| Bashing-om | !fstab | 01:15 |
|---|---|---|
| ubot5 | The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | 01:15 |
| === DrGonzo is now known as Guest53769 | ||
| daftykins | >:D | 01:17 |
| Bashing-om | He's alive, he's alive ^^ :) | 01:19 |
| daftykins | only barely! | 01:21 |
| Bashing-om | Oh, tough day pulling cable ? | 01:21 |
| daftykins | hehe nah, pretty quiet as it goes | 01:28 |
| daftykins | finalised the motion detection config on a CCTV system though | 01:28 |
| Bashing-om | Pulled the cable for the CCTV yesterday huh ? | 01:30 |
| daftykins | nah this one is going to Spain | 01:32 |
| daftykins | just a local test | 01:32 |
| Bashing-om | Networking, keeps the mind active . | 01:36 |
| daftykins | ooh you remind me! the router should be back in stock | 01:37 |
| Bashing-om | Parts, parts, we got to have parts . ummmm .. what port for what ??? | 01:40 |
| daftykins | hmm the router? just more gear for spain | 01:43 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 06:05 |
| baizon | hi lotuspsychje | 07:15 |
| lotuspsychje | hey baizon | 07:15 |
| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/edubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus-will-not-be-a-long-term-support-lts-release-502003.shtml | 07:17 |
| baizon | yep, i think its dead | 07:17 |
| lotuspsychje | well the packages can be installed widely on every ubuntu anyways | 07:18 |
| lotuspsychje | !edubuntu | 07:18 |
| ubot5 | Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org | 07:19 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c its site | 07:19 |
| baizon | last news is 1 year old | 07:19 |
| lotuspsychje | wow | 07:19 |
| lotuspsychje | 14.04.2 :p | 07:19 |
| baizon | ok, got hexchat 2.12.0 :) | 08:03 |
| lotuspsychje | !info hexchat | 08:03 |
| ubot5 | hexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.2-1ubuntu2 (wily), package size 330 kB, installed size 932 kB | 08:03 |
| lotuspsychje | !info hexchat xenial | 08:04 |
| ubot5 | hexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.2-1ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 330 kB, installed size 932 kB | 08:04 |
| lotuspsychje | right :p | 08:04 |
| lotuspsychje | baizon: any cool changes? | 08:04 |
| baizon | lotuspsychje: https://hexchat.github.io/news/2.12.0.html | 08:04 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c | 08:04 |
| baizon | lotuspsychje: for me the most important is... IRCv3.2, and twitch chat support | 08:05 |
| lotuspsychje | alot of fixes there so it seems | 08:06 |
| lotuspsychje | i also found hexchat more laggy then xchat | 08:07 |
| baizon | well, everything is working quiet well for me | 08:07 |
| lotuspsychje | baizon: wich Os your on mate? | 08:07 |
| baizon | Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 • CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 B55 Processor (2,10GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7,6 GiB Total (6,4 GiB Free) Swap: 3,7 GiB Total (3,7 GiB Free) • Storage: 1,2 TB / 1,7 TB (536,0 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Curacao PRO [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270/370 OEM] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD790 Host Bridge • Uptime: 7m 5s | 08:08 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 08:08 |
| lotuspsychje | baizon: radeon drivers? | 08:08 |
| baizon | yep | 08:08 |
| lotuspsychje | same here, but old old X800 ati :p | 08:09 |
| baizon | i like to play games, so got a better card | 08:09 |
| lotuspsychje | i see, what kind of games you running? | 08:09 |
| baizon | but will buy a new cpu this year | 08:09 |
| baizon | Dota, CS:GO, Insurgency. Now I'm gonna play Darkest Dungeon | 08:09 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 08:10 |
| lotuspsychje | i like hack n slash games :p | 08:10 |
| lotuspsychje | living daylights looks cool | 08:11 |
| lotuspsychje | and shadow of mordor | 08:11 |
| lotuspsychje | played alot of oldskool sof2, ut2004 and hl2 back in the days | 08:11 |
| baizon | :D | 08:11 |
| lotuspsychje | morning Jordan_U | 08:12 |
| Jordan_U | Does AMD GPU Pro support Wayland? If not what is missing for it to be supported? | 08:13 |
| Jordan_U | lotuspsychje: Morning. | 08:14 |
| baizon | i think every open source driver supports wayland / mir | 08:14 |
| baizon | Jordan_U: AMD/ATI: Requires open source driver (radeon/ati, not fglrx/catalyst). DRM output requires kernel version 2.6.38. Cards probably work back to Radeon 7200 (2000). | 08:14 |
| baizon | like i said | 08:14 |
| Jordan_U | baizon: AMD GPU "pro" is the hybrid stack, open kernel module with proprietary userland. | 08:15 |
| baizon | ou ok | 08:15 |
| lotuspsychje | phoronix website also holds alot of usefull info | 08:15 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=phoronix_news | 08:17 |
| lotuspsychje | and the #gamingonlinux guys always informed up to date also | 08:20 |
| lotuspsychje | morning cfhowlett | 09:04 |
| cfhowlett | evening lotuspsychje | 09:08 |
| lotuspsychje | konbanwa :p | 09:08 |
| cfhowlett | indeed! | 09:09 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:12 |
| lotuspsychje | hey lordievader | 09:12 |
| lordievader | Hey lotuspsychje, how are you? | 09:13 |
| lotuspsychje | fine tnx and you? | 09:14 |
| lotuspsychje | browsing ubuntu news + coffee | 09:14 |
| lordievader | Attacks in Brussels, huh? | 09:15 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: hmm lemme check | 09:16 |
| lordievader | http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/4234405/doden-en-gewonden-aanslagen-luchthaven-en-metrostations-brussel.html | 09:16 |
| lotuspsychje | wow wtf | 09:17 |
| baizon | yep | 09:17 |
| baizon | happens | 09:17 |
| baizon | just in this moment saw it in the news | 09:17 |
| lotuspsychje | thats 100km from here oO | 09:18 |
| lordievader | That is pretty close for you, lotuspsychje | 09:21 |
| lotuspsychje | yep tnx for the heads up lordievader | 09:21 |
| lotuspsychje | even hit cnn news | 09:21 |
| lotuspsychje | http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/22/europe/brussels-explosions/index.html | 09:22 |
| lordievader | New agencies live for this kind of thing. | 09:22 |
| cfhowlett | as do the terrorists. | 09:22 |
| lotuspsychje | this acts in the name of religion.... | 09:23 |
| lordievader | Don't they die for it? | 09:23 |
| lotuspsychje | they surely wont eat pudding with golden spoons in heaven | 09:25 |
| cfhowlett | actually, the leaders live on. the more gullible followers die. kind of like generals and privates. | 09:25 |
| lotuspsychje | true | 09:26 |
| lordievader | True. | 09:29 |
| lotuspsychje | hey EriC^^ | 10:31 |
| EriC^^ | hey lotuspsychje | 10:31 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: big bombing in belgium, 24 casualities already oO | 10:31 |
| EriC^^ | damn | 10:32 |
| EriC^^ | sorry about that | 10:33 |
| EriC^^ | your friends and family are safe? | 10:33 |
| lotuspsychje | yes, its 100km from here | 10:34 |
| lotuspsychje | wb | 10:45 |
| tsimonq2 | O___O oh my god, I just realized how far we are in the Xenial cycle, jeez | 13:01 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 13:01 |
| tsimonq2 | like, SERIOUSLY | 13:01 |
| lotuspsychje | feature freeze in 2 :p | 13:01 |
| tsimonq2 | Adam sent out the Final Beta Freeze yesterday night | 13:01 |
| tsimonq2 | *Final* *Beta* *Freeze* | 13:02 |
| cfhowlett | yep. 1 month ... | 13:02 |
| cfhowlett | of course, I will wait for the .1 to actually upgrade my system, but I will vbox 16.04 on release | 13:02 |
| lotuspsychje | i cant wait so long :p | 13:03 |
| tsimonq2 | I've been running it since Wily was released XD | 13:03 |
| baizon | phi, using 16.04 already :D | 13:04 |
| baizon | pretty stable | 13:04 |
| * tsimonq2 gives baizon a high-five | 13:04 | |
| baizon | 0 crashes or problem | 13:04 |
| baizon | problems | 13:04 |
| tsimonq2 | yeah totally | 13:04 |
| tsimonq2 | the only problem I have that wasn't caused by me was because I was using the apt team's PPA, and all I had to do was recompile a new version of apt, which is easy :D | 13:06 |
| tsimonq2 | and I break my install about once every month XD | 13:07 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 13:07 |
| tsimonq2 | lol you would think I'm joking, I'm really not XD | 13:08 |
| lotuspsychje | hey BluesKaj | 13:11 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 13:11 |
| BluesKaj | hi lotuspsychje | 13:11 |
| tsimonq2 | lol right now I'm actually doing a reinstall before a meeting in like 45 minutes :D | 13:12 |
| lotuspsychje | tsimonq2: nice1 | 13:13 |
| tsimonq2 | lotuspsychje: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/apds04.html is actually a really nice guide for doing this, instead of using an installation media now, I'll do this, because even if it takes longer, on first boot I can have everything. :) | 13:14 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c | 13:14 |
| lotuspsychje | tsimonq2: lookin neat | 13:16 |
| tsimonq2 | O__O https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ is really neat for when I'm feeling lazy XD | 13:17 |
| tsimonq2 | (I know how to manually type it all out) | 13:17 |
| lotuspsychje | never knew there was a generator like this | 13:18 |
| tsimonq2 | totally | 13:18 |
| tsimonq2 | I've used one for Debian, but this is awesome | 13:19 |
| tsimonq2 | O_O I just had an idea! I should try and use ncurses and such, and get a package in the Ubuntu repos that will automatically do this! | 13:19 |
| tsimonq2 | (if there isn't one already) | 13:19 |
| TJ- | debootstrap is the standard method for building images; its what the installer uses | 13:19 |
| tsimonq2 | something like software-properties-gtk for the terminal | 13:20 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: it is already there; it is called debian-installer :) | 13:20 |
| tsimonq2 | TJ-: but don't they do some special stuff to the images? | 13:20 |
| tsimonq2 | TJ-: no, for the sources.list | 13:20 |
| tsimonq2 | \o/ unless I'm wrong, TJ- :) | 13:20 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: debootstrap generates sources.list based on its command-line arguments. If you have "debootstrap ... --components=main,universe,multiverse" ... http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" it'll use that | 13:21 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: and of course you can install additional packages as required with "--include=<package1>,<package2>,..." | 13:22 |
| tsimonq2 | I get your point, but if a user wants to edit the sources.list on an installed system and doesn't want to touch configs? | 13:22 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: well generally the idea is for additional sources to have them in separate files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<name>.list | 13:23 |
| tsimonq2 | hmm | 13:23 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: usually /etc/apt/sources.list only contains the standard Ubuntu archive entries. | 13:23 |
| tsimonq2 | well, no, I mean for official Ubuntu repos, this theoretical tool would be like https://repogen.simplylinux.ch but WITHOUT the extra repos | 13:24 |
| tsimonq2 | it's probably been done before :) | 13:24 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: you'll find that for most Debian/Ubuntu system services, they use the /etc/<package>/<package.conffile>.d/ method so the config can call 'runparts' to build the full config from file fragments | 13:24 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: well, it's easy to generate from the current Locale plus the mirror list, of course | 13:25 |
| tsimonq2 | alright :) | 13:26 |
| tsimonq2 | lotuspsychje: curious, do you have any involvement of building the ISOs in the Ubuntu archive, or have you just asked the right people in terms of the process | 13:29 |
| lotuspsychje | tsimonq2: no i dont mess with iso building | 13:29 |
| tsimonq2 | ahh alright :) | 13:30 |
| TJ- | there's also the ubumirror package - targeted at mirror operators themselves, but it has some useful info in its README for example, as well as the scripts themselves | 13:30 |
| lotuspsychje | remastersys or uck | 13:30 |
| tsimonq2 | lotuspsychje: hm? | 13:30 |
| lotuspsychje | !info uck | 13:31 |
| ubot5 | uck (source: uck): Tool to customize official Ubuntu Live CDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.7-0ubuntu2 (wily), package size 145 kB, installed size 384 kB | 13:31 |
| tsimonq2 | oh | 13:31 |
| tsimonq2 | okay | 13:31 |
| tsimonq2 | TJ-: told ya they have been done before :) | 13:31 |
| tsimonq2 | thanks lotuspsychje :) | 13:32 |
| lotuspsychje | np | 13:32 |
| TJ- | My image builder scripts generally use the Locale to figure out the correct target config | 13:33 |
| tsimonq2 | I would love to learn how to make an image, it would really help a team I'm in | 13:34 |
| tsimonq2 | TJ-: you have insight into this process? | 13:34 |
| TJ- | tsimonq2: I've been working with the installer mechanisms for ~10 years | 13:37 |
| tsimonq2 | sweet! where do I get started? :D | 13:38 |
| TJ- | My scripts expect a local apt-cacher-ng proxy to ensure the install rarely needs to fetch packages from the archive servers more than once | 13:38 |
| tsimonq2 | oh I've seen those used in schroot systems :) | 13:38 |
| tsimonq2 | TJ-: BTW, while I have someone here who knows what he's doing with this, rather than telling *me*, if you have the time, it would be awesome if you could update https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization , it doesn't work in Xenial | 13:40 |
| * tsimonq2 kicks systemd | 13:40 | |
| TJ- | using something like Ansible is a good way to ensure a consistent deployment, too | 13:40 |
| tsimonq2 | what's Ansible? | 13:41 |
| lotuspsychje | !info ansible | 13:41 |
| ubot5 | ansible (source: ansible): Configuration management, deployment, and task execution system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.2+dfsg-2 (wily), package size 614 kB, installed size 4161 kB | 13:41 |
| tsimonq2 | aha okay | 13:42 |
| TJ- | It's one of several configuration management/orchastration tools. There's also Puppet, Chef, Salt Stack and some others | 13:42 |
| tsimonq2 | oic | 13:43 |
| TJ- | whats broken about the LiveCD customisation? | 13:43 |
| tsimonq2 | something doesn't work right with the binaries it needs | 13:44 |
| tsimonq2 | it works fine in Trusty but not in Xenial | 13:44 |
| TJ- | well that's not an actionable bug report - too vague :) | 13:44 |
| tsimonq2 | gosh darnit! I'm not aiming for a bug report! I'm asking you to try it in Xenial, you are more experienced than me and you can spot the bad stuff :) | 13:45 |
| tsimonq2 | lol | 13:45 |
| TJ- | I've got other things to do | 13:45 |
| tsimonq2 | lol ok :) | 13:46 |
| TJ- | the beauty of F/OSS is you can narrow down the problem yourself and then report it to the team/project that could fix it. If it is just instructions then you can edit the Wiki appropriately | 13:46 |
| TJ- | As lotuspsychje pointed out, uck is the tool we generally use | 13:47 |
| tsimonq2 | I can tell you *exactly* what went wrong :) | 13:49 |
| tsimonq2 | aha, different, but related buide, maybe subguide? | 13:50 |
| tsimonq2 | I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch | 13:50 |
| tsimonq2 | cp /usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin image/isolinux/ | 13:50 |
| tsimonq2 | cp /boot/memtest86+.bin image/install/memtest | 13:50 |
| tsimonq2 | that doesn't work in Xenial ^ | 13:50 |
| lotuspsychje | tsimonq2: http://ubtutorials.com/tutorial/699/how-create-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-or-usb-easy-way | 13:50 |
| lotuspsychje | !info uck xenial | 13:51 |
| ubot5 | uck (source: uck): Tool to customize official Ubuntu Live CDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.7-0ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 145 kB, installed size 384 kB | 13:51 |
| tsimonq2 | TJ-: as in, those files are not there at all | 13:51 |
| tsimonq2 | aww come on lotuspsychje, that's GUI and it has presets... :/ | 13:52 |
| TJ- | apt-cache show uck | 13:55 |
| TJ- | Features: | 13:55 |
| TJ- | * Create bootable LiveCD with predefined languages based upon an original | 13:55 |
| TJ- | Ubuntu/Kubuntu live CD using graphical wizard. | 13:55 |
| TJ- | * Build live CD with special features using scripts. It is possible to | 13:55 |
| TJ- | customize the root filesystem (for example install/remove packages), ISO | 13:55 |
| TJ- | contents (add/remove docs, change names) and initrd (add modules to boot, | 13:55 |
| TJ- | change boot sequence). | 13:55 |
| TJ- | So, both GUI and build scripts | 13:55 |
| tsimonq2 | oh? so scripts? | 13:55 |
| tsimonq2 | hmm, I'll play around with thatr | 13:57 |
| tsimonq2 | *that | 13:57 |
| TJ- | the 'GUI' is just a wrapper around the scripts themselves | 14:02 |
| lotuspsychje | baizon: wb :p | 14:58 |
| baizon | :P | 14:58 |
| lotuspsychje | i sit here on a chair | 14:58 |
| lotuspsychje | waiting for your return hahaha | 14:59 |
| baizon | rofl | 14:59 |
| baizon | ok :D | 14:59 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/kde-plasma-5-6-released | 15:00 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm not bad | 15:02 |
| BluesKaj_ | yeah, too bad it's not available to Xenial | 15:05 |
| lotuspsychje | oh? | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj_ | the ppa goes up to wily, no further | 15:10 |
| BluesKaj_ | lotuspsychje, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports | 15:11 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj_: wich plasma will be default on xenial then | 15:11 |
| BluesKaj_ | it's probly too early | 15:12 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 15:12 |
| lotuspsychje | feature freeze in 2 days so | 15:12 |
| BluesKaj_ | dunno, most likely 5.6 will get there by release time | 15:12 |
| lotuspsychje | lets hope :pµ | 15:13 |
| BluesKaj_ | I'm looking forward to Wayland integration | 15:15 |
| lotuspsychje | but canonical more focussing on mir right | 15:16 |
| lotuspsychje | im curious about the xorg death :p | 15:18 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl spaghetti | 15:21 |
| BluesKaj_ | well, kubuntu is being dev'd by Blue Systems anyway so I'm not sure how much Canonical has to say about replacing X with Wayland | 15:22 |
| TJ- | I've dumped kubuntu/kde, it has become a massive resource hog | 15:30 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: back to unity? | 16:34 |
| TJ- | crikey no! | 16:36 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 16:36 |
| TJ- | wouldn't get me to install that even if you kidnapped the huskies! | 16:36 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: so what your on then :p | 16:37 |
| lotuspsychje | didnt you read that 10 reasons for unity haters :p | 16:37 |
| TJ- | XFCE, LXDE, openbox, or pure terminal | 16:37 |
| TJ- | no, I don't pay attention to hate stuff, I just ignore things that aren't of interest | 16:37 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: and all your screens working as well as kde too? | 16:38 |
| TJ- | work better without KDE, yes | 16:39 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 16:39 |
| TJ- | kde lost the abililty to 'know' about multiple X sessions vs multiple monitors per X screen, some time ago - bit-rot and lack of dev's using multi-monitors | 16:40 |
| lotuspsychje | hi nicomachus | 17:12 |
| nicomachus | o/ | 17:13 |
| lotuspsychje | 1900 users in main | 17:46 |
| nicomachus | wew. lots of xenial updates on this machine today. | 17:54 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl dinnertime | 17:55 |
| TJ- | !find rtl8723be.ko | 19:59 |
| ubot5 | Found: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 3 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=rtl8723be.ko&searchon=names&suite=wily§ion=all | 19:59 |
| TJ- | !find rtl8723be.ko trusty | 19:59 |
| ubot5 | File rtl8723be.ko found in linux-image-3.13.0-27-lowlatency, linux-image-3.13.0-29-lowlatency, linux-image-3.13.0-30-lowlatency, linux-image-3.13.0-32-lowlatency, linux-image-3.13.0-33-lowlatency, linux-image-3.13.0-34-lowlatency, linux-image-3.13.0-35-lowlatency, linux-image-3.13.0-36-lowlatency, linux-image-3.13.0-37-lowlatency, linux-image-3.13.0-39-lowlatency (and 196 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=rtl8723be. | 19:59 |
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