[07:06] thanks slickymaster :) [07:56] knome: on *our* wiki contact page the wiki and lp icons look truncated [08:17] bluesabre: elementary icons \o/ :) [08:18] bluesabre knome - got a pad started - have grabbed bits from 14.10 to 15.10 changes onto there for when we get to final release while I thought about that http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-xenial-release-notes [09:36] flocculant: it worked then? [09:38] flocculant: Have not dug into it much right now. :/ [10:22] Hi I am from Bangladesh, if there's anything for Bengali Translation?, actually I know there's may be huge things for Bengali translation. [10:23] I mean for the recent release. [10:23] I mean for the upcoming release. [10:27] pavlushka: it looks like the installer slideshow is mostly untranslated: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu [10:27] for more things to translate, see: http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/documentation.html#docs-packages [10:27] on it. [11:13] flocculant, at least i can't see that, so maybe you need to send a screenshot :) [11:18] bluesabre, so what exactly do we need to change to make sure the contributor docs do not build on the package? [11:19] the "all" target? [11:22] knome: Yes. [11:23] krytarik, thanks [11:23] let's see if i get there before my mom steps from the door [11:23] ín [11:23] ++ [11:23] one of these days again i see... [11:23] :D [11:27] knome: if I had to guess, drop "contributor-all" from https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/xenial/view/head:/Makefile#L29 [11:31] Also, to be more specific regarding my earlier suggestion on how to fix the current PDF build fails, we'd add the symlink creation and removal *around* the 'for' loop in the script. [11:32] krytarik, maybe you could prepare it somewhere [11:35] knome: I was going to offer providing a diff, if that'd be sufficient, yes. :P [11:36] please just provide the new file instead [11:36] as we've seen, playing with diffs can be dangerous :P [11:36] :D [11:44] knome: http://paste.openstack.org/show/lizRpEa1yNPsfjoGHhfV/ [11:45] morning o/ [11:49] bluesabre, lp:xubuntu-docs is updated for you to upload; bugs courtesy of krytarik [11:50] ;)= [11:50] err Hello [11:50] HaloSponge, hello [11:50] Morning morning, good mornings. [11:51] Im dating a vet ! [11:51] okay, how is that related to the xubuntu development? [11:52] sorry for that :) [11:53] no problem [11:54] Having problems with update. [11:55] although I am up-to-date but a notification is flashing, saying update information is outdated. [11:56] I am using Ubuntu Bangladesh server. [11:56] pavlushka, what it is saying is that you haven't ran "apt-get update" recently enough [11:58] it says, this could happen due to repository problem or network problem, but definitely not network as I connected to you. [12:00] and even the "sudo apt-get update" is working in the terminal as I re-run it to test. [12:02] How do I get an Easter-egg into Xubuntu 16.04 ? [12:03] HaloSponge, hmm? [12:03] simple question thou. [12:03] not really... [12:03] maybe you should tell us what you are thinking and we can tell if it's possible [12:03] and whether we want to include it [12:05] thats just control, not interested now. [12:06] tough luck then :) [12:06] HaloSponge, goto https://www.fairylandgame.com/, they are giving free Easter-eggs, just use xenial, thats it [12:07] pavlushka: That's a facehok app website, not interested :( [12:07] * HaloSponge doesn't facebook [12:08] knome, should I reboot? [12:08] pavlushka, you can try running "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal and see if it gives you errors; if not, the notification should disappear as well [12:09] W: gpgv:/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_damien-moore_codeblocks-stable_ubuntu_dists_xenial_InRelease: The repository is insufficiently signed by key 993D634ED0E1A56F786F5B8F87BB07B4C99E40E1 (weak digest) [12:09] W: gpgv:/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_rebuntu16_avidemux+unofficial_ubuntu_dists_xenial_InRelease: The repository is insufficiently signed by key 1DB97831F2CB20F9DB8FFDE9191A0DD498F78EB3 (weak digest) [12:09] W: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/c.falco/mame/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file. [12:09] N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use. [12:09] N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. [12:09] W: gpgv:/var/lib/apt/lists/panthema.net_repo_debian_dists_squeeze_Release.gpg: The repository is insufficiently signed by key 1A0CC16F04D7CE0E03775095B7B702B5F4EF04FA (weak digest) [12:10] !pastebin | pavlushka [12:10] pavlushka: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [12:10] pavlushka, well, there you see the problem you are having [12:10] yes [12:11] I just imported my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS gpg keys to this system today. [12:13] ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15471651/ [12:13] So what do I do know? [12:14] this is not exactly related to testing, but for that purpose and to get rid of the notification, you can try readding your PPAs. [12:14] but i also see you are using a repository designed for debian; fwiw, we don't support doing that [12:16] no, just asking for that notification, and if the repos creating problems, I am happy to remove those. [12:16] the repositories are essentially giving you that error, yes [12:17] the output you got explicitly explains you what the problem is [12:17] alrighty, should I re-add or remove the weak signed PPAs? [12:18] except the debian one. [12:18] use your common sense please... [12:18] if you want to keep using them, you can try readding [12:18] if you don't mind, remove them [12:18] removing them *will* get rid of the notification [12:18] sorry for the bother, knome [12:18] readding might [12:19] humbly appreciated [12:21] LP bug 1558331. [12:21] Launchpad bug 1558331 in apt (Ubuntu) "message "The repository is insufficiently signed by key (weak digest)" is poorly worded" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1558331 [12:30] knome, thanks. Final freeze is in effect, so that gives us a chance to play with it before uploading [12:31] Er, final beta freeze [12:31] :D [12:31] bbl [12:32] lol [12:32] knome: firefox > http://i.imgur.com/KTpHOGw.png not quite so bad in chromium > http://i.imgur.com/qos9ywq.png [12:32] or then we can ask for an exception and actually get the docs in the beta for people to look at [12:32] indeed [12:32] weird [12:33] not even I would call those ellipses ... [12:33] hahah [12:33] bluesabre: yep - breeze blew away ;) [12:36] flocculant, your take on importance to get docs i b2? [12:37] *in [12:38] flocculant, bluesabre: ultimately, the change just fixes a FTBFS and drops a part of the stuff we were building, so i'm not even sure if the freeze affects it much [12:38] flocculant: that's a breath of fresh air [12:38] knome, right [12:39] Probably meant to say, archive is frozen for b2 [12:39] as long as you get an ack from flocculant to cause a respin :P [12:39] Ah [12:39] Fair point [12:39] knome which docs? [12:39] I'll work to get it uploaded tonight then [12:39] flocculant, xubuntu-docs [12:39] bbl [12:40] bluesabre: if you upload something tonight - do a respin once it's available please [12:40] no idea how much global spinning will go on - so if we've got something *now* go for it I'd fsay [12:40] we do [12:41] knome: I thought those docs were in the image anyway? [12:41] contr stuff is ood [12:41] oh reading backlog a bit - that's what you're talking about :p [12:42] :D [12:42] yes... [12:42] welcome to today! [12:42] well - only get 30 minutes lunch ;) [12:42] right so - not overly concerned about contr stuff in image - online is current [12:43] but if we have something else at the same time - then go for it [12:43] sure, but docs FTBFS, so we don't have anything in the ISO [12:43] oh right [12:43] so this fixes the FTBFS and also drops contributor [12:43] not had time to zsync yet [12:43] well it has been ongoing for a few days [12:43] drops contr? [12:43] from the ISO [12:44] as we discussed... :P [12:44] but tells people where contr stuff is? [12:44] well yea I know we discussed it :p [12:44] well... it points to "Get Involved" [12:44] which has a direct link to the contributor stuff [12:45] at the bottom after people get bored with the top ... [12:45] i got to go cook some food now; if you definitely want something else there, tell me :P [12:45] not even going there at the moment :p [12:45] now got 20 minutes :) [12:46] we can change the website [12:46] yea ofc [12:46] fix the iso docs [12:46] maybe it would be a good idea to do so, but it looks like it needs some slight rewriting [12:46] we can fiddle about at leisure [12:46] bluesabre, ^ there you go, but of course, it would be nice if you asked -release before uploading too [12:46] bluesabre, (that said, i'm sure they will ack the request) [12:48] knome: not sure why you think docs on iso are fubar? [12:49] I had synced - the docs look fine [13:41] flocculant, because FTBFS [13:41] flocculant, but good that they are fine... [13:42] flocculant, are the PDFs even there? [15:03] hmmm anyone got this error on VM launching the new Beta.. http://imgur.com/MsQ2Ltu [15:05] akxwi-dave: yes breakage in vte [15:05] phew.. not just me then.. :-) [15:09] ahhhh just seen all the other crashes.. should really refresh web pages when i have had them open for a few hours.. [15:14] akxwi-dave: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1560459 if you want to follow along [15:14] Launchpad bug 1560459 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with GLib.GError in customize_installer(): vte-pty-error: grantpt failed: Operation not permitted (1)" [Critical,Confirmed] [15:16] ta.. also looks like bug 1560356 has been started as well [15:16] bug 1560459 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1560356 ubiquity crashed with GLib.GError in customize_installer(): vte-pty-error: grantpt failed: Operation not permitted (1)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560459 === HaloSponge is now known as FreeSponge === FreeSponge is now known as LibreSponge === link is now known as mexchip [16:58] slickymaster, You can easily change your desktop wallpaper by navigating to

Settings Manager

Desktop

, or alternatively, by right clicking on your desktop and selecting the Desktop Settings... option. Where you have [16:58] multiple workspaces, you can choose to have the same wallpaper across all workspaces, or by deselecting Apply to all workspaces and moving the dialogue to the next workspace selecting a different wallpaper [16:59] slickymaster, that probably needs "...workpaces, or use a different wallpaper for each workspace by deselecting..." and a period at the end of the sentence [17:00] slickymaster, With multiple monitors, this setting will only change the primary monitor's wallpaper. To change the wallpaper for other monitors, you will need to use the dialog as described above. [17:00] slickymaster, this could be improved too [17:11] slickymaster, Navigate to

SoftwareApp menuSoftware Sources

and select the Updates tab. In the Updates tab, select either For any new version or For long-term support versions el> from the Notify me of a new Ubuntu version dropdown depending on your choice. [17:11] flocculant, is that up-to-date? [17:46] knome: yea pdf's are there. [17:47] hmm. [17:47] well.. [17:49] knome: re the above http://i.imgur.com/gX8kd9R.png [17:50] I think that's the same as you've written :p [17:50] flocculant, no [17:50] flocculant, i believe that tells you to get there by gnome software [17:51] you can do that [17:51] i can't, i checked and i don't have that menu [17:51] http://i.imgur.com/JkeYcv4.png [17:51] in gnome software, i only have "software & updates", not "software sources" [17:52] well yeah, but the menu path is wrong then [17:52] right [17:52] well I don't imagine that'll change now [17:53] &appmenu;SoftwareApp menuSoftware Sources' > [17:53] it was software sources at one point I think [17:53] ok, updated that [17:53] i'm sure it was [17:53] (seriously, no trolling) [17:53] :) [17:53] i've been gathering a good MP [17:53] ... [17:54] well, a batch of fixed bugs [17:54] for? [17:54] docs [17:54] cool [17:54] found while translating.. [17:55] * flocculant is trying to backtrack to get fixed bugs on things since 15.10 released for the notes [17:55] figure if I get the note base complete now - easy peasy when real release is tomorrow :p [17:56] :) [17:56] mousepad search highlights are easier to see!!! [17:56] yea :D [17:56] will probably assume release notes are for 14.04 upgrade to 16.04 for what's changed [17:57] mostly [17:57] people who've changed between will already be aware [17:57] not bugs though ... [17:57] yeah, it's a delicate balance i think [17:57] but since we recommend the LTS version... [17:57] yea -my starting position is if people are that interested in all the bug fixes in 2 years they can look them up [17:58] but for what's changed - we should have them there [17:58] yep [18:09] not necessarily something for now (though i might be irritated enough to do it anyway), but we likely want to avoid saying "gnome software" everywhere where we talk about installing [18:10] not only because the finnish translation looks silly [18:10] :P [18:19] well I would be laidback about just calling it software anyway [18:19] what i mean is that there is no specific reason to repeat the default package manager name anyway [18:26] i pushed the fixes, updated translation templates and requested a one-time import [18:26] let's see how swift it is this time... [18:28] ~:) [18:36] knome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/ReleaseNoteBase is where I am at the moment [18:37] rather more detail than we've ever had before I think [18:39] looks okay to me [18:39] though i might be a bit unfocused [18:39] obviously some cleanup and such [18:41] yup [18:45] omg [18:45] typo in the typo fix [18:45] GEEZERS [18:58] :) [19:24] ok, should have fixed the brainfarts [19:24] and 40 strings left to translate :| [19:26] ...no [19:26] how am i such an idiot [19:29] knome: should probably announce backgrounds thing today [19:30] ^ see above, definitely should [19:30] I will move our etherpad draft to wordpress [19:30] shall we do that right now? [19:30] thanks [19:30] yeah [19:30] i'll clear the contest site [19:30] ty [19:31] ok, done [19:31] anything else we need to do or just go? [19:32] knome: draft saved, see https://xubuntu.org/?p=3777 [19:32] can prettify or whatever you want [19:34] knome: oh, need a stub as well for front page of x.o, can you do that and hit publish when you're happy? [19:34] i can [19:34] just a sec and i'll check the article first [19:35] * pleia2 nods [19:37] ok, updated the draft, please see [19:37] lgtm [19:38] ok, so let's see how this looks when published :P [19:39] ok, lookie at frontpage [19:40] ok, added a note about winner count [19:42] updated excerpt too [19:42] (and again, s/Xubutnu/Xubuntu/) [19:42] ready to social media? [19:48] well i really shouldn't be fixing typos today, judging by the commit message typos alone [19:53] hahaha [20:02] mmkay, a few more strings are translated to finnish now [20:03] pleia2? [20:03] bbiab [20:24] still think we've missed a trick not having the community involved in which 6 get picked [20:25] * knome gives a blank face stare back [20:25] perhaps we should do something like - 6 get picked, x of which the community can choose, the remainder by the team [20:26] knome can do that as much as he likes - I still think that we're wrong not doing so [20:26] not doing what? blank face? :P [20:26] i get what you are saying, i just don't have a strong opinion and this is the way we did it the last time, so... [20:27] poor reasoning there ;) [20:27] i'm trying to avoid even reasoning, and ultimately avoiding an argument [20:27] :P [20:27] at some point we must have changed from synaptic to USC - look where that got us ... [20:28] so basically what you're saying is that a couple of us will choose - ignoring the rest of both the community and the rest of team [20:28] the contest site allows us to pick any LP team to be eligible to vote, so i consider my part done - if we decide to let community pick [20:28] or the team, or whatever [20:29] don't get me wrong, i'm not saying "i don't care"... but it isn't a huge thing to me did we decide to go A or B [20:29] well somehow someone somewhere has to make some decision here :) [20:29] yep [20:29] * knome refers to the marketing and project leads [20:30] I'd say bring it up in a meeting - but that's rather pointless :p [20:30] * knome awards flocculant one point [20:30] ha ha [20:31] the offline package management section is meh [20:31] change it then [20:31] you mean i can drop it? [20:31] * knome hides [20:31] i'm not saying your version is meh [20:31] i'm saying the whole thing is meh... [20:31] just don't change it back to repeating itself once every 4 lines :p [20:32] hah [20:32] knome: perhaps it should be a wiki - then link to it from the docs [20:32] loses a chapter [20:32] mmh [20:32] * knome shrugs [20:32] again one of the things i don't care too much about, but since it's in... :D [20:32] * flocculant shrugs too [20:32] yea [20:33] I guess it'd not be there if skellat hadn't written it [20:34] very much so [20:34] seems very much a I do this so everyone needs to know thing :p [20:34] well, it certainly can be useful [20:35] if you are not connected at all times [20:35] but it's in there now - and yes for some it can be useful [20:36] not sure what we can do to make it less meh :p [20:36] knome: sorry, was distracted [20:36] evening pleia2 :) [20:36] knome: looks good, starting social media wagon now [20:36] flocculant o/ [20:39] pleia2, tweeted [20:39] g+ and fbed [20:39] f-bed [21:31] Just 'nother day for, don't know about anyone else ? [21:31] **Just another day for me , .....# [21:31] sans # [21:32] LibreSponge, if you don't have anything that is related to the xubuntu development, please take it elsewhere [21:32] ok. soz. [21:33] knome, Is there any chance the wiki could use Dokuwiki instead ? [21:34] LibreSponge, the xubuntu wiki uses dokuwiki, the ubuntu wiki we have no control over. [21:34] oh ok, sorry. [21:34] And the Ubuntu wiki is far too big for dokuwiki. There is talk about switching to MediaWiki though. [21:35] Is there any mention of xfPanel-Switch on the wiki ? [21:36] I saw a video, but am scared to post it here. [21:38] LibreSponge, we have #xubuntu-offtopic for a more relaxed discussion [22:01] flocculant, knome: in case this wasn't figured out, the failed -docs build did not replace the previous upload [22:01] hence no breakage and PDFs [22:01] bluesabre: evening :) [22:01] hey flocculant [22:01] aah right :) [22:02] bluesabre: the draft b2 release notes are looooong ... [22:02] right [22:02] bluesabre, i've prepared the stuff in the branch, and it has some content fixes now as well... [22:03] knome - can you look at the upgrade mail draft at the bottom of http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-xenial-release-notes [22:03] sure [22:03] does it make sense to you - trying to give people where we are on that [22:03] flocculant, knome: I'll take a look at everything a bit later, including the release notes and blog post [22:03] bluesabre: link to the draft notes is at the top of that pad ^^ [22:04] bluesabre, cheerio [22:04] flocculant: thanks! [22:04] pleia2, will you please share https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2016-March/011082.html in xubuntu G+ account? [22:04] evening slickymaster :) [22:07] slickymaster: sure [22:09] thanks pleia2 [22:10] slickymaster: done [22:10] :) [22:10] did fb too [22:12] great [22:12] flocculant, so when you use update-manager, the upgrade fails [22:12] flocculant, but apparently you can still boot to it? [22:12] yea [22:13] flocculant, what exactly is "broken" then? [22:13] it boots, you might need root menu, you might be able to vt1 [22:13] knome, I assume rev 571 already show those strings changed [22:13] flocculant, yeah, so no GUI [22:14] knome: not sure what's broken tbh - just that it hangs but you can finish it [22:14] knome: well I got a login screen - didn't actually bother looking to see if the desktop worked - was more interested in seeing if I could fix it [22:15] given that it takes ages to do to get that far ... [22:15] yep [22:19] flocculant, better? [22:20] yea - that works - thanks :) [22:20] np [22:20] I've spent the last 2 hours in the release note - then forgot I promised this :D [22:25] hahah [22:25] that happens [22:25] yup :) [22:25] bluesabre: there is a note for you at the top of the pad :p [22:26] * flocculant wanders off into the night ... [22:26] night all :) [22:27] night flocculant [22:29] knome: oh, hah, we should share on the mailing lists too [22:29] I will write quick emails now [22:29] * knome blinks [22:29] can poke them if you want to put in pad [22:30] or you can just write and send, i trust you [22:30] I will just write and send, they will be short [22:42] no submissions yet ;( [22:59] hi guys, I have seen your mails recently. I should be able to do upgrade tests tomorrow with hardware, I will tell you what are the results [22:59] I suppose with 14.04 I have to test with 14.04.4 ?