=== Drac0 is now known as Guest84790 [05:39] Hi === d is now known as Guest66416 [07:45] Trevinho, hi, I assume the new bamf is not suppose to signal an "empty" BamfApplication (no desktop-file, no name) for a startup-notification [08:21] moin [08:56] morning all [08:56] The kettle is broken. [08:56] This is the worst day of my life ever [09:02] wait [09:02] it's ok [09:02] hi [09:02] it's just the light that tells you it's on that's broken [09:03] morning Laney [09:12] didrocks, do you know who I can speak to about: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunity/+bug/1538471 [09:12] Launchpad bug 1538471 in libunity (Ubuntu) "scope-runner-dbus.py assert failure: *** Error in `/usr/bin/python3': free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x0000000001ca17b0 ***" [Medium,Confirmed] [09:24] hey willcooke! Hum, I think the api team first? I know pstolowski worked on this at the time [09:25] thanks didrocks [09:25] yw ;) [09:27] Laney, don't know if you saw my ramblings last night. I tracked down a themeing problem with Terminal to some hard-coded padding and margins. I was wondering if we could remove that actions box (which I did by simply commenting it out) or if I should change the hard coded values to match our theme requirements? IMO just getting rid of the "actions" box altogether is the best option. [09:27] "All" it does is allow you to create a new tab and choose which tab you want active. [09:27] Things that I assume most people do with keyboard shortcuts [09:28] Sounds dangerous to assume that [09:28] "Ubuntu patched out the button I use all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [09:30] Well, it didnt exist in 14.04 [09:30] I think it was added in 3.18 [09:30] what's the problem? [09:30] If I "fix" it to work with out theme, then it will be broken for everyone else [09:31] I'll grab some screenshots after my meeting, but basically the tab that contains the action buttons is misaligned. It overlaps with the previous tab and is offset by a couple of pixels up and right. [09:31] It looks a bit messy is all [09:31] willcooke, hey! i worked on libunity project, that's right, but not on this particular aspect (python bindings); jamesh did most of the python bindings stuff. we haven't touched this code for ~3 years, maybe it's related to python 3 or python-gi change [09:33] thanks pstolowski - I'll drop him a line see if he's got any ideas. === Drac0 is now known as Guest57226 [09:34] yw [09:40] cyphermox: it's all your damned fault :P on the mokutils password type "moo1234" or just the letter "a" there is an error in the password confirmation that says they don't match I think you'll find they damn well do, So I assume it only shows that error regardless and the issue is actually that it is too short [09:46] * pitti spots the news in Brussels, argh! [09:48] willcooke: If you really want to fix this (is it high priority?) then you can probably make those paddings configurable if you use GtkStyleContext manually [09:49] I don't think GtkContainer exposes the border-width property in CSS [09:49] at least not that I can tell [09:49] pitti: indeed :( [09:51] Laney, Well I don't think we should ship it looking a bit off, and I dont have the skillz to fix it properly. The most I can probably do it change the hard coded padding to work for us, or we get rid of it. For my money, we just turn it off. But yeah, users. ;) [10:07] Laney, without actions button: http://imgur.com/aSBnKBJ [10:08] with actions button (unfettled - I will change the padding etc in a mo and see what it looks like): http://imgur.com/CUHBcAx [10:09] haha willcooke only 91.9 MB of updates [10:16] willcooke, Laney andyrock [10:16] I manually dist-upraded from lts 14 to lts 16 [10:17] and the upgrade stopped [10:17] at the moment that the package ubuntu-desktop [10:17] was about to get installed [10:18] ricotz: what you mean by empty signal? [10:18] I got this message: /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: /sbin/runlevel: not found stop/waiting [10:19] I wonder if some pre/post installation script crashes the desktop [10:19] and we get the panic [10:19] sorry the message is: [10:20] /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: /sbin/runlevel: not found cron stop/waiting [10:22] willcooke, jibel: so good news at last the qt issue doesn't affect a default install so I assume it is because I have the sdk installed cause who would want to use the desktop to develop stuff :) [10:22] and libperl didn't upgrade either I see some bugs there too [10:22] because UUID.pm is missing [10:22] any ideas? [10:23] cyphermox: ^ [10:23] willcooke: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15471088 https://paste.ubuntu.com/15471091 [10:24] Laney, zomg - thank you!! [10:24] * willcooke patches [10:24] not sure it'll work from the inspector [10:24] Let's see... [10:24] Trevinho, afaics while starting an application using a GDesktopAppInfo results in a signaled BamfApplication of BamfMatcher which has no concrete information [10:25] but you can always edit the css [10:25] It seems that there are missing dependencies [10:25] sorry :p I accidentally pasted that :p [10:25] Trevinho, this is running plank which is using libbamf [10:26] willcooke: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/desktop-screenshots/for-will.png [10:27] ricotz: what info is missing? If there's no desktop file, there should be no bamf application signaled [10:28] Also it's marked with the starting property, thus you can filter them out if you want. [10:29] Trevinho, it has no desktop-file but it is a BamfApplication, and I don't want to use this new API to workaround this behaviour change ;) [10:30] I had no time to really debug it yet [10:32] ricotz: weird. Since we only care about apps with desktop files. If you can paste a log of GDBus monitoring bamf interface or a test case would be nice [10:36] Trevinho, I can see an additional application "/org/ayatana/bamf/application/0x..." is created which disappears after a specific timeout (I assume those are the hardcoded 15s) [10:37] ricotz: Mh, that happens when launching what? [10:40] Trevinho, any application (which is pinned and has a proper desktop-file) with the plank's internal starting mechanism which makes use of a GDesktopAppInfo and the GdkDisplay's default GAppLaunchContext === dpm_ is now known as dpm [10:44] Trevinho, I will try to make a small sample application to trigger this problem [10:45] ricotz: well, we use the same thing to launch apps in unity as well... [10:46] And so we do when launching from the dash [10:49] Laney: https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/gnome-documents/debian/changelog?r1=47555&r2=47588 <- are you aware of these gnome-documents/libreoffice interdependencies and do we need to care? [10:50] Sweet5hark: is the problem that you can't install gnome-documents? [10:50] hikiko, so you think that's what is causing the Xorg crash, which is what is causing the compiz crash? [10:53] Laney: Im still following down the rabbit hole. The issue seems that gnome-documents crashes if some libreoffice is installed, but there is no liblibreofficekitgtk.so ... [10:53] Sweet5hark: looks like rene added that in 5.1.1-1 [10:53] I think that it's possible that some packages update in wrong order or there are dependencies missing and some scripts that run can't find modules or sth they need and crash. [10:53] Probably want that too [10:54] Laney: that can easily happen for us as the *.so isnt in the commonly installed packages. [10:54] Laney: right. [10:54] that UUID.pm for example that is missing from perl: there might be some install script that uses perl and need it [10:55] dist-upgrade crashes without x running [10:55] Laney: I havent merged -1 yet (I usually stop doing full merges around feature freeze to prevent regressions). I take that as I should get that change cherry-picked still for us? [10:56] willcooke, it seems that the compiz/X crash is a consequence not the reason of the upgrade failure [10:57] maybe packagers can find out more on why dist-upgrade fails [10:57] * Sweet5hark takes a look at _rene_s commits. [10:58] Trevinho, I guess there must be another factor to trigger it [10:59] hikiko, could this (invalid) bug be related? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/1444502 [10:59] Launchpad bug 1444502 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "sysv-rc uses /sbin/runlevel without depending on a package that provides it" [Undecided,Invalid] [11:01] I see that message too willcooke but I really don't know much about packages and dependencies, it could definitely be 1 of the missing dependencies but I don't know if that's the only bug or if this causes the crash [11:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/15471226/ these are the repos I used btw, I commented out everything else [11:02] so the packages must be in one of those 2 [11:03] pitti, we've got an upgrade problem going from 14.04 -> 16.04. The upgrade crashes half way through and if you reboot the box at that point you can end up with a kernel panic. [11:03] *urgh* [11:03] Laney: this situation is rather ... unfortunate. [11:03] pitti, Laney did some debugging yesterday and we saw compiz crash because (I think) Xorg went away. hikiko has done some more testing thigs morning [11:04] pitti, at seen a message about /sbin/runlevel: not found cron stop/waiting [11:04] Sweet5hark: oh yeah? [11:04] pitti, I wondered if this could be a not-systemd -> systemd issue? [11:04] yes I saw that too [11:04] willcooke, [11:04] since the crash causes a kernel panic [11:05] and the message is that it cant mount the rootfs [11:06] it's possible that during the upgrade the initrd is not created by the kernel [11:06] willcooke: could be if it happens in the middle of updating trusty's upstart to xenial's systemd-sysv (which contains /sbin/runlevel); but we need the full upgrade log to see what's going on [11:06] and then everything crashes [11:06] and with this bug it's not really easy to get a log [11:06] I mean with the fs in that state [11:07] dist-upgrade shows problems in packages [11:07] maybe we should start from there [11:07] solve the dependencies issues etc [11:07] and then try update manager again [11:07] and see if we still get the issue [11:07] you sohuld have /var/log/dist-upgrade/ [11:08] I think that some post upgrade script cant run for some reason and crashes the upgrade [11:08] right (apparently cron) [11:08] yep [11:08] and we need to see when that happens, which package crahes, and what the unpack/cofigure state of init, upstart, systemd-sysv etc. is [11:08] and that should all be in /v/l/d-u/apt-term.log [11:09] let me see if I can retrieve that log otherwise I ll dist upgrade 1 more time [11:09] but unfortunately I can't help with packaging I don't understand much there [11:09] Laney: a/ some versions of gnome-documents apparently crash when libreoffice is installed, but liblibreofficekitgtk.so is missing [11:09] Laney: b/ we currently ship liblibreofficekitgtk.so in libreoffice-gtk3 [11:09] Laney: c/ but libreoffice-gtk3 is still mostly experimental, isnt installed in the default install -- its basically only there for the adventurous to test it out, not for production use. LibreOffice picks it up by default over the (stable) -gtk2 backend though. This wasnt an issue as long as the only people installing libreoffice-gtk3 were doing so knowing they are in for a ride ... [11:11] oh, hang on. lemme see where rene moved liblibreofficekitgtk.so to ... [11:16] Trevinho, hmm, bamf broke its abi [11:17] https://paste.debian.net/plain/418005 you cant insert those new symbols you *must* append them at the end [11:18] Sweet5hark: I guess that liblibreofficekitgtk probably uses gtk3 specific stuff [11:18] ricotz: yeah... I just thought I missed that when you mentioned the abi breakage. -_- [11:18] Laney: yes. it is. [11:19] Sweet5hark: do you know if our version 3.18.2 is affected? [11:19] ricotz: would you mind providing a quick branch for fixing it? [11:21] Trevinho, there are even more I guess :\ [11:21] pitti, history log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15471444/ term: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15471449/ [11:22] ricotz: no, only this one changed on lib side http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/bamf/trunk/revision/625#lib/libbamf/bamf-view.h [11:22] I actually asked andyrock not to break the abi, but I didn't notice he used the wrong pos [11:30] Laney: Checking back with _rene_ right now. But yeah, that would be good: 3.18 isnt affected, it starts with 3.20 ... [11:31] luckyyyyy [11:33] Laney: in system settings on the live desktop Display is Displays on the installed system it is called Screen Display, why is there a difference there? [11:35] Laney: and as homework please tell me how that will work next time around when LibreOffice is in a snap :D [11:36] Sweet5hark: It's done with mirrors and magnets like all good magic ;) [11:36] davmor2: fairydust! [11:36] Sweet5hark: but mostly misdirection [11:37] davmor2: I would guess it is translated like that [11:37] Look a threeheaded Monkey, and there we go LibreOffice installed with no issues [11:38] Laney: ah cool thanks hadn't thought of there [11:38] that even [11:39] Trevinho, https://code.launchpad.net/~ricotz/bamf/fix-abi , I am surprised this doesnt cause more trouble for me, although it isn't the source of my original problem [11:39] davmor2: try with LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 unity-control-center [11:40] Laney: no it's fine there are a bunch of changes so locale makes perfect sense [11:40] 'k [11:49] hikiko: hm, there's no error in that log -- is that from a subsequent do-release-upgrade, after the initial failure? [11:49] ricotz: to see what could cause your issue you might check also "dbus-monitor --session --monitor "interface='org.gtk.gio.DesktopAppInfo'"" [11:49] ricotz: it should tell you what bamf catches [11:50] together with gdbus monitor --session --dest org.ayatana.bamf [11:51] jibel, willcooke: FFS pending install "Installation Failed, The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again." [11:52] davmor2, crap. grab the logs from /var/log/installer and /var/log/syslog [11:52] this just isn't funny anymore [11:52] Trevinho, thanks [11:52] jibel: I'm waiting for it to get into desktop mode then It'll file a bug with that info in [11:52] davmor2, I think it's just you, you have a bad juju [11:53] davmor2, jibel - slangask has said they'll help, just need to log bugs so they can take a look. [11:53] I doubt it's something insurmountable [11:54] also, thanks for testing it davmor2 [11:54] right, no doubt we'll release something this week [11:55] Trevinho, I found the problem [11:55] Oh god even the terminal doesn't start on pending [11:55] ricotz: what's happening? [11:56] * davmor2 starts xterm [11:56] Trevinho, I was using g_desktop_app_info_new_from_keyfile to reuse the object since I am doing some further parsing, of course this results in the passed desktop-filename being empty on the launch call [11:57] ricotz: ah, I see... [11:57] Trevinho, so g_desktop_app_info_new_from_filename sets it [11:57] ricotz: however, I'm still wondering why this causes a bamfapp to be created [11:57] sounds like a gio API problem for me ;) [11:57] ricotz: what you get when monitoring that call? [11:57] I mean, on dbus, what's get called? [11:58] since bamfdaemon should ignore the thing if desktop_file == NULL [11:58] ah.... wait, maybe it's an empty string. [11:58] pitti, it seems that term.log wasn't updated in the last upgrade [11:58] Trevinho, https://paste.debian.net/plain/418016 [11:59] Trevinho, it is an empty string yes [12:00] I think this is wrong (old code, not mine): [12:00] matcher = bamf_matcher_get_default (); [12:00] g_variant_get_child (parameters, 0, "^&ay", &desktop_file); [12:00] g_variant_get_child (parameters, 2, "x", &pid); [12:00] we should check the value actually... I'll fix it in a bit [12:01] Trevinho, still it shows a minor flaw in plank's source ;) [12:02] jibel, willcooke, cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1560459 [12:02] Launchpad bug 1560459 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Using Pending iso ubiquity crashes before the first page opens" [Undecided,New] [12:03] Trevinho, btw not sure what happens in GDesktopAppInfo for G_KEY_FILE_DESKTOP_TYPE_LINK G_KEY_FILE_DESKTOP_TYPE_DIRECTORY [12:04] davmor2, Mar 22 11:49:14 ubuntu ubiquity[1614]: GLib.GError: vte-pty-error: grantpt failed: Operation not permitted (1) [12:04] did something change recently with the vte [12:05] jibel: might explain why the terminal app doesn't open also [12:05] davmor2, yes same reason [12:11] davmor2, there is new vte on 16.03 [12:11] willcooke, not a slangasek thing but for your team [12:15] Laney, ^ any thoughts on this vte-pty-error ^^? Note: it's running from the pending ISO === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [12:15] jibel: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/desktop-screenshots/terminal-error.png who knew copy paste didn't work in xterm well where there is a will :D [12:16] willcooke: ^ the terminal opening error [12:16] willcooke, I'll ask nuclearbob to force the promotion to current once there is a valid image [12:17] willcooke, automated smoketest are currently failing due to some ssh issue [12:17] jibel: yeah it probably can't start the service or a terminal to test it :D [12:18] davmor2: /usr/lib/gnome-terminal/gnome-terminal-server [12:20] Laney: Locale not supported [12:20] locale; locale -a [12:23] never mind I can see this too [12:23] needless to say this is not a vte problem [12:25] Trevinho, is there an eta when the fixed bamf will hit the archive since pushing my fixes will result in builds against a broken abi [12:33] Hi Laney, since it's final beta times, I'm worrying about the seed MP:s at bug #1468027. lubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop depends on/recommends fonts-droid which no longer exists in the Xenial archive. [12:33] bug 1468027 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "change default CJK fonts to Noto CJK" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1468027 [12:38] Laney: indeed [12:40] Laney: so what do I file that bug against [12:48] davmor2: glibc probably, just pinged in devel [12:48] GunnarHj: yeah the sponsoring queue looks worrying in general [12:50] Laney: Right. Isn't that going to result in problems with the beta releases? === maclin1 is now known as maclin [12:51] Laney: le sigh, and what about the vte issue that is making cyphermox cry as ubiquity doesn't run? [12:52] what vte issue? [12:53] Laney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1560459 [12:53] Launchpad bug 1560459 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Using Pending iso ubiquity crashes before the first page opens" [Undecided,New] [12:54] Laney: it was that issue that uncovered the none starting terminal === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [13:01] davmor2: don't know, if you use sudo it starts === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:05] ah ha! [13:06] Seems that GtkBox doesn't support padding unless it's in a frame [13:07] Laney: yeah, it says "grantpt" which ought to mean something about granting something else. [13:07] cyphermox: hahaha [13:07] ;) [13:07] great sentence [13:07] I write good. [13:07] I also write goof [13:08] reverting vte changes nothing [13:08] I call external factor [13:08] I agree [13:10] ricotz: I also have to add unity to the silo and rebuild it... [13:17] Laney: I'll compare with previous images and we'll find what changed [13:20] cyphermox: glibx [13:20] c [13:20] just downgraded it [13:21] that alone? [13:21] well I didn't re-upgrade vte [13:21] but doubt that makes a difference :) [13:21] I am kind of surprised it is glibc tbh [13:21] but oh well ;) [13:23] that's where grantpt comes from [13:23] ah, that changes things [13:24] well, I'm sure infinity knows all about it [13:24] suggest you confirm though [13:24] hey all [13:25] hi andyrock [13:37] ricotz: can you check https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/bamf/ignore-desktopless-preregistration/+merge/289792 ? [13:37] andyrock: too ^ [13:55] this is awesome [13:55] i'm working in a cafe this morning.. the one in my building, i've often been here before [13:55] they got a new wifi and in the ssid it says "1 hour guest" [13:56] i connect, start using it, no captive portals, everything works.... i start wondering "hmm.. how does this 1 hour guest thing work..." [13:56] desrt: Subtle1 [13:56] after almost an hour of using it i open the news to take a quick look and hit a captive portal page [13:56] mac changer time [13:56] ... oh.. is my hour up?... [13:56] no.... [13:57] turns out that it redirects http traffic to the captive portal page [13:57] and lets everything else (https included) straight through [13:57] hahaha [13:57] sweet [14:02] I work out of a cafe once a week or so. Put on trousers, pretend not to be a hermit. You know. Well, one cafe I used attached to a hospital blocked everything not part of "web" usage. I had to set my home machine to listen to port 443 for ssh. It's the only port they don't try to mess with. [14:03] willcooke Laney do we need to put xserver-xorg-lts-wily-dev in unity-trusty/debian as a required dependecy? i had problem building it because of it [14:04] qengho: i moved my linode over to ssh on port 443 ages ago. never looked back. [14:04] this, plus socks proxy support in ssh makes for smooth surfing [14:06] andyrock: umm I don't think so [14:06] k [14:08] maybe Trevinho knows? [14:10] andyrock: trusty version needs that :o? [14:10] yeah basically if i do apt-get build-dep unity [14:10] it fails [14:11] andyrock: I build unity without that... [14:11] andyrock: try with just sudo mk-build-deps -i [14:11] because it requires xservser.xorg-dev [14:11] ah ok [14:11] but build-deps should work too ;) [14:11] ah... wait that might because it's trusty 14.04.04 [14:11] thus... [14:11] it has xserver-xorg-lts-wily installed by default maybe [14:12] which I don't in my trusty install [14:12] probably something weird if you build it in an existing system [14:12] sbuild/pbuilder would be ok with the existing ones I should think [14:12] nope i installed it from the last available iso [14:13] that's the thing [14:14] Trevinho, regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/bamf/+bug/1560486 -- the version of bamf is at 0.5.3 [14:14] Launchpad bug 1560486 in bamf (Ubuntu) "Revision 625 broke ABI compatibility" [High,In progress] [14:14] man [14:15] glib is still hanging [14:15] even with a new kernel [14:16] ricotz: I know, but I've to do the milestone for that... Although I'd probably just remove the upstream handling of bugs in bamf as well. [14:17] ricotz: I'll migrate these once I've an upstream release though [14:17] * Laney cries [14:17] * Laney goes to cry into a bowl of curry [14:17] curry tears... [14:18] It might be a new successful recipe [14:23] Laney: mmm [14:23] Laney: yr makin me hungry and it's not even 10:30 yet [14:32] Trevinho, alright [14:55] Anybody seen this before? "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 691: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!" [15:03] Anyone know if I can write a CSS rule to only match a specific application? I've made some changes to the toggle buttons for Rhythmbox and I wonder if I need to limit it to only rb, and if I do - how to do that [15:03] I don't see anything specific in the selector tool in the inspector for rb [15:06] the button has a "buildable ID" but not a name it seems [15:13] qengho: your dynamic linker is angry? fun! [15:13] Usually my angry linker is dynamic. [15:14] Sweet5hark: it's some snappy hackery and probably my fault. [15:15] qengho: thought so, but no -- I havent seen that one before ... [15:30] woah, that crept up quickly... [15:31] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-22 [15:31] Meeting started Tue Mar 22 15:31:17 2016 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-22 | Current topic: [15:31] Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko (out), laney, qengho, seb128 (hols), sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [15:31] aye [15:31] hi [15:31] hi [15:32] hey hey [15:32] hi [15:33] hey [15:34] Let's get started then [15:34] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-22 | Current topic: andyrock [15:34] hey [15:34] i've been working on completing some branches from the past weeks [15:34] reviews [15:34] and now working on the crash [15:35] i managed to get a crash but gdb crashed too [15:35] hehe [15:35] i'm trying to get a core file [15:35] and more debug info from compiz [15:35] but the vm is kind of messed up [15:36] super, thanks andyrock. Please make that #1 priority. hikiko is looking as well, if you can take the lead on that bug and let hikiko know the best thing to do to help that would be good. [15:36] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/kxQlPlKR/ [15:36] rather than duplicating effort [15:36] sure thing [15:36] looks like memory corruption [15:36] Let's chat again tomorrow afternoon and see what we know. Beta is looming, so would be good to get that nailed down asap. [15:37] davmor2, cyphermox - FYI. andyrock will be leading the upgrade crash investigation, so please sync with him if you need any info / have a new discovery [15:37] sure [15:38] great, thanks andyrock [15:38] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-22 | Current topic: attente [15:38] more gnome-software bugs, updating the appstream index on first install, as well as some other crashers [15:39] looked into the GS gapplication situation with desrt, will commit some quick fixes, but might need to do some major rewriting to properly fix [15:39] (eof) [15:39] good stuff, thanks attente [15:39] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-22 | Current topic: desrt [15:39] attente: are you booked for the sprint? [15:39] the usual bugs, reviews, etc. [15:40] Laney, still waiting on the budget ack [15:40] getting into time-consuming arguments with people via email who consider the ability to seed a pseudo-random number generator to be a "backdoor" [15:40] paying more attention to gnome-software and trying to pus it towards being a more typical gtkapplication user to solve some of the problems we've been seeing [15:40] a couple of releases will be out today [15:40] eof [15:41] thanks desrt, and thanks for the input to g-s [15:41] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-22 | Current topic: dgadomski [15:41] hey, unfortunately nothing to share, took a couple of days off last week. [15:41] That's it, thanks. [15:41] :) cheers dgadomski [15:41] #topic FJKong === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-22 | Current topic: FJKong [15:41] 1 Test sogou im inputing Chinese in TeXmacs. [15:41] if fullscreen then candidate word window will not right [15:41] 2 Could not login into Desktop after input password. Reported by user [15:41] one is caused by evnorinment problem, still other user report this bug. [15:41] 3 Cannot input Chinese characters into TextField in a QML application [15:41] needs ubuntu-sdk team guys to confirm environment not take effect [15:42] eof [15:42] can I go next pls [15:42] thanks FJKong [15:42] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-22 | Current topic: Laney [15:42] need to run downstairs quickly /o\ [15:42] thanks [15:42] • I worked on a branch for appstream-dep11 that fixes packages not appearing in the release when they migrate out of proposed [15:42] • Looked at some FFes including ones I was pinged about [15:42] • Gave some advice on icon stuff for appstream - there are a few requests that need attention in the sponsor queue now [15:42] • Looked at some live CD bugs which both turned out to be introduced by the new glibc /o\ [15:42] • Helped Gunnar with some yelp fixes & did some investigation there [15:42] • New gvfs, glib (this build hangs on s390x, not sure why, so it's stuck in xenial-proposed), gstreamer [15:42] • Gave some maybe not so helpful help with gnome-terminal theming [15:42] ἧ [15:43] :) thanks Laney [15:43] yeah, I don't think those fixes are going to do the job. I'm still keen on disabling that box. Will email you more details anon [15:43] #topic happyaron === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-22 | Current topic: happyaron [15:43] hey [15:43] 1. Guest session apparmor for input methods (fcitx, mozc) [15:43] 2. Yet another update to zfs-linux/spl-linux [15:43] 3. Sponsor uploads: sdcc, ubuntukylin-theme [15:43] 4. In-progress: ubuntukylin-wallpapers [15:43] 5. Will go to Changsha on Wed for mini-sprint with NUDT [15:43] EOF [15:44] thanks happyaron [15:44] #topic hikiko === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-03-22 | Current topic: hikiko [15:44] * ezoom: [15:44] - fixed a bug in the translation matrices caused by the different coordinate systems we use in ezoom and unity ([-1, 1] vs pixel coordinates) [15:44] - working on another transformation bug [15:44] * "compiz crashes during update" bug: [15:44] - it seems that the compiz crash is the result of another dist-upgrade problem and we have to find out what crashes the upgrade to fix it. [15:44] EOF [15:44] jey [15:44] hey [15:44] I just noticed something! [15:44]