| ubottu | lotuspsychje called the ops in #ubuntu (Freed-Millionair spam) | 14:06 |
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| ubottu | In #ubuntu, Emmarof said: ubottu, please is the said solution for my problem? | 14:40 |
| ubottu | lotuspsychje called the ops in #ubuntu (fhjdsxghjjfss known spammer) | 16:32 |
| hggdh | already gone. Fire & forget action | 16:34 |
| ubottu | baizon called the ops in #ubuntu () | 17:30 |
| Unit193 | ikonia: 86.122.154.125 has done a couple drive bys now, might want to set a short ban on it too. | 17:42 |
| ikonia | he changes it every time | 17:42 |
| ikonia | didn't see a point on individual IP's | 17:42 |
| Unit193 | Banning Romania might help. >_> | 17:44 |
| ikonia | it's tempting | 17:44 |
| Unit193 | Heh, Kerberos1 was him too. | 17:44 |
| ikonia | yup | 17:44 |
| Unit193 | He'll get bored soon enough. | 17:44 |
| ikonia | yup | 17:45 |
| ikonia | now he'll get "cannot send to channel" | 17:45 |
| Flannel | ikonia: May want to back off on that trigger finger. | 19:42 |
| ikonia | may want people to be honest | 19:43 |
| Flannel | ikonia: And you have proof that he wasn't being honest, opposed to it being a language issue? | 19:43 |
| ikonia | he could answer every other question just fine | 19:43 |
| ikonia | apart from "what did you do" | 19:43 |
| Flannel | ikonia: What about stacy--? | 19:43 |
| ikonia | so stacy has been given documents and clear detailed advice for 2 days - refuses to do it, refuses to read it and just keeps going her (I assume it's her) own way and expecting people to cut and paste commands for her | 19:44 |
| ikonia | I spoke in a lot of detail in private yesterday to not make an issue in public that she had to follow the docs/info - or it was pointless | 19:44 |
| Flannel | ikonia: It may be wise to let some of that spill over into public (even if it's just "you'll need to do X and Y, like we talked about"). Otherwise people think you're just kicking arbitrarily. Plus, it lets other folks know the answer *has* been answered, just not followed. | 19:46 |
| Flannel | just like you just did, actually. | 19:47 |
| ikonia | I'm not really intersted if others think that to be honest | 19:47 |
| ikonia | we are here to help people - not allow people to waste peoples time | 19:47 |
| Flannel | ikonia: Unfortunately, that's not the position you're allowed to have. | 19:47 |
| ikonia | what isn't ? | 19:47 |
| Flannel | ikonia: That ops just remove people arbitrarily. | 19:47 |
| ikonia | I'm not removing people arbitararily | 19:47 |
| ikonia | I've just explained why they where removed | 19:48 |
| Flannel | ikonia: If it *appears* that you are to members of the channel, then "you are" | 19:48 |
| ikonia | no it's not | 19:48 |
| Flannel | ikonia: Yes, it is. | 19:48 |
| ikonia | you're welcome / as is anyone to ask | 19:48 |
| Flannel | ikonia: And people did, in #u. | 19:48 |
| ikonia | right, one person asked, | 19:48 |
| Flannel | ikonia: We should never have gotten to that point. | 19:48 |
| ikonia | you're right - I should have binned her last night | 19:49 |
| Flannel | ikonia: So again, expend more effort to make things more clear. I'm sorry it's more work, but it's necessary work. No one said being an operator was a cake walk or for the lazy. | 19:49 |
| ikonia | make things more clear to whom ? | 19:49 |
| ikonia | (sorry what topic to be clear) | 19:49 |
| ikonia | why I removed them ? | 19:49 |
| Flannel | to the people in the channel. | 19:49 |
| Flannel | Give *public* warnings before removal, etc. | 19:50 |
| ikonia | Flannel: I spoke to Stacy yesterday in private to not create an issue in the public and made it clear ignoring the info would not be allowed to continue | 19:50 |
| ikonia | the other gentlement - of course | 19:50 |
| Flannel | I'm not saying "announce why you remove people" afterwards, but make it clear to people following the channel why you're removing them. Give people dots to connect. | 19:50 |
| Flannel | ikonia: I understand that. I didn't know that (which is why I asked you here, but I have the luxury of asking you here). You've since done a good job of bringing it up in #u re: stacey- and being told. | 19:51 |
| ikonia | I'm happy to respond to people | 19:51 |
| Flannel | ikonia: My point is: people shouldn't have to ask. Because not everyone *will* ask. And that has a chilling effect. | 19:51 |
| ikonia | no, I don't disagree with that | 19:52 |
| Flannel | And that makes it *harder* for people to get help, which is the goal of #u. | 19:52 |
| Flannel | ikonia: but as I already said, you've since made statements about stacey-. Thank you :) | 19:54 |
| ikonia | not at all | 19:54 |
| valorie | re: "banning Romania" - one of our Kubuntu devels is Romanian! | 20:44 |
| valorie | so please don't do that | 20:44 |
| hggdh | valorie: the "banning Romania" was, as far as I can understand, tongue-in-cheek | 23:40 |
| valorie | I assumed so! | 23:42 |
| valorie | just wanted to say, some folks from Romania are awesome | 23:42 |
| valorie | all the ones I've meet face to face, anyway | 23:42 |
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