=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [04:20] note to self: ssh does NOT work when in flight mode and wifi is off [06:30] popey: are you on this early? if not ping me when your on :) === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [08:28] Good day all! [09:00] hi [09:00] i found ubuntu touch don't support farsi(persian) keyboard [09:00] how can i help them to add persian keyboard to ubuntu touch [09:00] i can develop in python, php , java languages [09:03] don't know molavy , you need to wait others, stay on channel. [09:03] mariogrip: ping :) [09:04] popey: hi, I setup a build server that will build ubp-5.1 on every git push so we can keep the source at good source at all time [09:05] building now, so I will fix the errors that popes up and fix them correcly [09:05] good shape* [09:05] oooh [09:06] hows portcraft going? [09:06] popey: I hopefully get done with v1 this week, need some more work, haven't started on the kernel bit yet [09:07] cool [09:07] guys, please anybody knows where I can find Apparmor git repo? [09:08] any idea? [09:08] in official wiki, url's not awailable [09:08] here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/AppArmorForPhabletKernels [09:08] popey: also, talked with mhall about docs, I was thinking is it a good idea to merge ubp and ubuntu docs (porting) so we can work on one insted of two seperate [09:09] ozzz: ping jdstrand when he's about [09:09] mariogrip: totally :) [09:09] :D [09:10] popey: could you do some testing of the source (build) later today? [09:10] mariogrip: sure thing! [09:11] Awesome! i'll ping u when im done with fixing all the blockers [09:11] popey, thnx [09:11] sweet! [09:13] popey: yesterday I finally get repos working, fetched all source, now preparing the kernel for sgh-i847 samsung [09:14] ozzz: that's going to be a challenge! [09:14] 512MB RAM is lower than we've ever run Ubuntu Touch in. === MCMiic is now known as MCMic [09:16] popey: i knew that it will be painful [09:25] popey: looks like ubuntu wouldn't work :( [09:25] popey: this phone has 4gb interfnal flash [09:27] ozzz: it sounds too low spec [09:28] popey: how many space uses default build? [09:28] I don't actually know how much it is unpacked on disk, sorry. [09:29] the lowest phone we support so far is the e4.5 which has 8GB [09:29] and 1GB RAM [09:29] it uses about 2GB ubuntu alone [09:32] popey: mariogrip thanks for info! seems I have a chance :) [09:32] :D [09:32] 2gb will be free for apps [09:33] * mcphail hands ozzz a crowbar and some vaseline [09:33] hahaha :D [09:33] cant you add a sd card to it? [09:33] mariogrip: i have 14gb kingston [09:34] :) [09:36] I just not fully understand how compile process goes [09:37] I have CM source with kernel for this phone, unofficial , but it really works [09:37] I have tested it before === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === dpm_ is now known as dpm === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:08] https://twitter.com/kokoye2007/status/711361017192652800 ITS READY ! === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [12:20] HaloSponge: What is ready ??? [12:20] I can't access twitter. [12:24] Smurphy: ask mariogrip :) [12:25] mariogrip what's that ? running on ubuntu touch ? You have one other non twitter link? [12:25] that seems like android [12:26] Smurphy: http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-os-is-now-being-ported-to-the-oneplus-x-android-smartphone-501910.shtml [12:27] HaloSponge: "IT'S READY" it it just booted, no wifi, no call, no data yet [12:28] mariogrip: Whats the funding for then ? [12:28] more software ? [12:29] Hows the new Wiki goin' ? [12:29] HaloSponge: was used to buy the device, and the rest will be used for new devices [12:30] mariogrip, pfft ... calls and data ... who cares as long as you can sideload game apps :P [12:30] HaloSponge: was thinking about switching to the new this week [12:30] looking forward to more qualcomm based phones [12:30] +1 [12:30] * popey taps his oneplus x [12:30] ogra_: haha :P I have been really addicted to the balls game so yet [12:30] yeah** not yet [12:31] :) [12:31] I think popey should try to build to his own device :) [12:32] maybe without my source :P using portcraft :D [12:32] copeyPhone ! [12:37] tyhicks: ok, this one I think is real :) can you ping ozzz for the apparmor git repo. apparently https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/AppArmorForPhabletKernels is out of date [12:38] mariogrip: Thx. [12:38] I already got a BQ 4.5 :} Love it. [12:44] maybe someone knows, why I got this error: [12:44] build/core/product_config.mk:222: *** Can not locate config makefile for product "aokp_apache". Stop. [12:45] ozzz: you're probably trying to use Cyanogenmod configs on aosp [12:46] or aokp [12:48] mariogrip: yes, cyanogenmod [12:49] ozzz: then you need to convert to it will work with aosp source [12:49] mariogrip: and can I convert it [12:49] mariogrip: aah, pls can you tell me with which tool can I do this? [12:50] ozzz: try to do something like this: https://github.com/ubports/android_device_oneplus_bacon/commit/db97625a8d0b6d92134b24c7fd29e1d2490e1ee2 [12:51] mariogrip: so just replace that in all mk files? [12:52] ozzz: you need to make it fit with your device, but that commit it just show you how it was done for the bacon (oneplus one) device [12:52] aaah!!! now understand! [12:52] mariogrip: thanks a lot! [12:53] ozzz: np :) [12:58] mariogrip: the source I have is incomplete [12:58] i will manually create that files as example you send me [12:58] let's see what I become :) === _salem is now known as salem_ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [13:12] yay, I may have another case "random Qt unit test starts failing on xenial for no reason". did someone update grep again... [13:14] mariogrip: works!!!! [13:15] ahhaa [13:15] hell yeah! [13:15] ozzz: :D [13:15] lol [13:15] you porters are crazy [13:15] 6 hours of searching in google [13:15] I'm noob [13:15] lotuspsychje: hahaha :P [13:15] :p [13:15] don't know what really to do hahah [13:16] only one official manual - all what I have [13:25] guys, and make -j4 means using java with 4 threads? [13:34] Mirv: the sdk update broke my updates because of the browser app [13:38] ozzz: make -j4 means run "make" with 4 threads. Doesn't mean those threads will be running a java compiler. Could be c compiler (or anything else you cando with the makefile) [13:44] mcphail: thanks! [13:45] I used computer at work [13:45] can do more threads [13:45] awesome [13:53] mcphail: just specified the kernel :) now seems I will have sexy time hahaha [13:59] davmor2: you mean ubuntu-sdk-ide? [13:59] davmor2: hmm, no update there since end of January [14:00] davmor2: or you mean qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu on xenial? [14:01] that seems to have just pot file (cmake) and device search related changes [14:17] Mirv: possibly the sdk-ide from ppa which is the recommended way to install ubuntu-sdk either way broke things :( === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader [14:19] davmor2: yes that's the recommended, I'm just mentioning there hasn't been an update so I'm wonder what kind of update is in question [14:22] Mirv: hmmm I don't know then but I get the following trying to update my main box http://paste.ubuntu.com/15470951/ on desktop this is [14:24] davmor2: that actually sounds like not SDK but oSoMoN's webbrowser-app QML pacakge rename with potentially missing Replaces: somewhere [14:25] davmor2: and/or you testing a silo with that rename and now it's reverting that. it's kind of going in the wrong direction. [14:25] Mirv: yay [14:26] Mirv: I'm not testing any silos, I have 3 silos citrain sdk and spotify [14:28] davmor2: it's still pretty weird, the packages it's removing are not in a PPA even, yet who had them installed. there's MP at https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/qml-module-naming/+merge/288080 [14:28] s/who/you/ [14:28] jdstrand: I don't see any new backport branches [14:28] ozzz: what kernel version and device are you wanting to prepare a kernel for [14:28] ? [14:29] davmor2: yes, you had version 0.23+16.04.20160317-0ubuntu1 of webbrowser-app which you've gotten from somewhere, which is not in xenial and never was, maybe in some silo [14:30] tyhicks: I think he wanted a backport branch at all [14:31] popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/1386767/comments/5 I thought that's what the --wipe option does, doesn't it? ;-) [14:31] Launchpad bug 1386767 in ubuntu-keyboard (Ubuntu) "single tap causes many letters sometimes" [Undecided,New] [14:32] mardy: lulz :) [14:32] Mirv: ha you know what it was, I installed a silo for testing something on the desktop that was never removed by the look of it so it has pulled it in, thanks dude [14:32] davmor2, Mirv: I had the same problem earlier today, that’s because I had silo 21 installed on my machine, and I rebuilt it after removing from it the MR that changes the packaging of webbrowser-app [14:33] davmor2: you're welcome [14:33] davmor2, I solved the issue by uninstalling a bunch of packages, then reinstalling them [14:33] oSoMoN: yeah the replaces are not supposed to work backwards :) [14:34] davmor2, I had to remove the SDK, unity8, the browser and webapp container, and a bunch of others [14:34] kalikiana: hi! Regarding bug 1560409, which image revision do you have installed? [14:34] bug 1560409 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "Facebook account plugin stuck at successful login" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560409 [14:35] kalikiana: I just tried r397 from rc-proposed, and I cannot reproduce the bug [14:35] (on mako) [14:35] kalikiana: also, are you using 3g or wifi? [14:40] popey: ubp tree seems to be clean now [14:40] * popey builds [14:41] popey: you need to repo sync, but since we have made some changes on your tree, i would delete everything EXCEPT .repo (so you dont need to download it again) [14:41] yhe [14:41] hm [14:41] am doing a repo sync now [14:41] mardy: 3g, on r286 [14:41] i undid my local changes [14:42] popey: ok [14:42] kalikiana: could you please try on wifi too? [14:42] mardy: you're not using krillin, are you? [14:42] kalikiana: nope, mako [14:42] mardy: will do. I mainly use 3g because network switching tends to not work [14:43] mariogrip: error: Cannot fetch android_external_libselinux [14:43] popey: let me check [14:44] silly selinux stuff [14:45] (especially since we disable it anyway :P ) [14:46] popey: now [14:47] ogra_: yeah, but i had to make a workaround to make cyanogenmod sources work without needing to edit device configs since they specify it [14:47] yeah [14:47] * popey make -j4s [14:48] mardy: Wow. It worked! [14:50] mariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15472459 [14:51] popey: do git diff in build [14:51] mariogrip: no response [14:51] want me to pull from scratch? [14:52] its just shy [14:53] popey: can you check whet skip_build_from_source is in build/core/host_shared_library_internal.mk [14:53] ogra_: lol :P [14:55] popey: can you remove the build folder and do repo sync [14:56] oSoMoN: does the User-Agent changes depending on whether you are connected to wifi or 3g? (see bug 1560409) [14:56] bug 1560409 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "Facebook account plugin stuck at successful login" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560409 [14:57] mardy, definitely not, it changes only based on screen size [14:58] oSoMoN: weird. Maybe oxide/chrome has some internal mechanism to tell the website what type of connection you are using? [14:58] chrisccoulson: ^ [15:00] mariogrip: ok [15:01] mardy, no, but there are HTML5 APIs that webdevs might use to infer the bandwidth and offer a different UX based on that [15:01] this is probably what facebook does (youtube does it too) [15:03] oSoMoN, Mirv: fixed yay remove the silo, update force install removed all the cruft with apt autoremove and then apt install ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-sdk and back to where I was before the breakage \o/ [15:07] mariogrip: still building... looking good [15:08] :D see who is first the build server or popey :) [15:08] hehe [15:08] if I'd known it was a race I'd have used -j16 :) [15:09] hahaha :P [15:09] failed [15:10] nuu [15:10] mariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15472573 [15:15] popey: I'm such a noob, pushed to wrong branch (ubp-5.1.1 insted of ubp-5.1) [15:15] do sync now [15:15] lulz [15:16] oSoMoN, chrisccoulson: and is there a way for an Ubuntu.WebView client to hack around this (report that it's on a higher bandwith, for instance)? [15:23] Jenkins can be pain sometimes.... [15:28] popey: how did it go? still building? [15:28] aw, just failed [15:29] mariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15472707 [15:31] popey: that's strange, that did not happen on the build server, and that has the same source [15:31] mardy, nope [15:34] popey: could you try remove LOCAL_CLANG := true on line 107 in external/libcxx/Android.mk and try to build then [15:35] ok === HaloSponge is now known as FreeSponge [15:37] popey: fyi the build server made with success http://ci.ubports.com:8080/job/ubp-5.1/10/ [15:37] * popey shakes fists at the server [15:37] failed again === FreeSponge is now known as LibreSponge [15:37] mariogrip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15472734 [15:38] odd that your server works and my desktop doesn't? [15:38] popey: you are running xenial right? [15:38] yes [15:38] the server is trusty [15:39] hm [15:39] I have a trusty machine I can test on [15:40] yeah, I'll try on my local machine (xenial) and see if i can find the problem [15:41] mariogrip: want me to try on trusty? [15:42] popey: yeah, that would be awesome [15:42] ok [15:43] brb, dinner time === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [15:52] guys, what TARGET_CPU_VARIANT may be for Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255T? [15:54] popey, mariogrip fwiw, when I worked on that code base, it needed updates for every gcc update we had [15:54] "yay" [15:54] try setting CC to 4.8 if it is still avail on xenial [15:54] popey, thank gcc ;-) [15:54] reason we get to live on vivid still :-) [16:14] Man [16:15] Can I see complete list for supported cpu's? [16:16] for cyanogenmod Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255T is TARGET_CPU_VARIANT=scorpion [16:16] but seems this does not work with touch [16:23] Qualcomm introduced its "Krait" microprocessor architecture in the second generation of Snapdragon SoCs in 2011, allowing each processor core to adjust its speed based on the device's needs [16:23] heh, building ubutu touch is like a detective job [16:23] heh... [16:24] hah, so true! [16:24] if I'm not wrong Qualcomm snapdrgon = kriat [16:25] so... I don't know, it finishet build [16:25] I have image now [16:25] should I flash it? :D [16:26] I had pre-configured kernel... I used check-config for patching kernel config [16:26] but I did not installed APParmor [16:28] all we need, is jdstrand -s help [16:28] something wrong with repos... === dpm is now known as dpm-afk [16:30] popey: but it's clang that is failing [16:30] gcc is already set to 4.8 [16:43] mariogrip: my truty box keeps failing to sync [16:43] error: Exited sync due to fetch errors [16:43] keep getting that [16:45] haha fatal: Out of memory, malloc failed (tried to allocate 448192392 bytes) [16:45] okay, so can't do this on a 512MB VPS :) === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [17:03] popey: the smallest you can go is 2GB [17:03] ah [17:03] * popey kills the 1GB one he started [17:03] but, we need to get it working on xenial :) next lts [17:04] soon finished syncing here [17:08] sil2100, what was that abut my webapps ? anything wrong with them ? [17:08] (/me isnt on internal IRC currently) [17:10] ogra_: using deprecated frameworks [17:11] 15.04 iirc [17:11] i once did a mass-bump [17:11] is that deprecated ? [17:11] ogra_: there's like 270 apps in the store. i just made a joke that they might all be your webapps because you have uploaded so many of them :P [17:11] (i would also expect to get some kind of warning mail from the store or such) [17:11] there was a mail sent to the list last week [17:12] popey, no, i mean a list [17:12] i saw the mail [17:12] but it doesnt tell which apps are outdated [17:12] mine probably are [17:12] all two of them [17:12] popey, we could make such a list from the sheet [17:13] * ogra_ has 70 apps or so ... clicking through the web UI for all of them to check which framework they are will take me hours) [17:13] we could, copy paste the apps out, without the contact email [17:13] ogra_: you don't have to click through the web ui [17:13] yep [17:13] popey, care to do it? [17:14] that would be reall nice and helpful :) [17:14] ogra_: wget https://search.apps.ubuntu.com/api/v1/search?q=name:*.ogra | jq [17:14] ok [17:14] also https://uappexplorer.com/apps?q=ogra&sort=relevance&framework=ubuntu-sdk-14.04 [17:14] ooh [17:14] ozzz: tyhicks can point you at the apparmor trees [17:14] i didnt know uappexplorer supports searching by framework [17:15] filter on the right [17:15] oh, doh. the search results in the api don't have frameworks [17:15] have to get the details for that :-/ [17:16] popey, maybe just do that then, use uappexlorer [17:16] hmm, thats not finding any of my apps regardless what framework i chose [17:17] lemme pastebin the actual answers from the store [17:19] ah, full name and author= ... [17:19] eeek ! [17:19] https://uappexplorer.com/apps?q=author%3AOliver+Grawert&framework=ubuntu-sdk-14.04 [17:19] crap ... that looks like a lot of work :( [17:20] ogra_, hold on [17:20] 14.04 is still fine [17:20] oh, ok [17:20] ogra_, its just the -devs and 13.10 we want to get rid of [17:20] phew ... then i'm good [17:20] ogra_, we were supposed to remove the -devss when we released but didnt I guess [17:21] 14.04 is the lowest i use [17:21] and i havent used -dev since 13.something [17:22] ogra_, yeah you are clear [17:22] phew [17:22] * ogra_ goes back trying to get snappy on the rpi3 working [17:28] pmcgowan: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kPu333_f0mTl-l4BtnO0k_a1mtV1GddooVGKWW8jUt4/edit#gid=0 - just app name, version and framework listed there [17:28] * popey notes he has 7 in there :) [17:31] popey, seems half are canonical folks [17:32] jdstrand, thanks! [17:33] guys and if in out/target/product/../.. is no img file, it means that something gone wrong? [17:40] I have folders there [17:42] kalikiana: hi again! I wonder, could you write me the answer to the first question? https://developers.facebook.com/bugs/945575518812968/ [17:43] kalikiana: also, to rule out changes on our side, could you try with an older image? maybe even from the stable channel? [17:44] mardy: This is with a German blau.de SIM [17:44] I can flash stable later or early tomorrow (need to run) [18:03] mardy: 2016-03-22 13:55:30,841 - WARNING - RequestAccess failed: QDBusError("com.ubuntu.OnlineAccountsUi.UserCanceled", "Canceled") [18:03] mardy: what is that? [18:06] ozzz: the most current apparmor backports tree can be found here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/jj/linux-apparmor-backports/refs/heads [18:21] tyhicks: many thanks!!! [18:22] no problem [18:23] I fixed problem with compile, error in graphics.c - conficting types for 'gr_text' [18:23] here I found the solution: http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/52193/1/recovery/graphics.c [18:47] heh... seems I just saved my phone from bricking it [18:48] BOARD_BOOTIMAGE_PARTITION_SIZE := 5767168 is really small for touch? [18:48] as I understand raising that size, and if don't match to used in phone will cause damage [18:55] boot.img too large (7532544 > [5947392 - 63360]) [18:55] is there a chance to minimize this size of boot.img? [18:56] popey: now it shoud all be fixed [18:56] it works on my xenial now [18:57] ozzz: you could remove netfilter [18:57] from configs [19:01] mariogrip: from default kernel build cfg? [19:01] from defcong [19:01] defconf [19:01] just edit it from y to n [19:04] mariogrip: i set CONFIG_NETFILTER=n [19:04] mariogrip: thanks a lot!! [19:05] ozzz: np :) [19:06] mariogrip: and may I flash images from another pc? [19:06] I'm building now on remote server [19:07] ozzz: yeah, that's fine [19:07] mariogrip: awesome! :) [19:07] just download them to your pc that will do the flashing [19:09] mariogrip: woot will try now [19:11] mariogrip: I planning copy out catalog via scp to my pc what I have here [19:11] and using adb tools flash images [19:15] mariogrip: it helped but not too much :( [19:15] boot.img too large (7421952 > [5947392 - 63360]) [19:15] mariogrip: maybe there is something that I can remove additionaly? [19:15] mariogrip: success! [19:16] ozzz: humm, I'm not an expert with kernels, so I really do not what we need or not, but I know you remove netfilter [19:16] popey: YEY \o/ [19:17] Nice work mariogrip ! [19:17] now, can i make an OPX build ㋛ [19:17] popey: Thanks! And a big thanks to you for testing :) [19:17] mariogrip: thanks, will try to search in google :) [19:18] mariogrip: np, happy to help, always [19:22] popey: do you want the source for OPX or are you trying using the guide? [19:22] (I was kidding) [19:22] hahaha xP [19:23] * mariogrip is slow === curtness is now known as strahtw === curtness is now known as strahtw [20:57] hmm, nexus 5 doesn't like when i choose "reboot" [21:30] In myapps.ubuntu.com how does public/private and sharing interact? I have an app that is not finished that I'd like to update through the store and make available to testers but not be downloadable by the general public (yet). === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:36] robert_ancell, yeah we dont have that yet other than marking the app as "beta" [21:36] afaik [21:37] pmcgowan, so public means - accessible to all? [21:37] yes [21:37] pmcgowan, what's the sharing for then? [21:37] Allows access to private apps? [21:37] robert_ancell, that I dont know [21:38] Perhaps I'll just mark it alpha and hope no-one reviews it as-is :) [21:38] robert_ancell, better to ask in ubuntu-app-devel perhaps [21:38] pmcgowan, ta [21:44] robert_ancell: the "sharing" thing doesn't work, as far as I can tell [21:44] mcphail, :( [21:45] robert_ancell: although, I was trying it with an app which was failing click validation. Might work with a conforming app [21:45] mcphail, I clicked on the link it gave me but it said "you don't need this" because I'm the owner [21:45] What does it give another user? [21:47] robert_ancell: it gives them a link. I think they are then supposed to be able to access the app through the store, linked to their launchpad ID. But it doesn't seem to work [21:48] Yeah, my app is published but private but searching for it doesn't show it [21:50] robert_ancell: we've been distributing our apps as .clicks for each other to test. Not great, but at least it works [21:51] mcphail, ok, thanks for the info. I'll just do that then. [21:51] the other party can see it in myapps [21:51] as if it's one of theirs [21:52] e.g. I can see one of mcphail's apps [21:52] popey: aah - so you can download from there? [21:53] yes [21:53] popey: including versions which fail click validation? [21:53] yes [21:53] popey, so if I send you the link you think you should be able to see my app [21:53] ? [21:53] although i wonder if that's because you shared, or because I'm a reviewer [21:54] try it [21:54] well, i will be able to see your app anyway [21:54] because I'm a reviewer [21:54] popey, the app is called chatter - perhaps you see it anyway? [21:54] Though I don't [21:54] i do [21:54] in the web store, not on my phone [21:54] although it's published so I should, lemme see [21:54] yeah, trying to see it on my phone [21:55] no, don't see it on my phone [21:55] well that's odd [21:56] popey, I PM'd you the link in case that makes a difference [21:56] oh, it says it's private [21:56] is that intentional? [21:57] at the top, under the icon [21:57] popey, yes, because I'm assuming that if I set it to public it will show for everyone? [21:57] yes [21:57] it will [21:57] do you want this tested? [21:57] Is private just for delaying the final enablement of the app [21:57] 😃 [21:58] I haven't actually installed it on my phone yet, I was trying to find an easier way than the SDK / adb [21:58] heh [21:58] i have it installed here now ㋛ [21:58] want bug reports? [21:58] * robert_ancell waits for popeys phone to explode [21:58] popey, sure [21:59] on e4.5, tap the field to put a name, the keyboard moves up and text overlapt [21:59] *overlaps [22:00] pm [22:00] ah, right [22:00] I would disable keyboard accelerators in nickname field too [22:00] you can discuss here - I just wanted to avoid anyone reviewing it before it's ready [22:01] and channel name [22:01] http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2016-03-22-220121.png [22:02] font is massive http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2016-03-22-220156.png [22:02] and never connects [22:02] The IRC servers are crazy slow for some reason [22:02] But it should have kicked in by now... [22:03] it doesn't remember my nickname between opening [22:03] yep, there's no saving yet [22:04] popey. I have no idea to the answers or premises to this question but I shall ask like a beginner anyway ... here goes it: [22:04] Can you change the UA string on the Ubuntu browser on Ubuntu Touch like you can do here? https://twitter.com/mozhacks/status/712327359555366913 [22:05] LibreSponge: not yet [22:05] right. [22:05] * LibreSponge claps. [22:05] robert_ancell: no, never connects here [22:06] LibreSponge: you can in other ways though [22:06] popey, will have to debug that tonight [22:06] just not with a button in the app [22:06] robert_ancell: ok [22:06] popey, Is it worth filing a bug. Shall I ? [22:07] feel free [22:07] ok, I'll do it after work tomorrow. I finish early. :) [22:07] popey, just to prove it does work :) http://imgur.com/53vyQGz [22:08] heh [22:23] It would be quite useful if myapps would show more detailed information about the apps, such as the framework version etc. [23:08] mcphail: it does show that [23:18] * mcphail looks [23:19] aah - that is handy. Didn't notice that. Wanted to check I wasn't using a deprecated framework [23:26] why am i seeing a microchip with a red x behind it on the nexus 10