[05:54] <pavlushka> why dont the first choice in grub "Ubuntu" has the echo lines??
[05:55] <pavlushka> dont >> not
[05:56] <pavlushka> or may be dont
[11:38] <dkessel> what a nice xerus in the slideshow =)
[11:43] <knome> :)
[11:46] <dkessel> is there a menu item for gnome software on a fresh xerus install?
[11:46] <dkessel> ("do i need to boot up a vm to find the correct translation of the app for the slideshow"?)
[11:47] <knome> should be...
[11:47] <dkessel> on my upgraded normal system it still isn't - that's why i am asking
[11:48] <dkessel> ok i'll fetch the iso and check
[12:04] <dkessel> also: meow? lol
[12:09] <flocculant> :)
[12:10] <flocculant> gs should certainly be there on a live session
[12:26] <dkessel> right. done with german :p
[12:26] <flocculant> don't doubt it - silly language :p
[12:27] <flocculant> what you going to use instead :D
[12:28] <dkessel> haha
[12:28] <dkessel> i'll wait for the guy who wanted to do the esperanto translation to finish
[12:30] <flocculant> good luck - afaik they're waiting for loco of some sort - like the cosimo guy and Catalan
[12:31] <bluesabre> morning all
[12:31] <flocculant> hi bluesabre :)
[12:31] <bluesabre> looks like I got a few bug reports yesterday
[12:31] <flocculant> yea sorry about that
[12:31] <bluesabre> flocculant must have promised folks some drinks in exchange for testing
[12:31] <flocculant> testers - who'd have thought it ;)
[12:32] <flocculant> hopefully those showing up late for the party will hang around for a few cycles :)
[12:32] <bluesabre> yes
[12:32] <flocculant> bluesabre: I've been thinking ... 
[12:32] <flocculant> which is rather dangerous ofc
[12:33] <flocculant> we should include 'regressions' as part of future testcases
[12:33] <bluesabre> yes, makes sense to me
[12:34] <flocculant> if we don't do what we did between 14.04 and 16.04 and tail off package testing
[12:34] <flocculant> not something we've done previously - but hey-ho
[12:34] <flocculant> for instance we'd likely have seen the black when paused in parole before a couple of days ago 
[12:35] <bluesabre> yep
[12:35] <bluesabre> that's probably related to not using clutter anymore
[12:35] <bluesabre> and I think I have a fix
[12:36] <bluesabre> just gotta dig through some really old commits
[12:36] <flocculant> ok - I did assume that was probably the case
[12:36] <flocculant> not that you might have a fix and was going to dig through old commits :p
[12:37] <flocculant> I did at least try the other xv to see if that was different - didn't expect so, and was right 
[12:37] <bluesabre> the fix being in http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/commit/?id=50a8a20a7bcdcc9656ecd9c51ea769938bba7378
[12:38] <bluesabre> I removed gtk_widget_set_double_buffered (GTK_WIDGET (clutter), FALSE);
[12:38] <bluesabre> since it was deprecated
[12:38] <bluesabre> but everything else is deprecated anyway, so might as well add it back to improve non-clutter support
[12:39] <bluesabre> er
[12:39] <bluesabre> this line
[12:39] <bluesabre> gtk_widget_set_double_buffered (GTK_WIDGET (gst), FALSE);
[12:39] <bluesabre> :D
[12:41] <bluesabre> I'll go ahead and add that back in, and perhaps the parole daily package will be fixed
[12:45] <flocculant> okey doke - I'll wait for it and see 
[12:49] <bluesabre> build now pending in lp, so you'll probably see a new package version in ~30 minutes in https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[12:50] <bluesabre> or the build will fail, which will be more fun ;)
[12:50] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[12:52] <flocculant> clutter keeps being a pain 
[12:52] <flocculant> seemingly :p
[12:56] <bluesabre> yupppp
[12:56] <bluesabre> it gives us a lot of improvements when it works
[12:56] <flocculant> right
[12:57] <flocculant> not the first time we've set it to xv though ;)
[12:58] <bluesabre> flocculant: so, translation deadline is April 7... do you think we should still try to do translated Create Document templates at this point, or when do you think the realistic cutoff time for that would be?
[12:58] <bluesabre> indeed
[12:59] <flocculant> bluesabre: I'm pretty laid back about that - not going to take much to check that - so I would say others are the ones to ask - slickymaster etc
[12:59] <flocculant> it'd be nice - it'd be nice to get more than just txt in there if we can
[12:59] <flocculant> we sort of stopped thinking about that it seems :)
[13:00] <bluesabre> most things come back to needing somebody to develop them :)
[13:00] <bluesabre> I'll see if I can get something realistic together for that this week
[13:00] <flocculant> yea ofc 
[13:00] <flocculant> I'm not complaining :)
[13:01] <flocculant> and not *important* in the scheme of things at all
[13:01] <bluesabre> putting together my "get crap done before release" calendar
[13:01] <flocculant> :D
[13:01] <flocculant> I know I can do both the templates and having Templates called something other than that locally
[13:03] <bluesabre> basically, I need to look at ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs to figure out where to drop the templates
[13:03] <bluesabre> what templates are we interested in? ODT, ODS... something else?
[13:04] <flocculant> I think those 2 plus existing 
[13:15] <flocculant> bluesabre: yup - confirm that works :)
[13:16] <bluesabre> flocculant: parole?
[13:16] <flocculant> yea - sorry :)
[13:16] <bluesabre> great, thanks!
[13:17] <flocculant> commented on bug 1557349
[13:17] <bluesabre> the window should also resize nicely with playing video
[13:17] <bluesabre> I'll package that up tonight
[13:18] <bluesabre> have you had a chance to look at xfce4-power-manager and xfce4-panel with their ppa patches?
[13:18] <flocculant> bluesabre: yep - resizes fine - pauses properly in windowed and fullsized
[13:18] <bluesabre> I'm going to be out most of today, but going to try to do a bunch of packaging tonight
[13:18] <flocculant> okey doke
[13:19] <flocculant> I'll see what gives tomorrow morning then :)
[13:19] <bluesabre> :)
[13:21] <bluesabre> thanks
[13:21] <flocculant> yw
[13:21] <flocculant> thank you :)
[13:34] <knome> bluesabre, maybe we should try to coordinate the docs stuff today then as well..
[14:23] <bluesabre> knome: ready to upload once I have a branch that's ready to go
[14:24] <bluesabre> :)
[14:44] <bluesabre> knome: (unless you're talking about the split source package, in which case I'll still be out all day today)