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| mgraesslin | good morning | 06:45 |
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| yofel | moin | 08:02 |
| soee_ | hiho yofel | 08:08 |
| vip | hi ho | 08:56 |
| vip | do you hate kmail2 as much as I do? | 08:56 |
| soee_ | -.- | 08:57 |
| soee_ | i do not know i'm not using it | 08:57 |
| soee_ | maybe if the interface would be simpler and more user friendly | 08:58 |
| soee_ | i'm on thunderbird for a long time | 08:58 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:21 |
| mparillo | !testers | 10:23 |
| ubottu | Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information | 10:23 |
| mparillo | New beta images are up: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/358/builds | 10:24 |
| vip | got it! | 10:25 |
| mparillo | vip: You must have a better connection. My zsync is running about 2.3 MB/sec | 10:27 |
| vip | got it... for testing :) | 10:28 |
| vip | 8MB/s here, quite fast | 10:29 |
| vip | still downloading | 10:29 |
| vip | but as I see, there's still bugs | 10:31 |
| vip | installer not started, and the destop folder is too small | 10:31 |
| soee_ | woho new images | 10:42 |
| soee_ | zsynincg | 10:42 |
| soee_ | yiu have to good connections :< | 10:43 |
| vip | soee_: don't even start | 10:44 |
| soee_ | i have 1.2 MB/sec max | 10:45 |
| soee_ | vip: ping | 10:57 |
| vip | pong | 11:04 |
| soee_ | vip: did you testes new builds > | 11:08 |
| soee_ | teh bug with not starting ubuquite still exists no ? | 11:08 |
| clivejo | when I use dch to increment to a particular version, why is it signing the entry with the previous person? | 11:10 |
| vip | [11:31] <vip> installer not started, and the destop folder is too small | 11:11 |
| clivejo | if I use "dch --newversion 5.20.0" surely that should use my name and email in the changelog? | 11:24 |
| yofel | clivejo: that depends on what DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC is set to and whether the last changelog is UNRELEASED | 11:29 |
| clivejo | grrr | 11:33 |
| yofel | see manpage | 11:34 |
| clivejo | I have seen it | 11:35 |
| yofel | I think you want a different heuristic and --increment. Then you can make it add a new changelog in any case | 11:35 |
| clivejo | but it must be because the previous version is UNRELEASED | 11:36 |
| yofel | yes, but you can make it ignore that | 11:36 |
| * clivejo is trying to build frameworks from Neon/Unstable | 11:36 | |
| vip | soee_: and? | 11:37 |
| clivejo | I can do them manually, but was trying to hack the script (to better understand it) | 11:38 |
| yofel | ok wait | 11:39 |
| yofel | put DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC=log into ~/.devscripts and try again | 11:39 |
| clivejo | yofel: its not important, just playing about | 11:39 |
| yofel | well yes, but when I read maunally and script in one line I hear alarm bells :P | 11:40 |
| clivejo | is this command right "dch --newversion 5.20.0-0ubuntu1 -D xenial -m "New Upstream Release 5.20"" | 11:41 |
| yofel | although debchange handling is a bit annoying if you stray from the default workflow | 11:41 |
| yofel | wrong quoting, but otherwise yes | 11:41 |
| clivejo | whats the right way? | 11:42 |
| yofel | put single quotes around the changelog part | 11:42 |
| yofel | otherwise you have a syntax error | 11:43 |
| clivejo | still signing it off as you :( | 11:44 |
| clivejo | https://paste.kde.org/pskij4zlt | 11:45 |
| yofel | hm..... I've seen that happen actually.... | 11:45 |
| clivejo | there should be a --sign_as_me | 11:46 |
| * clivejo kicks dch | 11:47 | |
| yofel | according to the manpage, you have something set wrong, because that behavior is the last-resort-fallback | 11:47 |
| vip | what's the new email client for kde? I've read some news, but canno remember the name | 11:47 |
| soee_ | kmail :) | 11:48 |
| clivejo | kontact | 11:48 |
| clivejo | its released as a suite | 11:49 |
| vip | no no, not kmail | 11:49 |
| vip | new project | 11:49 |
| clivejo | Kube? | 11:50 |
| snele | vip: trojita? | 11:50 |
| snele | http://trojita.flaska.net/ | 11:50 |
| soee_ | it isnt new | 11:50 |
| clivejo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlLEiqjbw4A | 11:51 |
| clivejo | https://cmollekopf.wordpress.com/2016/01/23/the-year-of-kube/ | 11:52 |
| vip | oh, it was kube i suppose | 11:52 |
| clivejo | I dont think we will see anything for a while | 11:52 |
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| yofel | "Note that Akonadi Next has been renamed to Sink to avoid confusion" | 11:55 |
| yofel | yeah, I am totally less confused now | 11:55 |
| clivejo | me too | 11:55 |
| clivejo | crystal clear | 11:55 |
| vip | I would be very happy after uninstalling akonadi | 11:56 |
| clivejo | Im actually impressed with the lastest version | 11:56 |
| yofel | at least you'll be able to "flush your mails down the sink" in the future I guess | 11:56 |
| clivejo | seems a lot faster | 11:57 |
| clivejo | I have a lot of different accounts and it seems to retrieve and cache them a lot faster these days | 11:57 |
| clivejo | does anyone use diaspora? | 11:58 |
| soee_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJXgTsSgSP8 | 11:59 |
| soee_ | email client can be pretty nice | 12:00 |
| marco-parillo | I am running the new Beta RC now. Wireless works. Firefox works (but the Favorites menu is empty). It boots straight to the live session, instead of the choice to try / install. I prefer that behavior (since I run live sessions frequently (say for on-line banking), but only install once), but it does not match the test case. On my display the install icon is actually bigger than the desktop folder container. | 12:06 |
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| soee_ | marco-parillo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-settings/+bug/1560404 | 12:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1560404 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "Live session desktop uses to small folder view widget " [High,Triaged] | 12:13 |
| soee_ | and ye sit boots straight to live session = bug also | 12:13 |
| soee_ | it was reported in previous beta build and not ficed since then | 12:13 |
| marco-parillo | Thanks. soee_ I have added the bugs to my test report: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/358/builds | 12:17 |
| soee_ | marco-parillo: thank you | 12:18 |
| marco-parillo | As I wrote, I actually prefer to boot straight to the live session | 12:18 |
| marco-parillo | But it is a bug if the behavior does not match the test case (although, I suppose we could re-write the test case ;-) ) | 12:18 |
| soee_ | yup you shoudl find that one and add also | 12:20 |
| soee_ | marco-parillo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1560356 | 12:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1560459 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1560356 ubiquity crashed with GLib.GError in customize_installer(): vte-pty-error: grantpt failed: Operation not permitted (1)" [Critical,Confirmed] | 12:20 |
| soee_ | add this one, it was added for previous tests | 12:21 |
| soee_ | hmm | 12:21 |
| soee_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-settings/+bug/1560404 | 12:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1560404 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "Live session desktop uses to small folder view widget " [High,Triaged] | 12:21 |
| soee_ | ^ this one :D | 12:22 |
| soee_ | wait no | 12:22 |
| soee_ | it was the previous one | 12:22 |
| soee_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1560356 | 12:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1560459 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1560356 ubiquity crashed with GLib.GError in customize_installer(): vte-pty-error: grantpt failed: Operation not permitted (1)" [Critical,Confirmed] | 12:23 |
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| === claydoh_downunde is now known as claydoh_dwn_undr | ||
| marco-parillo | Thanks soee_ I had the other two, but I added bug 1560459 (which looks to be the root cause of not getting the try/install option) to my test results. | 12:28 |
| ubottu | bug 1560459 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with GLib.GError in customize_installer(): vte-pty-error: grantpt failed: Operation not permitted (1)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560459 | 12:29 |
| marco-parillo | Off to work. | 12:29 |
| BluesKaj | hiyas all | 12:48 |
| soee_ | hehe :D | 13:06 |
| soee_ | the comment http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-plasma-5-6-desktop-environment-officially-released-here-s-what-s-new-502046.shtml | 13:06 |
| yofel | as a general FYI: | 13:07 |
| yofel | mysql 5.7 was accepted in xenial and should be available soon (in case someone hits akonadi issues) | 13:07 |
| yofel | clivejo, sgclark: The cmake FFE got approved, so we'll soon get 3.4 or 3.5 in xenial. I did a rebuild of the core stuff myself and I think we're fine | 13:07 |
| yofel | fun indeed. RAAAAAAAAAAGE | 13:08 |
| BluesKaj | is the Xenial plasma 5.6 available yet ? | 13:09 |
| soee_ | yes! | 13:10 |
| mamarley | soee_: Uh, no. | 13:10 |
| * clivejo looks for his trout | 13:41 | |
| * mamarley hands clivejo a large, freshly-caught trout. | 13:42 | |
| * clivejo smiles | 13:43 | |
| clivejo | let do some trout slapping!# | 13:43 |
| clivejo | yofel: RAAAAAAAAAAGE ? | 13:46 |
| yofel | clivejo: in response to the softpedia comment | 14:00 |
| clivejo | plasma 5.6? | 14:02 |
| yofel | yup | 14:04 |
| clivejo | hows xenial shaping up? | 14:04 |
| yofel | mparillo, soee_: did one of you try the installer again? | 14:05 |
| soee_ | yofel: when ? | 14:06 |
| yofel | on the daily image | 14:06 |
| soee_ | i tried few hours ago when new builds were avaialbel | 14:06 |
| soee_ | it had the same bug | 14:06 |
| yofel | could you then please mark at least one of the install tests as failed? | 14:06 |
| yofel | currently it looks like there's no really major issues with the images | 14:07 |
| yofel | and unrelated to the iso images - anyone there that wants to do upgrade testing? The test cases are there now. (Both from 15.10 and 14.04) | 14:12 |
| yofel | except that the test case title is the wrong one o.O | 14:18 |
| yofel | (when did we last edit that?!?) | 14:18 |
| marco-parillo | yofel: The live image basically worked for me. I marked the three bugs here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/358/builds | 14:25 |
| yofel | were you able to successfully install it? | 14:25 |
| marco-parillo | I can try to kick off the installer from the live image if nobody has done that recently. | 14:25 |
| * yofel just updated the upgrade test cases | 14:26 | |
| yofel | or hm, I need to do this differently | 14:26 |
| yofel | there we go | 14:32 |
| genii | Is there yet a tentative timeline for plasma 5.6 in Xenial? | 14:50 |
| BluesKaj | it's avaiolable for 15.10 and but 15.10.totally broke on my pc after a kernel upgrade | 14:52 |
| mamarley | BluesKaj: It is? Are you talking about KDE Neon? | 14:53 |
| soee_ | genii: nope | 14:54 |
| genii | soee_: OK, thanks :) | 14:55 |
| BluesKaj | mamarley, nope, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports | 14:55 |
| mamarley | BluesKaj: Huh? I only see Plasma 5.5.4 for Wily and Plasma 5.3.2 for Vivid. | 14:57 |
| BluesKaj | mamarley, there was a kernel module installed for nvidia on my pc that broke X if that's what youwere referring to about 15.10 | 14:57 |
| BluesKaj | mamarley, click on tecnical details... | 14:58 |
| === JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose | ||
| sgclark | morning. Actually got 8 hours of sleep.. but I feel like I missed something, do we have shiny isos to test?! | 15:06 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning sgclark, I haven't seen anything "shiny" yet. | 15:17 |
| marco-parillo | sgclark: Yes, but I noted the same three bugs as yesterday at: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/358/builds | 15:18 |
| BluesKaj | with all the publicity about plasma 5.6 I'm surprised it hasn't "landed" in the Xenial ppas yet | 15:20 |
| mamarley | They are too busy working on the Xenial release. | 15:21 |
| sgclark | BluesKaj: we can work on shiny new stuff or actually release a stable LTS | 15:21 |
| sgclark | one or the other, too few to do both | 15:21 |
| sgclark | I choose stable LTS | 15:21 |
| * BluesKaj nods, understood, sgclark | 15:22 | |
| sgclark | I too like shiny stuff, and after release there will be lots. This being an LTS bumps stable importance | 15:22 |
| BluesKaj | OMG Ubuntu had alink saying it was available there | 15:23 |
| BluesKaj | backaports | 15:23 |
| sgclark | lol yeah I have no clue who their source is... | 15:23 |
| sgclark | not us obviously | 15:23 |
| mamarley | They probably pulled it out of their butts. Sites like that are just trying to make money from pageviews. | 15:23 |
| BluesKaj | any word about Kubuntu carrying on after 16.04 LTS? | 15:24 |
| yofel | well, we don't intend to vanish, and we'll have to support 16.04 for the next 5 years anyway | 15:31 |
| yofel | what exactly we'll be doing in the future is open though | 15:31 |
| sgclark | what yofel said | 15:31 |
| yofel | bug 1561051 is what I'm getting when I try to run the live session... | 15:31 |
| ubottu | bug 1561051 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity-DM dies on Kubuntu images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1561051 | 15:31 |
| yofel | I don't really get *what* fails here | 15:32 |
| yofel | On the positive side, the installer seems to work again | 15:35 |
| sgclark | gonna test on the new laptop donated to me! | 15:36 |
| sgclark | of course with my super awesome internet speeds this week, that will be in an hour :( | 15:38 |
| * sgclark drinks more coffee | 15:39 | |
| BluesKaj | sgclark, dsl ? | 15:39 |
| sgclark | comcast cable. absolutely horrible ISP but they have no competition... | 15:41 |
| yofel | why does our slideshow link to userbase.kde.org o.O | 15:42 |
| sgclark | wasn't that where we moved our doc or something? | 15:42 |
| BluesKaj | I could have a faster internet , but it's expensive here in the semi-boonies with no real competition for the cable co, so they charge thru the nose for 20Mb speeds | 15:42 |
| yofel | maybe, but don't we have website section for that? | 15:42 |
| sgclark | oh probably. wasn't ahoneybun the one that worked on the slideshow? | 15:43 |
| yofel | maybe... lets see what he has to say | 15:44 |
| yofel | hm... we have no default favorites in kickoff - I have the feeling that there are supposed to be some... | 15:49 |
| rdieter_work | yofel: fwiw, i've seen that occasionally for fresh users on fedora too, I suspect something going wrong with plasma-desktop script : ./desktoppackage/contents/updates/obsolete_kickoffrc.js (haven't filed any bug yet, but will soon) | 15:53 |
| yofel | rdieter_work: interesting, thanks. I *think* we have our own override of that, but the failure might still be the same | 15:54 |
| rdieter_work | yofel: well, we override the default favorites too, but seems that script botches things so it (often, not always?) ends up blank | 15:56 |
| yofel | meh | 15:57 |
| rdieter_work | if I remove that script, I see favorites appear reliably (on initial login) | 15:57 |
| rdieter_work | yofel: found already reported, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357029 | 16:05 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 357029 in Application Launcher (Kickoff) "Empty kickoff favorites menu on first start with new user/empty profile" [Minor,Unconfirmed] | 16:05 |
| yofel | thanks | 16:05 |
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| marco-parillo | yofel: Do you need a launchpad bug for KDE bug 357029? | 17:01 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 357029 in Application Launcher (Kickoff) "Empty kickoff favorites menu on first start with new user/empty profile" [Minor,Confirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357029 | 17:01 |
| yofel | probably not... I think that's obvious enough so that we won't forget about it | 17:02 |
| marco-parillo | Yes, I mentioned the missing favorites in my test report. | 17:03 |
| telegram | <athoneycutt>: We did move the docs to userbase before we had the website up though @Yofel | 18:43 |
| lordievader | No testers for i386? | 19:06 |
| lordievader | Lets give 32bit some love :D | 19:07 |
| === ubott2 is now known as ubottu | ||
| lordievader | The 32bit image also suffers from the desktop folder widget being very small. Is there a bug report for this? | 19:21 |
| lordievader | To answer my own question, bug 1560404 | 19:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1560404 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "Live session desktop uses to small folder view widget " [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560404 | 19:21 |
| keithzg | lordievader: I was planning on spinning up a VM and running some of the tests, I'll give i386 a shot then :) | 21:23 |
| lordievader | keithzg: Please do, was a bit too tired to do a full testing round. | 21:26 |
| * sgclark tries wily upgrade | 21:26 | |
| clivejo | does anyone use KVM? | 21:43 |
| sgclark | not really | 21:46 |
| clivejo | what you use? | 21:46 |
| sgclark | I think some of the kde servers do, but I am not involved in creating or handling it | 21:46 |
| sgclark | personally I use vagrant and docker | 21:46 |
| clivejo | Id reckon KVM would be closer to the actual machine | 21:47 |
| sgclark | and schroot | 21:47 |
| sgclark | virtualbox is what vagrant uses, and I don't see it as any different than hardware in most of my use cases | 21:47 |
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