[04:57] <iqbal> hi
[05:50] <pavlushka-> Hello every1!!
[06:07] <chesedo> hello pavlushka- and others
[06:07] <chesedo> inetpro: it seems to fit where you put it...
[06:07] <pavlushka-> Hi chesedo!!!
[06:07] <pavlushka-> How are you?
[06:08] <chesedo> great ty, and self?
[06:09] <pavlushka-> I am good.
[06:10] <pavlushka-> See ya,  tc
[09:25] <Kilos> morning all
[09:28] <chesedo> hello Kilos, how are you?
[09:32] <Kilos> ok ty chesedo and you?
[09:32] <chesedo> great ty
[11:25] <magespawn> good morning
[11:30] <chesedo> morning magespawn
[11:41] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[11:56] <Kilos> chesedo you doing the G+ post or is inetpro doing that and the tweet place?
[11:57] <Kilos> i have sent out an alert to the list
[11:57] <chesedo> Kilos: i can create a post - have no power over tweet
[11:57] <Kilos> forgot to add the debconf link in the mail though
[11:58]  * chesedo will check in a bit
[11:58] <Kilos> hopefully pro will do it
[11:58] <Kilos> im bit weaker today it seems
[11:58] <chesedo> np Kilos, take it easy if need be
[11:58] <Kilos> i go nap for a while
[11:59] <Kilos> ty
[12:06] <inetpro> done
[12:07] <inetpro> anything else?
[12:07] <Kilos> i dont think so, ty inetpro 
[12:07] <inetpro> lol
[12:07] <inetpro> Kilos: gaan slaap nou man
[12:07] <chesedo> wow quick, ty inetpro
[12:07] <Kilos> ok lol
[12:08] <inetpro> goeie more almal
[12:08] <chesedo> oh ja. more inetpro
[12:09] <Kilos> more boetie
[12:10]  * chesedo wonders if is his brain connected to the internet that he can sleep and chat at same time :P
[12:10] <inetpro> must be chesedo
[12:10] <Kilos> zzzzzzzz
[12:53] <chesedo> inetpro: did you also create a g+ event or can i create one?
[13:03] <inetpro> chesedo: no, I thought you would do that
[13:23] <chesedo> inetpro: ok :)... and also done
[13:29] <inetpro> thanks chesedo
[13:32] <chesedo> np
[14:07] <Kilos> yawns
[14:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:18] <Kilos> https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntubsd/
[14:18] <Kilos> inetpro ^^
[14:18] <inetpro> i've seen that Kilos
[14:19] <Kilos> is that kernel better then?
[14:19] <inetpro> different
[14:20] <Kilos> ok
[15:12] <pavlushka> Kilos, o/
[15:14] <Kilos> o/
[15:33] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[15:33]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[15:34] <Kilos> ohi superfly QA is dead
[15:34]  * Kilos cries
[15:37] <superfly> Kilos: oh right, hold on. I had to restart the server last night
[15:37] <Kilos> not serious superfly  im teasing
[15:37] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:38] <Kilos> Maaz ty
[15:38] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:31] <magespawn> hi guys i am looking for a vps host, preferably here in sa, any reccommendations?
[17:31] <pavlushka> hi magespawn !
[17:34] <magespawn> hi pavlushka 
[17:34] <pavlushka> looks like you are busy, magespawn 
[17:36] <pavlushka> waht you are up to?
[17:36] <magespawn> yup still trying to sort out a issue with the company website, on the joomla side, but it looks like it maybe related to the server setup
[17:38] <pavlushka> good luck on that.
[17:39] <magespawn> yup beginning to feel like i will need it
[17:40] <magespawn> i often wonder if the hassel of using a cms is justified for small sites
[17:42] <pavlushka> you can use wordpress I guess.
[17:44] <pavlushka> or drupal
[17:45] <inetpro> joomla? yuck
[17:45] <pavlushka> hello, inetpro !!
[17:45] <inetpro> hi pavlushka
[17:46] <pavlushka> you are talking about joomla like a rotten egg.
[17:46] <Kilos> lol
[17:47] <Kilos> magespawn you dont have a choice right?
[17:47] <pavlushka> I guess they specified joomla.
[17:47] <chesedo> magespawn: what seems to be the issue?
[17:48] <pavlushka> Hi chesedo!
[17:48] <chesedo> hi pavlushka and all others that i may forgot
[17:49] <pavlushka> chesedo, really?
[17:49]  * chesedo cannot even remember if he greeted this morning
[17:50]  * pavlushka thinking about chesedo, not even sure if he brushed his teeth.
[17:50]  * pavlushka this morning
[17:52] <pavlushka> chesedo, you did?
[17:52] <chesedo> oh hell, now that you mention it :P
[17:53] <pavlushka> :{
[17:54] <pavlushka> So magespawn, say something, like a feedback.
[17:55] <Kilos> pavlushka hell answer when he has time
[17:56] <pavlushka> Kilos, my bad
[17:56] <Kilos> haha patience
[17:57] <pavlushka> you reminded me your suggestion just saying the first line.
[17:57] <pavlushka> yes
[17:57] <chesedo> well night all
[17:57] <pavlushka> night chesedo!
[17:57] <Kilos> night chesedo sleep well
[17:57] <Kilos> see you tomorrow
[17:58] <pavlushka> and brush your teeth before going bed, chesedo 
[17:59] <Kilos> lol
[17:59] <Kilos> im lucky, i dont have teeth to worry about anymore
[18:00] <Cryterion> why fart and waste it, when you can burp and taste it!
[18:01] <Kilos> Maaz announce Dont forget our monthly meeting here tomorrow night everyone
[18:01] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Dont forget our monthly meeting here tomorrow night everyone
[18:01] <Kilos> tumbleweed ^^
[18:02]  * Cryterion notes the meeting
[18:02] <tumbleweed> ack
[18:02] <Kilos> what ack?
[18:02] <pavlushka> Cryterion, I am rolling on the ground metaphorically , laughing
[18:02] <Cryterion> lol
[18:02] <tumbleweed> Kilos: meaning, I got the message
[18:02] <Cryterion> I just had to add it
[18:02] <Kilos> cool
[18:02] <Kilos> oh
[18:03] <Kilos> acknowledged
[18:04] <pavlushka> me too, oh, acknowledged!
[18:04] <pavlushka> Kilos, not mimicking you
[18:04] <Kilos> i know lad
[18:04] <pavlushka> my reaction is the same.
[18:05] <Kilos> i forget peeps cut everything they can short so they can be faster
[18:06] <pavlushka> yeah right.
[18:07] <pavlushka> night guys, have a successful meeting, bye
[18:07] <Kilos> you too ty pavlushka 
[18:27] <Cryterion> anyone here know much about android os and a tablet that's locked in upgrade mode?
[18:28] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:29] <Cryterion> yeah Kilos, took it in and they recon cheaper to get a new one
[18:29] <Kilos> pull the battery
[18:30] <Cryterion> my thing is, I can't get adb to connect to it
[18:30] <Kilos> is there some why you can get in from a pc
[18:30] <Cryterion> factory + full cache wipe done
[18:30] <Kilos> do they have a factory reset
[18:30] <Cryterion> not at this point, pc won't detect, but can get it into debug mode
[18:31] <Kilos> in a tiny hole in one if the sides with a pin thing
[18:31] <Cryterion> factory reset didn't work
[18:31] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:31] <Kilos> try it a couple of times
[18:32] <Kilos> have to hold it in maybe
[18:32] <Cryterion> I can get into boot menu, and get into adb debug mode, but can't connect to pc
[18:32] <MaNI> you have to hold down 3 buttons when you power it on
[18:32] <Kilos> or am i mixed up with routers
[18:32] <MaNI> tog et it to boot in safe mode
[18:32] <Cryterion> I'll look for hole
[18:32] <MaNI> you should be able to google for that
[18:34] <MaNI> http://www.androidtipsz.com/how-to-boot-any-rooted-and-non-rooted-android-device-into-recovery-mode
[18:34] <Cryterion> You don't like google, rather duck it ;)
[18:34] <magespawn> Cryterion: i have the same problem, my sons is stuck in upgrade mode too
[18:34] <Kilos> ha
[18:35] <Kilos> what makes
[18:35] <magespawn> i have done pretty much everything in the recovery menu
[18:35] <Cryterion> ok, my son's tablet as well
[18:35] <magespawn> mine is a vodcom tablet
[18:35] <Kilos> tiny hole near where charger plugs in
[18:35] <Kilos> use a paperclip
[18:35] <Kilos> ifyou find it
[18:35] <Cryterion> same, vodacom, "click" tablet
[18:36] <Kilos> sharp pin no good
[18:36] <Cryterion> gotta charge it a bit, grrr
[18:36] <Cryterion> seen it, I pushed a diode lead in, just fits
[18:37] <Kilos> hi bushtech 
[18:38] <Kilos> hmm.. how many peeps have diodes lying around
[18:38] <Kilos> i have lots but always hunt for paper clip
[18:38] <Cryterion> I do, lol, work with all the time :) - but yeah, guess not everyone does
[18:39] <magespawn> also have to charge mine
[18:39] <magespawn> found the hole
[18:39] <Cryterion> small slot thing
[18:39] <Kilos> did it restart?
[18:39] <Cryterion> at least there's 2 off us now, we'll work it out
[18:40] <Kilos> lol
[18:40] <Cryterion> kilos they need to be charged first
[18:40] <Kilos> ok good luck guys
[18:40] <Kilos> hi Na3iL 
[18:41] <Cryterion> prob best to get them charged, then myself and magespawn can run through different things tomorrow night once they fully charged
[18:41] <Na3iL> o/ Kilos 
[18:46] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:46] <Kilos> morning inetpro see you tomorrow
[18:46] <Cryterion> night kilos
[19:01] <magespawn> Cryterion: i think i am going to take mine in, it is still on contract
[19:04] <inetpro> tumbleweed: why did they stop calling interfaces eth0, eth1, etc and now using funny names like enp3s0f1?
[19:05] <inetpro> oh and when did this happen even?
[19:05] <Cryterion> ok, I can't, as my ex bought it and she doesn't have the receipt anymore, even though it's on a 2 year warranty magespawn
[19:07] <Cryterion> heya Sxuza
[19:08] <Cryterion> oh gone again
[19:16] <magespawn> Cryterion: i have taken several in, mostly for the company, they have never asked me for a slip
[19:17] <magespawn> they can call the details of the device up based on the imei number
[19:17] <Cryterion> hmm, what make is your's, as mine is a Click bought via Game
[19:17] <Cryterion> where do you take them?
[19:18] <magespawn> mine is a vodacom branded tablet, the ones they lauched with the data contracts
[19:18] <magespawn> i take mine into the vodacom shop
[19:19] <Cryterion> ok, closest vodacom shop that I know that could work is Gateway, will have try, but can only do it over the weekend as is 100km away
[19:20] <tumbleweed> inetpro: systemd!
[19:21] <Cryterion> magespawn, have you taken any in, under the current locked condition?
[19:21] <inetpro> anyone have an idea why they did it?
[19:21] <tumbleweed> inetpro: basically, because the system may not find the interfaces in the same order, every time
[19:21] <tumbleweed> previously, we dealt with this, by using a config file that got generated once, on first boot
[19:21] <tumbleweed> but then if you ever swap an interface out, you get gaps, and it's basically, all rubbish :P
[19:22] <tumbleweed> also, VMs that get new mac addresses on every boot get messy
[19:22] <tumbleweed> so, this naming scheme is based on the connection
[19:22] <tumbleweed> i.e. the bus ID of the adaptor
[19:22] <tumbleweed> the BIOS can also provide a preferred name for each port, but very few do
[19:23] <inetpro> so how does the naming convention work?
[19:23] <tumbleweed> inetpro: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[19:24] <inetpro> ahh, that looks more like something I was was trying to find
[19:24] <inetpro> thanks tumbleweed
[19:25] <magespawn> Cryterion: no, the ones i have taken in had different problems, ones hotspot stopped working, another would not switch at all (replaced with a new unit) and another would not charge
[19:26] <magespawn> the first and third they returned in working order
[19:27] <magespawn> thanks for the info tumbleweed 
[19:33] <Cryterion> yeah, charger circuits often go on phone's, had an n70 sent in 2 days before warranty, and gave up on in, could've faught, but gave up, too much time.
[19:34] <Cryterion> icrap charger circuit also went, a kid fixed it, and it took me weeks to unlock the frigging thing, grrr
[19:35] <Cryterion> anyway, I'll try that route over the weekend, will be up that end of the coast anyway
[19:37] <magespawn> Cryterion: somestimes the fight is not worth it
[19:37] <magespawn> sometimes too
[19:45] <Cryterion> yip, I'll just check, but then look at other options
[19:46] <Cryterion> It's just a tablet, +- 1grand for a new one
[20:04] <magespawn> bedtime for me, good night all