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| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:05 |
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| claydoh | good evening | 09:06 |
| lordievader | Hey claydoh, how are you? | 09:06 |
| claydoh | not bad enjoying vacation lordievader im in Australia | 09:07 |
| lordievader | Ah, nice. Lots of sun? | 09:08 |
| claydoh | tho my pc back home went offline so no quassel core lol\ | 09:08 |
| claydoh | yeah so far perfect temps | 09:08 |
| lordievader | Nice, nice :) | 09:09 |
| soee | i have 'fixed' the problem with panel always covering application windows :/ | 09:50 |
| acheron88 | what was the cause? or have you just worked around/fudged a 'fix'? | 09:56 |
| soee | acheron88: no idea, i have to removed .local folder | 10:24 |
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| clivejo | yofel: commited xenial version to kubuntu_xenial_archive and uploaded the package ( kdeconnect-plasma - 0.9+git20160315-0ubuntu1 ) to misc staging | 12:15 |
| yofel | what's the git url? | 12:16 |
| clivejo | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/kdeconnect-plasma.git/log/?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive | 12:16 |
| yofel | ok, extras | 12:17 |
| yofel | (adopting upstream version number) ? | 12:17 |
| clivejo | Im not sure how upload works | 12:17 |
| clivejo | previous archive version is 0.0+git | 12:18 |
| clivejo | this version is 0.9 | 12:18 |
| yofel | is this another git snapshot? | 12:18 |
| clivejo | yes | 12:18 |
| yofel | why? | 12:18 |
| clivejo | I dont understand the upstream use of letters | 12:19 |
| yofel | do you have a repacked tarball that includes translations? | 12:20 |
| clivejo | http://download.kde.org/unstable/kdeconnect/0.9/src/ | 12:21 |
| clivejo | it goes 0.9, 0.9f and then 0.9g | 12:21 |
| yofel | right, so use the g one | 12:21 |
| clivejo | not the latest git? | 12:23 |
| yofel | does that include translations? | 12:23 |
| clivejo | I dont know | 12:23 |
| clivejo | apparently not | 12:25 |
| clivejo | no po folder that I can see | 12:25 |
| yofel | translations usually don't include those, so it's better to use the last released version and apply whatever important patches the current git head has | 12:25 |
| yofel | erm, "git repos don't..." | 12:26 |
| clivejo | oh | 12:26 |
| yofel | unless that would be too much work. But you really need a good argument to use a git snapshot considering that non-english-speaking users won't be able to understand the UI | 12:26 |
| clivejo | I didnt know that git ommits translations | 12:27 |
| * clivejo makes a note | 12:27 | |
| yofel | kde keeps all translations separate. There's some release script that merges those into the tarball | 12:28 |
| clivejo | is that not what sgclark is working on kde-l10n ? | 12:29 |
| soee | btw. where are we now with Apps, Frameworks and Plasma? | 12:30 |
| yofel | *that* only applies to "KDE SC", meaning kde4 and only for the offical source set. Not for anything kf5 based and not for anything from extragear | 12:30 |
| yofel | soee: same as on friday | 12:30 |
| soee | 15.12.3 are ready ? | 12:31 |
| yofel | looks like it | 12:32 |
| * soee tea time :) | 12:34 | |
| soee | i have to 'fix' long loading time problem (the loading screen after sddm) | 12:35 |
| soee | it started again after upgrade to 5.5.5 i think | 12:35 |
| soee | if remove .config folder this problem is gone so it is something with setting inside it | 12:35 |
| soee | *inside of it | 12:36 |
| clivejo | yofel: changed to 0.9g in archive, used git-buildpackage-ppa to build source and uploaded to misc-staging | 12:46 |
| clivejo | have to go for a bit | 12:47 |
| yofel | thanks | 12:47 |
| clivejo | I assume there might be new files to be installed? | 12:48 |
| yofel | clivejo: you did not push | 12:48 |
| yofel | the translations probably, I'll fix that | 12:48 |
| clivejo | dare | 12:48 |
| yofel | thanks | 12:49 |
| clivejo | let me, if it can wait | 12:49 |
| clivejo | need to get this stuff into my brain | 12:49 |
| yofel | sure | 12:49 |
| clivejo | do I need to get the FFE re-ack'ed? | 12:49 |
| yofel | it's also nice to close the launchpad bug with the upload, so please append "(LP: #1559538)" to the new upstream release line | 12:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1559538 in kdeconnect-plasma (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Update to latest upstream version" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1559538 | 12:50 |
| yofel | no | 12:50 |
| clivejo | will do | 12:50 |
| clivejo | Ill be back later | 12:50 |
| soee | ok i have tracked down file that makes loading screen waiting like 10-2- seconds | 13:01 |
| soee | *10-20 | 13:02 |
| soee | it is .config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc | 13:02 |
| yofel | that would mean a config problem in one of the applets | 13:02 |
| yofel | any idea what that could be? | 13:03 |
| yofel | maybe selectively removing sections from that file could narrow it down | 13:03 |
| soee | i will try to find out by testing each setting in that file :/ | 13:03 |
| yofel | clivejo: if you're looking for stuff to do, could you maybe look at bug 1536169? | 13:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1536169 in pkg-kde-tools (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu version missing the new tool pkgkde-mark-qt5-private-symbols" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1536169 | 13:05 |
| soee | yofel: ping | 13:18 |
| yofel | soee: hm? | 13:22 |
| soee | yofel: removing this from mentioned file helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15436389/ | 13:22 |
| soee | probably i will have to consult it with Plasma devs tomorrow | 13:23 |
| yofel | right, I *think* that's a kde plugin, but not sure right now | 13:24 |
| soee | and under his path: [Containments][114] there are 4 more elements configured so maybe one of them is the problem | 13:28 |
| soee | [Containments][114][Applets][112] for analog clock plugin | 13:29 |
| soee | [Containments][114][Applets][112][Configuration][ConfigDialog] | 13:29 |
| soee | [Containments][114][ConfigDialog] | 13:29 |
| soee | [Containments][114][General] | 13:29 |
| soee | [Containments][114][Wallpaper][org.kde.image][General] | 13:29 |
| soee | the last one contains path to not existing wallpaper image | 13:29 |
| soee | but i tried to remove it and it didn't help | 13:30 |
| soee | uhm one more test | 13:31 |
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| clivejo | yofel: using the 0.9g release tarball seems to lose quite a bit of functionality | 15:48 |
| clivejo | kdeconnect_notifications_config.so, kdeconnect_runcommand_config.so, kdeconnectfileitemaction.so plugins arent being built | 15:49 |
| clivejo | the whole idea of this FFE was to get the latest features into Xenial :/ | 15:50 |
| clivejo | is there any way to grab the translations and put them into the git tar? | 15:51 |
| yofel | probably, but I don't know how. I've never manually touched translations | 15:54 |
| yofel | What we could do is ship without and later try to SRU the next fully released version | 15:55 |
| clivejo | looks like the last version was missing translations | 15:56 |
| soee_ | ahoneybun: shouldn't his wiki be updated https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs#Weekly_Snapshot_.28pretty_stable.29 ? Weekly snapshots never existed i think, daily aren't updated for months | 15:57 |
| yofel | Can you put the git snapshot that you want uploaded somewhere? Or tell me the command to create it? | 15:59 |
| clivejo | I just dget the package from KCI unstable PPA | 16:00 |
| yofel | ok | 16:00 |
| clivejo | the reason I grabbed it is because I know that package is installable and actually works | 16:00 |
| clivejo | Im using it and so is soee_ | 16:00 |
| soee_ | +1 | 16:01 |
| clivejo | but I wasnt aware that it was missing translations as my default and only language is English | 16:01 |
| clivejo | sad I know | 16:01 |
| yofel | considering that the current package also doesn't have any it's not a regression, just meh | 16:03 |
| yofel | just something to be aware of | 16:03 |
| clivejo | but I want to do it properly, so I know how | 16:04 |
| yofel | so CI has 0.9+git20160320.1502+16.04-0 | 16:08 |
| yofel | does *that* tarball work or do you still have the old one? | 16:08 |
| yofel | ok, last commit was on the 7th, so it doesn't matter | 16:10 |
| yofel | clivejo: uploaded | 16:13 |
| clivejo | yeah I give it a poke yesterday | 16:13 |
| clivejo | but the i386 build it failing | 16:14 |
| clivejo | uploaded to archive? | 16:14 |
| yofel | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect-plasma/0.9+git20160315-0ubuntu1 | 16:23 |
| soee_ | yofel: btw. i created new bug for the issue i talked about https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360777 | 16:31 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 360777 in General "Due to faulty configuration desktop loading time is ~20 seconds longer" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 16:31 |
| yofel | thanks | 16:31 |
| soee_ | what is /proc dir for ? | 16:34 |
| soee_ | if i open Dolphin and move cursor around when listing / content than each time i hover this folder system lags | 16:34 |
| yofel | that contains information about running processes | 16:37 |
| yofel | not sure what dolphin tries to look up there... | 16:37 |
| clivejo | yofel: maybe I should open a bug for translations in kdeconnect-plasma | 17:01 |
| clivejo | does anyone here use kdeconnect in a non-english system? | 17:03 |
| soee_ | i'm using English but can install Polish | 17:03 |
| soee_ | well in fact i have PL installed just EN set as primary | 17:03 |
| clivejo | soee_: what does kdeconnect do then your system is in Polish? | 17:04 |
| soee_ | in English | 17:04 |
| soee_ | as it is easier to post screenshot, take movies in English to present devs etc :) | 17:05 |
| soee_ | but i have PL also installed just english is default one | 17:05 |
| soee_ | give me few minutes i switch to PL and relogin | 17:06 |
| soee | back | 17:08 |
| clivejo | soee: is there a Kubuntu Poland community? | 17:08 |
| soee | clivejo: dunno tbh. i doubt | 17:09 |
| soee | clivejo: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/20/Screenshot_20160320_180756.png | 17:09 |
| soee | some part is translated some strings are not | 17:09 |
| clivejo | thats oddd | 17:09 |
| clivejo | where is it getting the translation from, if we arent shipping it? | 17:10 |
| soee | maybe they were not translated upstream | 17:10 |
| clivejo | I wonder is it rolled into kde-l10n? | 17:11 |
| soee | clivejo: well i don not know how it works | 17:11 |
| soee | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/0.8-0ubuntu5 | 17:11 |
| soee | kdeconnect_0.8.orig.tar.xz contains po files | 17:11 |
| soee | with translations for various languages | 17:11 |
| clivejo | so does the tar here - http://download.kde.org/unstable/kdeconnect/0.9/src/ | 17:13 |
| soee | so the .dev files does not contain them also and used based on system, locale ? | 17:14 |
| soee | *deb | 17:14 |
| clivejo | KCI grabs the source code from KDE git | 17:14 |
| clivejo | and that doesnt have the translations apparently | 17:15 |
| soee | so KDE maybe provides l10n packages for each language that contain translations for all KDE related apps ? | 17:16 |
| clivejo | I believe so, but I cant get my head around it | 17:16 |
| clivejo | some packages seem to have translations being installed | 17:17 |
| soee | so if we upload new package than translation files will be automatically updated | 17:17 |
| clivejo | soee: thats why I wanted you to do that test | 17:17 |
| clivejo | it is obviously getting Polish transations from somewhere | 17:18 |
| clivejo | and yo have the git (no translations) package installed | 17:18 |
| soee | clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15438849/ | 17:18 |
| clivejo | interesting | 17:19 |
| soee | so i am on 15.12.1 and obiously it is a bit older than apps | 17:19 |
| soee | but this is just a guess | 17:19 |
| clivejo | no mention of kdeconnect here - http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/kde-l10n-pl/filelist | 17:26 |
| yofel | soee, clivejo: no, in this case the translations are merged into the release tarball as part of the release tarball | 17:39 |
| yofel | the translation packages are deprecated | 17:39 |
| clivejo | yofel: but how is soee seeing it partly translated? | 17:39 |
| yofel | dunno | 17:40 |
| clivejo | hes installed the git version | 17:40 |
| clivejo | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/20/Screenshot_20160320_180756.png | 17:40 |
| yofel | possibly re-used frameworks / plasma components that have their own translations? | 17:40 |
| soee | well if some strings aren't translated thn english one is used probably | 17:40 |
| yofel | well, dunno | 17:40 |
| soee | wait | 17:41 |
| soee | ergh, i have kdeconnect 0.8 and kdeconnect-plasma 0.9 | 17:41 |
| soee | cani just remove kdeconnect ? | 17:42 |
| clivejo | they seem to be linked | 17:48 |
| clivejo | Recommends: kdeconnect | 17:49 |
| soee | linked ? | 17:50 |
| clivejo | installing kdeconnect-plasma wants to also install kdeconnect | 17:51 |
| soee | and their versions do not match ? | 17:51 |
| clivejo | well I thought kdeconnect was old pre KF5 | 17:52 |
| clivejo | but debian package kdeconnect is build with KF5 - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/kdeconnect.git/tree/debian/control | 17:53 |
| clivejo | we seem to have branched off ? | 17:53 |
| clivejo | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/kdeconnect.git/tree/debian/changelog | 17:54 |
| clivejo | 0.9g | 17:54 |
| clivejo | Im soooo confused! | 17:54 |
| soee | :/ | 17:54 |
| clivejo | we really should follow Debian :/ | 18:13 |
| clivejo | if they jump off a cliff, we do too :P | 18:13 |
| telegram | <athoneycutt>: is that apt bug still there? | 18:24 |
| clivejo | its not really a bug :/ | 18:24 |
| telegram | <athoneycutt>: it breaks the system no? | 18:25 |
| clivejo | didnt break mine, just throws warnings | 18:25 |
| clivejo | maybe if you are using 3rd party repos | 18:25 |
| telegram | <athoneycutt>: I have that staging repo on tam | 18:26 |
| telegram | <athoneycutt>: *atm | 18:26 |
| clivejo | I think they are just warnings, I seem to be able to still install from them | 18:27 |
| telegram | <athoneycutt>: mm | 18:28 |
| clivejo | yofel: what are your thoughts? do we continue with kdeconnect-plasma, or go back with Debian? | 18:35 |
| yofel | ask me tomorrow | 18:42 |
| clivejo | bad day? | 18:43 |
| yofel | just tired | 18:45 |
| clivejo | :( | 18:47 |
| soee | :) | 19:15 |
| clivejo | yofel: regarding bug 1536169 : this is git diff between xenial_archive and master - https://paste.kde.org/pzga15byy | 20:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1536169 in pkg-kde-tools (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu version missing the new tool pkgkde-mark-qt5-private-symbols" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1536169 | 21:00 |
| clivejo | need to cherry pick that pkgkde-mark-qt5-private-symbols stuff for kubuntu? | 21:01 |
| * soee says again that Plasma hates him ... | 21:06 | |
| ahoneybun | soee, about that wiki page I don't have much knowledge about those CI builds | 21:08 |
| valorie | claus_chr: nice to see you | 21:08 |
| soee | ahoneybun: i think they were once created by Riddell and since he is working now on Neosn, nobody uses this 2 i mentioned | 21:09 |
| soee | Kubuntu uses only unstable but sgclark might have better knowledge about it | 21:09 |
| telegram | <athoneycutt>: I think your right about Riddell making it | 21:10 |
| valorie | would be good to ask sitter and Riddell too | 21:10 |
| soee | well they could stay as thei are but those informations on wiki might be misleading and pointing to outdated packages (in unstable daily for example) | 21:13 |
| clivejo | yofel: I attempted that cherrypick, but I removed some git stuff from the rules file as it looked to be KDE4 stuff | 21:50 |
| clivejo | starting to think I shouldnt have done that! | 21:50 |
| clivejo | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/249122854/pkg-kde-tools_0.15.20~ubuntu4_0.15.20~ubuntu5.diff.gz | 21:50 |
| clivejo | I uploaded it to my PPA - https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/xenial/+packages | 21:51 |
| * clivejo wanders off to find some headache tablets | 21:53 | |
| mitya57 | clivejo, why not do a proper merge of 0.15.21? :) | 21:56 |
| clivejo | not sure if that is allowed without a FFE | 21:57 |
| clivejo | this would be a bug fix, so should be allowed in | 21:58 |
| mitya57 | I would say it doesn't need an exception | 21:58 |
| clivejo | I have no idea | 21:59 |
| clivejo | I dont even know how to test that package I hacked | 21:59 |
| clivejo | way over my head | 21:59 |
| mitya57 | clivejo, also, you probably want to close bug 1536169 in the changelog | 22:00 |
| ubottu | bug 1536169 in pkg-kde-tools (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu version missing the new tool pkgkde-mark-qt5-private-symbols" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1536169 | 22:00 |
| mitya57 | Maybe instead of the other bug, that one doesn't seem related | 22:00 |
| clivejo | I dont even know if it fixes it! | 22:01 |
| clivejo | how do I test it? | 22:01 |
| mitya57 | If the tool is present, it's probably fixed :) | 22:02 |
| mitya57 | To really test it you would need to get a Qt 5.6 packaging | 22:02 |
| mitya57 | I.e. http://paste.ubuntu.com/15442127/ | 22:05 |
| clivejo | does it? | 22:06 |
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| yofel | clivejo: I'm not quite sure what you tried to do yet, but the bug was really just to not delete the 2 related files | 22:25 |
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| yofel | clivejo: hm, you didn't commit your changes? | 22:26 |
| clivejo | no | 22:32 |
| clivejo | I dunno what Im doing | 22:32 |
| clivejo | would a debian merge not be better with 0.15.21? | 22:33 |
| yofel | looking at the diff, everything other than removing the kde4 stuff looks good | 22:33 |
| yofel | yeah, looks to be just bugfixes from the log, so do that | 22:33 |
| clivejo | the git stuff in rules? | 22:33 |
| yofel | yes | 22:34 |
| clivejo | what is that doing? | 22:34 |
| clivejo | and why doesnt Debian do it? | 22:34 |
| yofel | no idea, some l10n magic. We have a lot of kubuntu-specific l10n handling in our tooling. So lets not remove potentially important stuff days before final beta | 22:35 |
| yofel | we DO still ship kde4 pieces | 22:36 |
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