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zequenceThe first beta candidates are built.08:11
zequence..and not unity-control-center, finally08:12
zequenceno*08:12
flocculant:)08:12
zequenceLooking good.08:29
zequenceRosco2: Hi09:35
zequenceRosco2: As I said on the bug report, you can still just add your changes to the bzr branch lp:ubuntustudio-look, and I can upload it09:36
zequenceI can do uploads up until final release, basically, but at the very end I need to poke someone to get it through09:36
Rosco2Thanks - I am on it. Takes some time with all the wallpapers09:41
Rosco2Will also double check the diff to make sure both builds (from archive & source) are the same09:42
zequenceRosco2: Sorry I missed that. I do check what I upload, but for some reason I didn't catch that at all09:42
Rosco2Me to. I think it was my commit that did it.09:43
Rosco2So many binaries with diffferences - easy to miss09:43
zequenceI suppose, and not a mistake you want to make as an uploader :P09:44
zequenceRosco2: I was finally able to remove the unity stuff that we've had on the desktop yesterday. The most recent build seems ok.09:46
zequenceThere was a problem with how the seeds were organized. Didn't actually add or remove any packages09:46
Rosco2I was glad when I saw you doing that09:47
zequenceRosco2: Btw, you're in Denmark? Aren't you from the US?09:47
Rosco2Had started to try and see what was causing it09:47
Rosco2But I would have been much slower :-)09:47
Rosco2Oz > UK > Denmark09:47
zequenceI had some help from cjwatson. He was able to tell me plainly what to look for - namely the order in which the packages are seeded09:48
Rosco2He is a whizz that Colin09:48
zequenceHe is09:49
sakrecoerhi Rosco2! :)09:59
sakrecoeryou've done some serious super work! just wanted to say hi, and possibly highfive :)10:01
sakrecoerfor some reason i'm not allowed to edit the release note page, again.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Beta2/UbuntuStudio10:02
sakrecoerit is #canonincal-sysadmin i need to notify right?10:03
zequencesakrecoer: Logout and login again10:07
zequenceHappened to me yesterday. Had an old login active. The cookies must have passed their best before date10:08
sakrecoerzequence: won't do...10:08
sakrecoeri never keep cookies10:09
sakrecoer(but that is a side note:)10:09
zequenceWell, some form of cache is involved10:09
zequenceI would have thought the login is stored as a cookie, but I might be wrong10:09
sakrecoerit says "Immutable Page" in the top left-hand corner..10:10
sakrecoeryeah, i keep cookies until i shut firefox down10:10
zequencesakrecoer: Did you logout and login again?10:10
zequenceAlso, do a full refresh10:10
sakrecoerzequence: yes 3 times now10:10
sakrecoerzequence: yes restarted browser twice10:10
zequenceshift + ctrl + R10:10
sakrecoertried shoft+ctrl+R 3 times now10:11
zequenceThat's weird. Someone don't like you10:11
sakrecoer:'(10:11
sakrecoerzequence: is it canonical i need to ping about it?10:12
zequenceMaybe your cookies are too fresh from the oven10:12
zequenceYes10:12
zequenceTry #canonical-sysadmin 10:13
sakrecoerhaha! i certainly prefere that fresh cookie theory :')10:13
zequenceOnce I edited multiple wiki pages at one time, and started saving them really fast, one by one. The wiki got upset, and told me to slow down10:15
zequenceAntispam protection of some sort, I would think10:15
sakrecoerwell, that would make sense if had edited anything... 10:16
sakrecoerbut all i've done is a few edits last beta release, and it was freshly re-activated ...10:17
zequenceNo, I don't think what's happened here10:17
zequenceJust came to think about that, since you were talking about not spamming on the other channel.10:18
sakrecoeryeah, i mean, it would make sense if i had worked a lot in there :blush:10:19
sakrecoerlet's see what they say :) after all, AFK nobody knows i'm a robot, but a wiki might as well know :p10:20
zequenceTakes one to know one10:20
Rosco2ubuntustudio-look pushed10:27
Rosco2Diffs check out OK10:27
Rosco2On - the wiki. I did have problems a few days back10:28
Rosco2Can't remember exactly what I did. But it was probably what you have already done 10:28
sakrecoeri'll keep trying during the afternoon :) 10:38
cfhowlettsakrecoer, something to add to your planning calendar10:39
sakrecoercfhowlett: hi! :) sure! what would that be?10:42
cfhowlettnext year is the 10th anniversary of our favorite distro.  I expect parties and gifts.10:42
cfhowlettor at least parties and contests10:42
zequenceRosco2: Do you make use of debcommit?10:42
zequenceRosco2: I sometimes forget, but it's really useful.10:43
zequenceIt's preferred, actually10:43
zequenceYou make one change, describe it in debian/changelog, as you usually do. Then, instead of doing a 'bzr commit ...', you just do 'debcommit'10:44
Rosco2Yes - I normally do in Debian10:44
zequenceOk10:44
Rosco2Now I know it works with bzr too .........10:44
zequence:)10:44
sakrecoercfhowlett: hmm... interesting. i've had a background task runing at 2% of my wetware mainframe to organize a meet up...10:49
cfhowlettgotta think bigger man.  GLOBAL party.  with beer.  lots and lots of beer.10:50
sakrecoerhaha!10:50
cfhowlettat the very least, a 10 year anniversary wallpaper and a user art showcase10:51
sakrecoeri'm all for it! setup teleportal rooms in every city: a room with projections of all other rooms on the walls :p10:51
cfhowlett?10:51
sakrecoeryeah! thats a good idea! some super compilation of art/multimedia production10:52
zequenceWouldn't be a bad idea to try organize a meetup. Could be in conjuction with some form of a conference10:52
cfhowlettthis ^^^10:52
sakrecoerzequence: very good point!10:52
zequenceLike, Linux Audio Conference, or something similar10:52
cfhowlettor even NON audio events?  10:53
sakrecoeri was part of the organization of http://rmll.info but it is _very_ francophone10:53
sakrecoernever the less, i'm sure they'd be honoured to host ubuntustudio10:54
zequenceSure. Ubuntu Developer Summit is no longer an option, but there are others. Debian Conference is somewhat in the same ballpark10:54
sakrecoerare the dev-summit no longer held?10:55
cfhowlettI'd go so far as to suggest the major apps: Blender, Audacity, Openshot, Darktable, Gimp all have meetups, yes?10:56
sakrecoercfhowlett: that is why it would be nice to guest at an already established meeting10:56
zequenceThere's no physical summit for Ubuntu developers. Just a virtual one10:57
zequenceBlender and Gimp at least. Also, there's some DE based meetups.10:59
sakrecoerblender just released a new version btw :D11:00
zequenceGood thing with LAC (Linux Audio Conference) is that you can set up som form of a live gig11:01
zequenceThey aren't having a full blown thing this year. They're calling it mini-LAC http://minilac.linuxaudio.org/index.php/Main_Page11:01
zequenceUsually some place in central Europe11:01
zequenceFor Debian Conference, it is possible to get travel funds11:01
sakrecoeryeah! we should talk to LAC, at least for next year :)11:02
zequenceBut, that should mean you are a contributor to the project somehow11:02
sakrecoerwell, i think ubuntustudio is a great contributor to audio on linux :) i mean, US is the first step to the heavy stuff for many users :)11:03
cfhowlettgrrr.  can we *please* not always focus on the audio?  11:10
cfhowlett:)11:10
zequenceWe don't, but inevitably it is the major part of this distro11:16
zequenceOk, seems uploads need to be approved from now on. My latest upload was not "accepted". Instead it's "waiting for approval"11:17
zequenceBut, that may be only during the Final Beta testing period. May be lifted after for a while again11:19
zequenceHeading to the studio. bb this evening11:21
sakrecoerenjoy zequence 11:21
sakrecoeri'm off too, not to go to the mine to dig out some rent money11:22
sakrecoerand cfhowlett, great idea! thanks for bringing th 10 year thing to the attention of the group11:22
cfhowlettas always ... happy2help!11:23
knomei think you also need to be a ubuntu member to be eligible to apply for funds from the community fund11:25
krytarikRosco2: Btw, the Plymouth logo images weren't actually, you just didn't *move* them as well with commit 166 :P - they're still here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-look/trunk/files/head:/lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntustudio-logo/12:47
krytarik+ dropped12:47
Rosco2aargh. I have so many diffs laying about. I missed the obvious.12:52
Rosco2Will need another revision to tidy up now. 12:54
zequenceknome: I was referring to Debian funds, but haven't really investigated what possibilities there are in the Ubuntu community16:28
knomezequence, right, that explains... but i don't think it's completely out of question to get funding to those events from the ubuntu fund either16:42
krytariksakrecoer, zequence: An adjusted diff between Xubuntu and Ubuntu Studio Default Settings: http://paste.openstack.org/show/oUaTA1g4owyOfbEwux0T/ - have to run now though.16:58
sakrecoerthanx krytarik! :)17:01
zequenceRosco2: I had forgotten to push the last commit I made. Just a small changelog fix so my name is used for the upload18:05
zequenceIt's up now, so please pull18:05
Rosco2zequence: OK will do.18:39
Rosco2Apparently seeded packages need a special prod to get through to that there is a mini freeze during Beta testing18:40
Rosco2now that there is a mini freeze18:41
Rosco2Back working on imagemagick at the moment18:41
zequenceRosco2: I always forget how the freezes work. Seems it will continue until final freeze20:24
zequenceI can still upload as I normally do. Just that someone will need to review the upload before accepting20:24
zequenceNeedless to say, we should stick to bug fixes (which we should do since Feature Freeze, but we've taken some freedoms)20:25
Rosco2zequence: technically you are correct20:32
Rosco2But there is an autobot that will accept non-seeded packages to reduce burden on release team20:33
Rosco2https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2016-March/003665.html20:33
zequenceRosco2: Right, since the packages I can upload are all seeded20:40
Rosco2:-)20:40
sakrecoerwiki show no love :/ i'm now a member of ~ubuntu-etherpad, so it should be good. but i get error 500...21:18
knomewith 500, just refresh21:19
flocculantget someone else to refresh while you cross your fingers21:20
sakrecoerwish i could say i haven't tried refreshing.  21:21
knomeclearly not enough :P21:21
sakrecoerlol21:21
sakrecoeri'll try flocculant s advise21:21
sakrecoerbitter robophobic wiki! i put on my gloves and it worked!21:25
sakrecoernot even 500, just... welcome you whom isn't sets fingers21:25
sakrecoershort victory, still locked from editing... :'( wiki hates me!21:29
krytariksakrecoer: Just do as everyone else does - hate it back. :P21:30
sakrecoerhaha! i wish! havent got the right version of wetware to run that feeling:p21:31

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