[00:09] <keithzg> Aerosonic: So you're having problems getting them from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ ?  I just ran zsync a few minutes ago and it seemed quite quick.
[08:37] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:58] <sod75> good morning
[08:59] <sod75> Is this a good forum to ask for help troubleshooting an issue ?
[08:59] <hateball> Yes, ask away
[08:59] <sod75> Hi,
[08:59] <lordievader> sod75: If it is Kubuntu related then this is the right place ;)
[09:00] <sod75> I'm having major issues for a while with plasma hanging/crashing when switching wetween user sessions
[09:01] <sod75> single user logged in all fine, but when I do a start new session, it only works half of the time
[09:01] <sod75> and when it works no guarantee I can switch back to the first, etc
[09:01] <sod75> I've googled but nothing major seems to pop up
[09:02] <sod75> it's also not straightforward consistant, also not sure where to look for error messages
[09:03] <sod75> kwin for the 'inactive' session goes 100% on one core is the most noteworthy thing I see
[09:03] <sod75> anyone seen this, any clues where to start looking ?
[09:04] <sod75> I'm on kubuntu 15.10 with backports enabled
[09:04] <sod75> the issues started already since upgrade to 15.04
[09:07] <soee_> sod75: what Plasma version are you running ?
[09:08] <sod75> what's a good way to check ?
[09:09] <sod75> ii  plasma-workspace                                4:5.5.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1          amd64        Plasma Workspace for KF5
[09:09] <soee_> ok so the latest available
[09:10] <soee_> *in Kubuntu :)
[09:10] <sod75> my experimental days are mostly over, i just need a stable desktop :)
[09:11] <sod75> only reason I enabled backports was hoping it would solve the issues, sadly no help
[09:11] <soee_> sod new session = you logged out and logged in ?
[09:11] <sod75> no, second user in parallel
[09:11] <soee_> so you are using teh switch user ?
[09:11] <sod75> and then switch with ctrl-alt F7 / F8
[09:12] <sod75> are via menu ( as my wife insists on doing
[09:12] <sod75> yes,switch user
[09:12] <soee_> so throuh different tty
[09:12] <sod75> s/are/or
[09:13] <soee_> well i never tried that tbh. hmm
[09:13] <sod75> I've been using it for years without issue
[09:13] <sod75> until plasma , that is
[09:15] <sod75> it works occasionally, but then after a while you can't switch sessions anymore, black screen/etc evenb completely hanging
[09:15] <soee_> and the problems are only with the new sessions and the previous one works fine ?
[09:16] <sod75> no, both tend to get screwed up. as in , I open 1, wife opens second , Some hours later I try to switch to mine at it won't work, can't switch, etc
[09:16] <sod75> even going back to the one that was working 2 seconds ago wo'nt work anymore
[09:16] <soee_> sod75: and if you try Usser Switch widget ?
[09:17] <sod75> same issue
[09:17] <soee_> meh so meybe there is some bug
[09:17] <sod75> maybe a bit less frequent since it seems to involve less steps then via menu options
[09:18] <sod75> s/then/than
[09:18] <sod75> I'm happy to open a bug report, but I'm not sure what and how to report
[09:19] <sod75> sicne I can't seem to find errors
[09:21] <sod75> although, I just noticed this :
[09:21] <sod75> [ 34550.688] (EE) NVIDIA: GPU:0: EVO Push buffer channel allocation failed
[09:21] <sod75> [ 34550.690] (EE) NVIDIA: GPU:0: Failed to allocate EVO core DMA push buffer
[09:21] <sod75> [ 34560.690] (WW) NVIDIA: GPU:0: Timed out detecting DP displays on DP-1
[09:21] <sod75> [ 34560.690] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failing initialization of X screen 0
[09:21] <sod75> in Xorg
[09:22] <hateball> which driver are you using sod75 ?
[09:22] <sod75> ii  nvidia-352                                      352.63-0ubuntu0.15.10.1                    amd64        NVIDIA binary driver - version 352.63
[09:23] <hateball> could always try using a PPA driver
[09:23] <hateball> seeing as how you already run plasma from ppa :p
[09:23] <hateball> sod75: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[09:24] <sod75> is that 361, I heard that introduced bugs in some steam games, some I'm hesitant. also given the issues has been around for a while...
[09:25] <sod75> ah it says that's fixed
[09:25] <hateball> sod75: I run 364, works fine
[09:26] <hateball> I dont think you need to export __GLVND_DISALLOW_PATCHING=1 any longer
[09:27] <hateball> This is the only game I have issues with https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/923657/linux/magica-2-fails-to-lanuch-on-361-28-disabled-glvnd-error-in-gl_render_device-gl_shader-cpp-238-bui/
[09:27] <hateball> at any rate it's simple to switch back to 352 or whatever
[09:27] <soee_> i am also on 364 and they work fine :)
[09:28] <sod75> Guess it's worth a shot
[09:28] <sod75> you guys know when Kubuntu 16.04 is coming out ?
[09:29] <ikonia> this month
[09:29] <sod75> as in march ?
[09:29] <sod75> wouldn't that be 16/03 then ;)
[09:29] <soee_> next month
[09:29] <soee_> April 21st
[09:30] <soee_> 16.04 (16 - 20016 ; 04 - april)
[09:30] <soee_> *2016
[09:30] <sod75> where's a good source for info on it ?
[09:30] <sod75> http://kubuntu.org/?s=16.04 is just sad
[09:30] <soee_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[09:31] <soee_> so today final beta will be released
[09:31] <soee_> april 14th Release Candidate than april 21st Final
[09:32] <sod75> cool, thx.
[11:21] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[12:05] <Guest40544> hello
[12:05] <Guest40544> I have a question for you, please respond.
[12:06] <krytarik> !ask | Guest40544
[12:06] <Guest40544> If i have ubuntu 14.04 with unity installed can install kubuntu-desktop like apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and use both of them without problems?
[12:07] <Guest40544> somebody, please
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Guest40544, yes, you can then choose which desktop you want to use at th elogin page
[12:08] <Guest40544> BluesKaj: Ok, thank you Sir, God Bless you and America.
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Guest65405, and Canada too ?
[12:09] <sod75> he's gone
[12:09] <sod75> so no !
[12:10] <BluesKaj> well , i don't suppose it means much anyway
[12:36] <LogicalDash> With a recent update (not sure which) I started having trouble opening the K menu. It seems like it might be trying to open on a secondary display that I've specifically disabled.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> LogicalDash, do you mean another launcher?
[12:48] <soee_> LogicalDash: what kind of menu are you using (alternative)?
[13:56] <Maxiride_> Hi everybody, I came right here to ask if it is normal that Okular takes like 10 seconds to load each page of a 10Mb PDF with 60 pages
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Maxiride_, that's not normal IME
[14:08] <Maxiride_> i've even tried using the greedy setting. the whole document still takes a lot to be loaded but at least once it's loaded it stays in memory
[14:08] <Maxiride_> what else can I try?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> pdfs are image files, so they do take longer to load than ordinary text files, and could be laden with artifacts
[14:11] <lordievader> Maxiride_: HDD or SSD?
[14:14] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Not totally accurate. you can embed Images into PDF files - but PDF files can also contain text.
[14:14] <Smurphy> Depending on the content, it can take long or not to load the PDF's. Really depends on the complexity of the input.
[14:14] <Smurphy> s/input/content/g
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, it was jusr a general description
[14:32] <meena> anyone else seen kwin_x11 (and plasmashell) crashes when you start chromium? https://gist.github.com/921e0f3e92f0be402fbf
[14:33] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Yeah :L)
[14:49] <meena> another thing: how do i tell kde's… package manager? to stop showing me that i can install flash? i don't want to install flash.
[17:41] <garvitdelhi> hey, how can update to the latest version of kde applications?
[18:05] <spanston> hey there, when will final kubuntu beta be released?
[18:07] <Smurphy> hey - I have no question. Just wanted to participate the the "hey" spree...
[18:09] <spanston> hey
[21:16] <Swipe-> will plasma 5.6 be shipped with 16.04?
[21:17] <tsimonq2> Swipe-: most likely not, FeatureFreeze has already been put into effect
[21:18] <tsimonq2> probably 16.10 though
 It will mostly be put into the backports once 16.04 is out
[21:19] <Swipe-> cool thx
[21:19] <Swipe-> 5.5 in 16.04 then?
 Yes
 It is in Beta2 now
[21:21] <Swipe-> 26th april final release?
 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule&ved=0ahUKEwjzrIq-oNrLAhUCXR4KHby2BXwQFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNFth4z6ferLqTZLrS8QimthhCioDw&sig2=Pqq1EqUCMkjujXkVl-IWFw
 Opps
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
 Yep 26th of April
[21:23] <Swipe-> looking forward to it
[21:27] <genii> To clarify, April 21st is the release day, not the 26th
 the release says 26
 opps
 I was looking at the read
 *red
[21:29] <Swipe-> 5 days less to wait :)
[21:44] <Fritigern> Ah! Everything is frozen now? Time to continue my tradition of upgrading about a month before final is out.
[21:46] <Fritigern> (With "everything" i mean final beta freeze. Other parts see their freeze in a few more weeks, but should not cause many issues for me)
[21:50] <mparillo> Not totally. Plasma 5.5.4 might be upgraded to 5.5.5, but not to 5.6
[21:56] <Fritigern> mparillo: Still shouldn;t cause many issues for me