[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[08:20] <LibreSponge> dholbach: Hiya . Do you have a Toshiba ? http://redd.it/4bqety
[08:30] <tsimonq2> morning dholbach :)
[08:30] <tsimonq2> (still CDT :P)
[08:31] <davidcalle> Good morning o/
[08:33] <tsimonq2> morning davidcalle :)
[08:33] <LibreSponge> davidcalle:  Hiya Have no fear Ubuntu tablet is here, err, On monday.
[08:34] <davidcalle> :)
[08:34] <dholbach> LibreSponge, no, I don't
[08:34] <dholbach> hi tsimonq2
[08:35] <LibreSponge> dholbach: right-oh.
[08:35] <LibreSponge> It's just not often that I hit 'new' posts on reddit :)
[08:50] <LibreSponge> dholbach: The team at Ubucon, not sure the year ! http://bit.ly/UbuntuWings
[08:51] <dholbach> it was this year
[08:51] <dholbach> just a few weeks ago
[08:51] <LibreSponge> Ahh, ok.
[08:51] <dholbach> at SCaLE or UbuCon Summit
[08:51] <popey> I bought one toshiba laptop and one toshiba chromebook. never again
[08:52] <LibreSponge> I got it from swapnil
[08:52] <LibreSponge> popey, HP or asus chromebook is the question, these days.
[09:18] <tsimonq2> popey: why not? just curious :)
[09:21] <popey> why not what?
[09:21] <popey> oh, toshiba? poor build quality
[09:24] <LibreSponge> Do good usb 16GB. though. and card readers.
[09:44]  * dholbach relocates to the office, bbiab
[09:56] <dpm> popey, rmann wanted to talk about the meetup in London, but I'm off in about 2 hours today. Would you mind giving her a hand with some questions she had? I told her she could ping you directly, if that's ok
[09:56] <popey> yup
[09:56] <dpm> cool, thanks
[13:04] <jcastro> popey: ask me what I have sitting on my disk right now.
[13:05] <dholbach> davidcalle, mhall119, popey: are you going to be around for http://pad.ubuntu.com/doc-team later on?
[13:06] <popey> jcastro: What do you have on your disk right now? Is it ZFS?
[13:06] <jcastro> no
[13:06] <jcastro> it is a tarball
[13:06] <jcastro> of the ubuntu wiki
[13:07] <jcastro> and the ubuntu wiki attachments
[13:07] <popey> O_O
[13:07] <jcastro> I literally just filed an RT last week and they were like, sweet, good luck, here you go!
[13:08] <popey> wow
[13:09] <jcastro> so I was thinking
[13:09] <jcastro> if we can find someone to try the conversion scripts and mangle stuff
[13:09] <jcastro> we can provide AWS creds and the charms to do it
[13:09] <jcastro> so someone needs to just basically do the conversion to mysql.
[13:09] <jcastro> then we ask IS to redeploy on prodstack and then just do a mysqldump from one to the other.
[13:10] <jcastro> assuming a) That's what people want to do
[13:10] <jcastro> and b) someone wants to try these moin->mediawiki scripts for conversion
[13:10] <davidcalle> dholbach: at what time is it?
[13:10] <popey> yeah, people can do it on their local machine though?
[13:10] <popey> maybe do it with sample size chunks of the wiki
[13:10] <jcastro> they sure can
[13:10] <dholbach> davidcalle, 1h20m
[13:11] <jcastro> It takes about 10 minutes to fire up in lxd
[13:12] <davidcalle> dholbach: is it the meeting *with* the doc team? I thought it was later in the day
[13:13] <davidcalle> dholbach: in any case, yes, I'll be there
[13:33] <mhall119> dholbach: I am, yes
[13:36] <dholbach> davidcalle, mhall119: cool
[13:36] <dholbach> davidcalle, yes, with the team
[14:29] <dholbach> davidcalle, mhall119, popey: where's the meeting?
[14:31] <davidcalle> dholbach: looking. Maybe ubuntu-doc?
[14:31] <knome> #ubuntu-meeting
[14:32] <knome> but no dpm there, so waiting
[14:33] <dholbach> knome, dpm is travelling, he read his calendar wrong
[14:33] <dholbach> ah cool
[14:33] <knome> in that case i don't think there is a meeting
[14:33] <dholbach> davidcalle, mhall119, popey: #ubuntu-meeting
[14:33] <knome> or will you be running it, dholbach ?
[14:33] <dholbach> knome, I think we can started without him
[14:34] <knome> uhmm.
[14:34] <knome> defeats the purpose if he isn't around
[14:34] <knome> unless somebody else has put the same amount of time into looking at the issue at hand
[14:35] <dholbach> knome, he's very sorry, but the rest of the community team is going to be there
[14:36] <knome> dholbach, will the community team run the meeting then?
[14:36] <knome> does anybody of the community team have an idea what we are talking about, or are you just turning around?
[14:37] <dholbach> knome, yes we're going to be there and we were involved in the discussions on the mailing list and will listen and take notes
[14:37] <dholbach> and we've been around in the community too
[14:37] <knome> okay.
[14:45] <knome> dholbach, this is a disaster
[14:46] <dholbach> knome, let's get started slowly - no need to be frustrated in the first minutes already :)
[14:46] <knome> dholbach, this is not first minutes, this is what the docs team has done for years
[14:46] <dholbach> this attitude does not help
[14:46] <knome> dholbach, maybe you get a taste of what we mean by not being able to make decisions now
[14:47] <dholbach> we're getting together to work things out
[14:47] <knome> what attitude exactly?
[14:47] <knome> oh we are?
[14:47] <knome> :)
[14:47] <dholbach> you're clearly frustrated
[14:47] <knome> please don't tell me how i feel
[14:47] <dholbach> the community team just came here to listen and understand the problems better
[14:47] <knome> sure.
[14:48] <dholbach> and you're just saying that this is a disaster when we haven't even talked for more than 10 minutes
[14:48] <knome> yes, because the meeting time is not going to be used to resolve the issues we have.
[14:49] <dholbach> we can have more meetings if we need more time
[14:49] <dholbach> and we're going to need some time to better understand this
[14:50] <knome> okay.
[15:00] <knome> dholbach, how much time have you got arranged for the meeting?
[15:07] <knome> mhall119, how much time have you got arranged for the meeting?
[15:07] <mhall119> knome: no idea, it wsn't even on my calendar
[15:08] <knome> mhall119, how much time can you spend on it today?
[15:08]  * mhall119 has nothing pressing in the next hour
[15:08] <knome> okay, good to know
[16:25]  * dholbach relocates
[17:24] <dholbach> all right... I call it a day - have a good one!
[19:20] <pleia2> mhall119: was going to join meeting, but jetlag and other things conspired to give me a poor night sleep, didn't wake up in time (and admittedly, 7:30AM was already a stretch)
[19:24] <mhall119> pleia2: that's okay, we had a pretty good meeting I think
[19:24] <mhall119> came out of it with action items and another meeting scheduled for next week anyway :)
[19:25] <pleia2> hah, great :)
[20:11] <willcooke> HI gang.  If anyone has a spare 30 mins and a virtual machine, could they run a test from the ISO tracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/358/builds/115349/testcases
[20:11] <willcooke> i386 is what's needed most right now
[20:17]  * popey looks
[20:17] <popey> hey willcooke
[20:17] <willcooke> hihi
[20:18] <popey> have you posted this everywhere
[20:18] <popey> ?
[20:19] <willcooke> I haven't
[20:20] <popey> might want to ping the ubuntu-quality list
[20:20] <popey> balloons: that's normal right?
[20:20]  * popey is testing while watching masterchef
[20:21] <popey> well, i would if it didnt take 2 hours to get an iso from cdimage :)
[20:21] <willcooke> I'm rather hoping that we'll be done in the next hour, so wasn't sure it was worth bothering mailing lists and such
[20:21] <popey> ok
[20:21] <popey> i cant even get the iso :(
[20:21] <balloons> popey, :-) uk version of mastchef is quite different
[20:22] <popey> heh
[20:22] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMg3epr53Ns
[20:23] <willcooke> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=towd9vZWDJg
[20:24] <popey> haha
[20:29] <balloons> if the base didn't do it, vic and bob clip did
[20:29] <balloons> I've no idea what willcooke linked
[20:34] <balloons> reminds me of big chuck and little john. talk about even more obscure pop culture references
[20:41] <wxl> balloons: big chuck and little john???? where are you from that you know who they are?
[20:41] <balloons> ohh boy.. mysteries abound now
[20:42] <wxl> balloons: i thought they were an ohio only thing. i was on the show once when i was in boy scouts
[20:43] <balloons> whoa.. spooky
[20:45] <wxl> balloons: http://bigchuckandliljohn.com/crazylaugh.wav
[22:38]  * tsimonq2 gives up on btrfs
[22:38] <tsimonq2> sbuild won't work with it... :/
[22:41] <popey> how so?
[22:42] <tsimonq2> it's incompatible with aufs, so I get an error when I try to start a build
[22:42] <tsimonq2> a workaround is to mount /tmp as a tmpfs, but I really don't like doing that
[22:43] <wxl> tsimonq2: everytime you mount /tmp as tmpfs god saves a kitten
[22:43] <tsimonq2> wxl: how so? lol
[22:44] <wxl> tsimonq2: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/01/data-driven-analysis-tmp-on-tmpfs.html
[22:44] <tsimonq2> lol yeah I've seen that
[22:45] <tsimonq2> but not everyone always has a lot of RAM
[22:45] <tsimonq2> (although I did recently get an upgrade to 16 GB from 8 :D)
[23:58] <hggdh> on very few cases tmp cannot be mounted on tmpfs. Unless you are doing someting like building firefox, the kernel, or similar, you should not have a problem if you are running with 16G on main