[00:18] <xubuntu32w> hi folks! i need some assistance in configuring xubuntu.
[00:20] <knome> ask your question
[00:21] <xubuntu32w> i accidentially deleted the thunderbird entry from the applications menu and i cannot bring it back. i tried to add a new starter but it will not accept the icon from usr/share/app-install/icons/
[00:22] <xubuntu32w> is there a way to get the icon back?
[00:22] <knome> how did you delete the entry?
[00:22] <xubuntu32w> by entering the menu editor and clicking delete (did not want to but happened)
[00:24] <knome> when you add a new launcher, and click the icon, select "browse icons" and enter "thunderbird" in the search
[00:24] <xubuntu32w> ok i'll try this. brb
[00:28] <xubuntu32w> when i click the icon a window 'choose an icon' pops up but there's no possibility to search.
[00:28] <knome> on the top right?
[00:28] <xubuntu32w> nope
[00:28] <knome> which xubuntu version are you running?
[00:29] <xubuntu32w> it's a fresh install. 14.04
[00:30] <knome> can you find the icon in the list then?
[00:31] <xubuntu32w> under usr/share/app-install/icons there is actually a thunderbird icon (thunderbird.png). when i select it it will not be displayed in the menu and in the menu editor it's replaced by a placeholder icon.
[00:31] <knome> that's not what i'm asking
[00:32] <xubuntu32w> i cannot find the icon anyhere but in that folder
[00:32] <knome> even in the browse icons dialog?
[00:32] <xubuntu32w> yes
[00:34] <xubuntu32w> btw, the launcher does work.
[00:34] <bluesabre> xubuntu32w: are you using a different icon theme than the xubuntu default?
[00:34] <xubuntu32w> yes that's possible. i will check. brb.
[00:35] <bluesabre> xubuntu32w: in menulibre, you can copy the filename from the bottom of the window, you can open the file in an editor, and just set "Icon=thunderbird" for it to pick up from the theme
[00:35] <knome> bluesabre, shouldn't the icon be always findable in the browse icons dialog?
[00:36] <knome> i mean isn't there always a fallback for that anyway
[00:36] <bluesabre> knome: yes, it should
[00:36] <bluesabre> but since its not...
[00:36] <bluesabre> :D
[00:40] <xubuntu32w> when i select the launcher in menulibe the bottom says: "/home/*****/.local/share/applications/alacarte-made-4.desktop". am i supposed to edit that file?
[00:42] <bluesabre> xubuntu32w: you can open that file in a text editor (mousepad) and find the line that starts with Icon=
[00:44] <xubuntu32w> yes, it works. thank you very much!
[00:45] <xubuntu32w> sorry for my bothering you but i'm quite new to linux.
[00:47] <bluesabre> xubuntu32w: no problem, glad we were able to help
[00:49] <xubuntu32w> thanks again. have a good night/day (wherever you are) and see you next time. ;-)
[00:53] <ARandomScientist> Is it possible to password lock a single file? I have and use VeraCrypt, but in this case I don't need a robust encrypted file container.
[00:57] <mrkramps> ARandomScientist, have a look at GnuPG or ccrypt
[00:58] <ARandomScientist> I will. Thanks.
[01:08] <ARandomScientist> mrkramps | ccrypt was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
[01:08] <mrkramps> :)
[07:17] <greenbug> I'm having issues with x11vnc and XFCE's lock screen, anyone have any experience with X sessions and displays?
[10:34] <nikolam> I have an user account that can not log in , just can do switching and shutdow.restart and not using default xfce/xubuntu menu button
[10:34] <nikolam> other account does it all well, so it is interesting to catch what does such behaviour (non-sudoer)
[10:34] <nikolam> feel free to propose catching event when it fails to logoff
[11:33] <nikolam> Received error while trying to log out
[11:33] <nikolam> Session manager must be in idle state when requesting a shutdown
[11:52] <recon_lap> well, the install of the xubuntu beta 16.04 went well, just 2 issues so far :)
[12:25] <nikolam> was it update from 14.04LTS or fresh install
[12:26] <recon_lap> fresh install
[12:27] <nikolam> update is aldo important to test, since it is LTS. I think using Btrfs could help there, since it has snapshots, so one can get back and do update again
[12:38] <recon_lap> I tend to avoid updates, just reinstall an LTS every 2 years, had a new computer and could not wait for the proper release so installed the beta. would not do an update on my main computer.
[12:39] <recon_lap> also , the web is unstable on my main machine atm, firefox and tunderbird crash all the time
[12:40] <recon_lap> so going to do a full re-install anyway.
[12:41] <recon_lap> had to switch to using opera because for some reason it does not crash
[12:41] <mrkramps> firefox crashing is not unusual
[12:42] <recon_lap> crashing now and then ok, but nearly every session with firefox ends with a crash for me.
[12:42] <mrkramps> recon_lap, potentially an addon?
[12:43] <recon_lap> probably, but thunderbird mail crashes the same way
[12:44] <mrkramps> that's less usual
[12:44] <recon_lap> so probably some html loaded module
[12:45] <mrkramps> you could try using a new profile
[12:45] <recon_lap> I'll have a new LTS installed in about 5 weeks, think I'll live with it till then.
[12:46] <recon_lap> opera does not crash and works for most things I want without any crashes
[12:46] <mrkramps> yeah ok, was just mentioning this because reinstalling the whole system generally does not solve issues with specific applications
[12:47] <recon_lap> mrkramps: I'm guessing it's some media codex thats installed. but if it comes back a new profile will not be a help anyway.
[12:47] <mrkramps> true
[12:48] <recon_lap> if it comes back I might compile a debug version of FF and try back trace it
[12:49] <mrkramps> a good idea
[12:49] <mrkramps> or maybe try the ESR version then
[12:49] <mrkramps> or Pale Moon :)
[12:49] <mrkramps> recon_lap, btw. do you use html view for mails in thunderbird?
[12:50] <recon_lap> mrkramps: probably, never really mess with the default e-mail settings, it's email :)
[12:51] <mrkramps> ok, might be a rendering issue then … i never experienced issues with thunderbird, but i am using plain text view only
[13:01] <Ravi> hi
[13:01] <Ravi> I have two OS in my PC
[13:01] <Ravi> Windows XP and xubuntu 14.04.01 LTS
[13:02] <Ravi> While booting sometimes it goes to grub rescue mode
[13:03] <Ravi> some times i choose Xubunut from the OS option and throws error "gave up waiting for root device"
[13:04] <Ravi> Now I have Xubunt 14.04 live usb stick
[13:04] <Ravi> can you help me...?
[13:08] <Ravi> in my live session, my internal hdd partition are not showing up
[13:09] <Ravi> blikd command shows 1 to 9 partitions
[13:09] <Ravi> but in file manager it is not listed
[13:12] <Ravi> how to get grub?
[13:13] <Ravi> i used the command sudo grub-update
[13:13] <Ravi> it is showing grub not found
[13:13] <Ravi> can anyone help?
[13:13] <recon_lap> Ravi: those seem totaly unrelated questions.
[13:14] <Ravi> is it unrelated to xubunut?
[13:15] <recon_lap> no, one is about accessing hdd's, the other is about repairing your boot loader
[13:16] <recon_lap> Ravi: I take it fixing the boot loader is the main issue
[13:16] <Ravi> ok
[13:17] <nikolam> recon_lap, you should have updated installs because of security updates that come to Ubuntu during LTS release life time. That is what actually people pay for in support contracts for some Linux distros..
[13:18] <recon_lap> Ravi: first, was the boot loader working before? and if so , do you have any idea what might have broken it?
[13:18] <recon_lap> nikolam: not sure what you are driving at there.
[13:19] <Ravi> I just restarted my PC to boot with Windows XP
[13:19] <nikolam> "<recon_lap> I tend to avoid updates, just reinstall an LTS every 2 years,"
[13:19] <nikolam> one should_ update
[13:19] <recon_lap> Ravi: and now you cant boot xubuntu?
[13:19] <Ravi> after booting with XP, it was very very slow
[13:20] <Ravi> so I shut down it forcely
[13:20] <Ravi> after that I am not able to boot both OS
[13:20] <recon_lap> nikolam: I should have said I avoid upgrading from one LTS to the next due to unreliable upgrades
[13:20] <recon_lap> nikolam: of course I iinstall updates :)
[13:21] <nikolam> recon_lap, that is understandable. That is why testing upgrade should make them more reliable :)
[13:21] <nikolam> if update form one LTS to another isn't smooth, it's a bug.
[13:23] <recon_lap> Ravi: thats odd, normally grub only gets corrupted when you install windows after ubuntu.
[13:23] <Ravi> my bad luck.. :-(
[13:25] <Ravi> how do i rescue my boot loader?
[13:25] <recon_lap> Ravi: not really, that means there is lots of guides on how to repair it
[13:25] <Ravi> I checked, it says to boot with live CD, and then update grub
[13:26] <recon_lap> Ravi: -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:26] <Ravi> if I use the command grub update, it says grub not found
[13:27] <recon_lap> nikolam: on a side note, I like having a clean install every 2 years, resets all the questionable changes I make over time :)
[13:28] <nikolam> recon_lap, well, that is understandable. But also many businesses would rely on update, to avoid additional costs or problems in setting up servers
[13:28] <Ravi> ok i will check and let you know
[13:28] <nikolam> Someone would say that they could have actually less problems with fresh install, too..
[13:29] <nikolam> But just updating is tempting.
[13:29] <recon_lap> nikolam: well, I would not be screwing with a business like I do with my personal computer
[13:30] <nikolam> well yes, that's why we use personal computers to test installing and rtesting and thank you on that, recon_lap :P
[13:30] <flocculant> all the talk of lts to lts upgrading at the moment is moot - the upgrade via update-manager is broken - as detailed in both our and the main ubuntu release notes
[13:30] <recon_lap> flocculant: so no change from 2006 when I started using ubuntu :)
[13:31] <flocculant> recon_lap: well - if in 2006 it hung halfway through then no, but testing 15.10 to 16.04 is fine - huge changes between 14.04 and 16.04
[13:35] <recon_lap> well, better get to installing stuff onto this new computer :)
[13:35] <flocculant> :)
[13:35] <recon_lap> must say, the new install boots blindly fast on new rig !!
[13:38] <flocculant> I know when I tested on wednesday on hardware to ssd I didn't see all of the slideshow
[13:39] <recon_lap> about 15sec from power button to desktop
[13:40] <flocculant> :)
[14:00] <GeekDude> My desktop is being a bit too overenthusiastic about sharing its printers. I've disabled printer sharing everywhere I can find, and still can't get it to stop advertising the single printer it knows that isn't even hooked up.
[14:07] <recon_lap> GeekDude: dont know, I assume you told it not to share printers in settings->printers->server->settings
[14:24] <GeekDude> recon_lap: yeah
[14:25] <GeekDude> It's not a big deal, since I'm going to be wiping this machine in a few days anyways. I'm just confused
[14:26] <recon_lap> GeekDude: maybe samba or something else is sharing the printer as well. dont really know as it's not something I've had to deal with.
[14:27] <GeekDude> It could be samba, as I didn't try messing with it too much. I suppose I could try removing it's $printer share
[14:31] <nikolam> update form lts to lts is a must, because that's whole point of being able to update.
[14:31] <nikolam> got to go :P
[14:31] <GeekDude> recon_lap: didn't seem to help. I removed the share and commented out all the printer related configuration in smb.conf
[14:31] <GeekDude> I wonder what would happen if I uninstalled cups
[14:52] <recon_lap3> lol, getting reminded of all the little tweaks I had to do, first annoying one is the none functional screen brightness control!!
[15:26] <greenbug> Does anyone have any experience with X sessions/displays? I'm trying to fix an issue with x11vnc and xfce's lock screen.
[17:58] <Orioa> hmm
[19:54] <max12345> hello, I just installed redshift, is there something I can do to xfce to have it change the color of the window frames depnding on daytime?
[22:27] <recon_lap3> max12345: thats what redshift does. did you start it up?
[23:07] <marko94> Hi all, how to get always latest kernel and updates for xubuntu ?
[23:08] <mrkramps> marko94, run updates regularly
[23:09] <marko94> ok, thanks.. Right now I installed Xubuntu , great distro :)
[23:09] <mrkramps> glad to hear :)
[23:12] <marko94> any good tips ,tweaks etc ? :D
[23:14] <mrkramps> marko94, check out http://www.xfce.org for docs/wiki about your desktop environment
[23:15] <marko94> great :)
[23:15] <mrkramps> as well as https://wiki.ubuntu.com to get into the basics
[23:16] <knome> mrkramps, hm?
[23:16] <knome> mrkramps, how does the ubuntu wiki help with xubuntu basics?
[23:16] <mrkramps> knome, did i say something wrong again :\
[23:17] <knome> marko94, the documentation is shipped with each release, or you can read it at http://docs.xubuntu.org/
[23:17] <mrkramps> ah sry, i was actually not thinking of xubuntu basics, but the linux basics in general
[23:18] <knome> the ubuntu wiki doesn't try to do that either
[23:18] <marko94> I know about linux basics :P
[23:18] <marko94> before I was on manjaro xfce :)
[23:21] <mrkramps> well … have fun then :}
[23:22] <marko94> Thanks :) btw how it is Xubuntu ?
[23:25] <mrkramps> marko94, why this name?
[23:26] <marko94> my nick ?
[23:26] <mrkramps> maybe i just read your question wrong "how it is Xubuntu?"
[23:28] <marko94> oh maybe.. it is late and ..never mind.. I mean how Xubuntu is ?xD
[23:28] <mrkramps> it works :)
[23:29] <marko94> hehe
[23:29] <mrkramps> served me well for about 10 years now
[23:29] <marko94> oh great :) only linux or dualboot with windows ?
[23:30] <mrkramps> linux only … but i guess we're getting offtopic now as this channel is for support only
[23:30] <marko94> sorry :)
[23:32] <marko94> Xubuntu Xenial has lts right ?
[23:32] <mrkramps> will have, but yeah
[23:32] <marko94> ok
[23:32] <mrkramps> beofre i say something wrong i would have to check for how many years
[23:32] <knome> 3 years
[23:33] <marko94> End Of Life	2021-04 by distroWatch
[23:33] <marko94> awesome
[23:33] <knome> it's wrong
[23:34] <knome> xubuntu LTS releases are supported for 3 years only
[23:34] <knome> the ubuntu core is supported for 5 years though
[23:35] <marko94> core - developer version ?
[23:35] <knome> no, the common ubuntu packages in xubuntu
[23:36] <marko94> ok, thx guys. Good nights :)
[23:37] <mrkramps> good night