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dragonbiteargh... forgot that because of the clock change, this is not for another hour! Darn Daylight Savings Time (or is it non-DST?)15:02
HaloSponge30 minutes to go ! www.ubuntuonair.com15:29
tsimonq2:D15:29
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LibreSponge15 minutes to go ! www.ubuntuonair.com15:46
ahoneybunwho's on today?15:48
tsimonq2ahoneybun: mhall119 and davidcalle, AFAIR that's what's been on #ubuntu-community-team15:48
mhall119yup, davidcalle and I15:49
ahoneybunthanks tsimonq215:49
LibreSpongemhall119: When do we start asking Questions ?15:49
LibreSponge*please.15:49
mhall119after the top of the house15:49
LibreSpongeerr wat, say that again ?15:50
LibreSponge9 minutes to go ! www.ubuntuonair.com15:50
mhall119you can start asking questions after we start the show, in ~10 minutes15:50
LibreSpongeill pastebin it.15:50
LibreSpongetsimonq2: You like U2theBand ?15:54
LibreSpongehttp://www.u2.com/media/player/112/515:54
LibreSpongeAll 'bout devices today :)    http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/devices15:55
LibreSponge5 minutes to go ! www.ubuntuonair.com15:55
RandMC_one time my linux laptop uninstalled the ubuntu software center accidentally, I just reinstalled it in Terminal and it came back to the menu.15:55
LibreSpongefair enough, well done !15:56
tsimonq2today I reinstalled my system via bootstrap!15:57
tsimonq2starting?16:01
davidcalleHi everyone o/16:02
LibreSpongehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt028wLuI74 refresh screens !16:03
faraoneQUESTION: when a closed and driver for mir?16:03
manu__QUESTION: What are the possibl launch dates for the "BQ Ubuntu tablet" and "Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition"??16:04
LibreSpongeI cant get a good enough connection #jittery16:04
faraone*amd driver for mir16:04
LibreSpongefaraone: You better rephrase that question.16:05
tsimonq2QUESTION: What's your favorite Ubuntu device on the market right now?16:06
LibreSpongeQUESTION: How do I make a beer Advocate scope ?  https://redd.it/4bfnbb16:07
tsimonq2QUESTION: When is the *plan* for Snappy, Unity 8, and Mir to be on the desktop image? If you don't know exactly, what's your guess?16:07
mhall119http://mhall119.com/2016/03/help-make-gnome-software-beautiful/16:07
theBestQUESTION: Why can legacy apps like Gimp, Libreoffice, etc. not run on Mir directly? Why the need for XMir?16:07
BjoernHi... I want to ask about the Bluetooth bug. Ubuntu Touch has pretty much problems to connect to car audio systems [speakerphone feature]. This is a security feature and I guess, this important bug is not right in the focus. Thanks a lot...16:08
LibreSpongeQUESTION: Why is there no mention of Multiboot on the Ubuntu Wiki. Surely your not so arogant to overstate the importance of dual boot on devices are you ?16:08
tsimonq2QUESTION: Have you tried LXQt? If not, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt16:09
LibreSpongeconnection is dodgey at best.16:09
tsimonq2yay UWN! :D16:09
tsimonq2+1 mhall11916:09
LibreSpongetsimonq2: There's just gonna say IDK, or bypass these question. BE PERTINENT.16:09
popeyLibreSponge: wind your neck in16:09
LibreSpongeok. I'm just dipping my toe.16:10
tsimonq2o/ me too16:10
tsimonq2I'm involved in UWN if anyone has questions16:10
LibreSpongeQUESTION: I'm trying adviral ubuntu marketing, but was chastised today - not sure how best to proceed (?)16:11
popeyLibreSponge: chastised how?16:12
tsimonq2QUESTION: What's the difference between X and Mir? If they are the same concept, have there been benchmarks/tests run to show the advantages/disadvantages of each?16:12
tsimonq2(that you know about)16:12
LibreSpongepopey I did this and was hammered by the Mods. https://redd.it/4bhnu116:13
popeymeh reddit16:14
LibreSpongeimgur? http://imgur.com/3OQEhwn16:16
Levan_QUESTION: When will we get close to android performance? right now ubuntu touch is SLOOOOOOW and feasts on batteries, I almost broke my nexus while wating for contact app to open. I'm not disrespecting anyone but i just saying what my expiriance.16:19
tsimonq2QUESTION: What's the status of the wiki? (wiki.ubuntu.com, help.ubuntu.com/community, etc.)16:19
BjoernQUESTION: I want to ask about the Bluetooth bug. Ubuntu Touch has pretty much problems to connect to car audio systems [speakerphone feature]. This is a security feature and I guess, this important bug is not right in the focus. Thanks a lot...16:19
LibreSpongeQUESTION: As a DokuWiki member is wiki.ubuntu.com changing to DokuWiki any time soon as discussed on the Community Mailing List ? Or are we stuck with MoinMoin (for over a decade)?16:19
LibreSpongeThe Ubuntu Tablet will be on Pre-Order On Monday. https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/4bi0k6/ubuntu_tablet_will_be_available_to_preorder_on/16:21
tsimonq2QUESTION: What's the status of the Ubuntu Online Tour, where can I find the code, and have you ever used it or recommended it to anyone? ( http://tour.ubuntu.com/en/ for reference)16:22
LibreSpongeI recommend it all the time.16:23
LibreSpongeNeeds workn on tour.ubuntu.com16:23
popeyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu-online-tour16:23
LibreSpongepopey, cheers.16:24
tsimonq2thank you popey :)16:24
tsimonq2QUESTION: When's the next Ubuntu-related conference? Do you know of one?16:25
LibreSpongemhall119: I asked this wiki question aswell.16:25
LibreSpongetsimonq2: ubucon.org16:25
LibreSpongeQUESTION: Can I do an audio only Youtube event for the UDS, or do I have to 'reveal' myself ?16:26
LibreSponge**UOS16:26
tsimonq2QUESTION: What's the *Ubuntu* Community Team and what's it's significance in the Ubuntu community? Does it have anything to do with the *Canonical* Community Team?16:27
LibreSpongeQUESTION: What is davidcalle's twitter, IRC, and G+ handles ??16:27
sebsebseba bit late for this, but hi16:27
LibreSpongehi16:27
LibreSpongeget yur question in?16:27
sebsebsebQUESTION: How long have these been going on for?16:28
tsimonq2mhall119: popey linked me, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-online-tour16:28
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LibreSpongefeed is very jittery for me.16:29
sebsebsebQUESTION: When is the BQ tablet actually likely to go on proper sale soon I Would expect, and same for the new Meizu phone when is that likely?16:30
tsimonq2QUESTION: What are you excited for in the next, say, year in the Ubuntu community?16:30
LibreSpongeQUESTION: What about Multiboot on the wiki.ubuntu.com ?16:30
sebsebsebQUESTION: ZFS in Ubuntu 16.04 that has potential liscening issues it seems, why does Canonical think it's safe to provide it16:31
ChloeWolfieGirlHUD?16:32
LibreSpongeQUESTION: Whats happening with the HUD ?16:32
LibreSpongeOh , you beat me to it.16:32
ChloeWolfieGirlLibreSponge Hehe :316:32
Levan_QUESTION: i love ubuntu been using it since 8.04 but how can i **advocate ubuntu touch** ? I was showing off my ubuntu touch when my friends pointed out that it performed as good as a 4 Dollar indian android phone, he was correct so unless ubuntu gets a huge performance boosts I don't think it will succeed.16:32
tsimonq2QUESTION: Is it worth it to bring ZFS to Ubuntu, or do you think the licensing issues and porting and such just doesn't make it worth it? Would you use ZFS if this *does* go through?16:33
ChloeWolfieGirlQuestion, any update about the messanger that will allow plugins for things like Jabber, and in future time if whatsapp accepts it whatsapp etc?16:33
sebsebsebQUESTION: Do you think that Ubuntu 16.10 will actually have Unity 8 and Mir by default?16:34
LibreSpongeQUESTION: AS far as translations, how do I contribute when my language is the main primary language that Ubuntu is coded in ? Should I find advice on which languages to submit to ? The translation-deadline is closing. Please announce this.16:34
LibreSpongeChloeWolfieGirl: I'm doing viral now :)       http://imgur.com/3OQEhwn16:35
tsimonq2QUESTION: What's SABDFL up to these days?16:35
Levan_QUESTION: have you heard about ubuntuBSD? what you think16:35
tsimonq2^^^^16:35
sebsebsebtsimonq2: meeting me :d brifly that happended a few weeks ago16:35
LibreSpongesebsebseb: Where did you meet SABDFL ?16:35
sebsebsebLibreSponge: Brussels16:36
LibreSpongeoh no trump is here.16:36
sebsebsebLibreSponge: big open source event16:36
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tsimonq2QUESTION: We keep talking about the future, but what are you excited for in the Xenial release? Wily versus Xenial? Trusty versus Xenial? Precise (even) versus Xenial? For those who don't know, what's the status of Xenial and when will it be released?16:36
Guest14822lol16:36
sebsebsebQUESTION: For michael why did you give up making your own dUbuntu based disdtro Qimo, and what wasa that similar project you were doing instead, I did read a blog post before, but wazsn't so clear16:37
LibreSpongeQUESTION: What needs crowdfunding in Ubuntu at the moment, if anything ?16:38
sebsebsebLibreSponge: a screen that can connect tablets phones etc to, tehre is something trying to be crowd funded :d16:38
sebsebsebLibreSponge: turns them into a lap top16:38
popeyI'd like to see app developer supported to port apps, or make new apps, via crowdfunding16:38
sebsebsebLibreSponge: not an offical Ubuntu/Canonicalt hing16:38
trump_Hey16:38
popeyAlso, people porting16:39
LarreaMikelsebsebseb: It is hard to confirm, but according to this, maybe next monday we can pre-order de BQ tablet. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-tablet-m10-goes-sale-monday16:39
tsimonq2QUESTION: I'm too scared to flash my Note 2, where can I find an Ubuntu Phone emulator?16:39
popeycrowdfund newer nexus or sony devices to porters16:39
sebsebsebLarreaMikel: oh he's done a new post nice, not seen that one yet16:39
ChloeWolfieGirlQuestion: What devices on ubports are you excited to see ubuntu on? :)16:39
popeyChloeWolfieGirl: OPX!16:39
sebsebsebLarreaMikel: I have to still wait a bit longer though, since don't have the spare cash at the moment16:39
ChloeWolfieGirlpopey +1 x316:40
Levan_learn an new language :D16:41
tsimonq2^16:41
trump_lol16:41
LibreSpongeQUESTION: What are the environmental commitment/s made by Canonical as far as the 2016 Paris UN Agreement ? #FriendsOfTheEarth16:41
sebsebsebtsimonq2: I saw that Windows 3.1 and loads of  old prgrams can now be run online on archieve.org  yep memory lane for those of us old enough, however to go with tsimonq2 question maybe something like that could be done for Ubuntu touch a online demo16:41
_fabian_QUESTION: Will the experience of the unity8 session in 16.04 with a touch screen different from the tablet experience?16:41
sebsebsebwhoops that was meant to be QUESTION above16:41
sebsebsebhopefuly they get that one anyway16:42
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: When will I have an Ubuntu Phone that can play my steam games on? ;P16:42
popeyIntel phones!16:42
tsimonq2QUESTION: How do I get snappy on the desktop?16:43
sebsebsebQUESTION: Does someone play guitar or something like that at the end of these new Q and A sessions heh, like the old Jono one's heh ?16:43
LibreSpongeQUESTION: What text manager do you prefer ? Sublime etc ?16:44
tsimonq2^16:44
Levan_QUESTION: is Ayatana Project still alive ?16:44
LibreSpongesebsebseb: There pretty non-Jono-Area here.16:44
sebsebsebLevan_: that's a good one, I guess the design has been pretty much stand still, but the backgrounds change slightly16:44
LibreSponge**They're16:44
Levan_sebsebseb that sux so much, it was a very interesting initiative16:46
Levan_sebsebseb where you contributing there ?16:46
sebsebsebLevan_: contributing where?16:47
LibreSpongeQUESTION: Whyere do I get ~ubuntu Cola ?16:47
sebsebsebLibreSponge: oh Ayatana nope16:47
ChloeWolfieGirlQuestion, If no one plays guitar, can Mhall and Popey learn how to play guitar?16:47
sebsebsebLevan_: I am not in the design team16:47
LibreSponge+116:47
LibreSponge#Harmonika16:48
tsimonq2^ lol16:48
popeyChloeWolfieGirl: I'd rather learn Chinese16:48
LibreSpongespoil-sport.16:48
sebsebsebQUESTION: Jono always took non tech/Ubuntu questions to, so any coments about todays Brusesls news then?16:48
popeyugh16:49
ChloeWolfieGirlpopey in that case, Michael can play guitar while you sing chinese at the end of these Q&A's :'D16:49
tsimonq2^ lol16:49
popeyYou don't want to hear me sing.16:49
LibreSpongeI do, actually.16:49
* LibreSponge pumps popey up by bicycle pump.16:49
tsimonq2popey: no, then we would have to blame you *AHEM* for breaking headphones XD16:49
tsimonq2http://blamepopey.com/16:50
LibreSpongethats an old site that is not-pertinent, these days.16:50
tsimonq2just putting that out there XD16:50
popeyheadphones, laptops, glass, windows...16:50
tsimonq2^16:50
popey  git config --global user.email "alan@popey.com"16:50
popey  git config --global user.name "Alan Pope"16:50
popeyoops16:51
sebsebsebQUESTION: How come these have changed to a earlier time, or waws that just to fit in beter with the differnet time zones of the people doing it?16:51
popey 😃16:51
popeyit's 4pm uk time as it always was16:52
popeyit may move soon though16:52
sebsebsebpopey: I was thinking of the jono one that was 716:52
LibreSpongeQUESTION: Whats your view of Edubuntu & how do keep it alive /16:53
LibreSponge^?16:53
popeyjono hasn't worked for us for 2 years!16:53
sebsebsebpopey: indeed16:53
sebsebsebpopey: I haven't been to something like this for ages to16:53
Levan_QUESTION: system clean install or upgrade ?? ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 ??16:53
* LibreSponge notices popey's glee.16:53
popeysebsebseb: we still do them16:53
tsimonq2Levan_: they should both work fun :)16:53
popeynot glee16:53
tsimonq2*fine16:53
sebsebsebjust happended to of seen it there today so16:54
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: When can we see Michael playing guitar while Popey sings in Chinese?16:55
LibreSpongeQUESTION: As the audience is VERY pro-Jono, and the panel is ambigious about him joining another Q&A, Could we have a shout out for the github community cast, PLEASE. https://soundcloud.com/githubcommunitycast/episode116:56
LibreSpongeSo basically Canonical has no clue about the environment, Great !16:56
LibreSpongeQUESTION: AS youtube hangouts last ten hours Why does Canonical persist in these rediculous 1 hour deadline rules ?16:58
popeyLibreSponge: What so confrontational?16:58
LibreSpongeI want more16:58
popeyMaybe tone it down a touch?16:59
LibreSpongeok, but I give as much direction as i get ambiguity.16:59
tsimonq2I agree with LibreSponge, in a calmer manner...*AHEM* GIVE US MORE! :D *tones it down a notch* :)16:59
tsimonq2popey: we should get the meetingbot in here so we have specific IRc logs from this Q&A :)17:00
tsimonq2*IRC17:00
sebsebsebtsimonq2: oh it's not in here?17:01
tsimonq2nope17:01
sebsebsebused to be I think17:01
tsimonq2well it should be here17:01
trump_Cya later.17:01
popeyhttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/03/22/%23ubuntu-on-air.html17:01
popeythe channel is logged17:01
tsimonq2I pinged Alan because he is on the Canonical Community Team :)17:01
davidcalleThanks everyone, that was fun :)17:01
LibreSpongewe need a notepad instance, whatever it is called.17:01
sebsebsebChloeWolfieGirl: I Think I remember your nick from before17:02
tsimonq2popey: ik, but isn't there more than just this on the Ubuntu On Air IRC channel?17:02
LibreSpongeintspad ?17:02
LibreSponge**instapad ?17:02
popeytsimonq2: what's the goal?17:02
tsimonq2popey: to be able to link this meeting to people, the IRC part of it, wthouth vaing to use timestamps in the logs17:03
ChloeWolfieGirlsebsebseb I'm not the most uncommon person to apear at these Q&A's :P17:03
tsimonq2*without having17:03
LibreSpongeI tried to do reddit and discourse ubuntu posts that were very good. But Canonical would pay be $24v a year for doing it (It was over 150 hours of work thou).17:03
sebsebsebChloeWolfieGirl: heh yeah but I didn['t really jnow when this one was17:04
sebsebsebChloeWolfieGirl: so I haven't really been to one of these since when Jono used to do it17:04
LibreSpongeall the titles were timestamped to youtube.17:04
popeytsimonq2: given the channel is already logged... seems overkill to have two logbots17:04
ChloeWolfieGirlsebsebseb: I was there for a few of Jono's I remember his april fools one the most17:04
sebsebseboh what happended in that one?17:05
LibreSpongepopey, You have to use what you've got, remember ?17:05
tsimonq2popey: but the meetingbot isn't a logbot? the purpose would be to have meeting-specific logs...17:05
sebsebsebChloeWolfieGirl: I remmber fooling him once or twice myself or apparnatly heh17:05
sebsebsebChloeWolfieGirl: who's behind you!17:05
LibreSpongeits ending.17:05
popey#startmeeting foo17:06
trump_So these chats are only an hour?17:06
LibreSponge& there are looads of unanswerables.17:06
sebsebsebyeah, but next time etc can do other questions17:06
sebsebsebgot to come back :d17:06
LibreSpongetrump_ yes give or take17:06
popeytsimonq2: *shrug* could request it if you want17:06
tsimonq2popey: who should I ask? :)17:06
popeytsimonq2: and then link to them, but as I said, it's overkill given we already have it logged17:07
* LibreSponge recals the past 164 hours since the last one :(17:07
popeymeeting bot is for irc meetings17:07
popeythis isn't an irc meeting17:07
LibreSpongepopey, what about a metapad instance ?17:07
LibreSpongethat would do,.17:07
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popeywe already have etherpad for taking notes17:07
LibreSpongeetherpad for us ?17:08
tsimonq2popey: I get your point, if Ubuntu On Air was used way more, my point would be good :)17:08
popeypeople could make pad.ubuntu.com/QA-YYYY-MM-DD or something17:08
popeybut what's the goal?17:08
tsimonq2to collect IRC logs that correlate to the specific session, popey17:08
LibreSpongeI shall do it for the next-time show. thanks.17:08
popeyLibreSponge: for what purpose?17:08
LibreSpongepopey, brainstorming.17:08
popeyok17:08
LibreSpongeIt's important to engage in feedback.17:09
LibreSponge& this is our only avenue, for a_lot of people.17:09
tsimonq2popey: also, the hosts should answer the rest of the questions over IRC afterwards :)17:09
sebsebsebwho is LibreSponge anyway?17:09
* LibreSponge looks at the bottleneck.17:10
sebsebsebLibreSponge: are you on one of the teams?17:10
LibreSpongeLibreSponge is notKeiserSozya17:10
sebsebsebor someting17:10
LibreSpongeI'm a user with a piece of paper to show I contribute to canonical/ubuntu.17:10
tsimonq2LibreSponge: link to wiki page? :)17:11
sebsebsebheh h what kind of paper ?17:11
tsimonq2sebsebseb: probably Ubuntu Member cet17:11
tsimonq2*cert17:11
LibreSpongeyou get a certificate.17:11
LibreSpongecorrect.17:11
sebsebsebyou can get a IRC clocak if you bdcome Ubuntucommunity meember to, but I didn't see one for you17:11
tsimonq2I haven't gotten mine yet, although I got my membership on February 4th17:11
LibreSpongeI'm on my other pc.17:12
popeytsimonq2: you have to ask for it17:12
popeyjoin #ubuntu-irc and ask17:12
LibreSpongewill do.17:12
sebsebsebtsimonq2: what waws your big contribution to become a member?17:12
tsimonq2popey: well, your point is valid, just, we don't have much more sessions here17:12
* LibreSponge wanders off for a cigar Julietta.17:12
tsimonq2sebsebseb: many17:12
* sebsebseb always disliked that about Ubuntu, how had to do some massive known seen contribution, to even be seen as being in the community properly17:13
tsimonq2sebsebseb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/tsimonq217:13
sebsebsebwhere as with certain other distros you use it and your part of the community, you contribute your in the community a bit more so to17:13
LibreSpongeBe sure to check out Jono here: https://soundcloud.com/githubcommunitycast/episode117:13
sebsebsebyou go to an event and meetp eople, you start getting knwon etc17:13
sebsebsebLibreSponge: oh his new pod cast?17:13
LibreSpongedo you mind , I'm trying to congress a cigar.17:14
tsimonq2well, exiting this channel, adios o/17:18
trump_cya17:27
popeysebsebseb: not true.17:30
popeysebsebseb: you don't have to be a member to be a part of the community, far from it17:30
popeywe have way more non-members than members in the community17:30
trump_What you talking about?17:32
popey!membership17:33
popeyoh, no bot :)17:33
trump_lol17:33
popeyhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership17:33
popey^ that17:33
trump_What about it?17:34
trump_I'll have to agree with popey about being a part of the community.17:38
trump_Running Ubuntu is your cert.17:40
gr33nbitsgot home late and missed the live17:40
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