[12:06] <phillw> flexiondotorg: ping
[13:35] <flexiondotorg> phillw, pong
[13:36] <phillw> hiyas flexiondotorg will you anytime for a couple l-ppc tests?
[13:36] <flexiondotorg> Not sure.
[13:36] <flexiondotorg> I just tested Ubuntu MATE on PPC and all was good.
[13:36] <phillw> the keyboard bug affecting all flavours is now in progress, there is a work around that works for server and desktop installs.
[13:37] <phillw> provied you have a us keyboard, you mean :P
[13:38] <phillw> Matheiu has pulled the two together, as the underlying issue must be the same with debian installer and ubiquity... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1549529
[13:50]  * flexiondotorg thinks phillw owes me ;-)
[13:51] <phillw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1359689 that's an interesting one ... desktop units only..... Never seen that suggested before
[13:53] <flexiondotorg> I can't reproduce that anymore, and that is using computers that previously exhibited the issue.
[13:53] <flexiondotorg> I'm dropping mention of that bug from the Ubuntu MATE release notes.
[13:53]  * flexiondotorg is downloading Lubuntu Desktop.
[13:54] <flexiondotorg> for PowerPC
[13:57] <phillw> flexiondotorg: it has that many dupes, and still shows as live, I'm just going to leave a mention :)
[14:04]  * flexiondotorg is burning lubuntu desktop ppc to DVD
[14:17] <phillw> thnx :)
[14:18] <phillw> 3rd desktop amd64 test underway, 1 to go.
[14:44] <phillw> yikes, there are more red bugs on the tracker than we see at an alpha1 ....
[14:45] <phillw> and ALL seem installer related.... what on earth did they do after Beta-1 ?
[14:56] <flexiondotorg> phillw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit2gtk/+bug/1561573
[14:58] <phillw> flexiondotorg: thanks, another one the list.... I've now added a "Do NOT upgrade" warning from 15.10 / 14.04 .... http://launchpad.net/bugs/1555237
[14:58] <phillw> that's pretty deadly!!!
[15:00] <phillw> I'll go and blow up a 15.10 install later!
[15:04] <flexiondotorg> phillw, I'm done testing Lubuntu Desktop PowerPC.
[15:04] <flexiondotorg> I've test launching application in live session.
[15:04] <flexiondotorg> And an install.
[15:05] <flexiondotorg> I've add a new bug and noted some that common across architectures.
[15:05] <phillw> thanks, any chance with alternate... just an install will confirm debian installer is as happy as expected.
[15:05] <flexiondotorg> Nope. I'm out of time.
[15:05] <phillw> okies, thanks a lot for your time.
[15:05] <flexiondotorg> You're welcome :-)
[15:06] <phillw> and this http://launchpad.net/bugs/1555237 worked fine earlier in the release, I have  a VM that ! took from 14.04.4 to 16.04
[16:04] <flexiondotorg> wxl, phillw How goes the Lubuntu testing? Any show stoppers?
[16:07] <phillw> flexiondotorg: no, the swap bug is a see it, or do not (and been around a while).... I don't see it. Everything else is on our release notes. Keyboard language has work around.... That's the only one that would concern me.
[16:12] <flexiondotorg> I put that 14.04 upgrade issue in a massive red warning at the top of the release notes. Ever though Ubuntu MATE is not technically affected.
[16:14]  * teward makes a note that keyboard layout selection is likely still borked
[16:17] <phillw> teward: I flagged it for ubuntu-server amd64, there is a simple work around and it, and ubiquity manifestation have been hearded into a room and can expect execution presently.
[16:18] <teward> phillw: right, cypermox is looking into it right now
[16:20] <phillw> teward: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1549529
[16:20] <phillw> he put them both together, the underlying cause is the same.
[16:20] <teward> phillw: yes, i know, remember I poked matsubara who's kept me in the loop
[16:21] <teward> and i had partial tracking in #u-release for some time discussing with cyphermox :)
[16:21] <phillw> that the      work around is the same, the underlying cause is most like the same :)
[16:21] <teward> also tracking the bug too :)
[16:21] <phillw> Yeah, I was on both
[16:21] <teward> phillw: indeed, though it's still a very bad headache - consider those with azerty keyboards, so US/English isn't going to work right
[16:22] <phillw> Nio confirmed by fix also worked for his crazy swedish bug that was driving him mad... A quick command call and it even writes to the config file, so no need to manually edit it... Got to be the easiest work around I've posted up in a long time!!!
[16:24] <teward> heheh
[16:25] <phillw> As soon as I saw it pull up the missing alt-install screen for kybd - I was quite sure I was on a winner :)
[16:26] <phillw> It does back a little further, but Nio had language issue, so no worries about it confirming from that stage :)
[16:46] <wxl> ok, finally taking a breath of fresh air again
[16:46] <wxl> how's it going everyone?
[16:52] <phillw> wxl: all but ppc-alt good to set as ready, flexiondotorg ran out of time.
[16:53] <wxl> phillw: sigh. i wonder how long it will be before ppc dies.
[16:53] <phillw> depends if I can actually source a bloody working one!!!
[16:53] <wxl> heheh
[16:53] <phillw> oops / delete expleteive
[16:54] <wxl> i'm not sure bloody quite counts. maybe i'm wrong. :)
[16:54] <wxl> Unit193: is "bloody" against the language rules? XD
[16:54] <phillw> i use blooming on #phillw
[16:57] <phillw> B2 release notes are also up to date... 14.04.4 --> 16.04 is currently warned against. I'm doing a 15.10 --> 16.04 at present and will amend the notes if it is successful.
[16:58] <phillw> MATE report success for 32 and 64 bit.
[16:58] <wxl> phillw: thanks for all the help. i kind of disappeared due to personal issues. sorry about that.
[17:00] <phillw> It cross my mind where you'd vanished to!!! Hope all is now sorted / in process of being sorted.
[17:00] <wxl> yeah i think we're good now :)
[17:04] <tsimonq2> *yawn*
[17:04] <phillw> morning tsimonq2
[17:04] <tsimonq2> twitter tells me https://twitter.com/omgubuntu/status/712955245777797120
[17:04] <tsimonq2> status?
[17:04] <wxl> woo hoo spring break
[17:04] <tsimonq2> and how can I help?
[17:04] <tsimonq2> yeah totally :D
[17:05] <tsimonq2> (I'm actually building an app for the Ubuntu Touch store, nothing fancy, but still :D)
[17:05] <wxl> i guess i should mark as ready, eh phillw ?
[17:05] <phillw> tsimonq2: I'm not sure, there are a lot of red installer bugs about - not sure what the release team are going to do.
[17:05] <wxl> oic
[17:05] <wxl> we're waiting to hear from them
[17:06] <phillw> wxl: mark ours as, sure.
[17:06] <tsimonq2> I'll read backlogs quick
[17:07] <phillw> wxl there are no bugs specific to B2 ppc-alternate, slide show is ubiquity, language is common to all flavours etc.... I'd be minded to let ppc alt out into the wild - maybe some one would test it?
[17:08] <tsimonq2> wxl: I broke my freaking Pi 3, SD card slot is fcuked up, either that or the SD card itself, I get stuck at rainbow screen and I see some bent connectors looking at the Pi
[17:08] <tsimonq2> *sigh* another $35
[17:08] <tsimonq2> anyways
[17:08] <wxl> phillw: i think i'm just going to do it, with desktop having succeeded
[17:08] <wxl> bummer tsimonq2
[17:08] <phillw> wxl: that would be my mindeset... I'd not do for final, but... what the heck :)
[17:09] <tsimonq2> I'm at mom's if you guys need final QA tests
[17:09] <wxl> heheheh i ktend to agree phillw
[17:09] <tsimonq2> sorry for waking up late, I statrted my app at 3 AM :)
[17:09] <phillw> brb ... DDT
[17:18] <phillw> back
[17:23] <phillw> wxl: when you plough the emails, I emailed Julien to let him know the alts had snook over size... But, so has server iso!!!
[17:23] <wxl> phillw: oh jeez! wtf!
[17:24] <phillw> is okay, I had server ISO as the issue with keyboard needed checking on the other debian-installer system :)
[17:25] <phillw> 15.10 --> 16.04 is working, I'll ammend the notes.
[17:34] <phillw> done
[18:37] <phillw> wxl: do they expect a release today? With the wolf on light-duties, looks like I'm on comms as well !!!
[19:43] <wxl> phillw: we are releasing today!
[19:46] <phillw> okies.... I spent 5 hours solid testing, bugs and wiki ..... I've now opened a bottle of wine, so you will be doing ML announcement and lubuntu.me.... I'll do FB, G+ and as lubuntu follows me on twitter - I can do that one as well.   We will be missing a couple off the list, but it is a milestone test not a full release .... We are borg, we will adapt :)
[19:48] <wxl> phillw: yeah i can take care of that. heck, i can take care of the social media stuff, if you need to conk out.
[19:48] <phillw> is okay... I'm used to that....
[19:48] <wxl> phillw: ok. trying to get logged into the freaking wiki right now.
[19:49] <phillw> Oh, can you check up on the asian contingent complaint, the guy reporting is a good guy and pretty much kick started our translations team for RL.
[19:50] <phillw> wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta2/Lubuntu
[19:50] <phillw> is notes,
[19:50] <wxl> great, thanks!
[19:51] <phillw> the comment from Keiichi Shiga on Fb does need following up. I've provided the release notes, so if they have queries we will take on board and escalate - it is scary to lose this at this point in the cycle :/
[19:52] <phillw> Julien nailed it last release, but is a full distro cock up.
[19:52] <wxl> these problems affect all flavors, or just us?
[19:53] <phillw> language and keboards seems to be everything from server to desktop Unity
[19:53] <wxl> well that's reassuring, even this late in the cycle
[19:53] <wxl> it means there are many eyes on it
[19:54] <wxl> ubuntu proper has a very vocal international community, so they won't get a release without a lot of serious gnashing of the teeth!
[19:54] <phillw> The work around is kool, and it is being crawled over... but a fix for everyone would have meant re-spining the world... Hence my asking, earlier
[19:56] <phillw> wxl: as to how the messed it up after B1 to B2?..... Pass.... And I've not ranted at anyone, just sent an email to the release team explaining that there was a large elephant in the room that appeared to affect everyone on en-us ..... Which they declined, but it would have been red :P
[19:56] <phillw> *read*
[19:57] <phillw> 14.04.4 --> 16.04 also now kills, it was working earlier in the cycle..... :: SHRUGS ::
[19:57] <wxl> ugh
[19:58] <phillw> wxl:  Not seen so many red bugs on installer mess ups..... ever.... and this is an LTS???? VERY scary
[19:59] <wxl> phillw: needless to say, someone's going to get their hands slapped when the culprit is discovered
[19:59] <phillw> all was working in B1, so some group accepted changes in.
[19:59] <wxl> yep
[20:00] <phillw> AFTER FF
[20:00] <phillw> of is that FF for FFS :P
[20:02] <phillw> wxl: oh, and we gained https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/1551446
[20:03] <phillw> which is a bit of a PITA, I've not old Julien the "good news",  I did over sized ALT iso's.... your turn, else he will think all I ever send him is bad news :P
[20:04] <wxl> i think we had that one before though, didn't we, phillw ?
[20:04] <phillw> wxl: as for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit2gtk/+bug/1561573 as the PPC contact for lubuntu, you need to liase with flexio from MATE on this
[20:05] <phillw> wxl: yeah, but it's back....
[20:06] <phillw> from reading the black wallpaper bug, it is start up order... it may be an easy fix for Julien, but he has to be told of it :)......
[21:46] <phillw> flexiondotorg: I had fish finger butties last week, with a 1/2 tin of baked beans.... They are not the same without baked beans!!!!
[21:59] <phillw> wxl: flexiondotorg had a chat with jibel, indeed the keyboard language bug complete with work around is no longer high, but he is happy to have been told of the   bug. I'm still a good boi :D
[22:00] <teward> phillw: you mean the d-i bug?
[22:00] <phillw> Now, let me try that again, in English!!!!
[22:02] <phillw> The language + kbd bug will be rolled out, jibel was no aware of it and appreciates that is can have a major impact on people. He will "quietly" ensure that his attention.
[22:05] <phillw> and I didn't even get kicked from #ubuntu-release - got to chat with one and it was a good day..... Now, food :D :D
[22:11] <phillw> wxl: and flexiondotorg ... been a long day, but THIS has put a smile on my face......
[22:11] <phillw> (22:07:23) stgraber: infinity: desktop belongs to no drupal role, so that means only the release team has admin access to the product
[22:11] <phillw> (22:07:26) infinity: stgraber: Right, I found that.
[22:11] <phillw> (22:07:45) infinity: stgraber: Can't be only the release team, jibel can twiddle it.
[22:33] <drab> anybody around with a suggestion for master configs to lock settings for a mass deployment of lubuntu?
[22:33] <drab> I'm having trouble to figure out where to put a bunch of custom settings to apply system wide on a school computer lab
[22:34] <drab> in the past on ubuntu I could use dconf/gconf and lock settings, but now seeing how to do that with lunbut/lxde/openbox
[22:35] <drab> also I'm trying to customize lxsession-logout, but looking at the code it's not clear to me how to se policy so that students cannot shut down the computer, but just logout, and to make the buttons horizontal (since that's what most kids are used to on windows at home)