=== PrivateUser is now known as Private_User [05:59] good morning [06:24] Mornings [06:36] hi mazal [06:39] mazal cell c have a special on until the end of april 5+15 GB with a E5573 LTE Modem for R99 per month 24 month contract [06:39] if you are interested [06:41] morning magespawn and magespawn [06:41] and mazal [06:41] stupid tab [06:41] hi chesedo [07:02] morning all and sundry [07:22] morning Kilos [07:23] hi chesedo [07:35] hi Kilos [07:35] who is sundry? new friend of yours? [07:35] hi magespawn [07:35] for those interested in such http://www.commandlinefu.com [07:35] sundry is radom things hanging around [07:36] what does foo do [07:36] ja ek weet oom [07:36] i asked here yesterday what does sudo apt install foo do [07:37] foo is usually used as a place holder for the actual name of something, like a command or file name [07:37] used to illustrate the syntax of a command [07:40] foo bar baz [07:41] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar [07:41] knowing the sense of humour people have i would not be surprised that there is an actual program called foo [07:41] there is an unfoo [07:42] not sure if there is a foo, but yes it would not surprise [07:42] sjoe [07:42] metasyntactic variables [07:43] somewhere in this link was that command [07:43] https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/ [07:43] i like that, that will confuse most people [07:43] ive tried using apt and left off thr -get and every thing works and progress bar shows when installing stuff [07:50] cool beans [07:52] the installing part is too fast with an i5 and an ssd [07:58] ta magespawn [07:59] Morning everyone I missed [07:59] hi mazal [08:01] * mazal chuckles at the foo discussion [08:03] mazal did you see the special? [08:04] I saw your post ta magespawn [08:04] Is a little light for me though [08:04] cool [08:04] mazal what happened with you 3g dongle [08:04] I applied for a 30gig one , still waiting [08:04] you forgot [08:04] Kilos: install a really big program [08:04] whyyyy [08:05] then you can see the progress bar [08:05] Kilos: I managed to get it open. Had to practically break it open almost. But then discovered my phone's sim is not a 64k sim [08:05] i have everything i need and all working lekker [08:06] it should work with any sim i think mazal [08:06] anyway if not you just get n new si [08:06] m [08:06] I remember something that 32k sim don't work. Or only on edge then. Something like that. Too long ago , can't remember [08:06] lol [08:06] and im old [08:06] getting connected to the internet should not be this much work [08:07] no , every cell tower should provide free wifi [08:07] oh telkom sending a tech here to check if tower needs upgrading [08:08] Anyway , after discovering that decided to best leave it anyway. Would have killed my airtime when the updates kicked in anyway [08:09] Oh and tried yesterday yo register my phone's sim on Vodacom so I could purchase a data bundle. Couldn't even register cos their confirmation links don't work. The incompetance in this country is scary [08:09] Reported it , till now no answer even [08:10] hi bushtech [08:11] yip mazal things just getting worse [08:11] That was during the day yesterday. Though to just convert some airtime to a little data bundle as then it is not so expensive. But ya , that failed like everything else [08:14] I think there is a way to do it on the phone itself via commands as well , but after seeing I have a 32k sim I lost interest [08:14] im sure fly told me it makes no diffs [08:15] I specifically remember something about it oom. Unless they lied to me then [08:15] on voda you dial *100# i hink it was [08:15] either 100 or 111 [08:15] They were adamant that I must have a 64k sim. I can remember that [08:16] superfly if you have time, does it matter if sim in dongle is 32k or 64k [08:17] isnt that just more place for fone numbers [08:17] They said it's for 3g capability I think [08:17] Kilos: 64k needed for HSDPA and up [08:17] Ah there we go [08:17] aha ty [08:18] wonder if the 18k will improve things more then as well [08:18] 128k [08:19] Kilos: not really [08:20] ok ty [08:20] Kilos: but it depends [08:20] oh [08:20] hello peoples [08:21] hi thatgraemeguy [08:21] hi thatgraemeguy [08:21] on what superfly [08:23] Kilos: a few things. tell me what you want to use the sim for and what device it is being plugged into [08:24] in 3g modem [08:24] one capable of 22mb/s [08:52] 32k should be fine [08:55] Wow cellphone data is crazy expensive. R400 for only 5gig [08:56] welcome to the worl of mobile data mazal ty superfly [08:56] Not worth it at that rate. Will wait for my contract to get done one day. At least that's 30gig [08:56] mobile and gaming dont go together [08:57] thats why i stopped minetesting [08:59] That is the one thing thing that is holding back mobile very badly , their data rates [09:00] Kilos: Nevermind gaming , at that price it's not even worth it for normal work stuff [09:01] lol [09:01] Email and web browsing is not even worth it at that price [09:02] irc uses about 10meg a day and telegram less [09:03] i must actually check irc again, have many channels ope now adays [09:03] And one can't even use it sparingly as it expires in 30 days. So you are screwed either way [09:03] yes thats the hassle [09:03] telkom gives you 2 months before it expires [09:04] Shees we are being exploited badly people [09:04] die geld god regeer [09:05] Yep [09:09] For now I must stay without it and do my must be doen stuff at work. While this line lasts anyway [09:09] done* [09:12] Oh oom Kilos , you should here the new story Telkom tells us here [09:12] tell [09:12] The few lines that does still work disconnect all the time as well [09:13] So they say it's Eskom not giving them enough power for the exchange [09:13] lol [09:13] thats the modern way [09:13] pass the buck [09:13] who me?? [09:13] nono it was him [09:13] im innocent [09:14] I actually had that experience up close one day here at work. Unbelievable [09:15] So the contractors are busy digging holes right [09:15] For new cameras and stuff [09:15] It catches my eye that these guys are very close to our fibre route [09:15] hahaha yes its quite astonishing to hear the llies that are used to blame somone else [09:15] So in trying to prevent a disaster before it happens I walk to them to warn them [09:16] 3 guys there. I asked " Who is the manager here " [09:16] They start to actually fight about who the manager is [09:16] Each one says no it's the other one [09:16] hahaha [09:16] I actually though these okes are gonna start hitting each other [09:16] I was stunned [09:17] no one accepts the blame for anything [09:17] Just waited till the fight was over and they eventually decided who is the manager [09:17] BUT , when the posts and salaries comes then everyone wants to be the manager [09:18] you should have said after the argument that you wanted to congratulate him and give a good report so he could get a raise then they would fight again in reverse mode [09:18] bwahahahahahaha , Nice plan !!! Gonna do that next time [09:19] the land of milk and honey [09:19] Shees oom I couldn't belive it. I merely wanted to warn about cable in the area and had to wait for about 15 minutes for the fight to complete [09:19] became the land of booze and money [09:19] hahaha yeah its amusing at times [09:20] Problem is , it's us , the clients who must carry the consequences and pay and suffer for all this [09:20] of course [09:21] i see now zuma wants to put up more struggle hero statues [09:21] and the business, economy and the country slide backwards [09:21] wonder what statues cost [09:22] less than nkandla [09:22] hahaha [09:22] underground bomb proof bunkers and all [09:23] they know things we dont [09:27] maaz what's for lunch ? [09:27] mazal: I prefer St Elmo's... but Scooters' deep pan pizza is also very yummy [09:27] what is st elmos? [09:27] I dunno [09:28] whoever taught Maaz that will inform us sometime [09:28] chesedo ^^ [09:29] nope [09:29] inetpro ^^ and morning [09:30] * mazal needs a plan of escape from 12 to 1:10 [09:30] fish and chips are lekker and fish is healthy [09:30] Maybe I need to go look sor some qoutes or something [09:31] I have a feeling I am going to be bothered in that time with something I don't want to do [09:43] good mornings [09:43] oom Kilos, and what was that about? [09:44] * inetpro getting hungry now [09:44] Kilos: St. Elmos is a pizza place [09:44] *was [09:44] most are / will be converted to dominos [09:44] thatgraemeguy: they don't exist any more? [09:44] scooters too [09:45] http://www.stelmos.co.za/ [09:46] http://www.fin24.com/Companies/Retail/Dominos-Pizza-to-open-shop-in-SA-20140409 [09:46] so "is" or "was" depends on location [09:46] no new ones [09:47] oh my! [09:47] superfly: there goes your favorites [09:48] no franchise pizza can beat a proper independently-run place imho [09:51] Domino's is good if you want to taste an American pizza. Seriously, their pepperoni is identical to what is made in the USA. [09:51] If you want an amazing pizza, you can't go wrong with Col'Cacchios [10:07] what what inetpro ?? [10:08] hi Wolfeyes [10:08] hey Kilos [10:08] hi Wolfeyes [10:08] you on kde? [10:13] hey magespawn [10:13] I am! [10:13] https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/ [10:13] that command they give worked well here and dont need to at-get anymore [10:13] only apt now [10:14] Will give it a try [10:15] Uhm , what can I install [10:16] just apt update [10:16] apt upgrade [10:17] Sommer installed something small. Like the progress bar [10:17] Is that the one you yestrday said goes fast ? [10:17] yes [10:18] So for all commands one just remove the -get ? [10:18] yes [10:18] kewl [10:19] read what all you can do with it [10:19] This reminds me , it's time for a auto clean [10:23] try that with apt as well and let me know [10:24] apt doesn't seem to have one [10:25] It's not listed in the man [10:25] Only in apt-get's man [10:26] just run sudo apt autoclean [10:26] then tell me [10:26] i did apt-get autoclean [10:27] didnt think first [10:27] should have tried [10:27] I also already did it with apt-get lol [10:28] But one get's this : [10:28] sudo apt autoremove [10:28] E: Invalid operation autoremove [10:28] ah [10:28] So it doesn't look like it's supported [10:29] maybe soon then we can forget about the -get [10:29] bbl , needs reboot [10:29] my apt has autoremove [10:30] oh wow [10:30] whyyy [10:30] i just tried it [10:31] sudo apt autoremove [10:31] E: Invalid operation autoremove [10:32] did autoremove with apt-get now gotta restart as well [10:32] sigh [10:32] lol @ superfly [10:32] lotsa kernel stuffs removed [10:33] if you install apt-doc you can read the full documentation with your browser [10:33] e.g.: file:///usr/share/doc/apt-doc/guide.html/index.html [10:34] ai! more reading [10:34] hmm... [10:34] mein kopf is kaput [10:35] ist [10:35] but looks like there's not much about apt itself there just yet, unfortunately [10:35] whew [10:35] that saves some eyestrain ty [10:36] ive read so much clearance and visa stuff i even know what clothes they wear [10:37] Kilos: I'm running 16.04 [10:37] oh yes ty [10:37] thought you had done some of your own hacking [10:38] no, I only hack my own stuff [10:38] and that's why I use Kubuntu/Debian. so that I don't have to spend days reconfiguring my PC. [10:40] lol [10:45] lol [10:51] heya Na3iL [10:51] Hey Wolfeyes :D [11:11] i go eat lunch [11:59] bbl [12:11] wb Kilos [12:11] ty [12:11] yw [12:12] Ouens julle het my so honger gemaak vandag ek gaan maar pizza eet na werk :P [12:12] hahaha [12:12] Ons het nou nie daai smart plekke nie , maar dit moet maar doen [12:13] btw oom , Telkom called me now re the broken cable. " They will see what they can do " [12:13] watse kos winkels het julle daar mazal [12:13] yay [12:14] ek kan nie eers onthou hoe lyk daai plek nie [12:14] I am not gonna retract my cancellation though , if they fix it good , if they don't I don't care. Will still wait for my mobile rather. Cable not an option is this town anymore [12:14] We just have these small owned shops oom [12:15] Roadhouse , steak house , bar gril etc. [12:15] wow [12:15] hey hey [12:15] The only big name we have is Wimpy [12:15] no kentucky [12:15] hi magespawn [12:16] no kfc . steers , spur any of those [12:17] you should accept adsl if they fix it. mobile is too costly [12:17] just get mobile working as a backup [12:18] does their router have adsl and 3g options [12:25] Kilos: It is very clear that cable is not an option in this town anymore [12:26] I don't want something that is broken every now and then and takes more than a month to repair [12:26] ok [12:26] I am one of those people that will rather have nothing than something I can't depend on [12:27] ballie nap time [12:27] Bye oom , lekker aand [12:27] dankie seun jy ook [12:29] Think I'm also gonna duck [12:29] Bye everyone , have a nice evening [12:40] I've got a weird question... does anyone remember an Afrikaans kids TV series from the early 80's about space, with puppets? [12:40] Kilos: ^^ [12:46] superfly: any more details than that? [12:46] i seem to remember something [12:47] I can picture it in my head, but I can't remember what it was called [12:47] sort of like a star trek? and you could see the strings on the space ships [12:47] the first episode started with a particular space ranger guy who was hoping to have some holiday, but had to go back out again on another mission [12:48] everything was puppetry [12:48] yes, although i can't remember what it was called [12:49] found it [12:49] Interster [12:49] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interster [12:52] yup that is the one [12:56] it always astounds me th amount of effort people will put into something like a tv show [13:59] superfly not liewe heksie [13:59] ill tell you when sis gets home [14:00] Kilos: it's OK, I figured it out. And no, not Liewe Heksie [14:00] it was called Interster [14:00] i never saw that [14:02] I remember that. [17:54] * Kilos looks around [18:04] nightrall sleep tight [18:23] Maaz: announce Don't forget, there's a DebConf16 meeting in #debconf-team on irc.debian.org tonight at 20:30 SAST [18:23] Hear ye, hear ye! Don't forget, there's a DebConf16 meeting in #debconf-team on irc.debian.org tonight at 20:30 SAST