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| magespawn | good morning | 05:59 |
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| mazal | Mornings | 06:24 |
| magespawn | hi mazal | 06:36 |
| magespawn | mazal cell c have a special on until the end of april 5+15 GB with a E5573 LTE Modem for R99 per month 24 month contract | 06:39 |
| magespawn | if you are interested | 06:39 |
| chesedo | morning magespawn and magespawn | 06:41 |
| chesedo | and mazal | 06:41 |
| chesedo | stupid tab | 06:41 |
| magespawn | hi chesedo | 06:41 |
| Kilos | morning all and sundry | 07:02 |
| chesedo | morning Kilos | 07:22 |
| Kilos | hi chesedo | 07:23 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos | 07:35 |
| magespawn | who is sundry? new friend of yours? | 07:35 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 07:35 |
| magespawn | for those interested in such http://www.commandlinefu.com | 07:35 |
| Kilos | sundry is radom things hanging around | 07:35 |
| Kilos | what does foo do | 07:36 |
| magespawn | ja ek weet oom | 07:36 |
| Kilos | i asked here yesterday what does sudo apt install foo do | 07:36 |
| magespawn | foo is usually used as a place holder for the actual name of something, like a command or file name | 07:37 |
| magespawn | used to illustrate the syntax of a command | 07:37 |
| MaNI | foo bar baz | 07:40 |
| MaNI | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar | 07:41 |
| magespawn | knowing the sense of humour people have i would not be surprised that there is an actual program called foo | 07:41 |
| MaNI | there is an unfoo | 07:41 |
| MaNI | not sure if there is a foo, but yes it would not surprise | 07:42 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 07:42 |
| magespawn | metasyntactic variables | 07:42 |
| Kilos | somewhere in this link was that command | 07:43 |
| Kilos | https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/ | 07:43 |
| magespawn | i like that, that will confuse most people | 07:43 |
| Kilos | ive tried using apt and left off thr -get and every thing works and progress bar shows when installing stuff | 07:43 |
| magespawn | cool beans | 07:50 |
| Kilos | the installing part is too fast with an i5 and an ssd | 07:52 |
| mazal | ta magespawn | 07:58 |
| mazal | Morning everyone I missed | 07:59 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 07:59 |
| * mazal chuckles at the foo discussion | 08:01 | |
| magespawn | mazal did you see the special? | 08:03 |
| mazal | I saw your post ta magespawn | 08:04 |
| mazal | Is a little light for me though | 08:04 |
| magespawn | cool | 08:04 |
| Kilos | mazal what happened with you 3g dongle | 08:04 |
| mazal | I applied for a 30gig one , still waiting | 08:04 |
| Kilos | you forgot | 08:04 |
| magespawn | Kilos: install a really big program | 08:04 |
| Kilos | whyyyy | 08:04 |
| magespawn | then you can see the progress bar | 08:05 |
| mazal | Kilos: I managed to get it open. Had to practically break it open almost. But then discovered my phone's sim is not a 64k sim | 08:05 |
| Kilos | i have everything i need and all working lekker | 08:05 |
| Kilos | it should work with any sim i think mazal | 08:06 |
| Kilos | anyway if not you just get n new si | 08:06 |
| Kilos | m | 08:06 |
| mazal | I remember something that 32k sim don't work. Or only on edge then. Something like that. Too long ago , can't remember | 08:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:06 |
| Kilos | and im old | 08:06 |
| magespawn | getting connected to the internet should not be this much work | 08:06 |
| Kilos | no , every cell tower should provide free wifi | 08:07 |
| Kilos | oh telkom sending a tech here to check if tower needs upgrading | 08:07 |
| mazal | Anyway , after discovering that decided to best leave it anyway. Would have killed my airtime when the updates kicked in anyway | 08:08 |
| mazal | Oh and tried yesterday yo register my phone's sim on Vodacom so I could purchase a data bundle. Couldn't even register cos their confirmation links don't work. The incompetance in this country is scary | 08:09 |
| mazal | Reported it , till now no answer even | 08:09 |
| Kilos | hi bushtech | 08:10 |
| Kilos | yip mazal things just getting worse | 08:11 |
| mazal | That was during the day yesterday. Though to just convert some airtime to a little data bundle as then it is not so expensive. But ya , that failed like everything else | 08:11 |
| mazal | I think there is a way to do it on the phone itself via commands as well , but after seeing I have a 32k sim I lost interest | 08:14 |
| Kilos | im sure fly told me it makes no diffs | 08:14 |
| mazal | I specifically remember something about it oom. Unless they lied to me then | 08:15 |
| Kilos | on voda you dial *100# i hink it was | 08:15 |
| Kilos | either 100 or 111 | 08:15 |
| mazal | They were adamant that I must have a 64k sim. I can remember that | 08:15 |
| Kilos | superfly if you have time, does it matter if sim in dongle is 32k or 64k | 08:16 |
| Kilos | isnt that just more place for fone numbers | 08:17 |
| mazal | They said it's for 3g capability I think | 08:17 |
| chesedo | Kilos: 64k needed for HSDPA and up | 08:17 |
| mazal | Ah there we go | 08:17 |
| Kilos | aha ty | 08:17 |
| Kilos | wonder if the 18k will improve things more then as well | 08:18 |
| Kilos | 128k | 08:18 |
| superfly | Kilos: not really | 08:19 |
| Kilos | ok ty | 08:20 |
| superfly | Kilos: but it depends | 08:20 |
| Kilos | oh | 08:20 |
| thatgraemeguy | hello peoples | 08:20 |
| superfly | hi thatgraemeguy | 08:21 |
| Kilos | hi thatgraemeguy | 08:21 |
| Kilos | on what superfly | 08:21 |
| superfly | Kilos: a few things. tell me what you want to use the sim for and what device it is being plugged into | 08:23 |
| Kilos | in 3g modem | 08:24 |
| Kilos | one capable of 22mb/s | 08:24 |
| superfly | 32k should be fine | 08:52 |
| mazal | Wow cellphone data is crazy expensive. R400 for only 5gig | 08:55 |
| Kilos | welcome to the worl of mobile data mazal ty superfly | 08:56 |
| mazal | Not worth it at that rate. Will wait for my contract to get done one day. At least that's 30gig | 08:56 |
| Kilos | mobile and gaming dont go together | 08:56 |
| Kilos | thats why i stopped minetesting | 08:57 |
| mazal | That is the one thing thing that is holding back mobile very badly , their data rates | 08:59 |
| mazal | Kilos: Nevermind gaming , at that price it's not even worth it for normal work stuff | 09:00 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:01 |
| mazal | Email and web browsing is not even worth it at that price | 09:01 |
| Kilos | irc uses about 10meg a day and telegram less | 09:02 |
| Kilos | i must actually check irc again, have many channels ope now adays | 09:03 |
| mazal | And one can't even use it sparingly as it expires in 30 days. So you are screwed either way | 09:03 |
| Kilos | yes thats the hassle | 09:03 |
| Kilos | telkom gives you 2 months before it expires | 09:03 |
| mazal | Shees we are being exploited badly people | 09:04 |
| Kilos | die geld god regeer | 09:04 |
| mazal | Yep | 09:05 |
| mazal | For now I must stay without it and do my must be doen stuff at work. While this line lasts anyway | 09:09 |
| mazal | done* | 09:09 |
| mazal | Oh oom Kilos , you should here the new story Telkom tells us here | 09:12 |
| Kilos | tell | 09:12 |
| mazal | The few lines that does still work disconnect all the time as well | 09:12 |
| mazal | So they say it's Eskom not giving them enough power for the exchange | 09:13 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:13 |
| Kilos | thats the modern way | 09:13 |
| Kilos | pass the buck | 09:13 |
| Kilos | who me?? | 09:13 |
| Kilos | nono it was him | 09:13 |
| Kilos | im innocent | 09:13 |
| mazal | I actually had that experience up close one day here at work. Unbelievable | 09:14 |
| mazal | So the contractors are busy digging holes right | 09:15 |
| mazal | For new cameras and stuff | 09:15 |
| mazal | It catches my eye that these guys are very close to our fibre route | 09:15 |
| Kilos | hahaha yes its quite astonishing to hear the llies that are used to blame somone else | 09:15 |
| mazal | So in trying to prevent a disaster before it happens I walk to them to warn them | 09:15 |
| mazal | 3 guys there. I asked " Who is the manager here " | 09:16 |
| mazal | They start to actually fight about who the manager is | 09:16 |
| mazal | Each one says no it's the other one | 09:16 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 09:16 |
| mazal | I actually though these okes are gonna start hitting each other | 09:16 |
| mazal | I was stunned | 09:16 |
| Kilos | no one accepts the blame for anything | 09:17 |
| mazal | Just waited till the fight was over and they eventually decided who is the manager | 09:17 |
| mazal | BUT , when the posts and salaries comes then everyone wants to be the manager | 09:17 |
| Kilos | you should have said after the argument that you wanted to congratulate him and give a good report so he could get a raise then they would fight again in reverse mode | 09:18 |
| mazal | bwahahahahahaha , Nice plan !!! Gonna do that next time | 09:18 |
| Kilos | the land of milk and honey | 09:19 |
| mazal | Shees oom I couldn't belive it. I merely wanted to warn about cable in the area and had to wait for about 15 minutes for the fight to complete | 09:19 |
| Kilos | became the land of booze and money | 09:19 |
| Kilos | hahaha yeah its amusing at times | 09:19 |
| mazal | Problem is , it's us , the clients who must carry the consequences and pay and suffer for all this | 09:20 |
| Kilos | of course | 09:20 |
| Kilos | i see now zuma wants to put up more struggle hero statues | 09:21 |
| magespawn | and the business, economy and the country slide backwards | 09:21 |
| Kilos | wonder what statues cost | 09:21 |
| magespawn | less than nkandla | 09:22 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 09:22 |
| Kilos | underground bomb proof bunkers and all | 09:22 |
| Kilos | they know things we dont | 09:23 |
| mazal | maaz what's for lunch ? | 09:27 |
| Maaz | mazal: I prefer St Elmo's... but Scooters' deep pan pizza is also very yummy | 09:27 |
| Kilos | what is st elmos? | 09:27 |
| mazal | I dunno | 09:27 |
| Kilos | whoever taught Maaz that will inform us sometime | 09:28 |
| Kilos | chesedo ^^ | 09:28 |
| chesedo | nope | 09:29 |
| Kilos | inetpro ^^ and morning | 09:29 |
| * mazal needs a plan of escape from 12 to 1:10 | 09:30 | |
| Kilos | fish and chips are lekker and fish is healthy | 09:30 |
| mazal | Maybe I need to go look sor some qoutes or something | 09:30 |
| mazal | I have a feeling I am going to be bothered in that time with something I don't want to do | 09:31 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 09:43 |
| inetpro | oom Kilos, and what was that about? | 09:43 |
| * inetpro getting hungry now | 09:44 | |
| thatgraemeguy | Kilos: St. Elmos is a pizza place | 09:44 |
| thatgraemeguy | *was | 09:44 |
| thatgraemeguy | most are / will be converted to dominos | 09:44 |
| inetpro | thatgraemeguy: they don't exist any more? | 09:44 |
| thatgraemeguy | scooters too | 09:44 |
| inetpro | http://www.stelmos.co.za/ | 09:45 |
| thatgraemeguy | http://www.fin24.com/Companies/Retail/Dominos-Pizza-to-open-shop-in-SA-20140409 | 09:46 |
| thatgraemeguy | so "is" or "was" depends on location | 09:46 |
| thatgraemeguy | no new ones | 09:46 |
| inetpro | oh my! | 09:47 |
| inetpro | superfly: there goes your favorites | 09:47 |
| thatgraemeguy | no franchise pizza can beat a proper independently-run place imho | 09:48 |
| superfly | Domino's is good if you want to taste an American pizza. Seriously, their pepperoni is identical to what is made in the USA. | 09:51 |
| superfly | If you want an amazing pizza, you can't go wrong with Col'Cacchios | 09:51 |
| Kilos | what what inetpro ?? | 10:07 |
| Kilos | hi Wolfeyes | 10:08 |
| Wolfeyes | hey Kilos | 10:08 |
| magespawn | hi Wolfeyes | 10:08 |
| Kilos | you on kde? | 10:08 |
| Wolfeyes | hey magespawn | 10:13 |
| Wolfeyes | I am! | 10:13 |
| Kilos | https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/ | 10:13 |
| Kilos | that command they give worked well here and dont need to at-get anymore | 10:13 |
| Kilos | only apt now | 10:13 |
| mazal | Will give it a try | 10:14 |
| mazal | Uhm , what can I install | 10:15 |
| Kilos | just apt update | 10:16 |
| Kilos | apt upgrade | 10:16 |
| mazal | Sommer installed something small. Like the progress bar | 10:17 |
| mazal | Is that the one you yestrday said goes fast ? | 10:17 |
| Kilos | yes | 10:17 |
| mazal | So for all commands one just remove the -get ? | 10:18 |
| Kilos | yes | 10:18 |
| mazal | kewl | 10:18 |
| Kilos | read what all you can do with it | 10:19 |
| mazal | This reminds me , it's time for a auto clean | 10:19 |
| Kilos | try that with apt as well and let me know | 10:23 |
| mazal | apt doesn't seem to have one | 10:24 |
| mazal | It's not listed in the man | 10:25 |
| mazal | Only in apt-get's man | 10:25 |
| Kilos | just run sudo apt autoclean | 10:26 |
| Kilos | then tell me | 10:26 |
| Kilos | i did apt-get autoclean | 10:26 |
| Kilos | didnt think first | 10:27 |
| Kilos | should have tried | 10:27 |
| mazal | I also already did it with apt-get lol | 10:27 |
| mazal | But one get's this : | 10:28 |
| mazal | sudo apt autoremove | 10:28 |
| mazal | E: Invalid operation autoremove | 10:28 |
| Kilos | ah | 10:28 |
| mazal | So it doesn't look like it's supported | 10:28 |
| Kilos | maybe soon then we can forget about the -get | 10:29 |
| mazal | bbl , needs reboot | 10:29 |
| superfly | my apt has autoremove | 10:29 |
| Kilos | oh wow | 10:30 |
| Kilos | whyyy | 10:30 |
| Kilos | i just tried it | 10:30 |
| Kilos | sudo apt autoremove | 10:31 |
| Kilos | E: Invalid operation autoremove | 10:31 |
| Kilos | did autoremove with apt-get now gotta restart as well | 10:32 |
| Kilos | sigh | 10:32 |
| Wolfeyes | lol @ superfly | 10:32 |
| Kilos | lotsa kernel stuffs removed | 10:32 |
| inetpro | if you install apt-doc you can read the full documentation with your browser | 10:33 |
| inetpro | e.g.: file:///usr/share/doc/apt-doc/guide.html/index.html | 10:33 |
| Kilos | ai! more reading | 10:34 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 10:34 |
| Kilos | mein kopf is kaput | 10:34 |
| Kilos | ist | 10:35 |
| inetpro | but looks like there's not much about apt itself there just yet, unfortunately | 10:35 |
| Kilos | whew | 10:35 |
| Kilos | that saves some eyestrain ty | 10:35 |
| Kilos | ive read so much clearance and visa stuff i even know what clothes they wear | 10:36 |
| superfly | Kilos: I'm running 16.04 | 10:37 |
| Kilos | oh yes ty | 10:37 |
| Kilos | thought you had done some of your own hacking | 10:37 |
| superfly | no, I only hack my own stuff | 10:38 |
| superfly | and that's why I use Kubuntu/Debian. so that I don't have to spend days reconfiguring my PC. | 10:38 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:40 |
| Wolfeyes | lol | 10:45 |
| Wolfeyes | heya Na3iL | 10:51 |
| Na3iL | Hey Wolfeyes :D | 10:51 |
| Kilos | i go eat lunch | 11:11 |
| magespawn | bbl | 11:59 |
| Wolfeyes | wb Kilos | 12:11 |
| Kilos | ty | 12:11 |
| Wolfeyes | yw | 12:11 |
| mazal | Ouens julle het my so honger gemaak vandag ek gaan maar pizza eet na werk :P | 12:12 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 12:12 |
| mazal | Ons het nou nie daai smart plekke nie , maar dit moet maar doen | 12:12 |
| mazal | btw oom , Telkom called me now re the broken cable. " They will see what they can do " | 12:13 |
| Kilos | watse kos winkels het julle daar mazal | 12:13 |
| Kilos | yay | 12:13 |
| Kilos | ek kan nie eers onthou hoe lyk daai plek nie | 12:14 |
| mazal | I am not gonna retract my cancellation though , if they fix it good , if they don't I don't care. Will still wait for my mobile rather. Cable not an option is this town anymore | 12:14 |
| mazal | We just have these small owned shops oom | 12:14 |
| mazal | Roadhouse , steak house , bar gril etc. | 12:15 |
| Kilos | wow | 12:15 |
| magespawn | hey hey | 12:15 |
| mazal | The only big name we have is Wimpy | 12:15 |
| Kilos | no kentucky | 12:15 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 12:15 |
| mazal | no kfc . steers , spur any of those | 12:16 |
| Kilos | you should accept adsl if they fix it. mobile is too costly | 12:17 |
| Kilos | just get mobile working as a backup | 12:17 |
| Kilos | does their router have adsl and 3g options | 12:18 |
| mazal | Kilos: It is very clear that cable is not an option in this town anymore | 12:25 |
| mazal | I don't want something that is broken every now and then and takes more than a month to repair | 12:26 |
| Kilos | ok | 12:26 |
| mazal | I am one of those people that will rather have nothing than something I can't depend on | 12:26 |
| Kilos | ballie nap time | 12:27 |
| mazal | Bye oom , lekker aand | 12:27 |
| Kilos | dankie seun jy ook | 12:27 |
| mazal | Think I'm also gonna duck | 12:29 |
| mazal | Bye everyone , have a nice evening | 12:29 |
| superfly | I've got a weird question... does anyone remember an Afrikaans kids TV series from the early 80's about space, with puppets? | 12:40 |
| superfly | Kilos: ^^ | 12:40 |
| magespawn | superfly: any more details than that? | 12:46 |
| magespawn | i seem to remember something | 12:46 |
| superfly | I can picture it in my head, but I can't remember what it was called | 12:47 |
| magespawn | sort of like a star trek? and you could see the strings on the space ships | 12:47 |
| superfly | the first episode started with a particular space ranger guy who was hoping to have some holiday, but had to go back out again on another mission | 12:47 |
| superfly | everything was puppetry | 12:48 |
| magespawn | yes, although i can't remember what it was called | 12:48 |
| superfly | found it | 12:49 |
| superfly | Interster | 12:49 |
| superfly | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interster | 12:49 |
| magespawn | yup that is the one | 12:52 |
| magespawn | it always astounds me th amount of effort people will put into something like a tv show | 12:56 |
| Kilos | superfly not liewe heksie | 13:59 |
| Kilos | ill tell you when sis gets home | 13:59 |
| superfly | Kilos: it's OK, I figured it out. And no, not Liewe Heksie | 14:00 |
| superfly | it was called Interster | 14:00 |
| Kilos | i never saw that | 14:00 |
| Wolfeyes | I remember that. | 14:02 |
| * Kilos looks around | 17:54 | |
| Kilos | nightrall sleep tight | 18:04 |
| superfly | Maaz: announce Don't forget, there's a DebConf16 meeting in #debconf-team on irc.debian.org tonight at 20:30 SAST | 18:23 |
| Maaz | Hear ye, hear ye! Don't forget, there's a DebConf16 meeting in #debconf-team on irc.debian.org tonight at 20:30 SAST | 18:23 |
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