[08:11] <zequence> The first beta candidates are built.
[08:12] <zequence> ..and not unity-control-center, finally
[08:12] <zequence> no*
[08:12] <flocculant> :)
[08:29] <zequence> Looking good.
[09:35] <zequence> Rosco2: Hi
[09:36] <zequence> Rosco2: As I said on the bug report, you can still just add your changes to the bzr branch lp:ubuntustudio-look, and I can upload it
[09:36] <zequence> I can do uploads up until final release, basically, but at the very end I need to poke someone to get it through
[09:41] <Rosco2> Thanks - I am on it. Takes some time with all the wallpapers
[09:42] <Rosco2> Will also double check the diff to make sure both builds (from archive & source) are the same
[09:42] <zequence> Rosco2: Sorry I missed that. I do check what I upload, but for some reason I didn't catch that at all
[09:43] <Rosco2> Me to. I think it was my commit that did it.
[09:43] <Rosco2> So many binaries with diffferences - easy to miss
[09:44] <zequence> I suppose, and not a mistake you want to make as an uploader :P
[09:46] <zequence> Rosco2: I was finally able to remove the unity stuff that we've had on the desktop yesterday. The most recent build seems ok.
[09:46] <zequence> There was a problem with how the seeds were organized. Didn't actually add or remove any packages
[09:47] <Rosco2> I was glad when I saw you doing that
[09:47] <zequence> Rosco2: Btw, you're in Denmark? Aren't you from the US?
[09:47] <Rosco2> Had started to try and see what was causing it
[09:47] <Rosco2> But I would have been much slower :-)
[09:47] <Rosco2> Oz > UK > Denmark
[09:48] <zequence> I had some help from cjwatson. He was able to tell me plainly what to look for - namely the order in which the packages are seeded
[09:48] <Rosco2> He is a whizz that Colin
[09:49] <zequence> He is
[09:59] <sakrecoer> hi Rosco2! :)
[10:01] <sakrecoer> you've done some serious super work! just wanted to say hi, and possibly highfive :)
[10:02] <sakrecoer> for some reason i'm not allowed to edit the release note page, again.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Beta2/UbuntuStudio
[10:03] <sakrecoer> it is #canonincal-sysadmin i need to notify right?
[10:07] <zequence> sakrecoer: Logout and login again
[10:08] <zequence> Happened to me yesterday. Had an old login active. The cookies must have passed their best before date
[10:08] <sakrecoer> zequence: won't do...
[10:09] <sakrecoer> i never keep cookies
[10:09] <sakrecoer> (but that is a side note:)
[10:09] <zequence> Well, some form of cache is involved
[10:09] <zequence> I would have thought the login is stored as a cookie, but I might be wrong
[10:10] <sakrecoer> it says "Immutable Page" in the top left-hand corner..
[10:10] <sakrecoer> yeah, i keep cookies until i shut firefox down
[10:10] <zequence> sakrecoer: Did you logout and login again?
[10:10] <zequence> Also, do a full refresh
[10:10] <sakrecoer> zequence: yes 3 times now
[10:10] <sakrecoer> zequence: yes restarted browser twice
[10:10] <zequence> shift + ctrl + R
[10:11] <sakrecoer> tried shoft+ctrl+R 3 times now
[10:11] <zequence> That's weird. Someone don't like you
[10:11] <sakrecoer> :'(
[10:12] <sakrecoer> zequence: is it canonical i need to ping about it?
[10:12] <zequence> Maybe your cookies are too fresh from the oven
[10:12] <zequence> Yes
[10:13] <zequence> Try #canonical-sysadmin 
[10:13] <sakrecoer> haha! i certainly prefere that fresh cookie theory :')
[10:15] <zequence> Once I edited multiple wiki pages at one time, and started saving them really fast, one by one. The wiki got upset, and told me to slow down
[10:15] <zequence> Antispam protection of some sort, I would think
[10:16] <sakrecoer> well, that would make sense if had edited anything... 
[10:17] <sakrecoer> but all i've done is a few edits last beta release, and it was freshly re-activated ...
[10:17] <zequence> No, I don't think what's happened here
[10:18] <zequence> Just came to think about that, since you were talking about not spamming on the other channel.
[10:19] <sakrecoer> yeah, i mean, it would make sense if i had worked a lot in there :blush:
[10:20] <sakrecoer> let's see what they say :) after all, AFK nobody knows i'm a robot, but a wiki might as well know :p
[10:20] <zequence> Takes one to know one
[10:27] <Rosco2> ubuntustudio-look pushed
[10:27] <Rosco2> Diffs check out OK
[10:28] <Rosco2> On - the wiki. I did have problems a few days back
[10:28] <Rosco2> Can't remember exactly what I did. But it was probably what you have already done 
[10:38] <sakrecoer> i'll keep trying during the afternoon :) 
[10:39] <cfhowlett> sakrecoer, something to add to your planning calendar
[10:42] <sakrecoer> cfhowlett: hi! :) sure! what would that be?
[10:42] <cfhowlett> next year is the 10th anniversary of our favorite distro.  I expect parties and gifts.
[10:42] <cfhowlett> or at least parties and contests
[10:42] <zequence> Rosco2: Do you make use of debcommit?
[10:43] <zequence> Rosco2: I sometimes forget, but it's really useful.
[10:43] <zequence> It's preferred, actually
[10:44] <zequence> You make one change, describe it in debian/changelog, as you usually do. Then, instead of doing a 'bzr commit ...', you just do 'debcommit'
[10:44] <Rosco2> Yes - I normally do in Debian
[10:44] <zequence> Ok
[10:44] <Rosco2> Now I know it works with bzr too .........
[10:44] <zequence> :)
[10:49] <sakrecoer> cfhowlett: hmm... interesting. i've had a background task runing at 2% of my wetware mainframe to organize a meet up...
[10:50] <cfhowlett> gotta think bigger man.  GLOBAL party.  with beer.  lots and lots of beer.
[10:50] <sakrecoer> haha!
[10:51] <cfhowlett> at the very least, a 10 year anniversary wallpaper and a user art showcase
[10:51] <sakrecoer> i'm all for it! setup teleportal rooms in every city: a room with projections of all other rooms on the walls :p
[10:51] <cfhowlett> ?
[10:52] <sakrecoer> yeah! thats a good idea! some super compilation of art/multimedia production
[10:52] <zequence> Wouldn't be a bad idea to try organize a meetup. Could be in conjuction with some form of a conference
[10:52] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[10:52] <sakrecoer> zequence: very good point!
[10:52] <zequence> Like, Linux Audio Conference, or something similar
[10:53] <cfhowlett> or even NON audio events?  
[10:53] <sakrecoer> i was part of the organization of http://rmll.info but it is _very_ francophone
[10:54] <sakrecoer> never the less, i'm sure they'd be honoured to host ubuntustudio
[10:54] <zequence> Sure. Ubuntu Developer Summit is no longer an option, but there are others. Debian Conference is somewhat in the same ballpark
[10:55] <sakrecoer> are the dev-summit no longer held?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> I'd go so far as to suggest the major apps: Blender, Audacity, Openshot, Darktable, Gimp all have meetups, yes?
[10:56] <sakrecoer> cfhowlett: that is why it would be nice to guest at an already established meeting
[10:57] <zequence> There's no physical summit for Ubuntu developers. Just a virtual one
[10:59] <zequence> Blender and Gimp at least. Also, there's some DE based meetups.
[11:00] <sakrecoer> blender just released a new version btw :D
[11:01] <zequence> Good thing with LAC (Linux Audio Conference) is that you can set up som form of a live gig
[11:01] <zequence> They aren't having a full blown thing this year. They're calling it mini-LAC http://minilac.linuxaudio.org/index.php/Main_Page
[11:01] <zequence> Usually some place in central Europe
[11:01] <zequence> For Debian Conference, it is possible to get travel funds
[11:02] <sakrecoer> yeah! we should talk to LAC, at least for next year :)
[11:02] <zequence> But, that should mean you are a contributor to the project somehow
[11:03] <sakrecoer> well, i think ubuntustudio is a great contributor to audio on linux :) i mean, US is the first step to the heavy stuff for many users :)
[11:10] <cfhowlett> grrr.  can we *please* not always focus on the audio?  
[11:10] <cfhowlett> :)
[11:16] <zequence> We don't, but inevitably it is the major part of this distro
[11:17] <zequence> Ok, seems uploads need to be approved from now on. My latest upload was not "accepted". Instead it's "waiting for approval"
[11:19] <zequence> But, that may be only during the Final Beta testing period. May be lifted after for a while again
[11:21] <zequence> Heading to the studio. bb this evening
[11:21] <sakrecoer> enjoy zequence 
[11:22] <sakrecoer> i'm off too, not to go to the mine to dig out some rent money
[11:22] <sakrecoer> and cfhowlett, great idea! thanks for bringing th 10 year thing to the attention of the group
[11:23] <cfhowlett> as always ... happy2help!
[11:25] <knome> i think you also need to be a ubuntu member to be eligible to apply for funds from the community fund
[12:47] <krytarik> Rosco2: Btw, the Plymouth logo images weren't actually, you just didn't *move* them as well with commit 166 :P - they're still here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-look/trunk/files/head:/lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntustudio-logo/
[12:47] <krytarik> + dropped
[12:52] <Rosco2> aargh. I have so many diffs laying about. I missed the obvious.
[12:54] <Rosco2> Will need another revision to tidy up now. 
[16:28] <zequence> knome: I was referring to Debian funds, but haven't really investigated what possibilities there are in the Ubuntu community
[16:42] <knome> zequence, right, that explains... but i don't think it's completely out of question to get funding to those events from the ubuntu fund either
[16:58] <krytarik> sakrecoer, zequence: An adjusted diff between Xubuntu and Ubuntu Studio Default Settings: http://paste.openstack.org/show/oUaTA1g4owyOfbEwux0T/ - have to run now though.
[17:01] <sakrecoer> thanx krytarik! :)
[18:05] <zequence> Rosco2: I had forgotten to push the last commit I made. Just a small changelog fix so my name is used for the upload
[18:05] <zequence> It's up now, so please pull
[18:39] <Rosco2> zequence: OK will do.
[18:40] <Rosco2> Apparently seeded packages need a special prod to get through to that there is a mini freeze during Beta testing
[18:41] <Rosco2> now that there is a mini freeze
[18:41] <Rosco2> Back working on imagemagick at the moment
[20:24] <zequence> Rosco2: I always forget how the freezes work. Seems it will continue until final freeze
[20:24] <zequence> I can still upload as I normally do. Just that someone will need to review the upload before accepting
[20:25] <zequence> Needless to say, we should stick to bug fixes (which we should do since Feature Freeze, but we've taken some freedoms)
[20:32] <Rosco2> zequence: technically you are correct
[20:33] <Rosco2> But there is an autobot that will accept non-seeded packages to reduce burden on release team
[20:33] <Rosco2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2016-March/003665.html
[20:40] <zequence> Rosco2: Right, since the packages I can upload are all seeded
[20:40] <Rosco2> :-)
[21:18] <sakrecoer> wiki show no love :/ i'm now a member of ~ubuntu-etherpad, so it should be good. but i get error 500...
[21:19] <knome> with 500, just refresh
[21:20] <flocculant> get someone else to refresh while you cross your fingers
[21:21] <sakrecoer> wish i could say i haven't tried refreshing.  
[21:21] <knome> clearly not enough :P
[21:21] <sakrecoer> lol
[21:21] <sakrecoer> i'll try flocculant s advise
[21:25] <sakrecoer> bitter robophobic wiki! i put on my gloves and it worked!
[21:25] <sakrecoer> not even 500, just... welcome you whom isn't sets fingers
[21:29] <sakrecoer> short victory, still locked from editing... :'( wiki hates me!
[21:30] <krytarik> sakrecoer: Just do as everyone else does - hate it back. :P
[21:31] <sakrecoer> haha! i wish! havent got the right version of wetware to run that feeling:p