15:33 |
| inetpro | magespawn: so you say one should make attempts to get rid of them? | 15:33 |
| inetpro | or let nature take its course? | 15:34 |
| magespawn | the tree should be able to survive it, it may be the late rain has caused them to all emerge at the same time | 15:34 |
| magespawn | they are south african beetles, so naturally occuring | 15:35 |
| * magespawn goes to do some more research | 15:35 | |
| Kilos | killem | 15:35 |
| superfly | inetpro: I've never consciously installed anything for spelling | 15:37 |
| Kilos | Langjan you got the name of them bugs now | 15:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: we don't kill our indiginous organisms man, they're all part of the circle of life | 15:38 |
| Langjan | Yes thks will follow up on that | 15:38 |
| Langjan | But agree with inetpro | 15:39 |
| Kilos | if it damages my stuff i stomp it | 15:39 |
| Langjan | in the end you damege yourself | 15:39 |
| Kilos | no | 15:39 |
| Langjan | ja | 15:39 |
| inetpro | lol | 15:39 |
| Kilos | they go eat the neighbours stuff | 15:39 |
| Kilos | like the jackal | 15:40 |
| inetpro | the jackal is a bad example | 15:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:40 |
| Kilos | well whe n the tree is dead then its too late to say i should have listened to kilos | 15:41 |
| Kilos | or at least have let him go sleep | 15:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: het jy al kos gemaak? | 15:42 |
| Langjan | Chhers guys, chat later | 15:42 |
| Kilos | nee sus hier vandag | 15:42 |
| Kilos | cheers Langjan | 15:43 |
| Kilos | t for the visit | 15:43 |
| inetpro | bye oom Langjan | 15:43 |
| Kilos | ty | 15:43 |
| Langjan | Slaap lekker | 15:43 |
| inetpro | I see score is now 17 - 3 for the lions | 15:43 |
| Kilos | against who? | 15:44 |
| inetpro | sorry for those cheetahs, but they won't make it today | 15:44 |
| Kilos | sis watching miss za so no sports for me | 15:44 |
| inetpro | superfly: I had spelling working in my previous version, can't remember what I installed | 15:46 |
| magespawn | that is about all the specific info i have, all the rest in on the family generally | 15:46 |
| inetpro | thanks magespawn | 15:46 |
| Kilos | well done magespawn q | 15:46 |
| magespawn | inetpro the natural history museum might be interested because they are out of their norma range and in large numbers | 15:47 |
| magespawn | np , i like looking things up like this | 15:47 |
| inetpro | natural history museum? | 15:47 |
| inetpro | magespawn: oom Lanjan is also in touch with an entomology buddy of his | 15:48 |
| magespawn | the one in pretoria central | 15:48 |
| superfly | inetpro: I know you also need to right-click enable | 15:48 |
| superfly | but I think aspell or one of those should work | 15:48 |
| magespawn | they have an awesome beetle collection | 15:48 |
| inetpro | superfly: oh wow, such simplicity... | 15:49 |
| inetpro | thanks again superfly! | 15:49 |
| Kilos | is that 16.04 inetpro | 15:49 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yep | 15:49 |
| superfly | Kilos: if you're using Quassel, it'll work on any version | 15:50 |
| Kilos | keep note of everything ill get there | 15:50 |
| Kilos | na spell checkers dont work when you speaks two languages mixed up | 15:51 |
| * inetpro was looking in the settings and everywhere else | 15:53 | |
| magespawn | aspell? | 15:57 |
| hibana | oom Kilos, konversation also has auto spell check | 15:58 |
| hibana | same place, just right click in the input line and enable it | 15:59 |
| Kilos | nee man wat dan van die taal | 15:59 |
| * hibana ignores the funny lingo | 16:00 | |
| hibana | bye | 16:00 |
| Kilos | only gives 4 english options | 16:00 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:00 |
| Kilos | cheeky | 16:00 |
| Kilos | jy baie parmantig goosie | 16:01 |
| inetpro | haha, sorry oom | 16:02 |
| inetpro | aptitude search "~ispell" | 16:02 |
| inetpro | that ^^ shows me I have the following installed: aspell aspell-en hunspell-en-us libaspell15 libhunspell-1.3-0 libhunspell-1.3-0v5 | 16:03 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 16:04 |
| Kilos | same | 16:05 |
| Kilos | oh inetpro | 16:05 |
| Kilos | i found a way to minimise miggies that eat me | 16:06 |
| inetpro | so I need either aspell-af, hunspell-af, myspell-af or hunspell-dictionary-af for Afrikaans | 16:06 |
| inetpro | Kilos: tell me more | 16:07 |
| Kilos | table spoon apple cider vinegar , tablespoon balsamic vinegar in a cup and make half full of eater | 16:07 |
| Kilos | water | 16:07 |
| inetpro | tried that | 16:07 |
| Kilos | then few drops the green liquid soap | 16:07 |
| inetpro | not helping much | 16:07 |
| Kilos | did you put soap | 16:08 |
| Kilos | also i found the congregate on tea bags we put in a bakkie then i empty once a weak | 16:08 |
| Kilos | week | 16:08 |
| Kilos | so i took half a cup of tea and put some insectiside in it | 16:09 |
| Kilos | also with few drops soap | 16:09 |
| Kilos | they both catch similar amounts | 16:10 |
| Kilos | inetpro did you put soap | 16:10 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I installed aspell-af and hunspell-af and restarted my quassel now Afrikaans is part of the list | 16:10 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no | 16:10 |
| Kilos | those things can walk on water to drink and the soap lets them sink | 16:10 |
| Kilos | so they drown | 16:11 |
| inetpro | what is eater? | 16:11 |
| Kilos | made a big diffs here | 16:11 |
| Kilos | huh | 16:12 |
| inetpro | oh water | 16:12 |
| Kilos | ya | 16:12 |
| Kilos | had me there | 16:12 |
| Kilos | i cant find hunspell-af | 16:14 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 16:15 |
| Kilos | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "hunspell-af" | 16:16 |
| Kilos | seems its only from xenial | 16:18 |
| Kilos | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hunspell | 16:18 |
| inetpro | just install the aspell version oom Kilos | 16:19 |
| Kilos | i wish i could find that app i saw months ago that said it can install any ubuntu package into any release | 16:19 |
| Kilos | i did | 16:20 |
| Kilos | hello inetpro | 16:20 |
| Kilos | eek all red arrows under your name | 16:20 |
| inetpro | mooi! | 16:20 |
| Kilos | goeie | 16:20 |
| Kilos | and there | 16:20 |
| Kilos | restart coming | 16:21 |
| kulelu88 | anybody working with ionic2 here? | 16:21 |
| inetpro | kulelu88: not me | 16:21 |
| Kilos | konversation so slow to get nick info | 16:22 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you mean after installing spell checking? | 16:24 |
| Kilos | no always | 16:24 |
| Kilos | nicks take long to show hosts | 16:25 |
| inetpro | just ignore it | 16:27 |
| Kilos | oh | 16:27 |
| Kilos | goeie dag | 16:27 |
| Kilos | nope all red arrows | 16:27 |
| inetpro | anyway, am happy to say that even LibreOffice does Afrikaans spelling with installation of the above dictionaries | 16:27 |
| Kilos | ok anothe right click | 16:28 |
| inetpro | nope | 16:28 |
| inetpro | Tools | Language | 16:28 |
| Kilos | yes to enable english and afrikaans | 16:28 |
| Kilos | they werent ticked | 16:28 |
| Kilos | what a rigmarole | 16:29 |
| inetpro | why rigmarole? | 16:29 |
| Kilos | it only works with one language at a time | 16:29 |
| inetpro | you one black magic? | 16:29 |
| inetpro | you want* | 16:30 |
| inetpro | Maaz: define black magic | 16:30 |
| Maaz | inetpro: black magic n 1: the belief in magical spells that harness occult forces or evil spirits to produce unnatural effects in the world [syn: {sorcery}, {black magic}, {black art}, {necromancy}], black magic n. [common] A technique that works, though nobody really understands why. More obscure than {voodoo programming}, which may be done by cookbook. Compare | 16:30 |
| Maaz | also {black art}, {deep magic}, and {magic number} (sense 2). | 16:30 |
| inetpro | if you use your language properly you use only one of them at a time | 16:31 |
| Kilos | nee man | 16:32 |
| Kilos | no way i gonna change it everytime i change language' | 16:32 |
| inetpro | you know how to type oom | 16:33 |
| Kilos | yes watch | 16:33 |
| Kilos | oom | 16:33 |
| Kilos | OOm | 16:33 |
| Kilos | OOM | 16:33 |
| Kilos | see | 16:33 |
| inetpro | doesn't mean if I need a spell checker that you also need one :-) | 16:34 |
| Kilos | hahahaha | 16:35 |
| Kilos | what are tabulations | 16:36 |
| Kilos | its an option under spell checker | 16:36 |
| Kilos | dont tell mre try | 16:36 |
| Kilos | i really need to go back to just za work | 16:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: in LibreOffice? | 16:38 |
| Kilos | huh | 16:39 |
| Kilos | no man | 16:39 |
| Kilos | in konversation | 16:39 |
| Kilos | i never use office stuff unless its to open something from email | 16:39 |
| inetpro | never seen it before Kilos | 16:42 |
| inetpro | switch if off and see what it does | 16:42 |
| inetpro | or ask your friend google | 16:42 |
| Kilos | no google is your friend and you nasty to me | 16:43 |
| inetpro | meanwhile, lions 34 - 15 cheatahs | 16:43 |
| Kilos | ty for that info | 16:44 |
| Kilos | i got caught today | 16:44 |
| Kilos | normall switch to sports early and stay they till rugger finish | 16:44 |
| inetpro | haha | 16:45 |
| * inetpro clearly bored today | 16:45 | |
| Kilos | yes | 16:45 |
| Kilos | i havent had you fix anything for a long time so you getting lazy | 16:46 |
| * inetpro wbb | 16:47 | |
| inetpro | and so the Lions win that games as predicted.... Lions 39 - 22 Cheatahs | 17:22 |
| inetpro | next up, will the Stormers please stand up and clobber the Brumbies | 17:22 |
| inetpro | wb MaNI | 17:23 |
| MaNI | thanks | 17:23 |
| inetpro | Kilos: are you sleeping already? | 17:32 |
| inetpro | MaNI: how's your solarsystem going? | 17:32 |
| MaNI | hehe, still going strong, but still not on the roof | 17:33 |
| MaNI | lol | 17:33 |
| MaNI | bit of a running joke now, wife getting quite angry about it taking up the garden, I should really get it sorted | 17:34 |
| inetpro | ai! | 17:35 |
| inetpro | remember EarthHour2016 will take place 20:30 until 21:30 on Saturday. Don't forget to switch off your 💡 for an hour & help protect the 🌍 | 17:35 |
| Kilos | im watching that yay | 17:37 |
| Kilos | just eaten | 17:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: is it on SABC? | 17:39 |
| Kilos | mnet | 17:39 |
| inetpro | sjoe | 17:40 |
| inetpro | Kilos: since when you upgraded your life like that? | 17:41 |
| Kilos | we have always had mnet | 17:42 |
| inetpro | ah | 17:42 |
| Kilos | since it first came out | 17:42 |
| Kilos | but even that is pricey for 2 more channels | 17:42 |
| inetpro | I remember my father in law having that, how much do you pay for these days? | 17:43 |
| Kilos | sis likes all the hospital shows so she pays | 17:43 |
| Kilos | i think 400 a month | 17:43 |
| inetpro | crazy stuff | 17:43 |
| inetpro | can't you get the dish and pay less? | 17:45 |
| Kilos | dstv is over 900 | 17:45 |
| Kilos | i have a dish but decoder packed up | 17:45 |
| Kilos | when i came here i had dstv | 17:45 |
| inetpro | DStv Access is R99pm | 17:47 |
| Kilos | na | 17:49 |
| Kilos | what is access | 17:49 |
| Kilos | must have mnet | 17:49 |
| Kilos | mnet show movies before any of the za channels | 17:50 |
| tumbleweed | if anyone would like to get involved in debconf16, we could use someone local, to help out with registration of attendees | 17:50 |
| Kilos | its in CT right tumbleweed | 17:51 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: yes | 17:51 |
| Kilos | you wanna pop in on our monthly meeting tuesdy night | 17:51 |
| tumbleweed | I can try | 17:51 |
| tumbleweed | what time? | 17:51 |
| Kilos | chesedo can you add to agenda please | 17:51 |
| Kilos | 8.30 za time | 17:52 |
| Kilos | like in 40 mins time | 17:52 |
| Kilos | there are many peeps in CT | 17:52 |
| Kilos | we can try rope some in for you | 17:52 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: got it in my calendar, thanks | 17:52 |
| Kilos | will be great to have you there tumbleweed | 17:53 |
| Kilos | been a long time | 17:53 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, we have one local involved in this, but she's really better used elsewhere (and I think she'll burn out if she does this) | 17:53 |
| tumbleweed | this is a great way for someone new to get involved :) | 17:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: would be nice to fly there and take part, not? | 17:53 |
| Kilos | yeah | 17:53 |
| Kilos | what about maia | 17:54 |
| tumbleweed | registration is open, btw. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/03/msg00008.html | 17:54 |
| Kilos | Maaz debconf is <reply> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/03/msg00008.html | 17:55 |
| Maaz | Kilos: One learns a new thing every day | 17:55 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: I've registered on the site but going all the way to CT? ... | 17:55 |
| inetpro | need to think long and hard about that one | 17:55 |
| tumbleweed | inetpro: :) | 17:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:55 |
| inetpro | can just imagine it being a highlight of the year | 17:56 |
| Kilos | tumbleweed have you spoken to maia | 17:57 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: no, I haven't. That's a good idea | 17:57 |
| Kilos | she has been very busy and scarce here but i think she will make time | 17:58 |
| Kilos | she always answers my mails | 17:58 |
| tumbleweed | this is a problem. The good people get busy | 17:58 |
| Kilos | oh and highvoltage is there too i think | 17:59 |
| Kilos | may be even drubin | 17:59 |
| Kilos | maia will know | 17:59 |
| tumbleweed | highvoltage is involved | 18:00 |
| Kilos | cool | 18:00 |
| Kilos | and fly of course | 18:00 |
| tumbleweed | he is, too | 18:00 |
| Kilos | there are lots of young guys down there | 18:01 |
| Kilos | inetpro please remember we try find some help | 18:01 |
| Kilos | and fly can push the lugs | 18:02 |
| Kilos | oh superfly | 18:02 |
| Kilos | you keeping up | 18:02 |
| inetpro | you are the man oom Kilos, talk to them africans as well | 18:03 |
| superfly | Kilos: no | 18:03 |
| Kilos | the africans | 18:03 |
| Kilos | oh in the africa channel | 18:03 |
| Kilos | ya lemme rock them | 18:03 |
| Kilos | tumbleweed did you ever go see our work http://ubuntu-africa.info | 18:05 |
| tumbleweed | I did see it, but not in a while :) | 18:06 |
| Kilos | i just watched the others work of course | 18:06 |
| Kilos | refresh a few times and watch background change | 18:07 |
| Kilos | i love that site | 18:07 |
| Kilos | im sure you can sense the fly's input | 18:07 |
| Kilos | oh my inetpro only certain peeps canedit the agenda page | 18:10 |
| Kilos | wiki lockdown because of spammers | 18:10 |
| Kilos | chesedo you here? | 18:11 |
| Kilos | weekend is over | 18:11 |
| kulelu88 | Hey tumbleweed, do you work with JS/AngularJS/Ionic ? | 18:15 |
| kulelu88 | I don't mind helping out at DebConf. Anything to assist the open-source community. And also, I hope to get trolling rights for poettering/systemd :P | 18:16 |
| Kilos | kulelu88 register | 18:19 |
| kulelu88 | typo here: "preceded by 9 days of DebCamp, from Thursday, 23 June to Friday, 1 June 2016." Should be 1 July 2016 | 18:21 |
| Kilos | tumbleweed checkout typo | 18:22 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: mailed her | 18:26 |
| Kilos | grewat | 18:26 |
| Kilos | great as well | 18:26 |
| tumbleweed | kulelu88: heh, was that in the e-mail? | 18:26 |
| kulelu88 | Yeah, 1 June 2016 | 18:26 |
| Kilos | on the link you gave | 18:27 |
| Kilos | first paragraph | 18:27 |
| Kilos | inetpro stormers pushing hard hey | 18:28 |
| tumbleweed | kulelu88: oh well :P | 18:28 |
| inetpro | Kilos: score? | 18:28 |
| kulelu88 | the sponsorship brochure should just quote the amounts in USD/EUR | 18:28 |
| Kilos | 9/8 to stormers | 18:29 |
| kulelu88 | Right now, 20,000 USD does not equal R200 000 :D | 18:29 |
| tumbleweed | kulelu88: also, no, I do very little JS :) | 18:29 |
| inetpro | Kilos, tumbleweed: I've updated the Agenda... up to chesedo to move around and decide where it fits in | 18:29 |
| tumbleweed | ack | 18:29 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro | 18:29 |
| Kilos | stormers try | 18:29 |
| Kilos | 14/8 | 18:30 |
| kulelu88 | tumbleweed: There's so much batteries included in JS/Ionic. I swear, it scares me sometimes | 18:30 |
| Kilos | 16/8 | 18:31 |
| Kilos | 16/11 | 18:36 |
| Kilos | sigh | 18:36 |
| kulelu88 | You watching the game or just following score? Kilos | 18:37 |
| Kilos | watching | 18:37 |
| Kilos | score is for the pro | 18:37 |
| Kilos | and other geeks that dont do sport | 18:38 |
| Kilos | red card to one brumby for elbow and punches to stromer face | 18:45 |
| Kilos | 19.11 | 18:45 |
| Kilos | wb bushtech | 18:46 |
| Kilos | inetpro 31/11 | 19:05 |
| inetpro | sjoe | 19:05 |
| Kilos | go stormy peeps | 19:05 |
| Kilos | game over | 19:05 |
| inetpro | mooi! | 19:06 |
| inetpro | dankie oom Kilos | 19:06 |
| Kilos | jy baie welkom oompie | 19:08 |
| kulelu88 | so the big game this season will be stormers sharks | 19:09 |
| Kilos | sharks beet them once | 19:10 |
| Kilos | beat | 19:10 |
| Kilos | only team to beat the stormers so far | 19:10 |
| Kilos | im so stupid you know | 19:13 |
| inetpro | so the last game for the weekend starts at 23:40? | 19:13 |
| Kilos | forgot one has to login to edit wiki pages | 19:13 |
| Kilos | eish | 19:13 |
| Kilos | ill be in dreamland because someone didnt let me nap this avy | 19:14 |
| * Kilos wonders who that was | 19:14 | |
| Kilos | and | 19:14 |
| inetpro | Jaguares against the Chiefs | 19:14 |
| Kilos | usings bugs as the distraction medium is so devious | 19:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no worries I'll fix the bugs | 19:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:15 |
| Kilos | those arent our teams so we allowed to miss that one | 19:16 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no man, will be very interesting to see how this pans out | 19:16 |
| Kilos | its still a long time to go inetpro | 19:16 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:17 |
| Kilos | months isnt it | 19:17 |
| inetpro | you're excused oom | 19:17 |
| inetpro | tomorrow in Sunday after all | 19:17 |
| magespawn | and a long weekend | 19:17 |
| inetpro | is* | 19:17 |
| Kilos | you gotta go to church early and pray for me man | 19:17 |
| Kilos | how can i ever win without help from above | 19:18 |
| kulelu88 | I still don't quite understand how it works. It is 15 rugby teams, 5 each from SA, NZ, OZ | 19:21 |
| Kilos | and the japs | 19:22 |
| kulelu88 | which japanese team? | 19:22 |
| Kilos | and jaguars are argentina i think | 19:22 |
| magespawn | yes they are | 19:22 |
| Kilos | they played the rebels today | 19:22 |
| Kilos | whe i forget their name | 19:23 |
| Kilos | sunwolves | 19:24 |
| Kilos | kulelu88 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Super_Rugby_season | 19:25 |
| Kilos | when one spends a lot of time in front of a pc it is healthy to build up a sweat watching your favourite rugby team | 19:26 |
| Kilos | like the bulls /sharks game was a nail biter | 19:27 |
| Kilos | kulelu88 arent you in jozi | 19:27 |
| kulelu88 | what happened to the Bulls though. they were so good a few years ago and now they're like, useless | 19:28 |
| Kilos | many new youngsters | 19:28 |
| squish102 | im not a networking person. if i have a rand 192.168.1.128 - 192.168.1.159 or there about.. how do I do it in the / notation | 19:28 |
| Kilos | sharks as well | 19:28 |
| magespawn | squish102: cdr notation is for the entire subnet | 19:29 |
| kulelu88 | most likely using ":" | 19:29 |
| magespawn | 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0 is 192.168.1.1/24 | 19:29 |
| magespawn | http://ctdbase.org/detail.go?type=taxon&acc=227855 the entire breakdown of your beetle inetpro | 19:31 |
| Kilos | wow | 19:31 |
| squish102 | so can i not subnet that range? | 19:31 |
| squish102 | if that makes sense? | 19:31 |
| squish102 | 192.168.1.128/16 < looks something like that? | 19:32 |
| * squish102 hates networks | 19:32 | |
| magespawn | i forget hold on a sec | 19:32 |
| pavlushka | night guys, see ya | 19:33 |
| squish102 | found a website to help. 192.168.1.128/27 would do it | 19:35 |
| squish102 | trying to add acl's to pfsense router for squidgard | 19:36 |
| magespawn | https://www.pinterest.com/pin/430093833139667780/visual-search/?x=0&y=0&w=502&h=370 | 19:36 |
| magespawn | a visual subnetting chart | 19:36 |
| squish102 | that is easier | 19:37 |
| inetpro | magespawn: thanks! Have posted a follow up of the bugs on G+ | 19:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:43 |
| Kilos | magespawn is the live bugsquad go to guy | 19:44 |
| inetpro | definitely | 19:46 |
| magespawn | cool beans inetpro | 19:47 |
| Kilos | nice job magespawn bit of a change from sorting sites and wireless probs hey | 19:48 |
| magespawn | nice change of pace | 19:49 |
| inetpro | change of pace? | 19:49 |
| Kilos | so you dont need a rest, a change is as good as a holiday | 19:50 |
| * inetpro just got reminded to install ipcalc on 16.04 | 19:52 | |
| inetpro | one of those tools you always need available in your toolbox | 19:53 |
| inetpro | $ sudo apt-get install ipcalc | 19:53 |
| inetpro | and then it's as easy as: | 19:54 |
| inetpro | ipcalc -n 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0 | 19:54 |
| magespawn | if you want to set multiple dns servers in /etc/network/interfaces how do you seperate them with a comma or on a seperate line numbered dns-server1 dns-server2 etc | 19:55 |
| magespawn | sorry dns-nameservers1 and so on | 19:56 |
| inetpro | magespawn: why do it there? | 19:56 |
| inetpro | on ubuntu server I simply edit /etc/resolv.conf | 19:57 |
| magespawn | where else? this is on a server | 19:57 |
| magespawn | okay | 19:57 |
| magespawn | and the difference is ? | 19:57 |
| squish102 | doesnt resolv.conf get overwritten? | 19:58 |
| inetpro | squish102: if you're on a desktop and use NetworkManager yes | 19:59 |
| magespawn | there is a warning not to edit this file by hand it get overwritten | 19:59 |
| inetpro | well maybe you're right as suggested by the following page: | 20:01 |
| inetpro | http://askubuntu.com/questions/351168/diffrence-between-the-dns-setting-in-etc-resolv-conf-and-etc-network-interfaces | 20:01 |
| Kilos | i remember seeing that | 20:01 |
| inetpro | but I will have to check on my next server installation | 20:01 |
| Kilos | squirm showed me how | 20:01 |
| Kilos | you run some script somewhere | 20:02 |
| inetpro | magespawn: and there's the answer to your question as well | 20:02 |
| Kilos | inetpro may i sleep now | 20:03 |
| Kilos | please | 20:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: why? | 20:03 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 20:03 |
| Kilos | why not? | 20:03 |
| magespawn | inetpro: so i see thanks | 20:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: 03/19 21:17 <inetpro> you're excused oom | 20:03 |
| * Kilos bows in gratitude | 20:04 | |
| * inetpro thought he was talking in his sleep | 20:04 | |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:04 |
| inetpro | good night oom :-) | 20:04 |
| inetpro | lekker slaap | 20:04 |
| Kilos | dankie, jy ook | 20:04 |
| inetpro | magespawn: unless things have changed in the latest versions I prefer to not have the resolvconf service running on a server | 20:05 |
| magespawn | okay, why? | 20:06 |
| inetpro | don't see why it should be necessary | 20:06 |
| magespawn | well i have set my server with a static ip address, so i can get to it | 20:07 |
| magespawn | so i suppose i do not need it to run | 20:08 |
| kulelu88 | all servers run with a static IP, unless it is a localized server running on your ISPs network, then it will be dynamic by default | 20:09 |
| magespawn | this is at home | 20:10 |
| inetpro | magespawn: in that case just read man resolv.conf | 20:11 |
| magespawn | will do | 20:11 |
| inetpro | also read http://askubuntu.com/questions/131881/why-did-i-have-to-remove-resolvconf-to-get-dnsmasq-to-work-again | 20:13 |
| inetpro | resolvconf can really be a pain | 20:14 |
| inetpro | but things keep changing, so it's best to read the latest and stay informed | 20:14 |
| magespawn | i'll try to stay on top of it | 20:20 |
| magespawn | bedtime for me, good night all | 20:24 |
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