=== PrivateUser is now known as Private_User [06:06] good morning [06:49] morning magespawn and all others [06:54] hi chesedo [06:55] things seem quite this morning [06:56] indeed, everybody catching up with work after the public holiday [06:56] and Kilos is not it yet [07:00] Good morning everyone. [07:02] hey dlPhreak [07:03] magespawn: how are you? [07:19] Morning [07:19] I just had a screen of death for the first time ever on Linux. A black screen of death :P [07:19] Hi mazal [07:20] I had a lot of those back when I thought it was cool to compile my own kernel. [07:21] I was just working as normal [07:22] What kernel version are you using? [07:22] mazal@mecer-werkpc-maz:~$ uname -r [07:22] 3.13.0-83-generic [07:22] mazal@mecer-werkpc-maz:~$ [07:23] 14.04 [07:23] Kubuntu [07:23] Yeah that's weird. Kernel 3 is super stable. One expects that sort of thing with kernel 4.5 [07:24] I think I must sommer do an update , haven't updated in a week [07:24] Good evening [07:24] howzit superfly [07:24] Lo superfly [07:24] Lol a week.. [07:25] dlPhreak: It's because my updates notifier is broken. Been broken a long time and nobody could find the problem , including google. So I must always remember to do it as nothing reminds me. And my remember is bad [07:25] mazal: you haven't bumped your PC have you? Kernel panics are *usually* because of a hardware problem. [07:25] I'm on arch so there's updates every day but I just don't install it until I'm positive it won't break nothing. [07:26] superfly: Nope , but I did have an external harddrive in that refused to work. But that was about 30 min ago [07:26] I have an update notifier on conky.l [07:27] Prob that drive that caused it [07:31] good evening Kilos [07:32] ohi superfly and morning everyone else [07:34] been trying to find a fone that will actually get answered in the police department that can answer for the clearance peeps taking so long and not answering calls or emails [07:34] seems like the go blank when they see my nymber [07:34] number [07:36] More oom [07:36] hi mazal [07:43] I see oom has the same problems as me [07:43] Struggling with SA incompetance [07:43] yeah [07:44] I'm still battling with telkom [07:44] mazal: you don't have a telkom store in your town, do you? [07:44] They haven't even started the cancellation that I handed in on the 10th already. And on the other side still don't have any routers for mobile either [07:44] if they would only answer a fone or an email that could help, but one sends 5 mails before one reply then they say mail someone else [07:45] superfly: I drove all the way to PTA to a Telkom store and handed it in physically. Not even that trouble helped [07:45] mazal: eish [07:45] I have never experienced such incompetance and uselessness before [07:46] always used to be the customer is always right [07:46] Only the traffic department gets close [07:46] now it is "What customer" [07:46] It's a complete mess in that company at the moment oom [07:47] every one sees only next pay check and how much booze it can buy [07:47] My friend is past 3 weeks now also broken line [07:47] eish [07:47] And it's the same in PTA. Where there are "supposed" to be technitians [07:48] maybe if i walk in smelling of booze i might attract some attention [07:48] At the police station ? [07:48] no at the clearance place [07:49] police stations just say thats clearance peeps domain [07:49] mazal mail the telkom ceo [07:49] the new guy [07:49] Management is the cause of the problem [07:50] useles dealing with lackies on ground lvel [07:50] It's their fault that things are where they are [07:50] yes they dont keep tabs but if its on mail or twitter then there is normally a reaction [07:51] twitter best then everyone sees if they sort the prob [07:51] They just want their insane salaries and retrence technitians to achieve it. Now there is nobody to do the actual job [07:51] stupid hey [07:52] That's SA [07:52] All about greed and corruption [07:52] actually sad [07:52] Infuriating is more like it [07:54] breek die cable na die tronk mense dan sal n techie gou uitkom [07:55] everyone is on facebook all the time [07:55] Yeah our club office line was fixed within 3 days [07:56] like we thought the bangalori loco was dead [07:56] but there are over 300 on fb [07:56] I don't fb much [07:57] I very rarely see anything interesting there [07:57] nor do i [07:57] Just a whole lot of bs everyone shares [08:00] over there they get free fb so you dont even need data to connect [08:00] I want free PSN and XB live [08:00] Now that will help lol [08:00] lol [08:01] Updates is a killer these days shees [08:01] 20 gig a month easy , and that's just for a few games [08:01] yes security is getting tight [08:01] wow [08:01] I had months that was more than that [08:02] Back in the good old days when I had adsl [08:02] you play too many games [08:02] That's not many oom [08:02] too many [08:02] That is for about 6 games [08:02] It's this so called next gen. Crazy sizes [08:02] 20g is my years data nearly [08:03] play freecell and mahjongg, they never update [08:03] For example , last month , just 1 COD update and 1 Gold update was 16 gig between the two of them [08:03] ai! [08:03] It's no surprise when a game on launch have a 15gig or more day one update [08:04] that will change when you get mobile connection [08:04] good mornings [08:04] hi there inetpro how are you [08:04] good day i see [08:04] even morning before midday [08:04] wooooo [08:04] gonna rain [08:08] bbl got to go out [08:10] Kilos: good, good thanks [08:11] magespawn: btw, these trees of mine seem to be special [08:11] I stopped by some other trees in the area yesterday and see no sign of these beetles [08:11] oh my [08:11] or maybe the trees in the area outnumber the beetles [08:12] lol [08:12] never mind there will be more next year [08:12] around the Heatherdale graveyard there are plenty of them trees [08:12] you busy breeding for the whole vaal [08:15] can I register as a professional breeder? [08:15] lol [08:33] When does 16.04 come out? [08:34] near end next month i think [08:34] hi dlPhreak [08:34] Kilos hi! [08:34] Are you well? [08:35] yes im ok ty, and you? [08:35] Got a bit of the flu and I'm medicated lol [08:37] Do you know the release date for 16.04? [08:37] we looked at it last week [08:37] um [08:37] Maaz google 16.04 release date [08:38] Kilos: "Xenial Xerus release schedule - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule :: "Why Are We Calling Ubuntu 16.04 LTS The Best Ubuntu Release In ..." http://fossbytes.com/the-spyware-feature-in-ubuntu-will-be-disabled-in-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus/ :: "This Is The Release Date for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - OMG! Ubuntu!" [08:38] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/ubuntu-16-04-release-schedule-release-schedule-date-xenial-xerus :: "List of Ubu… [08:39] I only download lts versions. [08:39] same [08:39] 21 april. [08:40] i wait a month or two after release as well [08:40] then all the early bugs are sorted [08:40] I have a daily build that I wanted to play around with on a VM. [08:40] Never got around to it tho. [08:40] lol [08:41] i only tried that once [08:41] never the same as an official release [08:44] so inetpro are you calling highvoltage to attend tonight as well? [08:44] i mailed maia too [08:45] asked her to pinch drubin as well [08:57] Hi guys, how are all the young men? [09:02] Kilos, and good news? [09:04] nothing Langjan [09:04] still bugging them or trying to [09:05] It's becoming a nightmare! [09:06] Ready for your meeting tonight? [09:08] yes so far im gonna make it [09:08] even the complaints section doesnt answer their fones [09:09] will see how long it takes to answer an email [09:10] you attending meeting hey? [09:12] if i was big enough id make it an order [09:22] Kilos: there's a meeting tonigh, right? [09:23] Kilos: how do I put an item on the agenda? [09:23] Maaz announce Meeting tonight at 8.30pm. Please attend. absentees will be proscuted [09:23] Hear ye, hear ye! Meeting tonight at 8.30pm. Please attend. absentees will be proscuted [09:23] you just go edit it superfly [09:24] Maaz spell prosecuted [09:24] Kilos: That seems correct. Carry on [09:28] nuvolari Squirm anton_may aquarat inetpro Langjan Private_User thatgraemeguy theblazehen magespawn meeting tonight [09:28] hi thatgraemeguy [09:28] hi Kilos, okay [09:32] Kilos, impending prosecution seems to be forcing me to attend but I don't know what to do there so maybe prosecution will be better [09:35] argh, the Ubuntu wiki really irritates me. why can't it redirect me back to the page I was on before I clicked "login"?! [09:35] very frustrating that hey [09:35] Kilos: ah, OK, DebConf is on there. Ping me when the meeting starts, and when DebConf comes up. I'm busy with DebConf stuff otherwise. [09:36] Langjan just be there and share you company man' [09:36] ok superfly will do [09:36] it was in evnts too i think [09:36] goosie added it [09:36] but nm [09:37] we gonna need this event to show we are actually doing something [09:37] OK will try [09:39] yay [09:39] numbers, its all about the numbers [09:39] Best start prosecuting oom [09:39] nee man maak n plan [09:39] Can't be there , no inet [09:40] use you fone [09:40] lol [09:40] My fone is a cheapie 299 model oom [09:40] I don't use smart phones [09:40] see you guys with the modern gadgets have no excuse [09:40] oh ya [09:40] hmm.... [09:40] mazal use it as a modem [09:40] ty magespawn [09:41] i used to do that with a cell on edge [09:41] no excuses [09:41] I very much doubt that this poena von brugen phone can do that [09:41] And if it could , it would cost me too much [09:41] nono [09:41] never more than 10m data [09:41] way too much [09:41] mazal: even some of the older phones could be used as a modem [09:41] dont game update with it [09:42] then eavesdrop on the neighbour's WiFi [09:42] Kilos: A pc that hasn't been updated in a month suddenly gets connected , will kill my pay as you go [09:42] but it depends on if your phone can be plugged into USB and what your phone shows up as in your computer [09:42] turn off updates [09:43] AV turns it back on automatically [09:43] in settings where it shows daily weekly etc scroll down and choose never [09:43] mazal: do you have a liveCD [09:43] Remember , it's winbloze we talking about here [09:43] ja chesedo clever [09:44] you dont have kde at home?????????? [09:44] sies man [09:44] Waiting for 16.04 oom [09:44] use live cd [09:44] AND Inet. Can't install Ubu without inet [09:44] no excuses only solutions [09:44] And the current rate I doubt I will be connected by May :( [09:45] I have live cd yes. But have no idea how to even check if my phone can be used as modem. And no google there to ask [09:45] live cd, cell as modem and browse to the site and login as qweby [09:45] you plug in the data cable and see if nm sees it [09:46] mazal: download the daily ISO for 16.04 and use it as a live CD on a USB disk [09:46] ai! ek sukkel met my volk man [09:46] keep it up to date with zsinc [09:46] Kilos: What's nm ? [09:46] network manager [09:47] the network icon [09:47] What should it see ? Should show modem ? [09:47] Or show my phone's name ? [09:47] it will see the fone and offer to use it as madem [09:47] modem [09:48] Offer via automatic popup , or right-click option ? [09:48] right click if needed [09:49] Will check tonight if I don't forget. Have some iso's at home [09:49] ok [09:49] But I doubt it [09:49] where theres a will theres a way [09:49] This phone is serious entry level hey [09:49] think possitive [09:49] what fone has barry got [09:50] He has a smart one , S3 I think [09:50] there you go [09:50] annex it [09:50] lol [09:50] I was just about to say that doesn't help me , barry don't live with me lol [09:50] tell him his benefit is being able to attend meeting with you [09:51] just take the fone man [09:51] 'dont beg [09:51] only robot beggars are well off [09:51] But what about the "modem" setup then ? Shouldn't there be specific dial-up settings or something. It won't be as easy as plug 'n play [09:51] nm sees fones [09:52] connects easy you just have to tell it to use internet and *99# [09:52] butlately thats auto when you choose the country you are in [09:53] tell barry turn off password then it connects easy [09:53] I'm not gonna take the man's phone [09:54] tell him its orders from aove [09:54] above [09:54] otherwise lightning will whack him onna butt [09:59] I remember something else now [09:59] But don't know id it still works. [09:59] haha [09:59] what id [09:59] oh if [09:59] Many moons ago , I bough a Vodacom 3g stick. Loaded it with 50mb prepaid data. [09:59] sjoe jy vol drama ne [10:00] try it [10:00] But that thing hasn't been in a pc for years. It's probably deleted from the network [10:00] but grab barry's fone first [10:00] if stick works give back cell [10:00] Don't they delete cell numbers when it is not connected on the network for a certain time and give it to someone else ? [10:01] put you sim from fone in it [10:01] It's a sealed stick [10:01] Can't open it [10:01] yes 3 or 4 months [10:01] where you put the sim in then [10:01] just get a new sim, quic, quick [10:01] Must be onboard somehow [10:01] It looks like a usb memory stick [10:01] no man they just clip together [10:01] inetpro: You mean it must be able to open somehow ? [10:02] yes [10:02] yep, they all do [10:02] hmm [10:02] they clip together [10:02] I actually tried that when I got it and couldn't find how it opens. Boggled me , but it worked [10:02] start at the usb plug end and lever in cracks with knife [10:03] I'm gonna try that first. Try open it , put my sim in [10:03] yay [10:03] Maybe first check if the current sim still works [10:03] It had data and money on it [10:03] yes try but then you will need cell c aititme [10:03] data expires [10:04] with money one it might be alive still [10:04] At first I connected it once a month to keep it alive , but after some time I stopped. And after move it is somewhere in a box completely forgotten [10:04] if it's many moons ago it will probably have expired and cut off from the network even [10:04] Prepaid data don't expire Kilos. But if they kille the nr then all will be gone [10:05] inetpro: I think that will be the case [10:05] best bet is to get a new sim, they're very cheap [10:05] This will teach me now to not forget things argh !!!! [10:06] I wonder though , if sim is nuked , then if I log in to My Vodacom it shouldn't show there right ? If it still shows it might be alive still ? [10:06] I will have that login details in a doc somewhere [10:06] * mazal goes searching [10:09] "We are unable to authenticate you now, please try again later." [10:09] I guess that means it's nuked as the username is the cell number [10:09] call them to re-enable it [10:10] .me is nou sommer de m543r in vir homself [10:10] mazal: they can activate a sim again [10:11] And the irony is , I got it that time as a backup for when my ADSL is down. And due to my own forgettfulness it doesn't work now [10:11] inetpro: I will try [10:20] o/ all [10:27] hi magespawn !!!! [10:52] Kilos, can I take Maaz for a while! I know Maaz wouldn't mind. [12:01] chesedo: saw you mail on the GLUG list :) [12:01] kmf: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell kmf Sorry i missed you. i slept most of the afternoon away" 3 days, 21 hours, 13 minutes and 33 seconds ago [12:01] sorry kmf [12:01] hi kmf [12:01] hi Kilos [12:02] hi chesedo [12:02] * chesedo was wondering if any of them went through [12:02] btw Kilos the Trademark usage for Ubuntu for Hope has been approved by Canonical [12:02] kmf have you any feedback on your project for tonights meeting [12:02] wonderful [12:02] thats good news [12:02] Kilos very relieved .... [12:03] chesedo: you can always check the archives [12:03] congrats kmf [12:03] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/ [12:03] hi kmf [12:03] well done kmf [12:03] howdy inetpro [12:03] for what ... sending an email? [12:03] yes very well done [12:04] I won't be able to attend tonight's meeting just wanted to drop in and share the news [12:04] kmf: yes, to see whether his mail went through, if he is unsure [12:04] #glug.za has shrunk [12:04] inetpro: got an auto reply from our list that it was received, but not from any of the lugs which i wondered about [12:05] chesedo on the topic of the Con's they are a mission to organize [12:05] ok, ty for feedback kmf [12:05] chesedo but maybe we can can aim for a digital meetup [12:06] at various satellite sites [12:06] thats also an idea [12:07] im gonna have a ballie nap if im not needed [12:12] nag oom Kilos [12:47] * inetpro likes the new apt [12:48] since when can we use apt in stead of apt-get? [12:48] looks like they introduced that in 14.04 [12:49] http://askubuntu.com/questions/445384/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-and-apt-get [12:56] * chesedo has been wondering why he sees a progress bar sometimes during updates [12:56] good find inetpro [12:57] I still prefer aptitude search in stead of apt search though [14:33] go home all and get ready for tonights meeting [14:33] 8.30 pm [14:33] here [14:44] Hi Kilos, just to let you know I will not be joining you this evening, we have guests for the night. Have a great evening! [14:45] ok ty Langjan [14:45] you are forgiven [14:45] Thanks, I knew I would be it I confess - that's how it works. [14:45] lol [14:46] Mooi loop [14:46] jy ook dankie [14:46] Thks [14:46] geniet die aand [14:46] Jy ook dankie [14:54] oh well apt works [14:54] apt update and apt upgrade [14:55] lekker saves looking for - and typing get [14:58] how time for me, chat later at the meeting [14:58] go well [14:58] maybe ill sleep through the meeting [15:47] what will this command do guys?? [15:47] apt install foo [15:47] dont tell me try it till i know what foo is even [16:14] can I change my local default fonts? [16:15] evening all [16:15] any kodi users here? [16:15] hi bushtech hope you here for the meeting as well [16:15] what time is it? [16:16] 8.30 [16:17] ok might be in and out very busy [16:22] ok ty [17:25] chesedo is jy reg vir die mense [17:26] Maaz seen nuvolari [17:26] Kilos: nuvolari was last seen 1 month, 27 days, 7 hours, 15 minutes and 12 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-01-25 02:10:54 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2016-03-22 02:02:48 PDT [17:26] ai! [17:26] nuvolari ping [17:26] hey Kilos [17:26] still 1H left though [17:26] yes [17:26] just checking [17:27] ok [17:29] Kilos: you excited? [17:29] always [17:30] i have to wait a month for next meeting [17:30] lol... good [17:30] ai [17:30] * chesedo will also miss may's [17:31] whyyyy [17:31] exams [17:32] yes thats more important [17:32] will have a test next day [17:32] inetpro will do it === PrivateUser is now known as Private_User [17:39] see you all tomorrow. just tell me when i must remove the bot [17:39] ai! [17:40] domdonner [17:43]