[16:04] cyphermox: have you noticed any "interesting" interactions with mokutil changing states and current kernel not working? [16:04] i ask because: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/ed8b0de5a33d2a2557dce7f9429dca8cb5bc5879 seems to muck around pretty poorly [16:05] and at least on my box i was having a hard time making mokutil even work until i changed immutable state on any existing Mok* variables [16:05] heh, I suppose that could be why mokutil says it fails to request state, I don't know [16:05] yep that's exactly what i saw [16:05] change immutable status on variables and it starts to work [16:06] well Work. i haven't seen it work yet, just the variables write out more properly [16:07] I first noticed it affecting fwupdate on a fresh ubuntu install unable to clear old variables, so had to do this: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/uefi/fwupdate.git/commit/?id=b5e8c41e679ac0c6966771881e10f8b89021770e [16:17] right [16:17] I think fwupdate and mokutil need an update to handle this correctly [16:41] well fwupdate seems to handle in usage, it was only in the fresh install scenario (clear out old variables) that it failed [16:41] mokutil seems to fail all over the place