/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/03/21/#kubuntu-devel.txt

* soee 5% fingers crossed...07:39
soeehow can i fix this after 15.10 -> 16.04 upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15446225/ ?08:57
totof-at-workhi soee09:03
totof-at-workif i remeber correctly you need to unistal libkipi-data for install libkf5kipi-data09:04
totof-at-workbut before you need to uninstall ksnapshot too and replace it by kde-spectacle wihch is his replacement :)09:04
soeeok ill try to fix this09:08
soeetotof-at-work: yes removing libkipi-data fixed the probem, thank you10:00
soeeyofel: ^ are we aware of tis issue ?10:00
totof-at-worksoee: u're welcome ... test on my 16.04 vbox10:02
totof-at-work:)10:02
BluesKajHiyas all12:24
yofelsoee: yes we are14:14
soeeyofel: ok :) my upgrade today 15.10->16.04 failed a bit. I had to run apt-get -f install than apt full-upgrade than fix gwenview :)14:19
yofelsoee: I uploaded something that should fix things14:24
yofelclivejo: I took care of kipi - I think...14:25
clivejogood, my solution is a sledge hammer14:25
yofelshould ironically also "solve" the non-functional printscrn button - by simply not removing ksnapshot14:26
clivejowhen will the button start using spectacle?14:28
clivejoIve been openning spectacle manually to take screenshots, seems to work fine14:29
yofelAs understand it by now:14:29
yofel1) Fresh installs14:29
yofel2) People manually switching the functionality to be covered by spectacle14:29
yofel3) Someone finding out why the auto-switch doesn't work (or if it even exists)14:29
yofel/usr/bin/germinate-update-metapackage: Installed debootstrap is older than in the previous version! (1.0.72ubuntu1 < 1.0.78+nmu1)14:30
yofelseriously..14:30
clivejoVeco 200 1180 SPA14:30
clivejooups14:30
soee:)14:32
yofelsgclark: kubuntu-meta refreshed again and uploaded14:50
sgclarkyofel: thanks14:52
sgclarksorry very distracted by kde CI explosions. hopefully all is going well here14:52
yofeljust do your thing, we'll manage14:53
yofelFYI: kubuntu-desktop should be installable in xenial again. Shout if that's not the case for someone17:11
genii"gain" ?17:15
geniiHm, already installed here17:16
yofelit was fixed in the ppa for a couple days already actually..17:25
mamarleyyofel: It looks like plasma-workspace 4:5.5.5.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa3 has just started appearing in the "local or obsolete" list in Synaptic.  Was it deleted or something?19:14
yofelo.O19:15
yofellooking19:15
yofelmamarley: hm, the staging ppa has ~ppa2, not sure where you got ~ppa3 from... 19:19
mamarleyyofel: Oops, my bad.  That was something I had upload to my own PPA previously to test a patch I had backported.  Sorry to bother you.19:19
yofelnp19:20
* mamarley slaps himself around a bit with a large trout.19:20
yofeldo you thing you'll be done with 364.12 tomorrow? ^^19:20
mamarleyyofel: https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages :)19:20
yofel<319:21
mamarleyDon't thank me, thank tseliot.19:21
mamarleyI just uploaded it.19:21
yofelah right19:21
vlad376JOIN20:17
* clivejo yawns20:27
clivejoanyone here?20:28
* mamarley has been using Applications 15.12.3 from the staging PPA on multiple systems for a while now and has had no problems. :)20:28
* mamarley isn't here.20:29
clivejooh no, voices in my head again20:29
* yofel whispers ghostly words about the image live session having a folderview widget that's too small to show any contents20:29
clivejoits weird, when I read your messages I can hear your accent!20:30
yofelIKR :D20:31
clivejohow does that work?!?20:31
* clivejo wonders what yofel is up to20:32
clivejosome uber complicated packaging Im guessing20:32
yofelmore like wondering what to do about the remaining autopkgtests and what keeps breeze in proposed20:35
clivejocould I try to stage fw 5.20?20:36
yofelI wonder if we should patch out the wayland tests in kwin until we know how to run those20:36
yofelno20:36
yofelI mean, you can, but don't put it in git, as I don't plan to ever release that20:36
clivejoI understand that bit20:37
clivejocould they be pushed to unstable?20:37
yofelah right, the version gets pulled from the changelog... we need a plan for that in xenial+1...20:39
clivejoyofel: you dont plan to release 5.20 to xenial_backports?20:39
clivejolike after release date20:40
yofelpossibly. But if you put it into _archive now I have even more changelogs that I need to work around if I fix something in the archive20:40
clivejoI know it cant go into xenial_archive, thats in freeze now20:40
clivejobut was thinking if I could push to kubuntu_unstable branch somehow20:41
clivejomaybe learn how the script works20:41
yofelyou will get merge conflicts every time someone fixes something in _archive, but yes, that would work20:42
yofelit would fix the package versions in CI at least20:42
clivejoeakk, merge conflicts20:42
sgclarknoooooooo20:42
clivejowell that was my plan20:42
clivejoyet to get CI fixed up20:43
clivejotry20:43
clivejoall this red makes me sad20:43
sgclarkred? 20:43
sgclarkwhat happened? how will staging frameworks help?20:43
yofelLets talk about the CI in May after all of us went on vacation20:44
sgclarklol20:44
clivejolot of changes in new frameworks20:44
sgclarkthat can still be fixed in unstable branch. how is staging frameworks we can't use in archive going to fix things?20:45
clivejothey cant go in the archive20:46
clivejobut they might be able to go into backports20:46
sgclarkexactly, freeze20:46
clivejoIm not saying for them to go in the archive, just stage them20:46
sgclarkyeah but that will cause a merge tastic pile of mess. while archive stuff is still being worked on20:46
sgclarkwell it is all yours to fix then :) I am distracted by kde ci atm :(20:47
clivejowill it create merge conflicts with two different versions?20:48
clivejoit unstable is say 5.20 and archive is 5.18?20:49
clivejoif20:49
yofelin debian/changelog, yes20:49
clivejo:(20:49
* clivejo sees why you say "NO"20:50
sgclarkyeah and then getting changes back inot xenial archive branch will be a disaster20:50
clivejoI might stage them and upload to my PPA 20:51
* yofel adds gcc and make to desktop recommends20:51
yofelsomeone scream if they want to object20:51
yofel...20:51
clivejoyofel: how come?20:52
clivejoarent they dev tools?20:52
yofellet me c&p the xubuntu comment20:52
yofel+Here we provide a minimal development environment sufficient to build kernel20:52
yofel+drivers, so that this is possible on the live CD and in scenarios where20:52
yofel+it is problematic to get these packages onto the installed system in order20:52
yofel+to compile a driver. -mdz20:52
sgclarkyofel please do. we can close that bug for gcc with virtualbox... tired of arguing haha20:52
yofelright, and they *do* have a point20:52
sgclarkyea20:52
sgclarkI say do it20:53
clivejodoes desktop not have limits?20:53
yofelwe're already like 200m over the limit - do we care?20:54
yofelit's a soft limit anyway20:54
clivejoLOL then no :P20:54
clivejoI thought that was a hard limit20:54
sgclarkI don't think 2 more will kill us hhaha20:54
yofelfrom yesterday:20:54
yofelkubuntu/daily-live: xenial-desktop-amd64.iso oversized by 308822016 bytes (1592279040)20:54
yofelkubuntu/daily-live: xenial-desktop-i386.iso oversized by 329629696 bytes (1613086720)20:54
clivejogcc not pretty big?20:54
yofelso make that 30020:55
yofelnot sure, will be ~40m at least20:55
clivejowhy does desktop "recommend" it?20:55
yofelso that you can remove it?20:55
clivejois it needed for normal desktop operation?20:56
yofelno, but recommends is the lowest "default" priority, so you need that to have it on the image20:56
clivejois there come components need compiled on the fly or something?20:56
sgclarkno. just convenient to install virtualbox drivers ( and other drivers) after install20:57
yofelthat ^ mosty20:57
yofelif you use the internal vbox installer then it'll build its own drivers, not the dkms ones20:57
clivejoI see20:57
yofelwe probably have a bunch of stuff on the image that we don't need though, if someone wants to read through the manifest20:58
sgclarkthere was stuff on there that made me go hmmm. BUt I did not wnat to mess stuff up. Maybe one meeting we can go through that together.20:59
yofelsgclark: do I see correctly that build.kde.org has no useful kopete builds?21:23
yofelthe matrix setup is giving me a headache..21:23
sgclarkyofel: some explosions occurred last night.21:31
sgclarkhense why I am distracted.21:31
yofelthat included a history wipe? or just failures?21:32
sgclarkyes21:32
yofelok21:32
sgclarkyofel: https://build-sandbox.kde.org/job/kopete master latest-qt4/21:33
sgclarkmy sandbox did not explode21:34
yofelsgclark: thanks!21:35
yofelso the test is broken upstream, that's what I wanted to know21:35
soeehiho21:54
clivejohi soee21:58
soeenews of the day http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-364.12-Linux21:58
soeeToday's NVIDIA 364.12 Linux driver does deliver on Wayland and Mir support! 21:59
yofel[    10.253] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  364.12  Wed Mar 16 20:39:46 PDT 201621:59
yofel;P21:59
soeewoot ?22:00
yofelnot that I can test the modesetting stuff on optimus though. Will try that on my other pc tomorrow22:00
mamarleySadly, it doesn't do a high-res framebuffer yet. :/22:08
yofelbummer22:09
* yofel dreams of a time where you can run modesetting with glamor on nvidia22:09
soeewell im waiting for tearing fixes  :(22:09
mamarleysoee: Just put "export __GL_YIELD="USLEEP"" in your ~/.profile and run kwin with compositing turned on and set to "Automatic" tearing prevention.22:11
soeemamarley: im not sure if it will fix extra huge problems on second (TV) screen22:14
mamarleyI have no idea there.  I have a couple of systems with dual monitors, but the monitors are identical.22:15
yofelsgclark: are there any 32bit kde ci builds?23:51
sgclarkyofel: no23:52
yofelhm ok23:52
sgclarkno resources23:52
yofelI'm looking at the baloo test failure, and so far the only parallel I can see is that it fails on the 2 32bit archs that get tested (i386, armhf)23:53

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