| === masACC is now known as maswan | ||
| karstensrage | whats involved in getting backport bugs addressed | 00:25 |
|---|---|---|
| lamont | I don't like it when apt-get dist-upgrade says this: | 00:31 |
| lamont | Fetched 7,012 kB in 25s (275 kB/s) | 00:31 |
| lamont | Segmentation fault | 00:31 |
| karstensrage | is that 16.04? | 00:33 |
| GunnarHj | karstensrage: Ping someone in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-backporters | 00:36 |
| karstensrage | anyone? there are only 10? | 00:42 |
| karstensrage | the pending members have been pending for quite some time O.O | 00:43 |
| karstensrage | broder, maybe you might be interested? | 00:45 |
| karstensrage | whats the criteria for backporting new | 00:59 |
| karstensrage | stuff | 00:59 |
| === juliank_ is now known as juliank | ||
| === zequence_ is now known as zequence | ||
| fastercat | Is there any additonal debug output I can turn on for a video driver? | 14:19 |
| fastercat | It is crashing with cryptic messages like NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context | 14:20 |
| fastercat | and a lot of NVRM: Xid (PCI:0000:07:00): 3, C 00000002 SC 00000003 M 00000104 Data 00000000 | 14:20 |
| fastercat | It is:07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 2] (rev a1) | 14:21 |
| Unit193 | zigo: LP 1562358 finally filed, along with LP 1562356. Just FYI. | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1562358 in python-googleapi (Ubuntu) "python-googleapi is incompatible with oauth2client >= 2.x" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1562358 | 17:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1562356 in gcalcli (Ubuntu) "gcalcli incompatible with oauth2client >= 2.x" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1562356 | 17:15 |
| juliank | lamont: If the crash was in xenial, apt 1.2.8 fixes a known segfault. It just needs to be synced. It would still make sense to have a full backtrace, if possible. | 19:19 |
| juliank | Oh wait, no, 1.2.8 fixes an update segfault. | 19:20 |
| juliank | So a full bt would be *really* useful | 19:20 |
| juliank | If it's APT that's crashing, otherwise I don't care :) | 19:22 |
| infinity | Skuggen: usr/include/mysql/mysql/client_plugin.h:103:38: fatal error: mysql/plugin_auth_common.h: No such file or directory | 21:00 |
| infinity | compilation terminated. | 21:00 |
| infinity | Skuggen: MySQL's fault, or mythtv's? | 21:00 |
| infinity | superm1: mythtv seems to hate you. | 21:13 |
| Skuggen | infinity: mysql.h includes mysql/client_plugin.h in 5.7, and didn't in 5.6 | 21:15 |
| Skuggen | It needs include/mysql on the include path to work | 21:15 |
| infinity | Skuggen: Is that not provided by pkg-config or similar (or is mythtv not using it?) | 21:16 |
| Skuggen | The header structure is a bit of a mess. Devs are working on cleaning it up, but wasn't ready for the 5.7 release :| | 21:16 |
| Skuggen | Yeah, I haven't seen that issue outside mythtv so far | 21:16 |
| Skuggen | So it's part that the directory structure is weird and part that mythtv does something a bit differently, I think | 21:16 |
| infinity | Yeah. Looking now. | 21:17 |
| superm1 | I explicitly patched to fix that | 21:18 |
| * superm1 shrugs | 21:18 | |
| infinity | superm1: You may have patched the wrong bit. The g++ command sure doesn't have the include. | 21:18 |
| * infinity grabs the source. | 21:19 | |
| superm1 | I patched the header check and the .pro to add the includes. It did all work correctly in my local test build | 21:23 |
| superm1 | I'm afk atm I'll look when I get to computer | 21:23 |
| lamont | juliank: gdb apt-get; r dist-upgrade.... and it's working :( | 21:30 |
| lamont | oh, right .. let's do this on the correct machine | 21:30 |
| infinity | Hah. | 21:30 |
| lamont | apt-get dist-upgrade ==> segv. apt-get install gdb ==>runs to completion fine. | 21:31 |
| lamont | bug inbound against apt with the trqace | 21:32 |
| infinity | You're lucky the latter didn't fix the former. | 21:32 |
| lamont | I KNOW | 21:32 |
| * lamont was quite concerned actually | 21:32 | |
| infinity | I'd have unpacked a dpkg deb without dpkg or apt's databases being involved, probably. :P | 21:33 |
| lamont | I see that 1.2.8 is there, I'll try that after I file the bug. | 21:33 |
| infinity | s/dpkg deb/gdb deb/ | 21:33 |
| lamont | heh | 21:33 |
| lamont | you know it's a red letter day, when you get to type Yes, do as I say!, twice. | 21:33 |
| infinity | I don't think I've had to type that in years. | 21:34 |
| infinity | I get the prompt all the time, but that's my own stupid fault, and it's saving me from myself. | 21:34 |
| lamont | oh yes, that prompt is the machine going, no seriously, think about this one before you say yes, multiple times. | 21:35 |
| lamont | if you ever determine that you should really type it, it's time to file a bug. | 21:35 |
| infinity | It's triggered by removing an Essential package, IIRC. Not a whole lot of logic behind it. | 21:35 |
| infinity | And yes, absolutely a distro bug if it happens without you explicitly removing something you shouldn't. | 21:35 |
| lamont | yep. removing essential is the whole and sole cause of that | 21:37 |
| * infinity upgrades his IBM PowerStation from 14.04 to 16.04 for the lolz. | 21:39 | |
| * lamont attaches the trace from 1.2.8 | 21:40 | |
| lamont | juliank: over to you sir, lp #1562402 | 21:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1562402 in apt (Ubuntu) "segv in apt 1.2.7 with dist-upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1562402 | 21:40 |
| infinity | Man, this disk (and the SAS controller it's attached to) were wildly overspecced for this machine. | 21:41 |
| juliank | Oh no | 21:41 |
| juliank | Two different backtraces :/ | 21:42 |
| infinity | I do believe this is the only 15k RPM disk in my house. | 21:42 |
| lamont | infinity: is it time for me to start shifting the home infra to xenial? | 21:42 |
| infinity | But I guess this is what happens when you ask IBM to make an "affordable workstation". | 21:42 |
| juliank | lamont: Can you generate a bt with dbgsyms? | 21:42 |
| lamont | maybe | 21:42 |
| infinity | lamont: That's what I'm doing right now. I think we still have one or two upgrade bugs you might want to wait on, though. | 21:42 |
| * lamont hasn't bothered with dbgsyms in ages... process? | 21:43 | |
| infinity | lamont: Definitely have one that fubars upgrades in GUIs. | 21:43 |
| infinity | lamont: I'm seeing now how serverish upgrades go. | 21:43 |
| lamont | infinity: I see | 21:43 |
| * lamont will let infinity embrace the suck on his behalf | 21:43 | |
| infinity | Right now, all I can report is that server upgrades are fast. If you have a disk that can actually keep up with your CPU. | 21:44 |
| infinity | Or, in this case, a disk that might be faster than my CPU. :P | 21:44 |
| juliank | lamont: and/or run it in valgrind | 21:44 |
| juliank | (preferably and) | 21:45 |
| infinity | lamont: dbgsyms == install libc6-dbg and install the matching lib and apt ddebs from http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/a/apt/ | 21:45 |
| lamont | sigh. installed valgrind (and the most recent maas, because of huh), and then ran apt-get dist-upgrade... and it's running | 21:45 |
| infinity | lamont: Yes, you can add ddebs.u.c to sources.list and 'apt-get install apt-dbgsym' too, if apt is working. | 21:46 |
| infinity | Oh. Or valgrind broke you. \o/ | 21:46 |
| juliank | :( | 21:46 |
| lamont | yeah it could have been that the maas ppa install tickled it into happiness, too | 21:46 |
| infinity | Yay for perturbing databases until it works. :( | 21:46 |
| lamont | but valgrind and I are about to have some fun | 21:46 |
| lamont | infinity: no yay | 21:46 |
| * lamont loves hard failurs | 21:46 | |
| infinity | Saving /var/lib/dpkg, /var/cache/apt, and /var/lib/apt might have been nice. | 21:46 |
| infinity | If you have a time machine. | 21:47 |
| infinity | DO YOU HAVE A TIME MACHINE?! | 21:47 |
| lamont | "dammit, I wish I'd created that lvmsnapshot that I didn;t think to do this time" | 21:47 |
| lamont | ah, but I do have a backup of yesterday that includes /var/lib/dpkg | 21:47 |
| infinity | Indeed you would. | 21:47 |
| infinity | If you know what you've installed since, it's pretty safe to restore the old dpkg bits. Well, safe-ish. | 21:48 |
| infinity | And just reinstall overtop again. | 21:48 |
| infinity | After debugging. :P | 21:48 |
| lamont | sigh | 21:48 |
| lamont | backup excludes for /var: lib/dpkg/ | 21:48 |
| infinity | lamont: /var/backups | 21:49 |
| lamont | I'll rewind the maas bits, maybe | 21:49 |
| lamont | oh! | 21:49 |
| juliank | lamont: Do you perhaps have /var/backups/dpkg.status.0{,1.gz,2.gz} | 21:50 |
| infinity | It's not the entirety of /var/lib/dpkg, IIRC, but it's the databases apt cares about. | 21:50 |
| * juliank has that on Debian | 21:50 | |
| juliank | but not sure why | 21:50 |
| lamont | yeah | 21:50 |
| lamont | do I care about more than dpkg.status? | 21:50 |
| infinity | Possibly apt.extended_states.0 too, depending on where the crash was. | 21:50 |
| juliank | That should be it. You can just pass -o Dir::State::Status=/var/backups/dpkg.status.0 to APT I'd think | 21:51 |
| lamont | Segmentation fault | 21:52 |
| lamont | \o/ | 21:52 |
| juliank | Yay! Let's go valgrinding that bastard. | 21:52 |
| * lamont installs dbg syms | 21:53 | |
| lamont | W: Failed to fetch http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-proposed/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found | 21:53 |
| lamont | W: Failed to fetch http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-proposed/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found | 21:53 |
| lamont | infinity: sigh.. what does that ddebs line look like? | 21:53 |
| infinity | lamont: No ubuntu. | 21:54 |
| lamont | ta | 21:54 |
| infinity | Just ddebs.u.c/ $series $comp $comp | 21:54 |
| infinity | We really should put an ubuntu symlink in there to / | 21:54 |
| juliank | infinity: oh, thanks for the 1.2.8 sync. | 21:54 |
| infinity | Maybe I'll do that right now. | 21:54 |
| infinity | juliank: I caught you talking about it in backscroll, changelog looked sane, so you're welcome. | 21:55 |
| lamont | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15514548/ <-- with dbgsyms | 21:55 |
| stgraber | infinity: yes we should! it's been bugging me SO many times | 21:55 |
| infinity | stgraber: Done. | 21:55 |
| * infinity tests. | 21:56 | |
| juliank | I don't think it's mentioned in the changelog, but I made the flaky tests retry, so I hope it passes CI on all architectures now, even the always-failed armhf | 21:56 |
| lamont | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15514567/ <-- juliank | 21:56 |
| lamont | looking forward to 1.2.9 :D | 21:56 |
| stgraber | yay | 21:56 |
| infinity | Looks like that did the trick. | 21:56 |
| infinity | lamont: Works with ubuntu now too. :P | 21:56 |
| * lamont hugs infinity | 21:57 | |
| infinity | Err. | 21:57 |
| juliank | hmm, seems like those dbgsym do not match your installed version :( | 21:57 |
| infinity | Except for apt yelling at me about it. | 21:57 |
| lamont | oh, yeha | 21:57 |
| infinity | Oh, but that's true regardless of the path. | 21:57 |
| infinity | It just needs fixing still. | 21:57 |
| juliank | Anyway, that's fairly weird stuff | 21:58 |
| infinity | Or I need to ship the key in the distro. Derp. | 21:58 |
| Unit193 | ddebs could likely be useful to add commented out in the default sources.list these days. | 21:58 |
| lamont | juliank: that's 1.2.7 syms with 1.2.8 apt. :( | 21:58 |
| * juliank thought so | 21:58 | |
| infinity | So get 1.2.8 syms? | 21:58 |
| juliank | seems the new ones are not available yet | 21:58 |
| infinity | They're available in LP. | 21:59 |
| infinity | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/1.2.8/+build/9403755 | 21:59 |
| lamont | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15514599/ <-- full valgrind | 21:59 |
| lamont | infinity: reinstalled 1.2.7 | 21:59 |
| infinity | That works too. But I suspect he wants both if they're different. | 21:59 |
| lamont | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15514613/ | 21:59 |
| lamont | juliank: ^^ 1.2.7 bt | 22:00 |
| juliank | lamont: reinstall libapt-pkg5.0=1.2.7 | 22:00 |
| infinity | lamont: Also, dude, learn to autoremove. | 22:00 |
| lamont | meh | 22:00 |
| juliank | You only pulled in the apt binaries, not the library | 22:00 |
| lamont | infinity: I do.. this is me not perturbing the db | 22:00 |
| juliank | infinity: Now both are the same... | 22:00 |
| juliank | Oh well, sorry, library is not downgraded yet. | 22:00 |
| lamont | ii libapt-pkg5.0:amd64 1.2.7 amd64 package management runtime library | 22:01 |
| juliank | weird | 22:01 |
| lamont | dpkg -l | grep 1.2.8 yields only zlib1g | 22:01 |
| lamont | infinity: lp #1543683 has me being generous in my keeping of kernels | 22:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1543683 in linux (Ubuntu Xenial) "Fails to detect (second) display" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1543683 | 22:02 |
| juliank | To be fair, I have no idea what's going on. It seems that we are iterating to a broken dependency | 22:03 |
| juliank | (in both cases) | 22:03 |
| lamont | and sometime between now and mondya, I need to boot a kernel so that I can definitively say that the "fix released" there is an outright lie | 22:03 |
| lamont | juliank: there is one small lie in the status file, that I don't think should matter... Package: perl5 Depends: perl, because I haven't rebuilt a binary yet to depend on perl instead of perl5 | 22:04 |
| lamont | mentioned in the interests of full disclosure | 22:04 |
| * lamont tries one other thing | 22:05 | |
| lamont | interesting... if I drop the maas ppas, then all is happy and right in the world again | 22:08 |
| * lamont bisects | 22:08 | |
| * infinity still resents that he needs to do this after do-release-upgrade: | 22:08 | |
| infinity | dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/ {print $2}' | xargs dpkg -P | 22:08 |
| lamont | amusingly, /var/backups is in my backup | 22:08 |
| infinity | lamont: Could the maas PPA have a broken control file somewhere that dpkg somehow missed? | 22:09 |
| lamont | I have been doing rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*; apt-get update each pass | 22:09 |
| juliank | infinity: Would you rather do apt purge ?config-files | 22:09 |
| infinity | juliank: I didn't know that was a thing. | 22:10 |
| lamont | File descriptor 3 (pipe:[5854305]) leaked on vgs invocation. Parent PID 3149: /usr/sbin/grub-probe | 22:10 |
| juliank | infinity: It isn't | 22:10 |
| lamont | stupid grub-probe | 22:10 |
| infinity | juliank: But it's not the shell pipe that I resent, it's that I can't upgrade-with-purge via the release-upgrader. ie: it's our bug. :P | 22:10 |
| juliank | infinity: It's an aptitude thing right now... | 22:10 |
| juliank | But I definitely want patterns in APT soon-ish | 22:10 |
| infinity | lamont: As to the parallel topic, a serverish do-release-upgrade -d seemed to DTRT. Packages all installed, postinsts all succeeded, the only unexpected removal was aptitude (which I almost consider a feature, but I suppose I should look into). | 22:12 |
| lamont | heh | 22:12 |
| infinity | Rebooting now to be sure it actually worked... | 22:12 |
| lamont | yeah, they'll squawk about that | 22:12 |
| infinity | And it boots! | 22:13 |
| infinity | All systemdish and kernel 4.4ish. | 22:13 |
| juliank | lamont: YOu might want to run with Debug::pkgPackageManager=yes and see which package causes that (it should be the last printed in a line starting with SmartUnPack) | 22:14 |
| juliank | then you can see if there's anything odd about that | 22:14 |
| juliank | We need to retry the APT test on armhf | 22:16 |
| lamont | \o/ | 22:16 |
| lamont | dist-upgrade with everything but http://ppa.launchpad.net/maas-maintainers/experimental3/ubuntu enabled, ran fine. uncommented that one, and *splat* | 22:17 |
| infinity | Erm. Reboot worked okay except that my / is read-only now. WTF, systemd. | 22:17 |
| lamont | SmartUnPack maas-region-controller-min:amd64 (replace version 2.0.0~alpha3+bzr4810-0ubuntu1 with Segmentation fault | 22:17 |
| lamont | how appropriate | 22:17 |
| infinity | Replace it with a SEGV indeed. | 22:18 |
| infinity | juliank: Retried. | 22:18 |
| juliank | infinity: thx | 22:18 |
| lamont | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15514818/ | 22:18 |
| juliank | lamont: What's the apt-cache policy output for that? | 22:19 |
| lamont | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15514824/ <-- almost pasted before you asked | 22:19 |
| juliank | lamont: apt-cache showpkg would be good to have too | 22:21 |
| lamont | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15514844/ <-- showpkg juliank | 22:22 |
| infinity | That's show, not showpkg. | 22:22 |
| lamont | -kohlrabi(root) 381 : apt-cache showpkg maas-region-controller-min > zz | 22:22 |
| lamont | might be, but iz showpkg. | 22:22 |
| juliank | infinity: BTW: The failed test tries to detect that progress reporting works (start at 0, pulses somewhere in the middle, and stops at 100). It tests a 800k file download, at speed 1600/i where i is in [1..10] | 22:22 |
| juliank | So it actually loads the 800 KB file at 160 KB/s | 22:23 |
| infinity | lamont: showpkg looks more like http://paste.ubuntu.com/15514856/ | 22:23 |
| lamont | oh haha | 22:24 |
| lamont | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15514869/ <-- actually different and correct this time | 22:25 |
| juliank | But if it crashes after the "replaces ... with" part, it's actually worse than I though | 22:26 |
| juliank | Well, it makes sense, though | 22:27 |
| juliank | maybe it's a regression from bug #1550741 | 22:28 |
| ubottu | bug 1550741 in kmod (Ubuntu) "Upgrade failed - unauthenticated package (module-init-tools)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1550741 | 22:28 |
| juliank | hmm, typo | 22:28 |
| juliank | That is: The problem now appears to be that the cache has an invalid version selected for installation. | 22:30 |
| juliank | Which might be a regression from http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/apt/apt.git/commit/?id=0390edd5452b081f8efcf412f96d535a1d959457 | 22:30 |
| lamont | \o/ | 22:31 |
| lamont | juliank: and reproduced on another machine! | 22:31 |
| lamont | juliank: point me at an ssh key for you? | 22:31 |
| juliank | Second or third one of https://launchpad.net/~juliank/+sshkeys | 22:32 |
| lamont | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15514948/ | 22:35 |
| lamont | | fa1b75a1-152b-4479-a80e-9b8edaea6caa | ubuntu-released/ubuntu-xenial-16.04-beta1-amd64-server-20160223.1-disk1.img | ACTIVE | | | 22:36 |
| juliank | hmm, where do I get that nova tool? | 22:38 |
| lamont | juliank: see also /query | 22:38 |
| lamont | that | 22:38 |
| lamont | s python-novaclient | 22:38 |
| infinity | Oh, you can't be serious. | 22:43 |
| infinity | lamont: Okay, one glaring effin' regression from upstart/mountall->systemd that I can't believe I'm the first to run into. | 22:44 |
| lamont | oh? | 22:44 |
| lamont | do I even want to know? | 22:44 |
| infinity | lamont: It fails to remount / rw if there's no (OTHERWISE COMPLETELY POINTLESS) entry for / in fstab. | 22:44 |
| lamont | lol | 22:44 |
| lamont | how's that readnoly thing going? | 22:44 |
| infinity | Well, fine now that I added an fstab entry. :P | 22:45 |
| infinity | Stupid bug is stupid. | 22:45 |
| infinity | And completely counter to the "empty /etc" goal, so I have no idea WTF. | 22:46 |
| lamont | infinity: you know what's hilarious? "Myspace for dummies", published 2008 | 22:46 |
| karstensrage | infinity, do you pull from unstable or just testing? for xenial? | 22:47 |
| lamont | juliank: amuslingly? apt-get install maas fix0rs everything | 22:47 |
| infinity | karstensrage: Unstable. | 22:47 |
| karstensrage | sweet | 22:47 |
| karstensrage | its up there | 22:47 |
| infinity | karstensrage: Does "it" have a name? | 22:47 |
| lamont | note also that the automatic pulling from unstable stopped for xenial a while ago | 22:48 |
| karstensrage | one sec | 22:48 |
| infinity | lamont: Yeah, he's trying to get something NEW in. | 22:48 |
| infinity | lamont: Which would be easier with a package name. | 22:48 |
| infinity | *hint, hint* | 22:48 |
| lamont | heh | 22:48 |
| lamont | infinity: what, can't you just do a for loop checking for new packages? :p | 22:48 |
| * lamont has lost faith | 22:49 | |
| infinity | lamont: We effectively do just that when autosyncing, but not past DIF. | 22:49 |
| karstensrage | https://packages.debian.org/unstable/libpam-ufpidentity | 22:49 |
| infinity | karstensrage: FWIW, source packages are the real interest, so https://packages.qa.debian.org/libpam-ufpidentity would be the more relevant URL for such requests (happens that binary and source match this time, though). | 22:50 |
| infinity | karstensrage: And synced. | 22:50 |
| karstensrage | thank you so much | 22:51 |
| infinity | karstensrage: And https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-ufpidentity to follow along at home. | 22:52 |
| * lamont wanders off for a bit | 22:52 | |
| infinity | "Bash script for wrapping cron jobs to prevent excess email sendin" ... Because that extra 'g' would have been too much. | 22:58 |
| Unit193 | Hah. :D | 22:59 |
| Unit193 | Thanks for reviewing cronic! | 22:59 |
| infinity | Unit193: "Review" is a strong word for what I do with direct Debian syncs. | 22:59 |
| Unit193 | Still, thanks. | 23:00 |
| infinity | But now all I can think of is some redneck worryin' about too much email sendin' on his dialup. | 23:00 |
| Unit193 | Ahaha. :D | 23:01 |
| * Unit193 is from Ohio, but city parts! | 23:01 | |
| juliank | lamont: infinity: Issue caused by the commit I linked. | 23:03 |
| juliank | So: Yay, it's mvo's fault! | 23:03 |
| infinity | juliank: Man, that mvo guy sure is a jerk. | 23:04 |
| infinity | Oh, wait, no. The other thing. | 23:04 |
| lamont | ohio has city parts? | 23:04 |
| infinity | lamont: Cleveland? | 23:04 |
| lamont | I guess so | 23:05 |
| infinity | lamont: Population of 400k. Doesn't qualify as a "city" to me, but it does to most people. :P | 23:05 |
| lamont | infinity: for you, it's not a city until it's big enough to have an underbelly? | 23:05 |
| Unit193 | Welp, I don't know what I live in then, it certainly isn't a 'city' though if CLE isn't. >_> | 23:05 |
| infinity | On, and Columbus is 800k. | 23:06 |
| infinity | That's approaching a real city. | 23:06 |
| lamont | Unit193: tbf, the post office serving my house is for a town that might be 4500 now, and the next closest town has about a 150k population | 23:07 |
| juliank | maas-region-controller-min:amd64 Depends on maas-common [ amd64 ] < 2.0.0~alpha3+bzr4810-0ubuntu1 -> 2.0.0~alpha4+bzr4843-0ubuntu1~xenial2 > ( net ) (= 2.0.0~alpha4+bzr4837-0ubuntu1~xenial1) can't be satisfied! | 23:08 |
| infinity | lamont: But you no longer get your Internet via Pringles can, so you're moving up in the world. | 23:08 |
| Unit193 | lamont: ...The metro area has 124,475. >_> | 23:08 |
| lamont | infinity: but I hate paying for my T1 | 23:09 |
| lamont | which, tbf, is about 1/7 the bandwidth of the radio that's still on the tower, just not used by me | 23:10 |
| infinity | lamont: I thought you finally got cheap residential cable out there? | 23:10 |
| lamont | hahaha | 23:10 |
| lamont | cable comes to about 2 miles away | 23:10 |
| infinity | Oh. :P | 23:10 |
| infinity | 2 miles is pretty close! | 23:10 |
| lamont | the DSLAM is 17000 feet -- tariff is 15000... and "T1" is a total misnomer for a pair of bonded hdsl lines | 23:10 |
| lamont | and that is why I have an office in town | 23:11 |
| infinity | Oh, it's not actual ISDN/T1 old skool tech? Just DSL sold at T1 speeds? | 23:11 |
| lamont | I could have DSL if the firestation were 1/2 mile closer | 23:11 |
| lamont | not entirely sure... "4-wire T1" | 23:12 |
| lamont | but I'm given to understand that it's hdsl pretending to be a T1... 2-pair to the house, and then magically 1-pair to get to the terminus in the computer room | 23:12 |
| lamont | http://goo.gl/BTcjCE <-- infinity | 23:14 |
| lamont | that's the box in the comp room | 23:14 |
| lamont | the next step down was 128kbps ISDN for about 2/3 the price of the T1 | 23:15 |
| lamont | amusingly, it's not uncommon for me to see 180KB/s from the T1 | 23:15 |
| infinity | That sounds like real old skool analog tdm T1. | 23:15 |
| lamont | yeah - it's more the 2-pair from the ped to the demark that leads me to believe it's playing games | 23:16 |
| infinity | But maybe their magic ... Yeah. | 23:16 |
| juliank | Almost fixed | 23:16 |
| infinity | lamont: It must be weird living in the past. | 23:16 |
| lamont | totally | 23:16 |
| infinity | lamont: Did you have to brush up on WTF Frame Relay is? :P | 23:17 |
| lamont | also, screw you. :p | 23:17 |
| lamont | I don't think they're actually using frame relay, either. | 23:17 |
| infinity | Well, Frame or ATM would seem like the protocols of choice. | 23:18 |
| infinity | Perhaps with a PPPo in front of it if they hate their customers. | 23:18 |
| lamont | the funniest part? they deliver me 3 voice circuits from that adtran, which then go into a telephony card | 23:18 |
| lamont | BECAUSE THE ISP DOESN'T DO VOIP | 23:18 |
| lamont | oh, the actual service for me: their adtran is configured on a 1918 network talking to my router and passing me a /29 (and sometimes, even their tier 2 is most confused how that even works) | 23:19 |
| lamont | so from my perspective, it's just "ip route default via 192.168...." | 23:20 |
| lamont | and, of course, they advertise my /24 from the swamp for me, at no additional charge | 23:20 |
| lamont | anyrate, afk | 23:22 |
| infinity | juliank: Are you going to tag a 1.2.9 with this fix "soonish", or should I just yoink the commit for an ubuntu1? | 23:22 |
| juliank | infinity: I'll do some more testing and upload this tomorrow I think | 23:23 |
| infinity | juliank: WFM. | 23:23 |
| infinity | juliank: I'm in no rush, lamont got unstuck, and I'm guessing it's a bit of a corner case. Just want it in xenial sometime soonish. | 23:23 |
| juliank | https://github.com/julian-klode/apt/commit/71f2ab088f8e077ba8375e87ee9bb595655f954a | 23:26 |
| juliank | That should fix it | 23:26 |
| juliank | I should also come up with a test case, though | 23:28 |
| juliank | infinity: I'm not sure if removing maas-region-controller-min and installing maas-region-controller is the right choice, though, but it's what APT < 1.2.7 did and does not crash | 23:31 |
| juliank | I see, maas-region-controller-min is not up to date enough | 23:32 |
| juliank | (4837 and the rest 4843) | 23:32 |
| juliank | Now I need to build a test case where one package needs to be removed to allow another package to be installed. | 23:33 |
| juliank | Let's see if I can do that | 23:33 |
| lamont | juliank: maas-region-controller-min got renamed to maas-region-api | 23:46 |
| lamont | juliank: ^^ | 23:48 |
| juliank | Yeah, saw that. | 23:48 |
| lamont | so before was maas-region-controller{,-min} and now is maas-region-{api,controller} | 23:48 |
| juliank | It unfortunately works in a minimized example test case | 23:49 |
| lamont | of course it does. :( | 23:49 |
| lamont | SCIENCE! | 23:49 |
| infinity | ● nosferatu | 23:56 |
| infinity | State: running | 23:56 |
| infinity | Jobs: 0 queued | 23:56 |
| infinity | Failed: 0 units | 23:56 |
| infinity | ● leviathan | 23:56 |
| infinity | State: running | 23:56 |
| infinity | Jobs: 1783695312 queued | 23:56 |
| infinity | Failed: 1783695312 units | 23:56 |
| infinity | I WONDER IF THAT MIGHT BE AN ENDIAN BUG. | 23:56 |
| infinity | Ooo, even better on s390x. | 23:57 |
| infinity | ● z13-028 | 23:57 |
| infinity | State: running | 23:57 |
| infinity | Jobs: 3804834690 queued | 23:57 |
| infinity | Failed: 3804834690 units | 23:57 |
| infinity | SO MANY JOBS! | 23:57 |
| infinity | xnox: ^-- Some lolz for you. nosferatu = amd64, leviathan = powerpc, z13-028 = s390x. | 23:58 |
| infinity | systemd, you never cease to amaze. | 23:59 |
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