[00:09] Aerosonic: So you're having problems getting them from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ ? I just ran zsync a few minutes ago and it seemed quite quick. === vittorio is now known as vittorio__ === vittorio__ is now known as vittorio === dan_ is now known as Guest25721 === struk|desk|away is now known as struk|desk === struk|desk is now known as struk|desk|away === struk|desk|away is now known as struk|desk === frogonwheels_ is now known as frogonwheels === JeZxLee_ is now known as JeZxLee === struk|desk is now known as struk|desk|away === Marius is now known as Guest50585 [08:37] Good morning. [08:58] good morning [08:59] Is this a good forum to ask for help troubleshooting an issue ? [08:59] Yes, ask away [08:59] Hi, [08:59] sod75: If it is Kubuntu related then this is the right place ;) [09:00] I'm having major issues for a while with plasma hanging/crashing when switching wetween user sessions [09:01] single user logged in all fine, but when I do a start new session, it only works half of the time [09:01] and when it works no guarantee I can switch back to the first, etc [09:01] I've googled but nothing major seems to pop up [09:02] it's also not straightforward consistant, also not sure where to look for error messages [09:03] kwin for the 'inactive' session goes 100% on one core is the most noteworthy thing I see [09:03] anyone seen this, any clues where to start looking ? [09:04] I'm on kubuntu 15.10 with backports enabled [09:04] the issues started already since upgrade to 15.04 [09:07] sod75: what Plasma version are you running ? [09:08] what's a good way to check ? [09:09] ii plasma-workspace 4:5.5.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1 amd64 Plasma Workspace for KF5 [09:09] ok so the latest available [09:10] *in Kubuntu :) [09:10] my experimental days are mostly over, i just need a stable desktop :) [09:11] only reason I enabled backports was hoping it would solve the issues, sadly no help [09:11] sod new session = you logged out and logged in ? [09:11] no, second user in parallel [09:11] so you are using teh switch user ? [09:11] and then switch with ctrl-alt F7 / F8 [09:12] are via menu ( as my wife insists on doing [09:12] yes,switch user [09:12] so throuh different tty [09:12] s/are/or [09:13] well i never tried that tbh. hmm [09:13] I've been using it for years without issue [09:13] until plasma , that is [09:15] it works occasionally, but then after a while you can't switch sessions anymore, black screen/etc evenb completely hanging [09:15] and the problems are only with the new sessions and the previous one works fine ? [09:16] no, both tend to get screwed up. as in , I open 1, wife opens second , Some hours later I try to switch to mine at it won't work, can't switch, etc [09:16] even going back to the one that was working 2 seconds ago wo'nt work anymore [09:16] sod75: and if you try Usser Switch widget ? [09:17] same issue [09:17] meh so meybe there is some bug [09:17] maybe a bit less frequent since it seems to involve less steps then via menu options [09:18] s/then/than [09:18] I'm happy to open a bug report, but I'm not sure what and how to report [09:19] sicne I can't seem to find errors [09:21] although, I just noticed this : [09:21] [ 34550.688] (EE) NVIDIA: GPU:0: EVO Push buffer channel allocation failed [09:21] [ 34550.690] (EE) NVIDIA: GPU:0: Failed to allocate EVO core DMA push buffer [09:21] [ 34560.690] (WW) NVIDIA: GPU:0: Timed out detecting DP displays on DP-1 [09:21] [ 34560.690] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failing initialization of X screen 0 [09:21] in Xorg [09:22] which driver are you using sod75 ? [09:22] ii nvidia-352 352.63-0ubuntu0.15.10.1 amd64 NVIDIA binary driver - version 352.63 [09:23] could always try using a PPA driver [09:23] seeing as how you already run plasma from ppa :p [09:23] sod75: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [09:24] is that 361, I heard that introduced bugs in some steam games, some I'm hesitant. also given the issues has been around for a while... [09:25] ah it says that's fixed [09:25] sod75: I run 364, works fine [09:26] I dont think you need to export __GLVND_DISALLOW_PATCHING=1 any longer [09:27] This is the only game I have issues with https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/923657/linux/magica-2-fails-to-lanuch-on-361-28-disabled-glvnd-error-in-gl_render_device-gl_shader-cpp-238-bui/ === Steffstoff_ is now known as Steffstoff [09:27] at any rate it's simple to switch back to 352 or whatever [09:27] i am also on 364 and they work fine :) [09:28] Guess it's worth a shot [09:28] you guys know when Kubuntu 16.04 is coming out ? [09:29] this month [09:29] as in march ? [09:29] wouldn't that be 16/03 then ;) [09:29] next month [09:29] April 21st [09:30] 16.04 (16 - 20016 ; 04 - april) [09:30] *2016 [09:30] where's a good source for info on it ? [09:30] http://kubuntu.org/?s=16.04 is just sad [09:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule [09:31] so today final beta will be released [09:31] april 14th Release Candidate than april 21st Final [09:32] cool, thx. [11:21] howdy folks === alin is now known as Guest40544 [12:05] hello [12:05] I have a question for you, please respond. [12:06] !ask | Guest40544 [12:06] Guest40544: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [12:06] If i have ubuntu 14.04 with unity installed can install kubuntu-desktop like apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and use both of them without problems? [12:07] somebody, please [12:08] Guest40544, yes, you can then choose which desktop you want to use at th elogin page [12:08] BluesKaj: Ok, thank you Sir, God Bless you and America. [12:09] Guest65405, and Canada too ? [12:09] he's gone [12:09] so no ! [12:10] well , i don't suppose it means much anyway === veselyl is now known as complique [12:36] With a recent update (not sure which) I started having trouble opening the K menu. It seems like it might be trying to open on a secondary display that I've specifically disabled. [12:41] LogicalDash, do you mean another launcher? [12:48] LogicalDash: what kind of menu are you using (alternative)? === struk|desk|away is now known as struk|desk [13:56] Hi everybody, I came right here to ask if it is normal that Okular takes like 10 seconds to load each page of a 10Mb PDF with 60 pages [14:07] Maxiride_, that's not normal IME [14:08] i've even tried using the greedy setting. the whole document still takes a lot to be loaded but at least once it's loaded it stays in memory [14:08] what else can I try? [14:10] pdfs are image files, so they do take longer to load than ordinary text files, and could be laden with artifacts [14:11] Maxiride_: HDD or SSD? [14:14] BluesKaj: Not totally accurate. you can embed Images into PDF files - but PDF files can also contain text. [14:14] Depending on the content, it can take long or not to load the PDF's. Really depends on the complexity of the input. [14:14] s/input/content/g [14:15] Smurphy, it was jusr a general description [14:32] anyone else seen kwin_x11 (and plasmashell) crashes when you start chromium? https://gist.github.com/921e0f3e92f0be402fbf [14:33] BluesKaj: Yeah :L) [14:49] another thing: how do i tell kde's… package manager? to stop showing me that i can install flash? i don't want to install flash. === struk|desk is now known as struk|desk|away === jotik^^ is now known as jotik === console is now known as e === Steffstoff is now known as Guest99947 === Steffstoff_ is now known as Steffstoff [17:41] hey, how can update to the latest version of kde applications? [18:05] hey there, when will final kubuntu beta be released? [18:07] hey - I have no question. Just wanted to participate the the "hey" spree... [18:09] hey === arce1 is now known as arce === rahul is now known as Guest47189 === spectre is now known as jbosmans [21:16] will plasma 5.6 be shipped with 16.04? [21:17] Swipe-: most likely not, FeatureFreeze has already been put into effect [21:18] probably 16.10 though [21:19] : It will mostly be put into the backports once 16.04 is out [21:19] cool thx [21:19] 5.5 in 16.04 then? [21:20] : Yes [21:20] : It is in Beta2 now [21:21] 26th april final release? [21:21] : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule&ved=0ahUKEwjzrIq-oNrLAhUCXR4KHby2BXwQFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNFth4z6ferLqTZLrS8QimthhCioDw&sig2=Pqq1EqUCMkjujXkVl-IWFw [21:21] : Opps [21:21] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule [21:22] : Yep 26th of April [21:23] looking forward to it [21:27] To clarify, April 21st is the release day, not the 26th [21:27] : the release says 26 [21:27] : opps [21:27] : I was looking at the read [21:28] : *red [21:29] 5 days less to wait :) === root is now known as Guest74928 [21:44] Ah! Everything is frozen now? Time to continue my tradition of upgrading about a month before final is out. [21:46] (With "everything" i mean final beta freeze. Other parts see their freeze in a few more weeks, but should not cause many issues for me) [21:50] Not totally. Plasma 5.5.4 might be upgraded to 5.5.5, but not to 5.6 [21:56] mparillo: Still shouldn;t cause many issues for me === support is now known as Guest80445