[07:06] <flocculant> thanks slickymaster :)
[07:56] <flocculant> knome: on *our* wiki contact page the wiki and lp icons look truncated
[08:17] <flocculant> bluesabre: elementary icons \o/ :)
[08:18] <flocculant> bluesabre knome - got a pad started - have grabbed bits from 14.10 to 15.10 changes onto there for when we get to final release while I thought about that http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-xenial-release-notes 
[09:36] <bluesabre> flocculant: it worked then?
[09:38] <Unit193> flocculant: Have not dug into it much right now. :/
[10:22] <pavlushka> Hi I am from Bangladesh, if there's anything for Bengali Translation?, actually I know there's may be huge things for Bengali translation.
[10:23] <pavlushka> I mean for the recent release.
[10:23] <pavlushka> I mean for the upcoming release.
[10:27] <dkessel> pavlushka: it looks like the installer slideshow is mostly untranslated: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu
[10:27] <dkessel> for more things to translate, see: http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/documentation.html#docs-packages
[10:27] <pavlushka> on it.
[11:13] <knome> flocculant, at least i can't see that, so maybe you need to send a screenshot :)
[11:18] <knome> bluesabre, so what exactly do we need to change to make sure the contributor docs do not build on the package?
[11:19] <knome> the "all" target?
[11:22] <krytarik> knome: Yes.
[11:23] <knome> krytarik, thanks
[11:23] <knome> let's see if i get there before my mom steps from the door
[11:23] <knome> ín
[11:23] <knome> ++
[11:23] <knome> one of these days again i see...
[11:23] <krytarik> :D
[11:27] <bluesabre> knome: if I had to guess, drop "contributor-all" from https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/xenial/view/head:/Makefile#L29
[11:31] <krytarik> Also, to be more specific regarding my earlier suggestion on how to fix the current PDF build fails, we'd add the symlink creation and removal *around* the 'for' loop in the script.
[11:32] <knome> krytarik, maybe you could prepare it somewhere
[11:35] <krytarik> knome: I was going to offer providing a diff, if that'd be sufficient, yes. :P
[11:36] <knome> please just provide the new file instead
[11:36] <knome> as we've seen, playing with diffs can be dangerous :P
[11:36] <krytarik> :D
[11:44] <krytarik> knome: http://paste.openstack.org/show/lizRpEa1yNPsfjoGHhfV/
[11:45] <HaloSponge> morning o/
[11:49] <knome> bluesabre, lp:xubuntu-docs is updated for you to upload; bugs courtesy of krytarik 
[11:50] <knome> ;)=
[11:50] <HaloSponge> err Hello
[11:50] <knome> HaloSponge, hello
[11:50] <HaloSponge> Morning morning, good mornings.
[11:51] <HaloSponge> Im dating a vet !
[11:51] <knome> okay, how is that related to the xubuntu development?
[11:52] <HaloSponge> sorry for that :)
[11:53] <knome> no problem
[11:54] <pavlushka> Having problems with update.
[11:55] <pavlushka> although I am up-to-date but a notification is flashing, saying update information is outdated.
[11:56] <pavlushka> I am using Ubuntu Bangladesh server.
[11:56] <knome> pavlushka, what it is saying is that you haven't ran "apt-get update" recently enough
[11:58] <pavlushka> it says, this could happen due to repository problem or network problem, but definitely not network as I connected to you.
[12:00] <pavlushka> and even the "sudo apt-get update" is working in the terminal as I re-run it to test.
[12:02] <HaloSponge> How do I get an Easter-egg into Xubuntu 16.04 ?
[12:03] <knome> HaloSponge, hmm?
[12:03] <HaloSponge> simple question thou.
[12:03] <knome> not really...
[12:03] <knome> maybe you should tell us what you are thinking and we can tell if it's possible
[12:03] <knome> and whether we want to include it
[12:05] <HaloSponge> thats just control, not interested now.
[12:06] <knome> tough luck then :)
[12:06] <pavlushka> HaloSponge, goto https://www.fairylandgame.com/, they are giving free Easter-eggs, just use xenial, thats it
[12:07] <HaloSponge> pavlushka: That's a facehok app website, not interested :(
[12:07]  * HaloSponge doesn't facebook
[12:08] <pavlushka> knome, should I reboot?
[12:08] <knome> pavlushka, you can try running "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal and see if it gives you errors; if not, the notification should disappear as well
[12:09] <pavlushka> W: gpgv:/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_damien-moore_codeblocks-stable_ubuntu_dists_xenial_InRelease: The repository is insufficiently signed by key 993D634ED0E1A56F786F5B8F87BB07B4C99E40E1 (weak digest)
[12:09] <pavlushka> W: gpgv:/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_rebuntu16_avidemux+unofficial_ubuntu_dists_xenial_InRelease: The repository is insufficiently signed by key 1DB97831F2CB20F9DB8FFDE9191A0DD498F78EB3 (weak digest)
[12:09] <pavlushka> W: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/c.falco/mame/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
[12:09] <pavlushka> N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.
[12:09] <pavlushka> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
[12:09] <pavlushka> W: gpgv:/var/lib/apt/lists/panthema.net_repo_debian_dists_squeeze_Release.gpg: The repository is insufficiently signed by key 1A0CC16F04D7CE0E03775095B7B702B5F4EF04FA (weak digest)
[12:10] <knome> !pastebin | pavlushka 
[12:10] <knome> pavlushka, well, there you see the problem you are having
[12:10] <pavlushka> yes
[12:11] <pavlushka> I just imported my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS gpg keys to this system today.
[12:13] <pavlushka> ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15471651/
[12:13] <pavlushka> So what do I do know?
[12:14] <knome> this is not exactly related to testing, but for that purpose and to get rid of the notification, you can try readding your PPAs.
[12:14] <knome> but i also see you are using a repository designed for debian; fwiw, we don't support doing that
[12:16] <pavlushka> no, just asking for that notification, and if the repos creating problems, I am happy to remove those.
[12:16] <knome> the repositories are essentially giving you that error, yes
[12:17] <knome> the output you got explicitly explains you what the problem is
[12:17] <pavlushka> alrighty, should I re-add or remove the weak signed PPAs?
[12:18] <pavlushka> except the debian one.
[12:18] <knome> use your common sense please...
[12:18] <knome> if you want to keep using them, you can try readding
[12:18] <knome> if you don't mind, remove them
[12:18] <knome> removing them *will* get rid of the notification
[12:18] <pavlushka> sorry for the bother, knome 
[12:18] <knome> readding might
[12:19] <pavlushka> humbly appreciated
[12:21] <krytarik> LP bug 1558331.
[12:30] <bluesabre> knome, thanks. Final freeze is in effect, so that gives us a chance to play with it before uploading
[12:31] <bluesabre> Er, final beta freeze
[12:31] <bluesabre> :D
[12:31] <bluesabre> bbl
[12:32] <knome> lol
[12:32] <flocculant> knome: firefox > http://i.imgur.com/KTpHOGw.png not quite so bad in chromium > http://i.imgur.com/qos9ywq.png
[12:32] <knome> or then we can ask for an exception and actually get the docs in the beta for people to look at
[12:32] <knome> indeed
[12:32] <knome> weird
[12:33] <flocculant> not even I would call those ellipses ... 
[12:33] <knome> hahah
[12:33] <flocculant> bluesabre: yep - breeze blew away ;)
[12:36] <knome> flocculant, your take on importance to get docs i b2?
[12:37] <knome> *in
[12:38] <knome> flocculant, bluesabre: ultimately, the change just fixes a FTBFS and drops a part of the stuff we were building, so i'm not even sure if the freeze affects it much
[12:38] <bluesabre> flocculant: that's a breath of fresh air
[12:38] <bluesabre> knome, right
[12:39] <bluesabre> Probably meant to say, archive is frozen for b2
[12:39] <knome> as long as you get an ack from flocculant to cause a respin :P
[12:39] <bluesabre> Ah
[12:39] <bluesabre> Fair point
[12:39] <flocculant> knome which docs? 
[12:39] <bluesabre> I'll work to get it uploaded tonight then
[12:39] <knome> flocculant, xubuntu-docs
[12:39] <bluesabre> bbl
[12:40] <flocculant> bluesabre: if you upload something tonight - do a respin once it's available please
[12:40] <flocculant> no idea how much global spinning will go on - so if we've got something *now* go for it I'd fsay
[12:40] <knome> we do
[12:41] <flocculant> knome: I thought those docs were in the image anyway? 
[12:41] <flocculant> contr stuff is ood 
[12:41] <flocculant> oh reading backlog a bit - that's what you're talking about :p
[12:42] <knome> :D
[12:42] <knome> yes...
[12:42] <knome> welcome to today!
[12:42] <flocculant> well - only get 30 minutes lunch ;)
[12:42] <flocculant> right so - not overly concerned about contr stuff in image - online is current
[12:43] <flocculant> but if we have something else at the same time - then go for it
[12:43] <knome> sure, but docs FTBFS, so we don't have anything in the ISO
[12:43] <flocculant> oh right 
[12:43] <knome> so this fixes the FTBFS and also drops contributor
[12:43] <flocculant> not had time to zsync yet
[12:43] <knome> well it has been ongoing for a few days
[12:43] <flocculant> drops contr? 
[12:43] <knome> from the ISO
[12:44] <knome> as we discussed... :P
[12:44] <flocculant> but tells people where contr stuff is? 
[12:44] <flocculant> well yea I know we discussed it :p
[12:44] <knome> well... it points to "Get Involved"
[12:44] <knome> which has a direct link to the contributor stuff
[12:45] <flocculant> at the bottom after people get bored with the top ... 
[12:45] <knome> i got to go cook some food now; if you definitely want something else there, tell me :P
[12:45] <flocculant> not even going there at the moment :p
[12:45] <flocculant> now got 20 minutes :)
[12:46] <knome> we can change the website
[12:46] <flocculant> yea ofc
[12:46] <flocculant> fix the iso docs 
[12:46] <knome> maybe it would be a good idea to do so, but it looks like it needs some slight rewriting
[12:46] <flocculant> we can fiddle about at leisure 
[12:46] <knome> bluesabre, ^ there you go, but of course, it would be nice if you asked -release before uploading too
[12:46] <knome> bluesabre, (that said, i'm sure they will ack the request)
[12:48] <flocculant> knome: not sure why you think docs on iso are fubar? 
[12:49] <flocculant> I had synced - the docs look fine 
[13:41] <knome> flocculant, because FTBFS
[13:41] <knome> flocculant, but good that they are fine...
[13:42] <knome> flocculant, are the PDFs even there?
[15:03] <akxwi-dave> hmmm anyone got this error on VM launching the new Beta..  http://imgur.com/MsQ2Ltu
[15:05] <davmor2> akxwi-dave: yes breakage in vte
[15:05] <akxwi-dave> phew.. not just me then..  :-)
[15:09] <akxwi-dave> ahhhh just seen all the other crashes.. should really refresh web pages when i have had them open for a few hours..
[15:14] <davmor2> akxwi-dave: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1560459 if you want to follow along
[15:16] <akxwi-dave> ta.. also looks like bug 1560356 has been started as well
[16:58] <knome> slickymaster, You can easily change your desktop wallpaper by navigating to <application><menuchoice><placeholder-1/><guimenuitem><placeholder-2/> Settings Manager</guimenuitem><guimenuitem>Desktop</guimenuitem></menuchoice></application>, or alternatively, by right clicking on your desktop and selecting the <menuchoice><guimenuitem>Desktop Settings...</guimenuitem></menuchoice> option. Where you have
[16:58] <knome>  multiple workspaces, you can choose to have the same wallpaper across all workspaces, or by deselecting <literal>Apply to all workspaces</literal> and moving the dialogue to the next workspace selecting a different wallpaper
[16:59] <knome> slickymaster, that probably needs "...workpaces, or use a different wallpaper for each workspace by deselecting..." and a period at the end of the sentence
[17:00] <knome> slickymaster, With multiple monitors, this setting will only change the primary monitor's wallpaper. To change the wallpaper for other monitors, you will need to use the dialog as described above.
[17:00] <knome> slickymaster, this could be improved too
[17:11] <knome> slickymaster, Navigate to <application><menuchoice><placeholder-1/><guimenuitem>Software</guimenuitem><guimenuitem>App menu</guimenuitem><guimenuitem>Software Sources</guimenuitem></menuchoice></application> and select the <guilabel>Updates</guilabel> tab. In the <guilabel>Updates</guilabel> tab, select either <guilabel>For any new version</guilabel> or <guilabel>For long-term support versions</guilab
[17:11] <knome> el> from the <guilabel>Notify me of a new Ubuntu version</guilabel> dropdown depending on your choice.
[17:11] <knome> flocculant, is that up-to-date?
[17:46] <flocculant> knome: yea pdf's are there.
[17:47] <knome> hmm.
[17:47] <knome> well..
[17:49] <flocculant> knome: re the above http://i.imgur.com/gX8kd9R.png
[17:50] <flocculant> I think that's the same as you've written :p
[17:50] <knome> flocculant, no
[17:50] <knome> flocculant, i believe that tells you to get there by gnome software
[17:51] <flocculant> you can do that
[17:51] <knome> i can't, i checked and i don't have that menu
[17:51] <flocculant> http://i.imgur.com/JkeYcv4.png
[17:51] <knome> in gnome software, i only have "software & updates", not "software sources"
[17:52] <knome> well yeah, but the menu path is wrong then
[17:52] <flocculant> right
[17:52] <flocculant> well I don't imagine that'll change now
[17:53] <knome> <!ENTITY gnome-software-properties '<application><menuchoice>&appmenu;<guimenuitem>Software</guimenuitem><guimenuitem>App menu</guimenuitem><guimenuitem>Software Sources</guimenuitem></menuchoice></application>' >
[17:53] <flocculant> it was software sources at one point I think
[17:53] <knome> ok, updated that
[17:53] <knome> i'm sure it was
[17:53] <knome> (seriously, no trolling)
[17:53] <flocculant> :)
[17:53] <knome> i've been gathering a good MP
[17:53] <knome> ...
[17:54] <knome> well, a batch of fixed bugs
[17:54] <flocculant> for? 
[17:54] <knome> docs
[17:54] <flocculant> cool
[17:54] <knome> found while translating..
[17:55]  * flocculant is trying to backtrack to get fixed bugs on things since 15.10 released for the notes
[17:55] <flocculant> figure if I get the note base complete now - easy peasy when real release is tomorrow :p
[17:56] <knome> :)
[17:56] <knome> mousepad search highlights are easier to see!!!
[17:56] <flocculant> yea :D
[17:56] <flocculant> will probably assume release notes are for 14.04 upgrade to 16.04 for what's changed
[17:57] <knome> mostly
[17:57] <flocculant> people who've changed between will already be aware
[17:57] <flocculant> not bugs though ... 
[17:57] <knome> yeah, it's a delicate balance i think
[17:57] <knome> but since we recommend the LTS version...
[17:57] <flocculant> yea -my starting position is if people are that interested in all the bug fixes in 2 years they can look them up
[17:58] <flocculant> but for what's changed - we should have them there 
[17:58] <knome> yep
[18:09] <knome> not necessarily something for now (though i might be irritated enough to do it anyway), but we likely want to avoid saying "gnome software" everywhere where we talk about installing
[18:10] <knome> not only because the finnish translation looks silly
[18:10] <knome> :P
[18:19] <flocculant> well I would be laidback about just calling it software anyway
[18:19] <knome> what i mean is that there is no specific reason to repeat the default package manager name anyway
[18:26] <knome> i pushed the fixes, updated translation templates and requested a one-time import
[18:26] <knome> let's see how swift it is this time...
[18:28] <flocculant> ~:)
[18:36] <flocculant> knome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/ReleaseNoteBase is where I am at the moment
[18:37] <flocculant> rather more detail than we've ever had before I think
[18:39] <knome> looks okay to me
[18:39] <knome> though i might be a bit unfocused
[18:39] <knome> obviously some cleanup and such
[18:41] <flocculant> yup
[18:45] <knome> omg
[18:45] <knome> typo in the typo  fix
[18:45] <knome> GEEZERS
[18:58] <flocculant> :)
[19:24] <knome> ok, should have fixed the brainfarts
[19:24] <knome> and 40 strings left to translate :|
[19:26] <knome> ...no
[19:26] <knome> how am i such an idiot
[19:29] <pleia2> knome: should probably announce backgrounds thing today
[19:30] <knome> ^ see above, definitely should
[19:30] <pleia2> I will move our etherpad draft to wordpress
[19:30] <knome> shall we do that right now?
[19:30] <knome> thanks
[19:30] <pleia2> yeah
[19:30] <knome> i'll clear the contest site
[19:30] <pleia2> ty
[19:31] <knome> ok, done
[19:31] <knome> anything else we need to do or just go?
[19:32] <pleia2> knome: draft saved, see https://xubuntu.org/?p=3777
[19:32] <pleia2> can prettify or whatever you want
[19:34] <pleia2> knome: oh, need a stub as well for front page of x.o, can you do that and hit publish when you're happy?
[19:34] <knome> i can
[19:34] <knome> just a sec and i'll check the article first
[19:35]  * pleia2 nods
[19:37] <knome> ok, updated the draft, please see
[19:37] <pleia2> lgtm
[19:38] <knome> ok, so let's see how this looks when published :P
[19:39] <knome> ok, lookie at frontpage
[19:40] <knome> ok, added a note about winner count
[19:42] <knome> updated excerpt too
[19:42] <knome> (and again, s/Xubutnu/Xubuntu/)
[19:42] <knome> ready to social media?
[19:48] <knome> well i really shouldn't be fixing typos today, judging by the commit message typos alone
[19:53] <krytarik> hahaha
[20:02] <knome> mmkay, a few more strings are translated to finnish now
[20:03] <knome> pleia2?
[20:03] <knome> bbiab
[20:24] <flocculant> still think we've missed a trick not having the community involved in which 6 get picked
[20:25]  * knome gives a blank face stare back
[20:25] <flocculant> perhaps we should do something like - 6 get picked, x of which the community can choose, the remainder by the team
[20:26] <flocculant> knome can do that as much as he likes - I still think that we're wrong not doing so
[20:26] <knome> not doing what? blank face? :P
[20:26] <knome> i get what you are saying, i just don't have a strong opinion and this is the way we did it the last time, so...
[20:27] <flocculant> poor reasoning there ;)
[20:27] <knome> i'm trying to avoid even reasoning, and ultimately avoiding an argument
[20:27] <knome> :P
[20:27] <flocculant> at some point we must have changed from synaptic to USC - look where that got us ... 
[20:28] <flocculant> so basically what you're saying is that a couple of us will choose - ignoring the rest of both the community and the rest of team 
[20:28] <knome> the contest site allows us to pick any LP team to be eligible to vote, so i consider my part done - if we decide to let community pick
[20:28] <knome> or the team, or whatever
[20:29] <knome> don't get me wrong, i'm not saying "i don't care"... but it isn't a huge thing to me did we decide to go A or B
[20:29] <flocculant> well somehow someone somewhere has to make some decision here :)
[20:29] <knome> yep
[20:29]  * knome refers to the marketing and project leads
[20:30] <flocculant> I'd say bring it up in a meeting - but that's rather pointless :p 
[20:30]  * knome awards flocculant one point
[20:30] <flocculant> ha ha 
[20:31] <knome> the offline package management section is meh
[20:31] <flocculant> change it then
[20:31] <knome> you mean i can drop it?
[20:31]  * knome hides
[20:31] <knome> i'm not saying your version is meh
[20:31] <knome> i'm saying the whole thing is meh...
[20:31] <flocculant> just don't change it back to repeating itself once every 4 lines :p
[20:32] <knome> hah
[20:32] <flocculant> knome: perhaps it should be a wiki - then link to it from the docs
[20:32] <flocculant> loses a chapter 
[20:32] <knome> mmh
[20:32]  * knome shrugs
[20:32] <knome> again one of the things i don't care too much about, but since it's in... :D
[20:32]  * flocculant shrugs too 
[20:32] <flocculant> yea 
[20:33] <flocculant> I guess it'd not be there if skellat hadn't written it
[20:34] <knome> very much so
[20:34] <flocculant> seems very much a I do this so everyone needs to know thing :p
[20:34] <knome> well, it certainly can be useful
[20:35] <knome> if you are not connected at all times
[20:35] <flocculant> but it's in there now - and yes for some it can be useful
[20:36] <flocculant> not sure what we can do to make it less meh :p
[20:36] <pleia2> knome: sorry, was distracted
[20:36] <flocculant> evening pleia2 :)
[20:36] <pleia2> knome: looks good, starting social media wagon now
[20:36] <pleia2> flocculant o/
[20:39] <knome> pleia2, tweeted
[20:39] <pleia2> g+ and fbed
[20:39] <knome> f-bed
[21:31] <LibreSponge> Just 'nother day for, don't know about anyone else ?
[21:31] <LibreSponge> **Just another day for me , .....#
[21:31] <LibreSponge> sans #
[21:32] <knome> LibreSponge, if you don't have anything that is related to the xubuntu development, please take it elsewhere
[21:32] <LibreSponge> ok. soz.
[21:33] <LibreSponge> knome, Is there any chance the wiki could use Dokuwiki instead ?
[21:34] <knome> LibreSponge, the xubuntu wiki uses dokuwiki, the ubuntu wiki we have no control over.
[21:34] <LibreSponge> oh ok, sorry.
[21:34] <Unit193> And the Ubuntu wiki is far too big for dokuwiki.  There is talk about switching to MediaWiki though.
[21:35] <LibreSponge> Is there any mention of  xfPanel-Switch on the wiki ?
[21:36] <LibreSponge> I saw a video, but am scared to post it here.
[21:38] <knome> LibreSponge, we have #xubuntu-offtopic for a more relaxed discussion
[22:01] <bluesabre> flocculant, knome: in case this wasn't figured out, the failed -docs build did not replace the previous upload
[22:01] <bluesabre> hence no breakage and PDFs
[22:01] <flocculant> bluesabre: evening :) 
[22:01] <bluesabre> hey flocculant
[22:01] <flocculant> aah right :)
[22:02] <flocculant> bluesabre: the draft b2 release notes are looooong ... 
[22:02] <knome> right
[22:02] <knome> bluesabre, i've prepared the stuff in the branch, and it has some content fixes now as well...
[22:03] <flocculant> knome - can you look at the upgrade mail draft at the bottom of http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-xenial-release-notes
[22:03] <knome> sure
[22:03] <flocculant> does it make sense to you - trying to give people where we are on that
[22:03] <bluesabre> flocculant, knome: I'll take a look at everything a bit later, including the release notes and blog post
[22:03] <flocculant> bluesabre: link to the draft notes is at the top of that pad ^^
[22:04] <knome> bluesabre, cheerio
[22:04] <bluesabre> flocculant: thanks!
[22:04] <slickymaster> pleia2, will you please share https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2016-March/011082.html in xubuntu G+ account?
[22:04] <flocculant> evening slickymaster :)
[22:07] <pleia2> slickymaster: sure
[22:09] <slickymaster> thanks pleia2 
[22:10] <pleia2> slickymaster: done
[22:10] <slickymaster> :)
[22:10] <pleia2> did fb too
[22:12] <slickymaster> great
[22:12] <knome> flocculant, so when you use update-manager, the upgrade fails
[22:12] <knome> flocculant, but apparently you can still boot to it?
[22:12] <flocculant> yea 
[22:13] <knome> flocculant, what exactly is "broken" then?
[22:13] <flocculant> it boots, you might need root menu, you might be able to vt1
[22:13] <slickymaster> knome, I assume rev 571 already show those strings changed
[22:13] <knome> flocculant, yeah, so no GUI
[22:14] <flocculant> knome: not sure what's broken tbh - just that it hangs but you can finish it 
[22:14] <flocculant> knome: well I got a login screen - didn't actually bother looking to see if the desktop worked - was more interested in seeing if I could fix it
[22:15] <flocculant> given that it takes ages to do to get that far ... 
[22:15] <knome> yep
[22:19] <knome> flocculant, better?
[22:20] <flocculant> yea - that works - thanks :)
[22:20] <knome> np
[22:20] <flocculant> I've spent the last 2 hours in the release note - then forgot I promised this :D
[22:25] <knome> hahah
[22:25] <knome> that happens
[22:25] <flocculant> yup :)
[22:25] <flocculant> bluesabre: there is a note for you at the top of the pad :p
[22:26]  * flocculant wanders off into the night ... 
[22:26] <flocculant> night all :)
[22:27] <slickymaster> night flocculant 
[22:29] <pleia2> knome: oh, hah, we should share on the mailing lists too
[22:29] <pleia2> I will write quick emails now
[22:29]  * knome blinks
[22:29] <knome> can poke them if you want to put in pad
[22:30] <knome> or you can just write and send, i trust you
[22:30] <pleia2> I will just write and send, they will be short
[22:42] <knome> no submissions yet ;(
[22:59] <Nairwolf> hi guys, I have seen your mails recently. I should be able to do upgrade tests tomorrow with hardware, I will tell you what are the results
[22:59] <Nairwolf> I suppose with 14.04 I have to test with 14.04.4 ?