| ric_s | Laney, mihall119, Are you there? Can you help me answer this question? | 00:33 |
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| ric_s | https://sourceforge.net/p/xoscope/bugs/20/#2eef | 00:33 |
| ric_s | mhall119 | 00:33 |
| sarnold | Trevinho: does 1552537 make any sense to you? two people report it on wily and xenial :/ | 00:45 |
| Trevinho | sarnold: I can't reproduce that as well... | 00:52 |
| sarnold | Trevinho: thanks for giving it a look. I've got a feeling that it's user-induced somehow -- it almost always is :) -- but these reports never have enough to go on :( | 00:52 |
| Trevinho | sarnold: sure, it's better to check. | 00:58 |
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| hikiko | hi | 05:56 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:15 |
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| willcooke | morning all | 09:03 |
| Laney | morning | 09:04 |
| davmor2 | Laney: guten tag | 09:10 |
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| Laney | hey davmor2 | 09:34 |
| Laney | wie gehts? | 09:34 |
| davmor2 | meh and it's too early in the morning for mehs | 09:41 |
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| davmor2 | and too late in the week too | 09:42 |
| Laney | it's all going to be A OK! | 09:44 |
| * Sweet5hark1 lols at the npm javascript jenga breakdown. | 10:08 | |
| Laney | oh cute, I'm seeing the new slideshow | 10:08 |
| Laney | is it me or should the gnome-software screenshot not have a bit of wallpaper on the rhs? | 10:08 |
| Laney | the others don't | 10:08 |
| willcooke | Laney, doh! | 10:19 |
| willcooke | you're right | 10:19 |
| * willcooke fires up gimp | 10:20 | |
| Laney | heh | 10:20 |
| willcooke | Laney, have you got that screenshot link handy? | 10:20 |
| willcooke | I can probably grep for it | 10:20 |
| Laney | VERY! | 10:20 |
| Laney | http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/g-s.png | 10:20 |
| willcooke | supe | 10:20 |
| willcooke | r | 10:20 |
| Laney | I don't visit many other website with "weird" in the url | 10:21 |
| willcooke | hah! | 10:21 |
| willcooke | I tried "laney" in mine, but nothing | 10:21 |
| * Laney is a clickbait nonclicker | 10:21 | |
| Sweet5hark1 | "Ten things that Laney made me click -- see if those links will make you click too!" | 10:22 |
| willcooke | You won't believe ten things laney doesn't click on | 10:23 |
| Laney | number 8 made me spit out my coffee! | 10:23 |
| willcooke | :D:D:D | 10:23 |
| Laney | "You have just inserted a medium" | 10:24 |
| Laney | #shitubuntusays | 10:24 |
| willcooke | urgh | 10:24 |
| * Laney is going to use said medium to look at the hidpi ubiquity session | 10:25 | |
| Laney | back shortly | 10:25 |
| Laney | realised that I don't have anywhere to install the thing to though which is a tad annoying | 10:26 |
| willcooke | can you repartition your drive? | 10:28 |
| willcooke | borrow 10GB from swap for a few hours? | 10:29 |
| darkxst | Laney, speaking of hidpi, plymouth upstream git now has hidpi support (but no release as yet) do we want to cherry-pick those patches? | 10:29 |
| Laney | darkxst: I know a-nothing, talk to slangasek maybe | 10:31 |
| Laney | have you tried it? | 10:31 |
| darkxst | Laney, I don't have a hidpi laptop, but ricotz says it works well | 10:31 |
| ricotz | Laney, darkxst, jfyi a package is locate here https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=xenial | 10:36 |
| willcooke | Laney, slideshow fix: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/revision/735 | 10:42 |
| willcooke | Laney, will MP it | 10:42 |
| Laney | thx | 10:45 |
| willcooke | cyphermox, sorry (again). Last one. I'm fairly sure this time ;) https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+merge/289880 | 10:46 |
| Laney | darkxst: ricotz: Suggest you speak to slangasek, IMO it would be nice but it's not my decision | 10:46 |
| desrt | good morning! | 11:00 |
| willcooke | hi desrt | 11:03 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: one partially successful install from pending \o/ | 11:06 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: now to see if oem kills it | 11:06 |
| willcooke | davmor2, what changed? | 11:06 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: I think infinity fixed the locale/glibc changes he made I could be wrong though | 11:07 |
| Laney | *I* fixed the locale problem and he fixed the vte one which was stopping ubiquity from launching | 11:08 |
| Laney | iz gud | 11:08 |
| Laney | what's up desrt | 11:10 |
| willcooke | desrt, Laney - any thoughts on this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunity/+bug/1538471 | 11:12 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1538471 in libunity (Ubuntu) "scope-runner-dbus.py assert failure: *** Error in `/usr/bin/python3': free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x0000000001ca17b0 ***" [Medium,Confirmed] | 11:12 |
| willcooke | jamesh thinks he's narrowed it down to gir | 11:13 |
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| davmor2 | Laney: you're awesome sir remind me to slap you less ;) | 11:45 |
| andyrock | hey all | 12:14 |
| willcooke | hi andyrock | 12:18 |
| andyrock | bad news we got a core file | 12:18 |
| andyrock | but it's empty | 12:18 |
| willcooke | ha | 12:19 |
| willcooke | useful | 12:19 |
| andyrock | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/P8dvdGBx/ | 12:19 |
| willcooke | handy | 12:19 |
| andyrock | but this error can be releated: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0. | 12:20 |
| andyrock | but still not sure if it's the cause or a result of the bug | 12:21 |
| willcooke | andyrock, whats next to try? | 12:23 |
| willcooke | hikiko mentioned that there were some broken packages as well? | 12:24 |
| hikiko | yes | 12:24 |
| andyrock | i'll try to save the core file and restore the snapshot | 12:24 |
| andyrock | likely we get a full bt | 12:25 |
| hikiko | andyrock, I've dist upgraded manually | 12:25 |
| Sweet5hark1 | <- out: dentist | 12:25 |
| hikiko | and I see many problems here and there | 12:25 |
| hikiko | I believe that if we fix broken packages/dependencies etc | 12:25 |
| hikiko | the session wont crash | 12:25 |
| hikiko | I'll note down the errors | 12:26 |
| hikiko | and send them to cyphermox | 12:26 |
| hikiko | he might be able to make more sense | 12:26 |
| hikiko | andyrock, I got no logs from the gui upgrade either | 12:26 |
| andyrock | mmm | 12:26 |
| hikiko | because the filesystem was corrupted after the crash | 12:27 |
| hikiko | it's very improbable | 12:27 |
| hikiko | that compiz causes this problem especially when the bug is "can't find libc" | 12:27 |
| andyrock | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1555237/comments/10 | 12:27 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1555237 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from 14.04.4→ 16.04 dies midway taking out the session." [Critical,In progress] | 12:27 |
| andyrock | here he's able to make the session crash just upgrading few packages | 12:28 |
| hikiko | could be helpful :) | 12:32 |
| hikiko | andyrock, | 12:34 |
| hikiko | tbh I don't understand how | 12:34 |
| hikiko | it points out a problem in compiz? | 12:34 |
| hikiko | how did he end up with these packages? | 12:35 |
| hikiko | insserv: warning: script 'cron' missing LSB tags and overrides | 12:36 |
| hikiko | I got this one too for another package | 12:36 |
| willcooke | for the record: It may indeed turn out to not be a problem in Compiz (quite likely in fact, but lets see) - however, the point here is not to rule out compiz but to narrow it down to what *is* causing the problem so that we can get it fixed. | 12:36 |
| hikiko | (willcooke's comment) | 12:36 |
| hikiko | that looks much more relevant | 12:36 |
| hikiko | to the error | 12:36 |
| hikiko | I believe that we have to fix the packages anyway | 12:37 |
| hikiko | what I would do | 12:37 |
| hikiko | is to dist-upgrade manually | 12:37 |
| hikiko | and fix every broken package | 12:37 |
| hikiko | every time it stops with an error | 12:37 |
| hikiko | and then try the visual upgrade | 12:38 |
| hikiko | the problem is | 12:38 |
| hikiko | I don't know how to do the fixes at all :/ | 12:38 |
| hikiko | if someone could help on that | 12:38 |
| hikiko | we could make sure that there aren't any upgrade blockers | 12:39 |
| hikiko | when I perform the visual upgrade something is so broken that causes a kernel panic | 12:39 |
| hikiko | and the error is that there's no root fs | 12:40 |
| hikiko | without a proper fs | 12:40 |
| hikiko | it's impossible to retrieve any other info | 12:40 |
| hikiko | plus we ll have to fix the packages anyway | 12:40 |
| hikiko | because we would like the user to be able to complete the dist-upgrase | 12:40 |
| hikiko | upgrade* | 12:40 |
| andyrock | well the kernel panic can be a result of a unity crash | 12:46 |
| andyrock | because the unity crash can cause an X crash | 12:46 |
| andyrock | so if you leave the upgrade in a bad moment you can get a kernel crash | 12:47 |
| cyphermox | hikiko: things do *not* stop with an error. As the dist-upgrade gets done, compiz crashes and the session gets taken down before you can finish the upgrade, and it would continue if only there was still X to display prompts | 12:48 |
| cyphermox | hikiko: you may use an older image to test that, or a newer one than 20160322 provided that glibc was fixed | 12:48 |
| cyphermox | ie. glibc is a different issue that is already being fixed | 12:49 |
| Laney | s/being// | 12:49 |
| Laney | on the latest one anyway | 12:49 |
| hikiko | cyphermox, which images you suggest I use? | 12:49 |
| hikiko | when I dist upgrade, compiz doesnt crash | 12:49 |
| cyphermox | 20160323 should be good, I think | 12:49 |
| cyphermox | hikiko: no, it's not *just* upgrading compiz | 12:50 |
| cyphermox | you also need to wait for the screensaver to kick in | 12:50 |
| hikiko | so cyphermox what's the theory? | 12:50 |
| hikiko | that the screensaver crashes the visual update? | 12:50 |
| hikiko | and leaves the system in a weird condition? | 12:51 |
| cyphermox | I have no idea. compiz crashes, I upgraded manually until there was just the few desktop packages left I wrote down in my comment, because I couldn't reduce it any more than that | 12:51 |
| cyphermox | and in between I'd let the screensaver activate to try and get the system to crash again | 12:51 |
| cyphermox | I don't know enough about X or GL or compiz to know why the screensaver would change anything for compiz | 12:51 |
| hikiko | is it possible | 12:52 |
| cyphermox | that's why we asked for help | 12:52 |
| hikiko | that the screensaver | 12:52 |
| hikiko | uses a library that is upgraded by one of those packages | 12:52 |
| hikiko | and that's why it crashes? | 12:52 |
| cyphermox | that's still X or desktop. | 12:53 |
| cyphermox | have you tried upgrading things at all? | 12:53 |
| hikiko | cyphermox, | 12:53 |
| andyrock | cyphermox: X crashes as well here | 12:54 |
| hikiko | if you disable the screensaver | 12:54 |
| hikiko | you still have the issue | 12:54 |
| hikiko | x crashes too | 12:54 |
| cyphermox | hikiko: sure. if you prefer you may well look into that crash? | 12:55 |
| hikiko | cyphermox, I'm looking at it but it seems to me that the crash is a consequency of the upgrade crash | 12:55 |
| cyphermox | the upgrade does not appear to crash, what makes you think that? | 12:56 |
| hikiko | I think pitti had the same prob with willcooke and me and saw a similar message for insserv and cron | 12:57 |
| hikiko | cyphermox, | 12:57 |
| hikiko | after the crash I rebooted | 12:57 |
| cyphermox | do you have a stack trace? | 12:57 |
| hikiko | and got a kernel panic | 12:57 |
| hikiko | no | 12:57 |
| hikiko | the fs was in bad state | 12:57 |
| cyphermox | sure, but that's normal if the system freezes while you upgrade | 12:57 |
| hikiko | my theory is that: | 12:58 |
| cyphermox | our goal is for the system not to freeze and the X session not to die while upgrading | 12:58 |
| hikiko | either a post installation script is doing something or something is missing and makes x crash | 12:58 |
| hikiko | or | 12:58 |
| hikiko | a visual program crashes and stops the upgrade | 12:59 |
| hikiko | but I think 1 is more possible | 12:59 |
| hikiko | because I had dist-upgrade problems | 12:59 |
| hikiko | plus | 12:59 |
| hikiko | compiz seems to crash because it cant find libc | 12:59 |
| cyphermox | hikiko: we asked for help because it would be very nice if you could look into the compiz crash itself or the X crash or whatever, and see if that can be fixed -- if a postinst script tries to do things and causes a crash, it is overwhelmingly still likely to be a bug | 12:59 |
| hikiko | if libc is missing | 13:00 |
| hikiko | how could i fix that in compiz? | 13:00 |
| cyphermox | hikiko: we'll always be replacing libraries from under things. that's what upgrades do, and it wouldn't be different from what upgrading from wily to xenial would do, or vivid to wily | 13:01 |
| cyphermox | something is triggering that crash, and perhaps there is a way to avoid it | 13:01 |
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| cyphermox | as mentioned earlier, even if you disable the screensaver the whole session eventually freezes, that's verybad and if we'll need help to figure that out too | 13:03 |
| hikiko | I agree | 13:03 |
| hikiko | wait | 13:03 |
| hikiko | you mean that | 13:03 |
| hikiko | before the crash | 13:03 |
| hikiko | you disabled the screensaver during the upgrade | 13:04 |
| hikiko | and got a crash? | 13:04 |
| cyphermox | I tried both things | 13:04 |
| hikiko | sorry I didn't understand that | 13:04 |
| cyphermox | with the screensaver, as soon as the screensaver starts, compiz crashes and I get thrown back to lightdm, and then I can't login | 13:04 |
| hikiko | that's during the upgrade? | 13:04 |
| hikiko | what are the steps to reproduce? | 13:05 |
| hikiko | you start the update manager in compiz | 13:05 |
| hikiko | then? | 13:05 |
| cyphermox | without the screensaver (with the screensaver disabled), the upgrade seems to continue slightly longer but eventually the session *freezes*, I can't move the mouse anymore | 13:05 |
| cyphermox | you just run 'sudo update-manager -d' in a unity session | 13:05 |
| hikiko | that's what I do | 13:05 |
| hikiko | but in my case | 13:05 |
| hikiko | the screensaver doesn't seem to do anything | 13:06 |
| hikiko | just | 13:06 |
| hikiko | at some point | 13:06 |
| hikiko | with or without screensaver | 13:06 |
| hikiko | everything blacks out | 13:06 |
| hikiko | and when I ssh | 13:06 |
| hikiko | I see no logs and X or compiz running | 13:06 |
| hikiko | and if I reboot | 13:06 |
| hikiko | I get the kernel panic | 13:06 |
| hikiko | and the message is that the fs cant be mounted | 13:07 |
| cyphermox | we explicitly can't care about what happens after you reboot | 13:07 |
| cyphermox | in this case, the upgrade has not completed so the system may be in any state | 13:08 |
| Laney | davmor2: want to confirm bug #1560973 / dupe it if you already know? | 13:14 |
| ubot5 | bug 1560973 in Ubuntu "EFI booting Ubuntu image to grub removes existing boot entries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560973 | 13:14 |
| hikiko | cyphermox, question: | 13:28 |
| andyrock | i'll try to run the upgrader without compiz | 13:28 |
| andyrock | on top of metacity | 13:28 |
| hikiko | the new lts has cron or uses the systemd cron? | 13:29 |
| hikiko | +1 andyrock | 13:29 |
| davmor2 | Laney: I'll take a look in a second for you just need to finish off test the bit's I'm doing currently | 13:31 |
| Laney | ja | 13:32 |
| cyphermox | hikiko: I have no idea about cron | 13:32 |
| cyphermox | either way the usage should be the same | 13:33 |
| hikiko | cron stops | 13:33 |
| hikiko | before the crash | 13:33 |
| hikiko | I don't know if it's relevant or not | 13:33 |
| hikiko | but I got the same message as willcooke and I think pitti got it too | 13:34 |
| hikiko | I don't know if it's worth investigating | 13:35 |
| Laney | muktupavels: hey, do you know if metacity is supposed to be all good with hidpi? | 13:37 |
| Laney | trying to understand https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1560162 (sorry for the inflammatory title) | 13:37 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1560162 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Xenial: scaling is horribly out on xps13 install session" [Undecided,New] | 13:37 |
| muktupavels | Laney: probably not... | 13:37 |
| Laney | seems like window placement / decoration drawing is not right | 13:38 |
| Trevinho | Laney: can you ack https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1157 ? | 13:42 |
| Trevinho | Laney: also... Hey! :) | 13:42 |
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| Laney | ok | 13:43 |
| Laney | hi Trevinho | 13:43 |
| Laney | how goes? | 13:43 |
| Trevinho | quite good, you? | 13:43 |
| Laney | lots of weird stuff going on | 13:43 |
| Trevinho | weird? | 13:43 |
| Laney | just bugs | 13:44 |
| muktupavels | Laney: metacity most likly need something like this - https://git.gnome.org/browse/mutter/commit/?id=57c1078ee742d9f01e80e7fe05c88adfec4b4ac3 | 13:44 |
| muktupavels | I have not done that because I have no HiDPI display :( | 13:44 |
| Laney | muktupavels: do they have something for window placement too? | 13:45 |
| Laney | ubiquity has GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER_ALWAYS | 13:45 |
| Laney | but you can see it's being positioned in the bottom right | 13:46 |
| Laney | you can set some keys / environment variables to use 2× scaling | 13:46 |
| * Laney will try on the installed system anyways, but after lunch | 13:46 | |
| Laney | probably have to look at glib/s390x too, which still hangs | 13:47 |
| muktupavels | Laney: don't remember | 13:47 |
| Laney | ok | 13:50 |
| muktupavels | Laney: do you know what environment variables I should use? | 13:55 |
| davmor2 | Laney: so oddly it removed the efi entry for the first ubuntu install however it added it correctly from grub2 so now I guess I really need to test against something other than ubuntu so I'll dig out an image from somewhere | 14:09 |
| davmor2 | Laney: I assume the issue is that the files and path are the same | 14:11 |
| davmor2 | Laney: feel free to change the title of that bug to something more manageable for yourself, I just write what I see and hope it makes sense :D | 14:13 |
| mvo | Laney: hi, sorry for the trouble with ubuntu-snappy, please just seed ubuntu-snappy-cli instead of ubuntu-snappy | 14:49 |
| Sweet5hark1 | re from the dentist (still drugged though) | 14:49 |
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| Laney | mvo: ok | 15:04 |
| Laney | davmor2: what do you mean with 'added'? | 15:05 |
| mvo | Laney: I just uploaded a new ubuntu-snappy that ensures its all working with ubuntu-snappy-cli | 15:06 |
| Laney | davmor2: note I don't have anything other than xenial installed | 15:07 |
| Trevinho | ricotz: abi-fixed bamf should be in proposed | 15:07 |
| davmor2 | Laney: so the EFI folder path and file names for Ubuntu installs are the same so it looks to me like they overwrite with the newer version installed. However there is a new entry in Grub2 for the older install which I think is expected, I'm installing fedora now and I'll do a side by side with that as then the paths should be different | 15:07 |
| ricotz | Trevinho, great :) | 15:08 |
| Laney | davmor2: why is it overwriting anything if I just look at the menu and then turn the system off? | 15:08 |
| Laney | cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1560973 -> grub2, or something else? | 15:08 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1560973 in Ubuntu "EFI booting Ubuntu image to grub removes existing boot entries and makes system unbootable" [Undecided,New] | 15:08 |
| davmor2 | Laney: I don't know, one for the foundations team | 15:08 |
| Laney | davmor2: yeah, just throwing it out there :P | 15:09 |
| Trevinho | ricotz: it should also fix your issue with new starting bamf app created with no desktop file. Although as you said you should fix plank to properly show them | 15:09 |
| Laney | you don't need to investigate that much | 15:09 |
| Trevinho | or launchers around | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | Laney: yeah, grub possibly, though I can't see why it would change anything on the hardware | 15:10 |
| davmor2 | Laney: no I'm just doing a side by side with another os to see if the efi entries are kept then I am assuming they will be but it is always good to know that too | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | Laney: either it's that or it's some freak BIOS bug | 15:10 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox, Laney: grub2. Grub doesn't support efi | 15:10 |
| Laney | it was more 'grub2 or some other component completely?' :) | 15:11 |
| cyphermox | ^ indeed, but nobody uses grub-not-2. | 15:11 |
| Laney | cyphermox: yeah, I don't have any other efi installs to check against though I'm afraid | 15:11 |
| * Laney has grub2-ified it | 15:11 | |
| cyphermox | Laney: I should be able to reproduce on my hardware. | 15:11 |
| Laney | 'k | 15:11 |
| cyphermox | if not, it's a BIOS issue | 15:11 |
| Laney | good job we're friends with superm1 | 15:12 |
| cyphermox | haha yeah ;) | 15:12 |
| cyphermox | oh, wait | 15:12 |
| cyphermox | Laney: is that a new install? | 15:12 |
| cyphermox | what image did you use? | 15:12 |
| Laney | 20160323 | 15:12 |
| cyphermox | fun. | 15:12 |
| Laney | just looking at the grub-efi menu thing | 15:13 |
| cyphermox | could it be the install itself that confused your BIOS? | 15:13 |
| Laney | you know the one that appears from the install | 15:13 |
| Laney | s/install/image/ | 15:13 |
| cyphermox | wait | 15:13 |
| Laney | before you even get to ubiquity or anything | 15:13 |
| cyphermox | I mean, the system you used to write the image, was it a newly-installed system? | 15:13 |
| Laney | erm | 15:13 |
| Laney | no | 15:13 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:13 |
| Laney | I just dd-ed it from my regular install | 15:13 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:13 |
| cyphermox | there's a strong smell of BIOS, in any case | 15:14 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: confirmed the initial issue if you install ubuntu along side ubuntu I'm just trying fedora23 with ubuntu alongside now to see if that behaves differently I'm hoping it does :) | 15:14 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: what initial issue? | 15:15 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: the efi one | 15:15 |
| cyphermox | bug #? or are you talking about the same thing as Laney? | 15:16 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: same one as Laney | 15:16 |
| davmor2 | man fedora takes an age to install | 15:17 |
| cyphermox | well, it's not the same thing if you're installing two things on the same disk side by side | 15:17 |
| hikiko | andyrock, and cyphermox I check the post inst scripts that have warnings or errors to see if i find something relevant | 15:38 |
| andyrock | i just managed to reproduce the crash with metacity | 15:38 |
| hikiko | i told you it cant be compiz | 15:39 |
| hikiko | the other things i want to check is: | 15:39 |
| hikiko | 1 libc is multi arch did we changed the dirs? | 15:39 |
| andyrock | cyphermox hikiko i always get the crash after udev restarting | 15:39 |
| hikiko | me too | 15:40 |
| hikiko | and the gvfs-common | 15:40 |
| hikiko | is the last package i see here | 15:40 |
| hikiko | so we must probably check its scripts | 15:40 |
| hikiko | but I have to go | 15:40 |
| hikiko | I ll be back later to continue investigating | 15:41 |
| hikiko | I just wanted to let you know what I am looking at | 15:41 |
| hikiko | maybe you get some better ideas | 15:41 |
| cyphermox | andyrock: crash with metacity> the session dies and you get back to the login screen? | 15:41 |
| andyrock | i don't get back to loginscreen | 15:42 |
| andyrock | but x died | 15:42 |
| hikiko | libc looks very suspicious to me that's what I am going to check first when i come back | 15:42 |
| cyphermox | good enough I suppose | 15:42 |
| andyrock | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AVhCBoaU/ | 15:42 |
| andyrock | cyphermox: ^^^ | 15:42 |
| cyphermox | hikiko: please show what makes you think it's libc; if that's the issue, we can deal with it by letting infinity look at it hard again | 15:42 |
| cyphermox | andyrock: dmesg? | 15:43 |
| hikiko | because compiz couldnt find the libc | 15:43 |
| hikiko | i think | 15:43 |
| hikiko | at the point of the crash | 15:43 |
| hikiko | the new libc | 15:43 |
| hikiko | is installed | 15:43 |
| cyphermox | right, but what was compiz doing at the time? | 15:43 |
| hikiko | BUT | 15:43 |
| cyphermox | do you have a backtrace? | 15:43 |
| hikiko | the dynamic loader | 15:43 |
| hikiko | still looks at the old directories | 15:44 |
| hikiko | i am going to check if it works | 15:44 |
| hikiko | in i386 | 15:44 |
| cyphermox | please show logs for this | 15:44 |
| hikiko | when i come back | 15:44 |
| hikiko | andyrock, | 15:44 |
| hikiko | do you have the log | 15:44 |
| hikiko | cyphermox, it was andy's | 15:44 |
| hikiko | he pasted it yesterday | 15:44 |
| cyphermox | if it's an issue with libc's pt_chown or something, it might already have been fixed in the new image | 15:44 |
| hikiko | cyphermox, sorry I haave to go I ll look at it tonight and ping you | 15:45 |
| hikiko | sorry | 15:45 |
| hikiko | +it's just a theory | 15:45 |
| hikiko | I am not sure | 15:45 |
| hikiko | bbl | 15:45 |
| cyphermox | mmkay | 15:46 |
| andyrock | cyphermox i don't have it, i already restarted the vm | 15:47 |
| andyrock | i'll try to see if I can get a bt of Xorg | 15:47 |
| andyrock | because it's Xorg that's crashing with or without unity/compiz | 15:47 |
| cyphermox | well, I suppose that's good news | 15:48 |
| Laney | mvo: Guess this wants to wait until after beta now | 15:59 |
| Laney | but I've seeded it anyway | 15:59 |
| mvo | Laney: thanks | 16:04 |
| Trevinho | desrt: you here? | 16:04 |
| andyrock | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Wl0AcISq/ | 16:08 |
| andyrock | cyphermox ^^^ | 16:08 |
| andyrock | do you think it's the libc bug that has already been solved? | 16:08 |
| Laney | pitti: any chance I/you/we can reboot 'aupkg01' to get it on the -15 kernel? | 16:08 |
| pitti | Laney: sure | 16:09 |
| Laney | I'm abusing it a little bit to try to reproduce this blasted glib2.0 hang | 16:09 |
| desrt | Trevinho: at lunch. bbiab. | 16:09 |
| Laney | pitti: JFDI or something more? | 16:09 |
| Laney | stop workers I guess | 16:09 |
| pitti | Laney: if you want to be kind, pkill worker and let the current tests finish (or at least settle down a bit) | 16:09 |
| * Laney nod | 16:09 | |
| pitti | Laney: actually, there's just two pyzmq tests running for 4/7 hours which look stuck | 16:10 |
| pitti | Laney: so yes, stop workers, dist-upgrade, and reboot | 16:10 |
| cyphermox | andyrock: no idea tbh | 16:10 |
| Trevinho | desrt: ok, enjoy... Let me know when you're back | 16:10 |
| andyrock | cyphermox: is the bug fixed in the last image? | 16:11 |
| cyphermox | andyrock: it doesn't look that way, and it seems to me like writes should just work too | 16:11 |
| cyphermox | andyrock: yeah, the bug I was thinking of should laready be fixed in the last image (20160323) | 16:11 |
| GunnarHj | infinity: Hi Adam, did you notice bug #1560577? If you think my latest idea (minor script modifications) is ok, I can make a real patch. Suppose that change could be accepted in Debian as well. | 16:31 |
| ubot5 | bug 1560577 in glibc (Ubuntu) "Confusing new locale-gen behavior" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560577 | 16:31 |
| infinity | GunnarHj: Try again with -0ubuntu2, that behaviour changed. | 16:35 |
| GunnarHj | infinity: Aha, didn't know. Will do. | 16:36 |
| desrt | Trevinho: back! | 16:52 |
| Trevinho | desrt: so, i've slightly updated the MP for hiding window buttons... | 16:53 |
| Trevinho | desrt: it's at https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/gtk/unity-maximized-headerbar-buttons-hide/+merge/288552, basically I'm checking whether the headerbar is also the toplevel's titlebar before hiding stuff... | 16:53 |
| Trevinho | desrt: but, we can't avoid to do that if we don't want a double-title/buttons | 16:53 |
| desrt | in the case where the headerbar contains controls maybe we could hide the title label itself? | 16:54 |
| Trevinho | I don't think that would cause any breakage since these values are still shown. | 16:54 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox, Laney: so after an hour and 3 minute installing fedora turns out they lvm by default thankfully I haz t'interwebz to help me modify it all. I now have ubuntu and fedora cohabiting and both entries show in uefi menu | 16:54 |
| Laney | ok... | 16:55 |
| Laney | what does this teach us? | 16:55 |
| Trevinho | desrt: which kind of controls you mean?= | 16:55 |
| davmor2 | fedora's path is EFI/fedora/shim.... and ubuntu's is EFI/ubuntu/shim... | 16:55 |
| desrt | like all the stuff that apps like gedit shove into the headerbar | 16:55 |
| desrt | we don't want to hide this stuff | 16:55 |
| Trevinho | desrt: in fact we don't. | 16:55 |
| Trevinho | desrt: only the title label is hidden and the window controls (close, maximize, hide) | 16:56 |
| desrt | ah. i see that. | 16:56 |
| Trevinho | desrt: I'm also tempted to force the window contls to always stay left in unity... But that might be too much :P | 16:57 |
| desrt | looks pretty reasonable | 16:57 |
| Trevinho | desrt: this is the same app here with the current patch in both restored and maximized state: http://imgur.com/a/VETka | 16:58 |
| desrt | looks good indeed | 16:58 |
| desrt | i have no further comments about the patch | 16:58 |
| Trevinho | desrt: I was thinking also that maybe the headerbar could either hidden if empty (i.e. no custom controls, window buttons, subtitle) when maximized... | 16:59 |
| Trevinho | But again I'm not sure whether it's too much :) | 16:59 |
| desrt | trying to figure that out is going to be more difficult | 17:00 |
| desrt | let's stay with this one for now | 17:00 |
| desrt | almost all of the apps are putting something in there anyway | 17:00 |
| desrt | so the empty case is uncommon | 17:00 |
| Trevinho | well, not sure how it is for normal apps, but fair enough | 17:00 |
| Trevinho | desrt: as for forcing the window buttons to always stay left, I don't do that, right? :) | 17:01 |
| desrt | please not | 17:01 |
| desrt | it certainly has nothing to do with the issue at hand | 17:01 |
| Trevinho | yeah, I agree.. that would be too much :) | 17:02 |
| Trevinho | Laney: then... Since seb is enjoying his free time, could you please sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/gtk/unity-maximized-headerbar-buttons-hide/+merge/288552 for me? | 17:02 |
| Trevinho | I'd like to land the theme changes as well then | 17:03 |
| Laney | tomorrow | 17:03 |
| Trevinho | Laney: sure, no rush | 17:03 |
| Trevinho | thanks | 17:04 |
| * Laney weeps | 17:09 | |
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| willcooke | Laney, if you have the inspector set up, you could try this simple idea for the linked buttons: | 17:43 |
| willcooke | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15481356 | 17:43 |
| willcooke | seems the linked buttons in 3.18 are a bit buggy | 17:44 |
| Laney | it's better, basically makes them unlinked | 17:45 |
| Laney | buggy why? | 17:45 |
| willcooke | the separator between the linked buttons is always there | 17:46 |
| willcooke | you can style it | 17:46 |
| willcooke | *except* it does respond to a border-radius | 17:46 |
| willcooke | so I made it the same as the buttons, and then enlarged the border image a bit to make it look like they are unlinked | 17:46 |
| willcooke | also raveit65 the MATE theme guy said they were | 17:47 |
| willcooke | :) | 17:47 |
| Laney | finding it hard to conjure up much sympathy :) | 17:48 |
| Laney | trying to style a linked button to be unlinked ... | 17:49 |
| willcooke | :) | 17:49 |
| willcooke | fair | 17:49 |
| willcooke | testing with the widget factory now | 17:50 |
| willcooke | found 1 problem already | 17:50 |
| willcooke | oh, no | 17:50 |
| willcooke | thats not changed by this | 17:50 |
| willcooke | cyphermox, BTW, do you think that latest change to the slideshow will get in to the beta? | 17:52 |
| willcooke | cyphermox, low priority of course | 17:52 |
| Trevinho | desrt: I've quickly played with the headerbar to hide it when there's nothing to show in unity... It would be something like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15481404/ | 17:53 |
| Trevinho | what you think? | 17:53 |
| cyphermox | willcooke: should already be in: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/109 | 17:57 |
| willcooke | cyphermox, ah... https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+merge/289880 | 17:58 |
| willcooke | cyphermox, this *really* is it now. | 17:59 |
| willcooke | well, for today at least | 17:59 |
| cyphermox | ok, so you mean one new change on top? | 17:59 |
| willcooke | yeah | 17:59 |
| cyphermox | that won't be in the beta ;) | 17:59 |
| willcooke | nw | 17:59 |
| willcooke | sorry to be a pita | 17:59 |
| cyphermox | no problem | 17:59 |
| cyphermox | I'll merge it in a bit, once I'm done with this keyboard magic | 18:00 |
| willcooke | thanks cyphermox | 18:00 |
| willcooke | in the meantime I'll carry on reading about steganography. | 18:01 |
| willcooke | totally unrelated | 18:01 |
| cyphermox | willcooke: aren't stegosaurii extinct? ;) | 18:11 |
| willcooke | no, you just can't see them | 18:12 |
| willcooke | ;D | 18:12 |
| Laney | nn | 18:12 |
| muktupavels | Laney: maybe this will help - https://git.gnome.org/browse/mutter/commit/src/ui/ui.c?id=d7c4f57aaebcd1e6da7a7b343765c0c4b6b81b25 | 18:12 |
| sarnold | :D | 18:12 |
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| Laney | muktupavels: will try to look tomorrow | 18:13 |
| willcooke | Laney, think I've found a better fix... WIP | 18:13 |
| Laney | cool | 18:16 |
| muktupavels | Laney: with gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor 2 it works better :) | 18:22 |
| muktupavels | Laney: https://git.gnome.org/browse/metacity/commit/?h=gnome-3-18&id=d06393b4952333883d66c2b0d570eedc19e8e7a0 | 18:22 |
| willcooke | gannin' for me tea. bbl | 18:27 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: ZOMG upgrade is only working | 18:49 |
| davmor2 | jibel: ^ | 18:49 |
| davmor2 | well so far at least but I'm pretty sure it has got further than before | 18:49 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: ^ | 18:49 |
| jibel | davmor2, you must have done something wrong | 18:51 |
| flocculant | davmor2: still hangs for me from 14.04 to now and appears to have crashed | 18:51 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: don't ruin my optimism with your facts ;) | 18:51 |
| davmor2 | jibel: who knows | 18:52 |
| davmor2 | oh oh it just greyed out :( | 18:52 |
| jibel | heh | 18:53 |
| flocculant | davmor2: I did fleetingly think about doing a davmor2 - you have to be joking, no it isn't in #x-dev :p | 18:55 |
| davmor2 | oh just kicked back in | 18:55 |
| davmor2 | libreadlines obviously just takes some setting up | 18:56 |
| flocculant | davmor2: I left mine all afternoon while off doing my real job - came back - hard reboot - booted into xenial desktop somehow - had to dpkg --configure -awholelotofthings then it's there :) | 18:57 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: lalala I can't hear you :P | 18:58 |
| flocculant | :) | 19:00 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: it's all your fault it was installing fine till you said it wouldn't ;) | 19:08 |
| flocculant | \o/ | 19:08 |
| flocculant | I have a use finally :p | 19:08 |
| davmor2 | jibel, willcooke: Looks like it kernel panics/locks up the system at gvfs-common | 19:09 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: ^ | 19:09 |
| davmor2 | still it got further than before \o/ | 19:09 |
| jibel | davmor2, is it in a VM? | 19:09 |
| davmor2 | jibel: it is | 19:10 |
| davmor2 | jibel: takes too long to reinstall on hardware to test there for fun :) | 19:10 |
| jibel | davmor2, yeah, just wanted to confirm. | 19:11 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: you in vm too I assume right? | 19:13 |
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| willcooke | Laney, better fix I think: https://pastebin.canonical.com/152650/ | 19:36 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: ack | 19:37 |
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| willcooke | Laney, for you consideration: https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/ubuntu-themes-linkedbuttons/+merge/289967 | 19:47 |
| willcooke | *your | 19:48 |
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| qengho | Man, I dislike git's "ui". | 20:12 |
| GunnarHj | infinity: Nice improvements in the latest locale-gen. :) Still found a couple of issues, and make a new diff (attached to bug #1560577). Would appreciate if you could take a look. | 20:16 |
| ubot5 | bug 1560577 in glibc (Ubuntu) "Confusing new locale-gen behavior" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1560577 | 20:16 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: oem install is definitely not right on kvm will try on hardware now | 20:32 |
| cyphermox | don't worry, multiple reports of oem not quite right; I'm going to have a lot to do there | 20:33 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: by tomorrow :o | 20:33 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox, willcooke: looks like the end user slide show is missing slides not sure why as the installers is correct unless willcooke renamed them? | 20:34 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: and then it never completes the end user install so you are left with the oem account on the system and nothing else | 20:35 |
| willcooke | davmor2, I see the issue.. sec... | 20:35 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: not by tomorrow | 20:36 |
| willcooke | cyphermox, those were the sym links I was worried about | 20:36 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: but tomorrow is the release of beta final ;) | 20:36 |
| cyphermox | slideshow isn't release-critical | 20:40 |
| cyphermox | and oem has fewer users than keyboards ;) | 20:40 |
| willcooke | cyphermox, davmor2 - fixed: https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+merge/289974 | 20:53 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: nice :) | 20:55 |
| davmor2 | 1 down | 20:55 |
| TheMuso | willcooke: I did respond to the bug. As it is, the indicator as it was before didn't really work for the mate flavour anyway. Sure you could select a profile, but nothing would really be changed, due to the gsettings being geared to Unity only, and the hard coded profile code not containing any mate settings. | 21:38 |
| TheMuso | The cleanest way forward is to add support for mate/GNOME flavours, which would need an FFE. | 21:38 |
| willcooke | ack, thanks TheMuso - lets see if they can get some people to help | 21:38 |
| willcooke | can someone tell me how I attach a branch to a bug? | 21:55 |
| willcooke | Is it too late once I've pushed it up to LP? | 21:55 |
| willcooke | wait, I think I see it | 21:55 |
| willcooke | yeah, done | 21:56 |
| TheMuso | willcooke: You're up late. :) | 21:58 |
| willcooke | fixing bugs! | 21:58 |
| willcooke | Doing some real work | 21:58 |
| TheMuso | Yeah, good enough. :) | 21:58 |
| willcooke | ) | 21:58 |
| willcooke | :) | 21:58 |
| willcooke | right, got another fix sorted. | 22:01 |
| willcooke | Got one for rb to run by design tomorrow | 22:01 |
| willcooke | night all | 22:02 |
| TheMuso | willcooke: Since you're around, I don't have anything pressing to talk about in our one on one tomorrow your time, so unless you do, I am happy to allow you some extra sleep tomorrow morning if you like. :) | 22:02 |
| TheMuso | damn missed him. | 22:02 |
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