[05:05] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> morning baizon
[06:11] <baizon> hi lotuspsychje
[08:00] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^ how are you :p
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> greenbug: welcome :p
[08:01] <EriC^^> good thanks, you?
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: great tnx
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> greenbug: whats going on with x mate?
[08:01] <greenbug> hello lotuspsychje, thanks for inviting me!
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> no prob, you do alot of support also
[08:01] <greenbug> This has most of the details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/750316/issues-using-x11vnc-when-xfces-lock-screen-is-active
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> greenbug: hmm sorry i dont play with vnc for security reasons
[08:02] <greenbug> I've never been able to wrap my head around X displays and sessions, I haven't been able to find any articles to learn how they work
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> greenbug: maybe try ssh -X or so?
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> greenbug: the #openssh guys know howto exactly
[08:04] <greenbug> I haven't had any issues with security or ssh forwarding, just with VNC and X displays
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> greenbug: well just be carefull with vnc server, youl get hammered 24/7
[08:05] <greenbug> lotuspsychje: don't worry, its only open on my LAN ;)
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> ok :p
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> i use teamviewer for single use things
[08:06] <greenbug> so you think #openssh would be able to help with X display/vnc issues?
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | greenbug anything usefull here?
[08:06] <ubot5> greenbug anything usefull here?: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:06] <greenbug> !Freenx
[08:06] <ubot5> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[08:07] <greenbug> I'll do some reading, thanks lotuspsychje!
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> greenbug: perhaps not vnc, but im sure they can offer alternative
[08:10] <greenbug> I was really hoping to stick with vnc, since it has a good client for my phone
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> greenbug: maybe some usefull info here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/229989/how-to-setup-x11vnc-to-access-with-graphical-login-screen
[08:15] <greenbug> lotuspsychje: I saw that one, but without understanding how X sessions and displays work, I don't know what's wrong
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> greenbug: not sure either sorry, i dont mess with vnc
[08:41] <EriC^^> ugh
[08:41] <EriC^^> a whiner
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> :p
[08:42] <EriC^^> :D
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> im glad 15.04 is eol and 15.10 almost vanished
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> most black screens ever
[08:43] <EriC^^> lol
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> xenial will do alot of goodies :p
[08:44] <EriC^^> yeah :D
[08:47] <baizon> hehe
[08:47] <baizon> 15.04 was ok, 15.10 a little bit worse
[08:47] <baizon> but 16.04 is awesome :D
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> !isitoutyet
[08:48] <ubot5> No, it's not out yet!
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> :p
[08:49] <baizon> using it for 2 weeks now :P
[08:49] <baizon> only 1 bug that i got... gufw isnt starting
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> with systemd its rocknroll fast
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> 3sec sudo halt -p
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> !info gufw xenial
[08:50] <ubot5> gufw (source: gui-ufw): graphical user interface for ufw. In component universe, is optional. Version 16.04.1-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 777 kB, installed size 3175 kB
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gui-ufw
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> hmm only 1 bug :p
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> baizon: maybe add yours too?
[08:54] <baizon> got it fixed :P
[08:54] <baizon> Turns out I was missing a package called python-gobject; installed it and gufw works flawlessly.
[08:55] <baizon> but should i report it ?
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> !info python-gobject
[08:55] <ubot5> python-gobject (source: pygobject): Python 2.x bindings for GObject - transitional package. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16.2-1build1 (wily), package size 2 kB, installed size 41 kB
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> hmm not sure whats it for
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> baizon: install gufw should install all needed dependecies right
[08:56] <baizon> when i start gufw i get this error
[08:56] <baizon> https://paste.ubuntu.com/15507077/
[08:57] <baizon> i mean before fixing it
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> baizon: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/gufw
[08:59] <baizon> i think it has something to do with switching to python3?
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> yes could be
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> did you install something manually?
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> or ppa
[09:00] <baizon> no no
[09:00] <baizon> from the official repos, no ppas for me
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> weird
[09:01] <baizon> well its working :D
[09:01] <baizon> and if nobody reported it its solved :D
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218506
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> dont mentions either grrr
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> baizon: maybe you should add the bug, and solve it
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> and lets see what the devs will do
[09:19] <baizon> to lazy for that :D
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:24] <baizon> sorry :D
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> i dont have benefit in this dont worry :p
[09:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> hi lordievader
[09:27] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje, how are you?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: find tnx, lazy saturday on irc + coffee
[09:28] <lordievader> Sounds good.
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> konichiwa cfhowlett
[09:57] <EriC^^> :D
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> sayonara
[09:57] <EriC^^> :O
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: ohayo gozaimashita :p
[09:58] <cfhowlett> and all that :)
[09:59] <EriC^^> morning to you too lotuspsychje
[09:59] <EriC^^> :p
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> ok guys, going to shop
[10:03] <cfhowlett> smoke me a kipper
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> re
[11:57] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> whats new?
[12:01] <BluesKaj> not much.... morning coffee here :-)....and you?
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: chill saturday here aswell
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> bit cold to go outside
[12:05] <BluesKaj> I've been trying to capture video from some old vhs tape recordings of family weddings and gatherings, but it's been really difficult, even on W7 since the software for the capture card doesn't have a MS signed certificate> Linux seemed to work at first using ffmpeg, but quit working after try to add audio to the mix.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> trying to add
[12:07] <BluesKaj> it's frustrating
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: you got a converting kit to make it digital?
[12:08] <BluesKaj> yes it's a n old analog to usb Sabrent capture card
[12:15] <BluesKaj> I may have to buy a more recent card in order to capture the audio as well. The video is easily captured tho
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> yeah think so
[12:15] <BluesKaj> audio is such a problem on linux , it's really unfortunate'
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: how about playing the vhs on the computer and record it wiht a screenrecorder or something
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> like kazam
[12:21] <BluesKaj> I have no webcam to play it back directtly to the screen only the capture card connected to a vhs vcr
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> ic
[12:22] <BluesKaj> video camera rather
[12:23] <BluesKaj> these tapesd are strictly analog VHS recordings made in the 80s and early 90s
[12:24] <BluesKaj> no digital video back then'
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> indeed
[12:25] <BluesKaj> it's definitely a challenge, and I'm not finished yet :-)
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:26] <BluesKaj> amazing that the old vcr still works
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> hahaha yeah
[12:28]  * lotuspsychje_ hates hexchat lags grrr
[12:30]  * lotuspsychje_ kicks lotuspsychje into a ping timeout
[12:31] <BluesKaj> 50ms here on konversation, quassel is about the same, but I seldom use quassel. I don't care for the layout
[12:33] <EriC^^> !ping
[12:33] <ubot5> pong!
[12:33] <lotuspsychje_> lol
=== lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje
[12:34] <EriC^^> lol
[12:34] <EriC^^> Ping reply from lotuspsychje: ? second(s)
[12:34] <EriC^^> irc clients these days :P
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:34] <EriC^^> lol
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !ping
[12:38] <ubot5> pong!
[12:39] <EriC^^> !pong
[12:39] <ubot5> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[12:39] <EriC^^> lol
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> so far for quality ubuntu discussions
[12:40] <EriC^^> dcc uses IP right?
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> think so
[12:40] <EriC^^> mine is shared by the isp
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> firewalls and routers dont like dcc sends :p
[12:50] <BluesKaj> unless you have the ports configured on your router the same as the ports you choose on the client
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> hi greenbug
[15:36] <greenbug> Hey lotuspsychje, hows it going?
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> fine tnx
[15:39] <greenbug> That's good.
[15:39] <greenbug> looks like the issue I'm having with xfce and x11vnc is a bug from 2014: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/1287171
[15:39] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1287171 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "light-locker breaks x11vnc as service" [High,Confirmed]
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> aha
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> greenbug: so you got it solved now?
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> or just marked 'im affected'
[15:42] <greenbug> haha I wouldn't say its "solved", affected is a better term
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:03] <greenbug> looks like a work around is to uninstall light-locker and install xscreensaver; that won't break anything, will it?
[16:06] <EriC^^> workaround for what?
[16:06] <greenbug> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/1287171
[16:06] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1287171 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "light-locker breaks x11vnc as service" [High,Confirmed]
[16:07] <greenbug> I can't use x11vnc on 14.04 because it doesn't work with light-locker, a lock screen
[16:09] <EriC^^> oh
[16:09] <EriC^^> shouldn't break anything
[16:10] <EriC^^> xscreensaver is kind of ugly though
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> i like xscreensave with glmatrix :p
[16:10] <EriC^^> it might break your eye balls i guess, haha :p
[16:10] <greenbug> *sigh* just ran into another issue: the grub timeout only works sporadically.
[16:10] <EriC^^> yeah it has some cool stuff
[16:11] <greenbug> 50% of the time I `sudo reboot now` from ssh, I have to walk over to my machine and tap the enter key...
[16:12] <EriC^^> dualbooting?
[16:13] <greenbug> nope, its the only drive in the system, but grub sometimes just sits there waits for me to press enter
[16:19] <EriC^^> maybe it's using the recordfail
[16:20] <EriC^^> add GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT
[16:20] <EriC^^> in /etc/default/grub and update-grub
[19:23] <daftykins> recordfail was the most annoying feature for HTPCs :P
[19:33] <EriC^^> heya daftykins
[19:37] <daftykins> hi there o/ how's you?
[19:38] <EriC^^> good thanks you?
[19:52] <Bashing-om> Gonna go attack the verdure in the back yard with  a landscaping prunner . I will return .
[19:52] <EriC^^> hell yeah
[19:52] <EriC^^> have a good one
[19:52] <EriC^^> :D
[20:58] <Bashing-om> Mission complete... back to the keyboard .
[21:17] <daftykins> EriC^^: yep all well here thanks :D
[21:18] <daftykins> hey Bashing-om \o any luck with the data recovery you mentioned?
[21:24] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Yeah .. I got my data back .. hard drive no longer dependable, as when it spins down, sometimes will not spin back up .. controller ??
[21:25] <daftykins> hmm no idea, i take it it's out of warranty?
[21:27] <Bashing-om> Yeah .. no warrenty .. If it were not for the fact that I have another box I could bring online, I would be doing the SSD thing . Drives are cheap enough not worth the time and hassle to mess with this one any longer. A trust thing . ( That is my data, and it must be protected !)
[21:28] <daftykins> absolutely - i tend to ditch them immediately on faults
[21:32] <Bashing-om> debating woth self .. As I also want a better graphics card .. EVGA GeForce GT 710 and an SSD - Samsung 850 EVO 250GB $84.58 . That would set me pretty for a while .
[21:32] <Bashing-om> with*
[21:32] <daftykins> i just bought a couple of passive model GT 710s for a client
[21:32] <daftykins> well, few ways back - nice little cards, quite capable
[21:33] <daftykins> ways? weeks. oof i'm losing it
[21:33] <Bashing-om> Yeah, I did apreciate the specs .. and looks to be encased .. Good for a filthy environment .
[21:35] <Bashing-om> GIGABYTE GeForce GT 420  has this huge cooling fan that makes it attractive .
[21:39] <daftykins> i have the card with a dead fan from that client i put those replacements in for, i'm having a real pig of a time finding a compatible fan to replace it though
[21:39] <daftykins> most on ebay have a triangular mounting where all 3 screws are equi-distant from one another, but this one is more of a "Y" shape
[21:42] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Good thought, fix/repair do not throw away .
[21:43] <daftykins> this thing is an OEM Pegatron GT530DE so i'm not sure it's worth it, mind
[21:43] <daftykins> i've emailed an ebay seller anyway to see if they can find one that matches for me :D
[21:45] <Bashing-om> Future is a blank slate, never can have too many graphic's cards on hand .
[21:46] <daftykins> definitely nice to have a PCI-Express spare :)
[21:57] <Bashing-om> The fan on this old ATI card is screaming ... in my mind in scrounge in my rust bucket IF  a) I do not buy the new card b) bring that other box online . What are you going to do Billy Boy ?
[21:59] <daftykins> i did read that some sewing machine oil or other similar grade can be applied to sort it out, but the one in my case didn't have an accessible rear under the sticker to lube it up
[21:59] <daftykins> just had the PCB under there
[22:01] <Bashing-om> Uh Huh .. considered that too . Kinda leary of lubricants on electronics .. We do not want short circuits now do we .
[22:04] <daftykins> oh you only want a tiny couple of drops tops - the fan section tends to be sealed behind those stickers, too
[22:06] <Bashing-om> Thanks, will make that my next project . Pull these cards ( In the rust bin is an old box with an Nvidia card I want to look at ).