| sarnold | "formerly known as Likewise Open" | 00:00 |
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| sarnold | hah, the download page doesn't load for me with noscript and privacybadger .. not sure which one is to blame, but it sure looks like it needs a contact form filled out first. that's not a good sign. | 00:01 |
| bekks | Doesnt exactly sound like something I want to use :) | 00:05 |
| sarnold | the first page sounded good then the second page took it all away again :) hehe | 00:05 |
| Pinkamena_D | here it is easier download: http://download1.beyondtrust.com/Technical-Support/Downloads/PowerBroker-Identity-Services-Open-Edition/?Pass=True | 00:10 |
| sarnold | heh, windows people do things differently; there's a thosand links to binary downloads but not a single singature to be found anywhere; and they do appear to have a source link, but they put the non-hyperlinked-text in grey on grey at the very bottom of the page. | 00:18 |
| samy1028 | sarnold: you mean we're not supposed to arbitrarily click on a program without checking it out first? :) | 00:29 |
| sarnold | samy1028: honestly i find the _executing_ of programs so boring -- all the real fun is in reading the source :) | 00:29 |
| samy1028 | It's only fun and games until some non-technical appointed domain admin installs a crypto-locker on the network. :) | 00:34 |
| samy1028 | but, yes, reading source can be fun. Though sometimes you find new things for thedailywtf and such. | 00:34 |
| sarnold | .. and then you have fun new stories about moving all your patients to another hospital while you clean up the mess :) | 00:35 |
| sarnold | hehe | 00:35 |
| devster31 | what's my best option, besides editing the hosts file, to make a domain name refer to a LAN IP instead of the public IP? | 01:26 |
| sarnold | you could investigate using dns split horizon, I think it's supposed to handle this | 01:30 |
| sarnold | or have two dns servers, one outisde the network for everyone else and one inside the network for local queries | 01:30 |
| sarnold | or add the external IP directly to the machine and add corresponding routes on all the machines that want to query it (that's more of a smartass solution than a good solution, but it's a solution...) | 01:30 |
| devster31 | first or second one seem fine, don't know much about dns though, need to read documentations | 01:37 |
| devster31 | thanks | 01:37 |
| hallyn | pmatulis: hey, just fyi, lxd docs somewhat taking shape at https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+git/lxdserverguide . I'll flesh out the rest tomorow (barring serious bugs elsewhere), | 08:50 |
| hallyn | pmatulis: am out the rest of the week, will then convert to xml (assuming that's what we still want at ths point, which i think is a safe bet) | 08:50 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:12 |
| pmatulis | hallyn: looks great | 12:21 |
| patdk-wk | hmm, there has to be something wrong with apparmor on 16.04 :( | 12:30 |
| patdk-wk | wrong profile is applied, and odd thing blocked that is allowed | 12:31 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: when you come online, can you followup with patdk-wk? | 12:33 |
| patdk-wk | it's either 16.04, or lxc, I don't get it :( been looking at it for days | 12:34 |
| jdstrand | patdk-wk: oh, days? tyhicks: nm | 12:34 |
| patdk-wk | well, just myself | 12:34 |
| patdk-wk | I thought it was just *me* | 12:34 |
| patdk-wk | but I have pretty much ruled out me doing something stupid | 12:35 |
| jdstrand | patdk-wk: yesterday there was a new kernel with a big apparmor change | 12:35 |
| patdk-wk | I am not running that yet | 12:35 |
| patdk-wk | guess I should test it? | 12:35 |
| jdstrand | patdk-wk: so I was worried that was it, but if you have the old kernel, then it of course isn't :) | 12:35 |
| jdstrand | patdk-wk: wouldn't hurt :) | 12:35 |
| patdk-wk | 4.4.0-13-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 11 19:31:18 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 12:35 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: I thought patdk-wk saw something in the new kernel, but he is running the old kernel | 12:35 |
| jdstrand | patdk-wk: note, there are a lot of fixes in that kernel, so it might actually have fixed it. I don't have the details at hand | 12:36 |
| patdk-wk | no problem, I don't mind testing :) | 12:36 |
| patdk-wk | I just hate digging myself a hole I can't find a way out | 12:36 |
| patdk-wk | a profile for a binary, that doesn't exist on that system, gets applied, somehow :) | 12:37 |
| patdk-wk | but since it's almost identical to the profile that should be applied, it doesn't cause any real harm, but well, that is just my usecase, and probably not a good thing | 12:38 |
| patdk-wk | jdstrand, I think the issue has gone away | 14:09 |
| patdk-wk | I'll keep watching it though | 14:09 |
| patdk-wk | :( | 14:17 |
| patdk-wk | qla24xx driver is causing panics on boot on the newer kernel :( | 14:18 |
| patdk-wk | qla2xxx that is | 14:18 |
| patdk-wk | 4.4.0-15 | 14:18 |
| patdk-wk | http://maneshi.com/gallery/v/Users2/sysadm/Screenshot+from+2016-03-22+10_20_21.png.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 | 14:21 |
| patdk-wk | yep, blacklist=qla2xxx got it booted almost :( | 14:25 |
| LaserAllan | <LaserAllan> hey there I am pretty sure this might be the best place to askbut I have had Fail2ban running on a Ubuntu server working very good for 5-6months straight and today i found out that either it is not bannig as it should or something else is up becuase I am not getting the emials that I should from it, acording to the mail logs they are beeing sent but not received. I am using GMAIL but I haven't had any issues at all for 5-6 months. | 15:05 |
| ikonia | LaserAllan: so look at the bounce logs | 15:09 |
| ikonia | try using a trusted relay | 15:09 |
| ikonia | look at the iptables rules, are the rules being added | 15:09 |
| ikonia | work it through | 15:09 |
| LaserAllan | I'll have a look and return here. | 15:09 |
| patdk-wk | heh, the mail log files will tell you exactly what happened | 15:11 |
| ikonia | you'll probably find you're getting bounces from google because you're sending from a non-trusted/blacklisted IP | 15:12 |
| LaserAllan | But why had it worked for like 6 months and suddenly stopped | 15:17 |
| LaserAllan | I'll get back once I've looked ;) | 15:17 |
| ikonia | blacklisted ? | 15:22 |
| ikonia | relay host dead ? | 15:22 |
| ikonia | relay host black listed ? | 15:22 |
| ikonia | change in googles policy | 15:22 |
| teward | server team still meeting today? | 15:50 |
| matsubara | I believe so, in 10 min | 15:50 |
| teward | cool | 15:50 |
| teward | matsubara: i was going to ping you too to make sure you were around, given the QA item i brought up yesterday heh | 15:50 |
| matsubara | teward, I just confirmed the bug we spoke about yesterday | 15:51 |
| teward | matsubara: cool, so it's definitely an issue then? | 15:51 |
| matsubara | teward, and it seems someone also reported a similar issue in the desktop | 15:51 |
| teward | ah, so it's a BIG issue, then | 15:51 |
| matsubara | teward, I never get a keyboard layout screen, no matter what I choose | 15:51 |
| teward | matsubara: is there a bug for the desktop observation as well/ | 15:56 |
| teward | out of curiosity | 15:56 |
| matsubara | teward, OP says it's a similar issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1549529 but not exactly the same | 15:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1549529 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "The keyboard is still installed as US-English even if another language is selected during the installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:57 |
| teward | interesting. thanks! | 15:58 |
| teward | i'll test Lubuntu then and see if I can replicate there, but it sounds like it's global | 15:58 |
| jgrimm | IRC meeting happening now | 16:01 |
| m1dnight_ | Hey guys. I have seem to deleted my gpg encrypted file with my passwords for my backup server. Is there any way I can get root access now and change all the passes? | 16:10 |
| m1dnight_ | Only thing I have left are the ssh keys to ssh into the machine and the gpg keys to decrypted the backups. | 16:10 |
| m1dnight_ | I guess im dead in the water, right? | 16:10 |
| m1dnight_ | Oh, recovery mode will fix it so it seems. | 16:12 |
| m1dnight_ | Carry on. | 16:12 |
| LaserAllan | ikonia: That might be the case but what makes this even mroe confusing is that my friend who is using the same service doesn't have the problem I am having | 16:35 |
| LaserAllan | ikonia: I don't have a huge amount of experience with Ubuntu Server yet but I am slowly getting there. | 16:35 |
| LaserAllan | The logs doesn't seem to show more than that it is sending emails | 16:45 |
| LaserAllan | and it also seems to empty the qeue but I am not sure if there is anything specific i am going to look for | 16:45 |
| teward | jgrimm: ping | 16:48 |
| jgrimm | teward, hi there | 16:49 |
| teward | jgrimm: grab a copy of your irc scrollback if possible, #ubuntu-irc was able to remove the meeting state in #ubuntu-meeting, but the fear is the meeting logs were torpedoed | 16:49 |
| teward | for the server team meeting | 16:49 |
| teward | we may wish to include that somewhere for the meeting logs/notes | 16:50 |
| teward | im' going to pull a copy myself too | 16:50 |
| jgrimm | teward, indeed | 16:50 |
| jgrimm | i'm hoping there is an auto #endmeeting that kicks in | 16:50 |
| teward | jgrimm: i don't think there is, but I know that I poked and asked if they could force-end because the chair went away | 16:51 |
| matsubara | teward, I updated the bug 1559507 with what I just found. Please take a look and see if it makes sense | 16:51 |
| ubottu | bug 1559507 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Keyboard selection is missed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1559507 | 16:51 |
| teward | there was such a force-command, jgrimm, but the fear is we lost the logs, so for minutes, etc. we should probably back up our own copies and make it available | 16:51 |
| teward | matsubara: looking | 16:51 |
| matsubara | I need to find someone that actually knows that stuff to confirm that hypothesis | 16:51 |
| jgrimm | teward, saved. thanks | 16:52 |
| teward | jgrimm: you're welcome | 16:53 |
| teward | matsubara: indeed, I'm not sure who to prod on that though, maybe the desktop team will have further insights? GIven that the issue is happening everywhere, I wonder if it's the same missing mechanisms... | 16:53 |
| teward | matsubara: odd though that this only very recently happened, because prior to the first observation by phillw it was apparently fine | 16:53 |
| teward | though I don't regularly test | 16:54 |
| matsubara | teward, I just asked on -devel | 16:54 |
| teward | ok | 16:54 |
| * teward tracks there | 16:54 | |
| matsubara | teward, yeah, maybe it was there for some time but it wasn't noticed. | 16:54 |
| matsubara | I'd say it's easy to miss if you always install with the regular US keyboard and don't care about setting up a different layout | 16:54 |
| teward | matsubara: possibly. I know that phill pings whenever any of the Server stuff needs attention, I think it's his way of 'triaging' things in such a way that it gets additional eyes before it's filed as an issue. | 16:55 |
| teward | and yeah, since I use regular US keyboard it's usually never an issue for me | 16:55 |
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| jjrabbit543 | anybody here use yum? | 18:03 |
| nacc | why would anyone use yum in ubuntu? :) | 18:04 |
| Pici | !yum | 18:04 |
| ubottu | Uh, don't you mean !apt ? | 18:04 |
| Pici | !botsnack | 18:05 |
| ubottu | Yum! Err, I mean, APT! | 18:05 |
| jjrabbit543 | lol | 18:05 |
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| Pici | jjrabbit543: so why do you need yum? | 18:05 |
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| jjrabbit543 | cause it's in the repos and was wondering if it's worth using? | 18:06 |
| jjrabbit543 | i guess i should stick with the package manger that comes with the OS though right? | 18:06 |
| Pici | I'm sure you can install it, but it isn't going to be useful. | 18:06 |
| jjrabbit543 | Pici: would it only show me packages for other distros? | 18:06 |
| jjrabbit543 | because that wouldn't be useful at all | 18:07 |
| jjrabbit543 | i was just interested in the usability of it | 18:07 |
| nacc | jjrabbit543: yum can only be used to install rpms, afaik. So I have no idea what it'd be used, except maybe for hosting mock or smilar on ubuntu | 18:08 |
| Pici | jjrabbit543: rpm is also in the repos, and while you can install packages with it, I wouldn't recommend it. | 18:08 |
| jjrabbit543 | Pici: ok good point | 18:10 |
| jjrabbit543 | just curious, thanks | 18:10 |
| jjrabbit543 | i'll stick with aptitude | 18:10 |
| Pici | good ;) | 18:10 |
| jjrabbit543 | anybody know how i can get to the Search menu at the top of aptitude? | 18:34 |
| tarpman | jjrabbit543: ctrl-T | 18:34 |
| tarpman | jjrabbit543: it says "C-T: Menu" right there in the top left | 18:34 |
| jjrabbit543 | tarpman: so it does. Thanks! | 18:36 |
| jjrabbit543 | wow you can lose on the first move in the minesweeper game | 18:37 |
| jjrabbit543 | ubuntu minesweeper is merciless | 18:38 |
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| sarnold | the only winning move is not to play the game | 18:39 |
| jjrabbit543 | anybody know why midnight commander isn't listed in aptitude? | 18:46 |
| Pici | !info mc | 18:46 |
| ubottu | mc (source: mc): Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:4.8.13-3 (wily), package size 501 kB, installed size 1586 kB | 18:46 |
| sarnold | dunno, my tools show that it should be in everything frmo precise to xenial | 18:46 |
| sarnold | it is in universe though, if you've only got main enabled, it won't show up | 18:47 |
| nacc | jjrabbit543: and if you didn't know how to find it via the name, you could do `apt-cache search ' midnight commander'` | 18:47 |
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| jjrabbit543 | what is component universe? | 18:48 |
| jjrabbit543 | is that a category in aptitude? | 18:48 |
| nacc | jjrabbit543: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories | 18:49 |
| sarnold | jjrabbit543: the archive is split into main and universe; packages in universe are supported only via community members, packages in main are supported by canonical and the community | 18:49 |
| jjrabbit543 | does anybody here user file managers or are they a waste of time | 18:58 |
| jjrabbit543 | does ubuntu come with one? | 18:58 |
| sarnold | if you mean "explorer.exe workalike" then yeah ubuntu has a bunch | 18:59 |
| sarnold | mc of course is a clone of nc which used to be popular in windows land 25 years ago or something | 19:00 |
| jjrabbit543 | not explorer.exe workalike | 19:00 |
| jjrabbit543 | midnight commander workalike | 19:00 |
| jjrabbit543 | for ubuntu server | 19:00 |
| Seveas | !info mc | 19:07 |
| ubottu | mc (source: mc): Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:4.8.13-3 (wily), package size 501 kB, installed size 1586 kB | 19:07 |
| nacc | jjrabbit543: why would you need a mc workalike if you have mc? | 19:08 |
| jjrabbit543 | nacc: because it's in the universe component repository and which apparently is not a default package list | 19:08 |
| jjrabbit543 | i prefer to use native tools that "come with" the OS | 19:08 |
| nacc | jjrabbit543: did you read the above link about the repositories? | 19:09 |
| jjrabbit543 | nacc: yes, it says main and restricted are the defaults | 19:09 |
| nacc | jjrabbit543: "comes with" and "defaults" are different things, IMO | 19:09 |
| nacc | jjrabbit543: universe is part of Ubuntu, too | 19:10 |
| nacc | jjrabbit543: it's just a matter of who supports what | 19:10 |
| jjrabbit543 | then how come i can't find packages that are in the universe component | 19:10 |
| jjrabbit543 | component universe | 19:11 |
| jjrabbit543 | * | 19:11 |
| nacc | jjrabbit543: you have to enable the component, in /etc/apt/sources.list | 19:11 |
| jjrabbit543 | nacc: I ran this command instead: "sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) universe"" | 19:11 |
| jjrabbit543 | found it here http://askubuntu.com/questions/148638/how-do-i-enable-the-universe-repository | 19:12 |
| jjrabbit543 | and still isn't working. did I mess something up by doing that | 19:12 |
| jjrabbit543 | ? | 19:12 |
| sarnold | apt-get update && apt-cache show mc | 19:12 |
| nacc | also, i think you can just run `add-apt-repository universe` ? | 19:13 |
| patdk-wk | so, what instructions do I use to properly file a bug report on 4.4.0-15 kernel module (qla2xxx) panic on boot? :) | 19:21 |
| patdk-wk | it was working upto 4.3.0-5 that I know, I didn't test any kernels inbetween | 19:22 |
| sarnold | TJ-: try redirecting stdin on the -first- ncat from /dev/null or similar: ncat -m 1 -6kl 10006 < /dev/null | ncat -kl 10007 | 19:23 |
| TJ- | sarnold: it looks like #1 is stopped because #2 is stopped. I'm suspecting its a buffer-full issue because there are no clients connected to empty the pipe | 19:24 |
| TJ- | sarnold: I'm running testing right now to try to catch it, but it can take up to 12 hours! | 19:24 |
| sarnold | TJ-: hmmm. I'd expect its write()s to block in that case.. | 19:24 |
| sarnold | patdk-wk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug :) and be prepared for the kernel team demotivational bot to ask a pile of questions.. | 19:25 |
| patdk-wk | I know, and panic on boot during initrd before filesystems are mounted, is kindof annoying as hell to report :) | 19:25 |
| TJ- | sarnold: well, on the broadcaster node that sends to the proxy it can send almost all the kernel's "make bindeb-pkg" build messages before stalling | 19:26 |
| sarnold | TJ-: heh can you feed it with /dev/zero to test something faster? :) | 19:27 |
| jjrabbit543 | turns out running apt-get is 100 times easier than dicking around with aptitude | 19:28 |
| TJ- | sarnold: I was going to pipe it via 'pv' to see how large the buffer is | 19:28 |
| sarnold | jjrabbit543: indeed, I never understood the appeal of aptitutude | 19:28 |
| sarnold | TJ-: you've got a few buffers in play simultaneously which is going to be confusing as sin -- the tcp recv buffer on the first one, the unix pipe buffer between the two, and the tcp send buffer on the second one | 19:29 |
| TJ- | sarnold: indeed ... good, ain't it? :d | 19:29 |
| patdk-wk | aptitude is annoying :) | 19:30 |
| TJ- | sarnold: 'ncat ... | pv ncat ...' tells me the buffer is 43.2Kb | 19:42 |
| designbybeck | If I'm trying to learn server stuff, and I'm going through a tutorial, shouldn't this command work? : cat /etc/hosts /tmp/appendit | 19:46 |
| designbybeck | Shouldn't that take the contents of hosts and put a copy in appendit? | 19:47 |
| TJ- | designbybeck: you're writing both files to stdout | 19:47 |
| patdk-wk | no | 19:47 |
| designbybeck | HMmm TJ- | 19:47 |
| nacc | designbybeck: you're missing redirection (>) operator | 19:47 |
| nacc | designbybeck: also, why would you use cat, when you have cp ? | 19:47 |
| TJ- | designbybeck: cat /etc/hosts >>/tmp/appendit | 19:47 |
| patdk-wk | well depends | 19:47 |
| patdk-wk | he might be missing >> | 19:47 |
| TJ- | designbybeck: use >> if you want to 'append' to an existing file | 19:47 |
| nacc | patdk-wk: true, depends | 19:47 |
| designbybeck | so just >> would do it TJ- | 19:47 |
| patdk-wk | or > to basically copy/overwrite | 19:48 |
| designbybeck | ah ok, I've never ran across that, but I'll try that out | 19:48 |
| TJ- | designbybeck: yes, see "man bash" REDIRECTION section for the details | 19:48 |
| designbybeck | thank you TJ- and nacc | 19:48 |
| designbybeck | wow TJ- that's a heck of a man page! | 19:50 |
| designbybeck | but yes: cat this >> that worked | 19:51 |
| jjrabbit543 | anybody know the shortcut to close a linux screen window? | 19:56 |
| jjrabbit543 | i accidently created a bunch and need to close them | 19:57 |
| TJ- | designbybeck: if you ever use sudo it won't though, because the >> will bind to the *output* of sudo (which is in the current user's context) not the command being called. In that case you either do "sudo sh -c "cat /etc/hosts >> /tmp/appendit" OR "cat /etc/hosts | sudo tee -a /tmp/appendit" (if you can stand seeing the output. Another alternative is "cat /etc/hosts | sudo dd of=/tmp/appendit | 19:57 |
| TJ- | oflags=append" | 19:57 |
| sarnold | jjrabbit543: ^D on a line all by itself will close bash | 19:57 |
| sarnold | jjrabbit543: no idea if your terminal emulator you're using will then close or not.. but most do. | 19:57 |
| sarnold | jjrabbit543: ^D tells teh terminal emulator to send the end-of-file signal, so it's also used to end HERE documents and similar things | 19:58 |
| jjrabbit543 | im confused | 20:00 |
| ChibaPet | sarnold: There may also be a bug wherein an overridden value is honored but the default is printed to screen anyway. I'm seeing messages talking about a 1:30 timeout that sure looks like it completes after the 15 seconds I specify. | 20:00 |
| jjrabbit543 | you can have several windows open inside a single screen session and on top of that you can have multiple screen sessions running as well? | 20:00 |
| sarnold | ChibaPet: ugh | 20:00 |
| ChibaPet | jjrabbit543: Sure, why not? You can nest screens readily. | 20:00 |
| sarnold | jjrabbit543: sure, nest as deep as you want.. | 20:01 |
| jjrabbit543 | dang | 20:01 |
| jjrabbit543 | #screenception | 20:01 |
| sarnold | jjrabbit543: multiple vim tabs in tmux in screen in tabbed terminals in multi-desktop X sessions.. | 20:01 |
| sarnold | .. managing multiple jobs in a job-control shell.. | 20:01 |
| ChibaPet | jjrabbit543: Just remember, control-a a command to send a command to a screen one level deep. Control-a a a command to go two levels deep. Etc. | 20:01 |
| ChibaPet | Also, remember to just open multiple windows if that's all you need. | 20:02 |
| jjrabbit543 | is there a shortcut to kill one of the windows inside a screen session? | 20:02 |
| jjrabbit543 | that's what i am trying to do | 20:02 |
| ChibaPet | control-a \ | 20:02 |
| ChibaPet | sorry, that's all windows | 20:02 |
| ChibaPet | control-a k | 20:02 |
| sarnold | heh we'll see if he saw the "sorry" in time.. :) | 20:02 |
| jjrabbit543 | ChibaPet: ty!! | 20:02 |
| ChibaPet | Mm, unfortunate timing on my part. | 20:02 |
| ChibaPet | jjrabbit543: screen is amazing stuff. | 20:03 |
| jjrabbit543 | sarnold: i did ;) | 20:03 |
| sarnold | pfew :) | 20:03 |
| sarnold | hehe | 20:03 |
| ChibaPet | sarnold: It prompts by default, so he'd have seen the fishy query before nuking everything. | 20:03 |
| sarnold | ChibaPet: ah, nice ;) I've never killed windows in screen directly before, I've always just terminated the shells.. | 20:03 |
| jjrabbit543 | hm lets see | 20:03 |
| jjrabbit543 | ya | 20:03 |
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| ddellav | coreycb barbican is ready for review: lp:~ddellav/ubuntu/+source/barbican | 21:14 |
| coreycb | ddellav, ok thanks, I might need to look in the morning | 21:14 |
| ddellav | coreycb ack | 21:15 |
| LaserAllan | Hey guys | 21:17 |
| LaserAllan | Anyone in here knows how SPF works? | 21:18 |
| ddellav | LaserAllan i know a bit, yea | 21:18 |
| Sling | LaserAllan: what is your actual question? | 21:18 |
| ddellav | higher spf = more time the sunscreen lasts | 21:18 |
| ddellav | :P | 21:18 |
| ChibaPet | LaserAllan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework | 21:19 |
| bekks | Or Shortest Path First. | 21:19 |
| LaserAllan | Sling: ddellav I currently have issues with my mailing service, I have configured fail2ban and Xymon to send emails when needed but for some reason they are sent according to the logs but they aren't reaching my gmail | 21:19 |
| LaserAllan | Could it be that it has been blacklisted? becuase the "domain" that is used to send the emials doesnt really exists | 21:20 |
| LaserAllan | "exist | 21:20 |
| LaserAllan | I am just wondering if I might have to setup SPF if i want Google to not blacklist my IP? | 21:20 |
| ChibaPet | LaserAllan: Check your mail logs to see if they're being delivered. Check your gmail spam to see if they're being misclassified. | 21:20 |
| Sling | LaserAllan: hard to say, can you deliver mails to a domain where you can better see what is actually happening? | 21:20 |
| ChibaPet | LaserAllan: Google can require complete correctness. Make sure your PTRs match, etc. | 21:20 |
| Sling | i have seen gmail accepting mails but still not pushing them to user mailboxes | 21:21 |
| ddellav | LaserAllan ok if its being sent from a non-existant domain it will likely get blocked. beyond spf google wants to see a legit domain with properly setup reverse dns. | 21:21 |
| Sling | and they aren't very open in what checks they do exactly | 21:21 |
| ddellav | if you find a mail in your spam box you can view the original to see the spf headers to see if it passed, failed, or softfaied | 21:21 |
| ddellav | *failed | 21:21 |
| Sling | I don't think he has spf at the moment | 21:21 |
| LaserAllan | Sling: Currently No i dont | 21:22 |
| LaserAllan | I will m,ake a apstebin of the logs and show you | 21:22 |
| ddellav | if you dont have a proper domain name setup with reverse dns it's likely guaranteed to get blocked from gmail | 21:22 |
| ddellav | regardless of spf | 21:22 |
| LaserAllan | ddellav: Nah i dont have that currently | 21:22 |
| LaserAllan | but it has worked flawlessly for nearly a year | 21:23 |
| ddellav | i would probably setup fail2ban and all those to use your gmail smtp settings to send mail to yourself | 21:23 |
| ddellav | thats a bit weird, sounds like blacklisted | 21:23 |
| ddellav | but hard to tell for sure | 21:23 |
| LaserAllan | ddellav: I am going to take a piss and get a beer and I'll get to this, I haven't used Linux for more than maybe 7-8 months so I am fairly new to it so excuse me if my knowledge isn't as vast as I'd wanted iot to be | 21:25 |
| LaserAllan | But yeah sending mails to myself could work but if it's possible to configure a reverse DNS since I do have a domain that wouldn't be bad :) | 21:25 |
| LaserAllan | I guess it's easier to filter the emails than | 21:25 |
| ddellav | just be sure to google first :) | 21:26 |
| LaserAllan | ddellav: I have very little experience when it comes to setup a reverse DNS but does that I mean I'll have to setup SFB or is this something else? | 21:27 |
| ddellav | im not sure what SFB is but reverse dns is something setup by the person that owns the ip address associated with your server | 21:27 |
| ddellav | your "ISP" | 21:27 |
| ddellav | so if someone does a reverse lookup on your ip, they'll see your domain | 21:28 |
| ddellav | i.e. dig -x ip.add.ress | 21:28 |
| LaserAllan | Hmm, well I have my domain at a hosting ocmpany here in scandinavia but the IP of the server which is gopig to send the emials is in the US | 21:28 |
| LaserAllan | not sure if that makes any difference but | 21:29 |
| ddellav | most hosting companies have control panels where you can set PTR records yourself, otherwise you'll have to contact them | 21:29 |
| ddellav | assuming you have a dedicated ip and not shared hosting | 21:29 |
| ChibaPet | LaserAllan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DNS_record_types#PTR | 21:29 |
| LaserAllan | ChibaPet: Thanks :) | 21:30 |
| LaserAllan | I have allot to learn but what better to do it with my owns tuff, not that much can break though:P | 21:30 |
| ddellav | it's always great to experiment and learn new stuff. I'm excited for you. | 21:30 |
| LaserAllan | I feel ashamed that it took me so amny eyars to really start using Linux | 21:31 |
| LaserAllan | for servers I think its extremely powerful, secure and lightweight | 21:31 |
| ddellav | every day is someones first day, nothing to be ashamed about | 21:31 |
| LaserAllan | ddellav: Some people jsut seem to be unfriendly/arrogant towards people who doesn't know as much as them :), but I am amazed what Linux can do, I am still learning the CLI step by step though. | 21:32 |
| LaserAllan | But but, I am not gonna clutter the chat with offtopic stuff, I'llg og et a beer and get back to the reverse DNS, hopefully I can sovle it together with a little help :) | 21:33 |
| ddellav | im sure you'll get it figured out. good luck :) | 21:33 |
| sarnold | hallyn: "zfs_poo_name" https://git.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+git/lxdserverguide/tree/lxd.md#n201 | 22:40 |
| hallyn | lol | 22:56 |
| hallyn | thx | 22:56 |
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