[05:39] <anton_may> It's the llllllooooooonnnnnggggggg weekend baby!!!!!! Good morning all
[05:42] <anton_may> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CuqbMZ4uu0TkvYVoEQlcszKUYprdxvcEGQ/view?usp=sharing
[05:59] <superfly> Hehehe, morning anton_may 
[05:59] <superfly> Hi Cryterion 
[06:02] <Cryterion> morning
[06:08] <superfly> Kilos: morning sleepy head 
[06:08] <Kilos> morning everybodyyyyyy
[06:09] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[06:10]  * superfly needs to stop with this late night thing 
[06:10] <superfly> *yawn*
[06:11] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy chesedo inetpro anton_may captine dlPhreak SilverCode Squirm nuvolari 
[06:11] <Kilos> yes superfly you need to sleep at night man
[06:11] <Kilos> 7 hours a night
[06:11] <chesedo> morning Kilos anton_may superfly and others
[06:12] <anton_may> elllooooo
[06:12] <superfly> Meh. Sleeping is for babies. 
[06:12] <Kilos> nono
[06:12] <Kilos> sleeping is necessary for good health
[06:12] <superfly> Kilos: and old ballies like you :-P
[06:12] <Kilos> hahahaha
[06:12] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[06:13] <mazal> Mornings
[06:13] <superfly> Morning mazal 
[06:13] <mazal> Hey superfly , oom Kilos
[06:13] <superfly> This latest version of quasseldroid is really nice 
[06:13]  * chesedo one of both then... he still likes his sleeps
[06:14] <chesedo> hi mazal
[06:14] <Kilos> sleep is natures way of healing the days stress and bad eating habits
[06:15] <Kilos> dont learn bad habits from the night owls chesedo 
[06:15] <superfly> Hahaha
[06:15] <mazal> hi chesedo
[06:15] <chesedo> no worries Kilos, pulled an all nighter once and did not like its affects on my eyes
[06:16] <Kilos> everything suffers not just eyes
[06:16] <Kilos> only eyes are most obviously noted
[06:17] <chesedo> superfly: which changes in quasseldroid?
[06:17] <Kilos> why when we got flu and other yucky bugs we sleep lots
[06:19] <superfly> chesedo: bigger and better icons for buttons 
[06:19] <superfly> Slightly more fluid 
[06:19] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:19] <superfly> Ohi thatgraemeguy 
[06:20] <chesedo> hi thatgraemeguy
[06:21]  * chesedo 's only has a single button
[06:22] <chesedo> wow, just discovered it also has tab completion
[06:22] <Kilos> lol
[06:33] <mazal> uhm....Ok so I can eat more burgers as long as I sleep more :)
[06:33] <mazal> That's sounds like a win win hehehe
[06:33] <Kilos> ai!
[06:33] <chesedo> mazal just make sure you dream of exercising
[06:33] <chesedo> :P
[06:33] <mazal> kewl :)
[06:33] <Kilos> youll just get fat then need knee and hip replacements
[06:34] <mazal> Well the knee thing is already a problem anyway
[06:34] <Kilos> and hyou weigh what?
[06:34] <mazal> Last time I weighed was 102
[06:35] <mazal> But it was with clothes on , so probably 98
[06:35] <Kilos> you can try recover cartilage damage but taking a teaspoon of gelatine daily
[06:35] <Kilos> to fat
[06:36] <Kilos> and you how tall?
[06:36] <mazal> 1.82
[06:36] <Kilos> whew so nearly look like a beachball
[06:36] <mazal> My knee is from years of sport
[06:36] <Kilos> gelatine will help
[06:36] <Kilos> no moirs jelly
[06:37] <Kilos> pure gelatine
[06:37] <Kilos> no sugar in it
[06:37]  * Cryterion thinks Kilo's is trying to turn mazal into a marshmellow
[06:37] <Kilos> it rebuilds the soft tissue in joints
[06:37] <Kilos> hahaha
[06:37] <dlPhreak> Morning
[06:38] <Kilos> weight dlPhreak ?
[06:38] <Kilos> we on a health kick
[06:40] <dlPhreak> 686Newton
[06:41] <dlPhreak> Give or take
[06:42] <Kilos> what is that in english
[06:44] <dlPhreak> The product of my mass and the acceleration of gravity in kg.m/s?
[06:44] <Kilos> ai!
[06:44] <dlPhreak> ^__^
[06:44] <dlPhreak> 70kg
[06:45] <Kilos> thats ok
[06:45] <Kilos> you escape the daily lecture
[06:46] <dlPhreak> Awh no why? I like lectures.
[06:46] <Kilos> haha
[06:46] <Kilos> mazal already hiding away
[06:48] <mazal> Got busy sorry oom
[06:48] <Kilos> ek terg man
[06:48] <mazal> I am gonna try that gelotine thing
[06:49] <mazal> Do I just take a spoon clean like that every day ?
[06:49] <Kilos> it works
[06:49] <Kilos> i started taking it in water but easier to sprinkle on food and mix it in
[06:49] <Kilos> has no flavour
[06:50] <Kilos> every day ya
[06:50] <mazal> I wonder what they will think at the road house if I open my burger and put that on
[06:50] <Kilos> in water you have to put it in a bit of cold water then add hot so it can disolve then wait till cool before you can drink it
[06:51] <Kilos> lol
[06:51] <mazal> I think easiest will be to just take a sppon full and eat it as is
[06:51] <mazal> But vrek sleg probably
[06:51] <Kilos> burgers are lekker but not very healthy
[06:51] <Kilos> its just dry powder
[06:52] <Kilos> and like that on your tongue you will sukkel to swallow it
[06:55] <dlPhreak> What's this do?
[06:59] <Kilos> rebuilds worn cartilage in joints and soine
[06:59] <Kilos> spine
[07:00] <anton_may> Dry gelotine?
[07:00] <Kilos> disolve it first
[07:01] <Kilos> or sprinkle on food
[07:01] <Kilos> i prefer the food way because then you dont have to wait for water to cool down first
[07:02] <Kilos> mazal eat more fish as well
[07:02] <mazal> I didn't know you get dry gelotine
[07:03] <Kilos> yes comes in boxes
[07:03] <mazal> hmm
[07:03] <anton_may> injured my knee ligaments more than a decade ago in action cricket. So my ligaments are busted.
[07:03] <mazal> anton_may: I have same problem. Was a cricketer from 9 to 35
[07:03] <Kilos> i will most likely help
[07:03] <mazal> Knee is shot
[07:04] <anton_may> yea poped my knee last night. Ligaments dam sore today now
[07:04] <Kilos> many body parts can regenerate if you eat the right foods
[07:04] <anton_may> Kewl thanks
[07:05] <anton_may> I repsume dischem should have
[07:05] <anton_may> presume
[07:06] <Kilos> most supermarkets should have
[07:07] <Kilos> i have a fone number for the makers
[07:07] <Kilos> 011 2106260
[07:07] <Kilos> i dunno where Dunkeld is
[07:08] <anton_may> Oh, kewl it's aroung the cornor from work
[07:08] <Kilos> wow
[07:08] <Kilos> called Sheridans
[07:08] <anton_may> Thanks
[07:08] <Kilos> yw
[07:09] <Kilos> just remember no natural things work overnight like meds
[07:09] <Kilos> 62nHume road
[07:09] <Kilos> 62
[07:10] <Kilos> hi Langjan wat het gebreek
[07:11] <Kilos> hehe
[07:11] <mazal> Maaz I hope you took notes
[07:11] <Maaz> mazal: Sorry...
[07:11] <mazal> maaz don't be sorry be careful
[07:11] <Maaz> mazal: What?
[07:11] <Langjan> Hi Kilos hoesit? How did the meeting go?
[07:11] <Langjan> lmga
[07:11] <Kilos> lekker dankie oom
[07:11] <anton_may> 9 km from work
[07:12] <Langjan> moi so sorry I could not make it
[07:12] <Kilos> np sir
[07:12] <mazal> Yeah !!!!!!!!
[07:12] <mazal> Just gor word
[07:12] <mazal> got*
[07:12] <Kilos> Maaz last minutes
[07:12] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-03-22-18-30-07.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-03-22-18-30-07.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-03-22-18-30-07.html
[07:12] <mazal> We may leave at 10 today :)
[07:12] <Langjan> ny visa updates?
[07:12] <Langjan> Any
[07:12] <Kilos> nothing Langjan 
[07:13] <Kilos> so frustreating
[07:13] <Langjan> Eish! 
[07:13] <Kilos> and winter is hear
[07:13] <chesedo> anton_may: you talking about petellar dislocation
[07:13] <Kilos> meeting can be read here
[07:13] <Langjan> Ja! Cold in Melbourne
[07:13] <Kilos> http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-03-22-18-30-07.json
[07:14] <mazal> Can I ask a dumb question ?
[07:14] <Kilos> just ask
[07:14] <Kilos> dont ask to ask
[07:14] <mazal> What format is json ?
[07:14] <Kilos> ask  inetpro 
[07:14] <Kilos> hehe
[07:14] <mazal> oi
[07:14] <Langjan> Bad news, my 14.04 on main desktop is broken!
[07:14] <Kilos> oh sorry
[07:15] <Kilos> http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-03-22-18-30-07.txt
[07:15] <mazal> Looks like raw code
[07:15] <chesedo> mazal: javascript object notation
[07:15] <Kilos> weong link
[07:15] <Kilos> wrong
[07:15] <mazal> chesedo: thanx
[07:16] <chesedo> mazal: most APIs use it or XML
[07:17] <mazal> When I see code my head stops working lol
[07:17] <chesedo> no, like XML, it is more of a structure than code
[07:19] <Langjan> You there Kilos ?
[07:20] <Kilos> yessir
[07:20] <chesedo> also almost like a noSQL... just can not remember what it is called again
[07:20] <Langjan> Probs today!
[07:20] <anton_may> chesedo: don't know what it's called, but it's dam sore
[07:20] <chesedo> ...non relational
[07:20] <Kilos> what ??
[07:20] <anton_may> luckily have a dr friend
[07:21] <chesedo> anton_may: feels like cap fell of to the side?
[07:21] <chesedo> off
[07:21] <Langjan> 14.04 on main desktop menus go fuzzy then freeze
[07:21] <anton_may> yea and ligaments
[07:21] <chesedo> yip, crushing them... 
[07:22] <Kilos> uh oh
[07:22] <Kilos> i was working fine Langjan ?
[07:22] <anton_may> he is more of a tottie dr, but he will do
[07:22] <Langjan> tried to repair broken packages, only helped a little while
[07:23] <chesedo> lol
[07:23] <Kilos> sudo touch /forcefsck and reboot
[07:23] <Langjan> Updates are running, mouse is working but menus go funny, ok let me try that thks
[07:23] <Kilos> fsck will look for the errors
[07:24] <Kilos> is the drive good?
[07:24] <Langjan> just finishing some updates first
[07:24] <Langjan> dont know, its my new-ish ssd
[07:24] <anton_may> luv the new apt only cmd
[07:25] <Kilos> oh there is some work to do on ssds
[07:25] <Langjan> like what?
[07:25] <Kilos> they do things differenttly
[07:25] <Kilos> theblazehen you here
[07:26] <Kilos> they dont rempve stuff you delete just overwrite
[07:26] <Kilos> theblazehen helped me
[07:26] <Kilos> somewhere you add a script
[07:27] <Langjan> I recently installed FSlint and deleted many files, could that be it?
[07:27] <Kilos> i dunno
[07:27] <Kilos> its some thing to do with discard
[07:27] <Kilos> i think
[07:28] <Kilos> Maaz how to setup discard option on ssd with ubuntu
[07:28] <Maaz> Kilos: Excuse me?
[07:28] <Kilos> ai!
[07:28] <Kilos> Maaz google how to setup discard option on ssd with ubuntu
[07:28] <Maaz> Kilos: "SSDOptimization - Debian Wiki" https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization :: "ssd - How to enable TRIM? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim :: "How to properly activate TRIM for your SSD on Linux: fstrim, lvm and ..." http://blog.neutrino.es/2013/howto-properly-activate-trim-for-your-ssd-on-linux-fstrim-lvm-and-dmcrypt/ ::
[07:28] <Maaz> "SSD: how to optimize your Solid State Drive for Linux Mint 17.3 ..." https://sites.google.c…
[07:28] <Kilos> oh ya trim
[07:29] <Kilos> thats the function
[07:29] <Langjan> trm was done on my installation
[07:29] <Langjan> trim
[07:29] <Kilos> when i found it i found a command you can run weekly
[07:30] <Langjan> oh
[07:30] <Kilos> the theblazehen showed me how to make it automatic
[07:30] <Langjan> sounds like good
[07:30] <Kilos> but i dont remember where it was donr
[07:30] <Kilos> done
[07:30] <Langjan> can you remember?
[07:30] <Langjan> eish!
[07:31] <Kilos> when theblazehen wakes up ill ask
[07:31] <Langjan> What you got so many memories for?
[07:31] <Langjan> lmga
[07:31] <Kilos> to fill and hurt my head
[07:31] <Kilos> they help keep ears apart
[07:32] <Langjan> nee man al jou memory fasiliteite op jou rekenaars
[07:32] <Kilos> huh
[07:33] <Kilos> oh you mean i shoulda saved it
[07:33] <Langjan> bobbejaantjie se huh
[07:33] <Langjan> ja ou man
[07:33] <Kilos> maybe i did but i forgot
[07:33] <anton_may> http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim
[07:33] <Langjan> wheres your index? or search?
[07:34] <Langjan> thks anton
[07:34] <anton_may> np
[07:34] <Langjan> Kilos,  wifey is calling for breakfast can we recess a while please?
[07:34] <Kilos> yessir
[07:34] <Kilos> enjoy
[07:35] <Langjan> thks
[07:40] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a blessed weekend
[07:40] <pavlushka> o/ all
[07:40] <anton_may> cheers mazal
[07:40] <anton_may> ello pavlushka
[07:42] <pavlushka> ello anton_may !
[07:43] <Kilos> so pavlushka how the python LPI studies going
[07:44] <Kilos> python + LPI
[07:44] <Kilos> if you dont study youll end up as a greeter bot
[07:46] <pavlushka> on your words, Kilos 
[07:46] <Kilos> lol
[07:55] <Langjan> Kilos, according to that site, trim should be automatically activated on my Intel ssd
[07:55] <Kilos> ok so then lets hope fsck fixes the prob
[07:59] <Langjan> here's hoping
[08:02] <Langjan> Problem still there
[08:02] <Kilos> oh my
[08:02] <Kilos> ok where the clever peeps
[08:04] <Kilos> tell again what it does
[08:04] <Kilos> something then freezes
[08:05] <Langjan> as soon as I click on any menu the app opens, then goed fuzzy and freezes
[08:05] <Langjan> same hapens to task bar
[08:06] <anton_may> can you pastebin the syslog?
[08:06] <Kilos> any app?
[08:06] <Langjan> al the appp descriptions come up then freeze on the screen 
[08:07] <Langjan> sorry anton_may I dont know what that means - pastebin the syslog
[08:07] <anton_may> ok hold on
[08:07] <Kilos> copy paste it to http://bin.snyman.info
[08:07] <Langjan> copy and ppaste what?
[08:07] <Kilos> i think
[08:07] <anton_may> /var/log/syslog
[08:08] <Kilos> cat /var/log/syslog
[08:08] <Langjan> run in terminal?
[08:08] <Kilos> go on ty aton
[08:08] <anton_may> yip
[08:11] <Langjan> ok done sending
[08:12] <Kilos> anton_may remember Langjan is more ballie than me
[08:12] <anton_may> LoL I know
[08:13] <Langjan> Ja seuntjie, onthou dit! Lmga
[08:13] <Kilos> but doesnt want to listen either
[08:13] <anton_may> Jammer pa
[08:13] <Kilos> unity always has some or other hassles
[08:13] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[08:13] <magespawn> googd morning
[08:13] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[08:14] <anton_may> 0/ megespwan
[08:14] <Langjan> Did you receive anton_may ?
[08:14] <anton_may> um nope
[08:14] <magespawn> hi anton_may Langjan 
[08:14] <Kilos> you supposed to past it to the bin Langjan 
[08:14] <Langjan> hi magespawn 
[08:14] <Kilos> then give the link it generates
[08:15] <Kilos> submit is at page bottom
[08:15] <Langjan> bin.snyman.info/mmn6jwxt
[08:15] <Kilos> then youll see the link change
[08:15] <Kilos> slijan
[08:15] <Kilos> slimjan ook
[08:16] <anton_may> got it
[08:16] <Langjan> good thks
[08:17] <magespawn> also if the link or info is supposed to be private then it might be a good idea to post it in a private message
[08:18] <Kilos> yes
[08:31] <anton_may> Langjan looks like Intel graphics driver problems
[08:32] <anton_may> fb: conflicting fb hw usage inteldrmfb vs VESA VGA - removing generic driver
[08:32] <Langjan> thks anton_may so what do I need to do - 
[08:33] <anton_may> Just looking what is the newest drivers.
[08:34] <anton_may> Which OS are you running?
[08:34] <Kilos> slim oukie nee om Langjan 
[08:34] <Kilos> 14.04
[08:34] <Langjan> Ubuntu 14.04
[08:34] <anton_may> 64?
[08:34] <Kilos> for once he listened
[08:34] <Langjan> julle is almal slim oukies, oulik ook
[08:35] <Kilos> 64?
[08:35] <anton_may> x64 or i386
[08:35] <Langjan> 64?
[08:35] <Kilos> 386 i think
[08:35] <anton_may> 64bit or 32bit
[08:35] <Langjan> oh, 32 bit
[08:35] <Kilos> oh
[08:35] <Kilos> 32
[08:35] <anton_may> ko
[08:35] <anton_may> ok
[08:39] <anton_may> Ok, lets first see if this update will work
[08:39] <anton_may> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-utopic xserver-xorg-lts-utopic libqt5gui5 libgles1-mesa-lts-utopic libgles2-mesa-lts-utopic libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-utopic libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-utopic:i386 libglapi-mesa-lts-utopic:i386 libegl1-mesa-drivers-lts-utopic
[08:40] <Langjan> Eish I'm on a different machine, will try to copy andpaste via memory stick
[08:40] <Kilos> lol
[08:40] <anton_may> ok
[08:41] <Kilos> anton_may you use unity?
[08:41] <anton_may> home yes
[08:42] <anton_may> work mint 17
[08:42] <Kilos> only brave and clever peeps can do that
[08:42] <Langjan> Kilos, how do I copy from xchat? Mouse not working
[08:42] <Kilos> ctrl+c
[08:42] <Kilos> oh you cant highlight it even
[08:43] <Kilos> ill mail it to you
[08:44] <Langjan> tbird also us
[08:44] <Kilos> whats wrong with mouse now
[08:45] <Langjan> not working to copy from xchat, came right, running command now
[08:46] <Langjan> 7 minutes to download
[08:46] <Kilos> sjoe at least its getting there
[08:47] <Kilos> im so happy i found kde
[08:47] <Kilos> ek sukkel nie meer nie
[08:48] <anton_may> Nah unity is not so bad
[08:48] <Langjan> Is unity the reason why graphics is not working?
[08:48] <anton_may> No, the wrong drivers are being used by xorg
[08:49] <Langjan> so why does Kilos  bullshit the toppies?
[08:49] <anton_may> LoL, that you will need to take up with him
[08:49] <Langjan> lmga
[08:49] <Kilos> lol
[08:50] <Langjan> hes got this kde unity thing in his head, almost as bad as the bulls supporters
[08:50] <anton_may> bawahahahahaha
[08:50] <Langjan> go the sharks
[08:50] <Kilos> ya
[08:50] <anton_may> BBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[08:51] <Kilos> ask inetpro superfly if i am wrong
[08:51] <Langjan> they good guys, gave the bulls 2 points just cause the felt sorry for them
[08:51] <Kilos> and mazal
[08:52] <Langjan> ok must I run update and / or reboot?
[08:52] <anton_may> Did it finish installing?
[08:52] <Langjan> just about now
[08:52] <Kilos> doesnt unity tell you when it needs rebooting
[08:52] <anton_may> then shutdown -r now
[08:53] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:53] <anton_may> it does
[08:53] <Langjan> sorry still unpacking
[08:53] <Kilos> lol
[08:53] <anton_may> ok once finished installing then just reboot
[08:54] <Kilos> anton_may you should got apt working there too
[08:54] <Kilos> qpt baie lekker Langjan 
[08:54] <Kilos> apt
[08:54] <Langjan> apt?
[08:54] <Kilos> ons kan -get af los
[08:54] <anton_may> yip still forcing myself just to apt
[08:54] <Kilos> anton_may will tell you how
[08:55] <anton_may> it's in the updates
[08:55] <anton_may> no need to make changes
[08:55] <Kilos> ah
[08:55] <Kilos> oh just the progress bar
[08:56] <anton_may> the progress bar and the colour of the last line when dl the updates
[08:56] <Langjan> so just apt-get update instead of sudo apt?
[08:56] <Kilos> apt update
[08:56] <anton_may> sudo apt update
[08:56] <Kilos> sudo apt update
[08:56] <Langjan> must I run that now or just reboot?
[08:56] <anton_may> or sudo apt install 
[08:57] <anton_may> sudo shutdown -r now
[08:57] <anton_may> will reboot
[08:57] <Langjan> ok thks still unppacking
[08:57] <Kilos> skryf neer toppie
[08:57] <anton_may> ok once finished with installing then you can reboot
[08:59] <Langjan> Just: sudo shutdown -r 
[08:59] <Langjan> ?
[09:00] <Kilos> and now
[09:00] <Langjan> oh
[09:00] <Langjan> ok
[09:00] <Kilos> now means onmiddelik
[09:00] <Kilos> hehe
[09:00] <Kilos> good luck
[09:01] <Langjan> with one or two "l" s?
[09:01] <Kilos> lluck
[09:01] <Kilos> onmiddellik ook
[09:02] <Kilos> ai! strydom
[09:03] <Langjan> jy kan nie eens onmiddellik spel nie seuntjie, hoe nog dit doen?
[09:03] <Kilos> ai! dis wat die opdrag doen man
[09:03] <Kilos> nie ekke nie
[09:04] <Langjan> ok rebooting, hold thumbs
[09:04]  * Kilos holds one thumb
[09:04] <Kilos> 2 tumbs dont work
[09:04]  * anton_may holding everything
[09:04] <Kilos> lol
[09:05] <Kilos> if it crashes download kde iso and enjoy
[09:05] <Langjan> eish! no change..
[09:05] <Kilos> uh oh
[09:05] <Kilos> cant you even ope xchat
[09:05] <anton_may> so it just freezes
[09:06] <Langjan> the apps that are on startup come up and then if I click to close or anything else, they go fuzzy and freezer
[09:07] <Langjan> xchat is oening
[09:07] <jan__> im here on xchat 
[09:07] <anton_may> ok kewl
[09:07] <anton_may> can you open a terminal?
[09:08] <jan__> yes
[09:08] <anton_may> ok open the terminal and then edit the following file
[09:08] <anton_may> sudo nano /etc/defaul/grub
[09:08] <Kilos> t
[09:09] <Kilos> default
[09:09] <anton_may> default?
[09:09] <anton_may> let me know ehn it's open
[09:09] <anton_may> when
[09:09] <jan__> spelling error? I see it
[09:09] <Kilos> is there now an /etc/defaul/grub
[09:10] <anton_may> oh ja sorry
[09:10] <jan__> yes
[09:10] <anton_may> :(
[09:10] <Kilos> :D
[09:10] <anton_may> look for
[09:10] <anton_may> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[09:11] <anton_may> see it?
[09:11] <jan__> Look where? no
[09:11] <Kilos> in nano man toppie
[09:11] <Kilos> did you run sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[09:12] <Kilos> need to use down arrow there
[09:12] <jan__> It says gn nano somethin....
[09:12] <anton_may> lol
[09:12] <jan__> then etc fefaul/grub
[09:13] <jan__> d
[09:13] <Kilos> wat drink jy
[09:13] <Kilos> of wat rook jy
[09:13] <jan__>   GNU nano 2.2.6            File: /etc/defaul/grub 
[09:14] <Kilos> ai!
[09:14] <Kilos> sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[09:14] <Kilos> close the other one
[09:14] <Kilos> ctrl +x
[09:15] <jan__> ok what must I edit?
[09:15] <anton_may> YaY - Do you see the line with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[09:15] <jan__> I see the quiet splash
[09:15] <Kilos> arrow down to that line
[09:16] <anton_may> Change the that line so it looks like this - GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="video=vesafb:off quiet splash"
[09:17] <jan__> ok done and now?
[09:17] <anton_may> press ctrl & x
[09:18] <anton_may> ctrl + x
[09:18] <anton_may> will ask to modify the file
[09:18] <anton_may> then press y for yes
[09:18] <anton_may> and then will exit
[09:19] <jan__> Hey magic - suddenly system looks healthier than kde!
[09:19] <Kilos> lol
[09:19] <anton_may> ok now run - sudo update-grub
[09:20] <anton_may> let me know ehn you have updated grub
[09:20] <anton_may> when
[09:20] <anton_may> urg
[09:20] <jan__> done update grub
[09:20] <anton_may> sudo shutdown -r now
[09:22] <anton_may> eish today i'm super lazy, but that is is because I'm wearing a cape
[09:23] <anton_may> and?
[09:23] <jan__> sorry guys, still unchanged
[09:23] <anton_may> interresting
[09:24] <jan__> It does seem to be reacting a bit better
[09:24] <anton_may> meaning
[09:25] <jan__> the menus seem to be working but reacting sluggish, hakkerig
[09:25] <anton_may> ok
[09:25] <jan__> but not freezing any more
[09:26] <anton_may> Mmmm.....i wonder
[09:28]  * Kilos wonders too
[09:28] <jan__> Getting worse again
[09:28] <Kilos> kde is a good cure
[09:28] <anton_may> can you open terminal again?
[09:28] <Kilos> heat probs?
[09:28] <jan__> Almost like running out of memory
[09:29] <anton_may> yip that is what i want you to check
[09:30] <jan__> Temps seem fine, cpu 38, MB 39
[09:30] <jan__> cores 60
[09:30] <anton_may> in terminal type free -m
[09:31] <jan__>       total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[09:31] <jan__> Mem:          4042       1916       2125        207         76       1007
[09:31] <jan__> -/+ buffers/cache:        832       3209
[09:31] <jan__> Swap:         4057          0       4057
[09:32] <anton_may> nope memory is sharp
[09:33] <Kilos> one app hasnt upgraded i think
[09:33] <anton_may> Ok, next step --> Download and install http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[09:33] <Kilos> old unity used to do this to me
[09:34] <jan__> Its here already
[09:34] <anton_may> ubuntu tweak?
[09:34] <jan__> yes'
[09:34] <anton_may> kewl can you open it?
[09:34] <jan__> yes its open
[09:35] <anton_may> go to janitor
[09:36] <jan__> about 350 MB to clean
[09:36] <anton_may> ok clean
[09:38] <jan__> Cool clean
[09:39] <anton_may> and how is it now?
[09:39] <jan__> still reacting like the hiccups
[09:39] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:40] <jan__> For example if I click on Thunderbird which is open it does not react
[09:40] <anton_may> brb
[09:41] <jan__> Top menu like skype and temp monitor seem to be working better
[09:41] <jan__> task bar at left is problem
[09:41] <Kilos> ai! unity
[09:42] <Kilos> if i get to OZ ill download 16.04 in unity favour as well
[09:43] <jan__> but cannot open mail even from top menu
[09:46] <jan__> anton_may,  what does brb mean?
[09:47] <jan__> so Kilos unity works in Oz?
[09:47] <Kilos> no ill have uncapped
[09:47] <Kilos> be right back =brb
[09:48] <jan__> ok thks
[09:50] <anton_may> back
[09:52] <jan__> Hi anton_may  is there a future for my unity?
[09:53] <anton_may> i don't know is it possible to teamviewer to your pc?
[09:53] <jan__> I should think so
[09:53] <jan__> Have done it before and the browser seems to be ok
[09:53] <anton_may> can you pvt message me the details theni can login and have a looksy?
[09:54] <jan__> what do you need ? 
[09:55] <jan__> My Ubuntu login password? 
[09:55] <anton_may> nope hold on
[10:10] <anton_may> so while i'm waiting what else is potting?
[10:13] <anton_may> and his back from outer space
[10:13] <Langjan> anton_may, I have disabled most of my startup aps, now getting black screen, will have to try to get back
[10:14] <anton_may> ok
[10:15] <Langjan> what can I do from recovery mode?
[10:16] <anton_may> are you in recovery mode now?
[10:16] <Langjan> yes
[10:17] <anton_may> whats on the screen?
[10:17] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:17] <Langjan> recovery menu options
[10:18] <Langjan> 9 of them
[10:18] <Langjan> Filesystem state read only
[10:18] <Langjan> sorry filesystem menu
[10:18] <Langjan> state read only
[10:19] <Langjan> then 9 menu options
[10:20] <anton_may> ok with u now
[10:20] <Langjan> thks
[10:21] <anton_may> Ok, when you booted it when straight to recovery mode?
[10:22] <Langjan> no I took it there
[10:22] <Langjan> when I booted it gave a black screen
[10:22] <anton_may> with a login prompt?
[10:22] <Langjan> then rebooted to get to recovery mode
[10:23] <Langjan> no, 
[10:23] <anton_may> have you got an external drive?
[10:23] <Langjan> yes
[10:24] <anton_may> drop to shell from the list there
[10:24] <Langjan> sorry you have me lost there
[10:24] <Langjan> oh ok 
[10:24] <anton_may> enter your password
[10:25] <Langjan> no shell option in list
[10:25] <anton_may> then you will be at prompt
[10:26] <anton_may> sorry what is the options again
[10:26] <Langjan> im in recovery mode menu, option are resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, fsck, grub, network, root and system-summary 
[10:26] <anton_may> select root
[10:27] <Langjan> ok the I get a terminal
[10:27] <anton_may> enter your password
[10:27] <Langjan> command not found...?
[10:28] <anton_may> does it ask to enter your password?
[10:29] <Langjan> no it says root@jan-System-Product-Name:~#
[10:29] <anton_may> ok 
[10:29] <anton_may> type cd /
[10:30] <Langjan> ok
[10:30] <anton_may> type ls
[10:30] <Langjan> after cd in same line? 
[10:30] <anton_may> nope
[10:31] <anton_may> first type cd / and then enter - sorry
[10:31] <Langjan> ok
[10:31] <anton_may> then type ls and then enter
[10:31] <Langjan> ok done 
[10:31] <anton_may> do you see Home
[10:31] <Langjan> there is a home es
[10:31] <Langjan> yes
[10:32] <anton_may> ok somehow Xorg went bonkers 
[10:33] <Langjan> Greek to me but sounds like youre on a track
[10:34] <anton_may> we can reinstall ubuntu desktop, but first lets make a backup of you home directory
[10:34] <Langjan> no prob its already backed up
[10:35] <anton_may> so your home dir is backed up if somethig does go wrong?
[10:35] <Langjan> yes
[10:35] <anton_may> please confirm press [Y/n]
[10:35] <Langjan> its on my lapie im using now and my external drive
[10:35] <anton_may> ok lets do it
[10:36] <Langjan> ok
[10:36] <anton_may> first we need to mount as read write as in recovery it only mounts as read-only
[10:37] <anton_may> type mount -o rw,remount / press enter
[10:37] <Langjan> is hat an o or a 0 zero?
[10:38] <anton_may> o as in Oscar
[10:39] <Langjan> theres a whole lot of feedback here now 
[10:40] <anton_may> ok just type cd and then enter
[10:40] <anton_may> then re-enter the command
[10:41] <Langjan> same result  
[10:42] <anton_may> ok try with sudo - sudo mount -o rw,remount /
[10:43] <Langjan> Same result, ends with  "for many more details, say man 8 mount
[10:45] <anton_may> so type everything between these quotes "sudo mount -o rw,remount /"
[10:46] <anton_may> remember the forward slash
[10:47] <Langjan> just goes back to prompt
[10:47] <anton_may> perfect
[10:47] <Langjan> oh!
[10:47] <anton_may> then it mean the root directory is read write mounted
[10:48] <Langjan> ok
[10:48] <anton_may> now type between the quotes "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop" and then enter. This will probably take a while. Let me know if there are problem after issuing the command
[10:49] <Langjan> ok thks
[10:50] <anton_may> command all good? No issues with dependencies?
[10:51] <Langjan> failed to fetch quite  list
[10:51] <Kilos> ai!
[10:51] <anton_may> can you ping www.google.co.za
[10:52] <Langjan> by ping you mean?
[10:52] <anton_may> type ping www.google.co.za and then enter.
[10:52] <Kilos> see if you have connection
[10:52] <anton_may> It should say reply
[10:52] <Langjan> in the terminal? 
[10:52] <anton_may> or destination unreachable
[10:52] <anton_may> yip
[10:53] <Langjan> command not foound
[10:53] <anton_may> ping
[10:53] <anton_may> between the quote "ping www.google.co.za"
[10:53] <Langjan> unkown host
[10:53] <anton_may> ok
[10:54] <anton_may> between the quotes "ping 8.8.8.8"
[10:54] <Langjan> network is unreachable
[10:55] <anton_may> network cable plugged in or does it connec wirelessly?
[10:55] <Langjan> cable connected
[10:56] <Langjan> updates have been showing unable to downlload package files since a day or two
[10:56] <anton_may> mm ok
[10:58] <anton_may> is it a desktop?
[10:58] <Langjan> same happened on my laptop this morning...
[10:58] <Langjan> yes its a desktop
[10:59] <anton_may> if you look in the back where the cable connects is there any activity?
[11:00] <Langjan> light is on
[11:01] <Langjan> should it flicker? its just on
[11:01] <anton_may> there should be flickering
[11:01] <Langjan> sorry, its also flashing on the side
[11:01] <Langjan> flickering
[11:02] <anton_may> between the quotes "ping 10.0.0.4"
[11:03] <Langjan> network is unreachable
[11:04] <anton_may> between quotes  type "ifconfig" and then enter
[11:05] <Langjan> ok no errors what would you like from feedback? 
[11:06] <anton_may> should give you an ip address of 10.0.0.x
[11:06] <Langjan> Link encap: Local loopback
[11:07] <Langjan> then net address and mask
[11:07] <Langjan> inet address
[11:07] <anton_may> ok so you don't have an ip address
[11:08] <anton_may> ok, you have the ubuntu installation?
[11:09] <Langjan> yes
[11:09] <Langjan> the cd?
[11:09] <anton_may> yip, but do you want unity or switch to kde or something else?
[11:09] <anton_may> comfortable with unity?
[11:10] <Langjan> Is unity as bad as kl says?
[11:10] <Langjan> Im very comfy with unity
[11:10] <anton_may> no not really, it just boils down personal preference.
[11:11] <anton_may> then just boot from the cd and do a fresh installation
[11:11] <Langjan> ok will do many thnks for alll the time and help
[11:11] <anton_may> no probs, i think the problems started from a while back
[11:12] <magespawn> anton_may: why are you stopping now? unrepairable?
[11:13] <anton_may> wanted to reinstall the desktop, but he doesn't have an ip address in recovery mode. He also said that the updates hasn't been happening for the last two days
[11:13] <anton_may> i suspect there is more problems than jsut xorg not working
[11:13] <magespawn> could well be right
[11:14] <magespawn> would the network auto configure in recovery? would it not have to be manually set?
[11:14] <anton_may> dhcp does work in recovery, so it should've gotten an ip
[11:16] <anton_may> but I would rather do a fresh installation. Will be quicker than try to resolve any other issues that might pop up with ubuntu desktop reinstallation
[11:16] <Langjan> So is the concensus fresh install guys?  
[11:16] <magespawn> +1
[11:16] <anton_may> +1
[11:17] <Langjan> OK thks
[11:18] <Langjan> Not a major issue but I will lose a few latest emails, no easy way to get the .thunderbird folder out?
[11:19] <anton_may> it is in you home dir
[11:19] <Langjan> yes
[11:19] <anton_may> is the pc still on?
[11:19] <Langjan> yes
[11:19] <anton_may> plug in you external drive
[11:19] <Langjan> ok just as ec
[11:20] <Langjan> plugged in
[11:21] <anton_may> between quotes type "cd /media" and enter
[11:21] <anton_may> then type ls and enter
[11:23] <anton_may> ?
[11:23] <Langjan> the terminal has gone past ~# and does not seem to be responding
[11:24] <anton_may> ok well not an issue, boot from cd
[11:25] <anton_may> it goes toa  desktop when you boot from the cd
[11:26] <Langjan> phew! CD drive not opening...
[11:26] <anton_may> lol time for a new box jan
[11:27] <Langjan> looks like
[11:27] <magespawn> is this a desktop?
[11:27] <anton_may> yip
[11:27] <magespawn> ah well at lest the parts are relatively cheap
[11:27] <Langjan> can I try boot from live memory stick
[11:28] <anton_may> yes you can do that too
[11:28] <magespawn> what email is it? not something like google?
[11:29] <Langjan> Thunderbird. reboot by powering off?
[11:29] <anton_may> yip then boot from the flash drive
[11:29] <anton_may> brb little boys room
[11:32] <Kilos> lol
[11:34] <Kilos> sjoe
[11:35]  * Kilos giggles at is unity as bad as kl says
[11:37] <Kilos> Langjan how clean is that pc inside
[11:37] <Kilos> maybe a ram reseat can help
[11:38] <Kilos> and a good blowjob
[11:42] <bushtech> and oil the fans and clean them while you're in there
[11:42] <Kilos> hi bushtech 
[11:43] <bushtech> dag kilos, others
[11:44] <anton_may> back
[11:44] <anton_may> yea a cleanup inside will do too
[11:44] <Kilos> something not happy in that pc
[11:44] <Kilos> 2 weeks ago we did a reinstall
[11:45] <Langjan> OK thks will do a bit of maintenance and see. Kilos that was the lappie
[11:45] <Kilos> ok
[11:45] <anton_may> yea i do a fresh installation once a year
[11:45] <Kilos> but also on unity
[11:46] <Kilos> hehe i enjoy teasing about unity
[11:46] <Kilos> ty for helpinh him anton_may 
[11:46] <Langjan> jys soos 'n ou vrou mety 'n natbroek oor unity
[11:47] <Kilos> hahaha
[11:47] <anton_may> yea no probs, like I said I think there is more under lying issues than just Xorg or driver issues with the system
[11:47]  * Kilos smiles at my smoothly running kde
[11:47] <anton_may> lol 
[11:47] <Langjan> thks anton_may  reaaly appreciate the help
[11:47] <anton_may> no probs
[11:48] <Kilos> see Langjan when you logged on i knew you broke something
[11:48] <anton_may> have booted from the flash drive yet?
[11:48] <Kilos> could see by the way you combed your hair this morning
[11:48] <Langjan> Kilos, I put the boot part on my stick in a folder, seems I broke that also
[11:49] <Kilos> oh my
[11:49] <Kilos> holy moly old man
[11:49] <Kilos> what are you smoking
[11:49] <Langjan> can I put it back where it was?  
[11:49] <Langjan> pot
[11:49] <Kilos> what
[11:49] <Kilos> how did you break it
[11:50] <Kilos> look at it in disks
[11:50] <Kilos> see if it still shows as mbr
[11:51] <Kilos> then just delete all other files and use unetbootin to make a new one
[11:51] <Kilos> or try it in another usb port first
[11:51] <Kilos> how could that break
[11:51] <Langjan> ok just a sec
[11:51] <Kilos> dont keep and magnets ear pc stuff
[11:51] <Kilos> any
[11:56] <Kilos> and dont keep sticks near magnets
[11:57] <Langjan> It shows bootable, let me try again
[11:59] <anton_may> When it does boot up you can copy your .thunderbird from the current system to your external drive
[12:01] <Langjan> ok many thks anton_may , have a good day.
[12:05] <anton_may> i would suggest to backup you whole home directory as this is where all the config files for programs, browser settings, etc are stored. So in future when you have to do restore you just restore you home diretory and all the settings are back as is was. Even if you reinstall the programs
[12:09] <Langjan> thks anton_may  I do that at least once a month
[12:10] <Kilos> you can do that with rsync daily weekly monthly or when ever suits you
[12:10] <Kilos> oh that backup tool on unity actually worked well iirc
[12:10] <anton_may> dailey then the amount is only as much as how much were added to the directory
[12:11] <anton_may> wait what....kilos gave a compliment to unity oh.my.gawd!
[12:11] <Kilos> dejadup i think it was called
[12:11] <Kilos> hahahaha
[12:11] <Langjan> good to know thks
[12:11] <Kilos> i played lots in unity
[12:12] <Langjan> and Kilos is waking up
[12:12] <Langjan> lmga
[12:12] <Kilos> waqking up??
[12:12] <Kilos> i woke up and went to kde
[12:12] <anton_may> meh, before i know it i'm in terminal doing work
[12:15] <Kilos> work is inclined to teach one bad habits
[12:15] <anton_may> i know i know
[12:44] <anton_may> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[12:53] <anton_may> Ok peeps have a great easter weekend. Hope it is a great one. Jan if you need help, just pop a mail in the ubuntu list and I will respond.
[12:53] <superfly> cheers anton_may, have a great Easter weekend too!
[12:54] <anton_may> ciao
[12:54] <Kilos> cherers
[12:57] <Langjan> back Kilos, you there? 
[12:57] <Kilos> yessir
[12:57] <Langjan> kan ek weer pla asb?
[12:57] <Kilos> natuurlik
[12:57] <Langjan> thks 
[12:58] <Kilos> moenie vra om te pla nie
[12:58] <Kilos> pla net
[12:58] <Kilos> hehe
[12:58] <Kilos> wat is nou stukkend
[12:58] <Langjan> I have a 1GB stick I want to make bootable and dedicate to that no more mesing with it, sio have formatted with disks, now just load iso via unet?
[12:59] <Kilos> too small
[12:59] <Kilos> iso normally i.2g
[12:59] <Langjan> oh, need more than 1 gig?
[12:59] <Kilos> 2 gig is the bestest
[13:00] <Kilos> ceck the size of the iso
[13:00] <Kilos> 1.2g?
[13:00] <Langjan> roperties say iso is 1 Gb maybe I'm lucky? 
[13:01] <Kilos> try but i dont hink you actully have 1g space on a 1g stick
[13:01] <Kilos> unetbootin should tell you not enough space
[13:02] <Langjan> Properties say 442 kb used, 1Gb free, maybe not formatted properly?
[13:02] <Kilos> run unetootin
[13:02] <Langjan> its open
[13:02] <Kilos> ok
[13:03] <Langjan> iso already there
[13:03] <Kilos> then go for it
[13:03] <Langjan> In "space used" what do I set it to?
[13:04] <Kilos> dont change anything
[13:04] <Kilos> it will decide
[13:04] <Kilos> on a large stick you can save some for other stuff
[13:05] <Langjan> doesnt pick up stick, says try format to fat32
[13:05] <Kilos> isnt the stick formatted
[13:06] <Langjan> wll it said format failed for some reason
[13:06] <Kilos> oh format it then
[13:06] <Kilos> right click format if that option is available
[13:06] <Kilos> otherwise gpated or disks will format it as well
[13:07] <Kilos> whew gparted
[13:09] <Langjan> It's 1,021 Gb
[13:10] <Kilos> ok try put iso now
[13:12] <Langjan> loading
[13:13] <Langjan> Whats best DVD drive to shop for?
[13:13] <Kilos> i never had any luck with a 1g stick
[13:13] <Kilos> they all made in japa china or taiwan
[13:14] <Langjan> its because you dont use unity
[13:14] <Kilos> i have lg and pioneers and both work
[13:14] <Langjan> whats best dvd drive to shop for?
[13:14] <Kilos> i was using unity man to try get kde iso on a 1g sticjk
[13:14] <Langjan> mine was lg
[13:15] <Langjan> lmga
[13:15] <Kilos> you most likely watch too many dvds
[13:15] <Langjan> hardly ever, proably rusted from not being used 
[13:16] <Kilos> ai!
[13:16] <Kilos> try different dvds in it
[13:16] <Kilos> nothing in there rusts i think
[13:16] <Kilos> they just stop working
[13:17] <Kilos> this lappy also needs one
[13:17] <Langjan> out of space, you were right
[13:17] <Kilos> but with unetbootin who cares about dvds
[13:17] <Kilos> ha
[13:17] <Kilos> ha
[13:17] <Kilos> 'ha
[13:17] <Langjan> ok going to practice now, chat again later
[13:17] <Kilos> sien
[13:17] <Kilos> im not as look as dumb i am
[14:21] <magespawn> later all
[16:32] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:08] <Wolfeyes> evening everyone
[17:23] <Kilos> hi Wolfeyes 
[17:32] <Wolfeyes> heya Kilos
[17:42] <Kilos> superfly you working?
[17:42] <superfly> Not at the moment. On my phone. 
[17:42] <Kilos> just checking
[17:42] <Kilos> hehe
[17:42] <superfly> Watching the banana bread in the oven 
[17:42] <Kilos> yum thats lekker kos
[17:43] <superfly> Normally I'd be wrestling children at this time, but the Mrs took them while I was busy making the banana bread 
[17:44] <Kilos> thoughtful of her hey
[17:44] <Kilos> you get a break
[17:44] <Kilos> watching bread bake isnt hard work
[17:45] <superfly> My feet are thankful for the break. 
[17:46] <Kilos> your feet? geeks dont work with thier feet
[17:47] <Kilos> bafana bafana does
[17:52] <superfly> Kilos: I have arthritis
[17:52] <Kilos> oh my
[18:08] <Kilos> arthritus in the feet?
[18:08] <Kilos> and where else
[18:27] <Kilos> inetpro trek die vlieg my been?
[18:30] <superfly> Kilos: just feet/ankles
[18:30] <Kilos> wow serious
[18:30] <Kilos> alkalise your system
[18:31] <Kilos> shame man that sucks
[18:31] <Kilos> ive had in elbows and thumb joints
[18:32] <Kilos> cant imagine the pain in ankles 
[18:32] <Kilos> djoe
[18:32] <Kilos> sjoe as welll
[18:50] <Kilos> night all.sleep tight
[22:11] <magespawn> exit