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pavlushkao/ all08:33
magespawnhello all09:11
Kilosafternoon all10:30
pavlushkaMorning Kilos!!!11:18
pavlushkaKilos, you were busy for something, shopping? with a plastic card ^^?11:23
Kilosnono11:25
pavlushkaAre you okay?11:26
Kilosdid chores then started compressor and blew laptop and pcs clean11:26
pavlushkacareful, it might blew the logs.11:27
Kilossttod laptop on its side to wash screen and it looks like moisture came in behind11:27
Kiloswhole patch that allows more light in11:28
Kilossigh11:28
pavlushkamy laptop lid is already broken, fixed once, then it broke again, now I am using external monitor.11:30
Kiloseish11:31
pavlushkamy laptop is not a laptop anymore, its a lesktop, external monitor, external mouse, external keyboard, external HD, external sound box, external usb hub......11:33
Kiloslol11:33
pavlushkanow I am thinking of an external processor, what do you say?11:34
Kilosdont try fix what isnt broken11:35
pavlushkaya, right11:35
* pavlushka laughs11:35
pavlushkaSo, send the laptop to your son.11:39
Kilosno11:39
Kilosit works fine for me11:40
pavlushkaokay, good!11:42
bushtechKilos: go to chemist and ask for Alcohol prep swabs. very good for cleaning screens/keyboards etc and no liquid involved12:45
bushtechcomes in a box of 200 swabs12:45
bushtechand how about getting langjan to install clamtk antivirus12:46
Kilosty bushtech 12:49
bushtechnp12:49
magespawngood afternoon12:51
Kiloshim magespawn 12:51
bushtechhi magespawn12:51
inetprogood evening14:01
inetprobushtech_: to stop what virus?14:01
inetproI like the idea about the swabs14:04
* inetpro wondering how much they cost14:04
Kiloshi inetpro 14:05
Kilosmy poor screen14:06
Kilosai!14:06
Kilosweird you cant see it on a screenshot14:07
magespawnwhat is wrong Kilos ?14:10
Kiloshttp://pasteboard.co/2zZJLt50.png14:10
Kilosmaybe i can get in behind and clean it14:10
Kilossee the white water marks on the right14:10
magespawnnope14:12
Kilosyou see where i said weird14:12
magespawnyes14:13
Kilosto the right of that is bright white14:13
Kilosand all the way up14:13
magespawnprobably the lcd/led in the screen itself failing14:14
Kilosmust have been from the window cleaner14:14
Kiloswas fine before that14:15
magespawndid the liquid get inside the screen at the bottom14:15
magespawn?14:15
Kilosi had it standing on its side14:15
Kilosbottom where the water messed up14:15
Kilostop end fine14:16
magespawnokay i think i might be missing part of the story here14:16
magespawnwater messed up?14:16
Kilosi stood lappy on its side and sprayed window cleaner on it14:16
Kilosthen wiped it all clean and dry14:17
magespawnah right, then it looks like the window cleaner has got into the lcd inside the screen14:17
Kiloswhen powering up the side that was at the bottom has water marks where it seems to have added more light14:17
Kiloscan it be repaired14:18
magespawni do not know of a way to repair the screen, besides replacing it14:18
Kilosnono it works still so ill use it like that14:18
Kilossigh such a stupid thing to do14:19
Kilosbefore i would wipe with a slightly damp cloth14:19
inetproai!14:19
magespawnthat is the way to go Kilos 14:20
Kiloswas too energetic, i did tv and desktop screens first14:20
magespawnso the screen shot captures the info going to the screen not actually what you see on the screen14:20
Kilosthey spotless and work14:20
magespawnand the desktop one is the cheep one to replace14:21
Kilosdont you see the watermark14:21
Kiloslemme try again14:21
Kiloshttp://pasteboard.co/2A0zaMOs.png14:22
Kilosya man you can see the water mark14:23
Kilosall the whiteish stuff thats not same as where we post is the mess14:24
Kiloslike through squirms nick on the right14:25
KilosMaaz coffee on14:32
* Maaz puts the kettle on14:32
KilosMaaz strong14:32
MaazKilos My coffee is always strong. If it is too strong for you then add more milk14:32
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!14:36
KilosMaaz ty14:36
MaazYou are welcome Kilos14:36
inetproKilos: I think you're dreaming14:43
inetprowatermark nightmares14:43
Kilosabout14:43
Kilosno man14:43
Kilosi can see them14:43
inetproin your dreams14:43
Kiloscant you see it on the screenshot14:43
Kilosyes man14:44
inetproKilos: do you have desktop effects enabled?14:45
Kilosdont you see brighter area by thew blazehen and tumbleweed14:45
Kilosno14:45
inetprohmm...14:45
inetprowhy, do they not work?14:45
Kilosi have turned them off since i got a black screen with kde install 14:46
Kilosnot this one the one on desktop14:46
inetprowas that not just a screen that got dimmed?14:46
Kilosno14:47
inetprolike on my lappy, have to press Fn+F9 to brighten the screen14:47
Kilosthats where water seeped in after washing i think14:47
Kilosit only showes on the right14:48
inetproKilos: I mean to get the black screen to brighten up 14:48
Kilosno the only was was ctrl+alt+F1214:49
Kilosask fly he also had that and weed told him what to do14:49
inetprowith desktop effects enabled and under accessibility 'Invert' enabled you can press Ctrl+Meta+I to invert your colors14:50
Kilosalt+shift+F1214:50
inetprothen maybe you can see your watermarks more clearly14:50
Kilosits only on 1 third of the screen14:50
Kiloswhats Meta14:51
Kilosthe win key?14:51
inetproyep14:52
Kilosai! i think mine is control key14:52
inetproI see nothing wrong in your screenshots even after zooming in14:53
Kilosai!14:53
* Kilos passes glasses over14:53
inetpro03/27 16:20:44 <magespawn> so the screen shot captures the info going to the screen not actually what you see on the screen14:53
inetprothink magespawn is right there ^^14:53
Kiloshmm...14:58
inetproMaaz: hmm...14:59
Maazhmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking14:59
Kiloshttp://pasteboard.co/2A36Rf33.png15:01
Kilosif you cant see that you are blinder than i am15:02
Kilostook a snap with cell15:02
inetprowhere do we look this time oom Kilos?15:03
Kilosdont you see that link15:04
Kilosdont you see water mark thats brighter on the right15:05
Kilosstop with the oom15:05
inetproI see what looks like another screenshot, not like a photo15:05
Kilosit was a sreenshot of the open pic on the cell memory card15:05
inetproI see what looks like a screenshot of your dolphin file manager15:07
Kilosai! i give up15:07
inetprowith lots of white space15:07
Kilosoh15:07
Kilosyou see two folders at the top15:08
inetprono15:08
inetprotwo files15:08
Kilosmaybe i forgot to open the images folder15:08
Kilosai!15:08
inetprotwo files in the images folder15:08
Kilosnow its brain is broken15:09
Kilos Loading meta information failed.15:09
Kiloshehe15:09
Kilosi give up15:09
* inetpro don't know Kilos for giving up this easily15:10
Kilosyeah well you talk me old with all the oom oom15:10
Kilosill try again15:11
inetproaggenee man 15:14
Kilosdom foon willie saam speel nie15:15
inetproit's not so important oom Kilos15:15
inetprooops... I mean Kilos15:15
Kiloshahaha15:15
* inetpro fingers doing the oom thing15:15
Kilosja15:16
Kiloshehe15:16
inetprosorry oo... oops, Kilos15:17
Kiloshahahaha jy stout15:20
* inetpro ?15:21
inetpronever!15:21
Kiloshahaha15:21
Kiloshttp://pasteboard.co/2A4AToUA.jpg15:24
Kilossee the whiter spotches right of our chat?15:25
Kilossplotches inetpro 15:33
Kiloshi Cryterion 15:35
CryterionHi Kilos, and everyone else15:35
inetproKilos: ja ne, daai is baie duidelik nou15:40
Kilossjo15:40
Kilose15:40
Kilosmission accomplished15:40
Kilosi though was going mad15:41
Kilosthought15:41
inetproyou were almost there15:42
Kiloslol15:42
inetprobut that was not a very clevr move to mess up a good screen like that15:45
inetprohope it fixes itself through vaporisation15:45
Kilosi hope so15:45
Kilostempted to leave it in the sun for a while15:45
inetproor should that be evaporation?15:45
Kilosevaporisation15:46
Kiloseven that looks wrong15:46
KilosMaaz spell evaporisation15:46
MaazKilos: Suggestions: vaporisation15:46
Kilosdid you ask maaz first15:47
Kiloshehe15:47
inetproEvaporation refers to a specific type of vaporization which occurs at temperatures below the boiling point of a liquid15:47
inetprosurely the screen emits energy while on?15:49
Kilosno warmth15:49
Kiloslight normally makes heat15:49
Kilosi can cancel my trip to debs and buy a gaming laptop15:50
Kilosbut thats not an option15:50
Kilosshe will come here and kill me15:50
bushtech_inetpro: lanjan's thunderbird problem15:50
Kilosyes he should check emails for virii i think15:51
inetprobushtech_: surely that is not caused by a virus15:51
Kiloshe has 6g of emails15:51
inetpronow there ^^ is the more likely cause15:51
Kilosthe .thunderbird folder was corrupt15:52
inetpro6GB of emails? Really!?15:52
Kilosyeah crazy hey15:52
Kiloslimpopo bowls stuff15:52
bushtech_don't think i saw the conversation. Was suggesting a possible fix15:52
Kilosits fixed bushtech_ got him to delete .t and get the one from his laptop15:53
bushtech_ah ok. great15:53
Kilosbut clamtk might be wise with that volume of emails and all from win pcs15:54
inetproKilos: no15:56
Kilosnot even to check mails before forwarding to other win users?15:56
inetprounless he redistributes emails to others there's a very limited risk15:57
inetprohaving a mailbox with that size is really crazy15:58
Kilosbowls people are15:59
Kilosrolling big balls at a small ball for fun15:59
bushtech_inetpro: http://www.amazon.com/Kendall-Webcol-Premium-Alcohol-Sterile/dp/B001BKG8N616:00
bushtech_that's for 20 boxes and you only need one box16:00
inetproDis-chem Medic Alcohol Cleansing Pad 30pcs R18.9516:05
inetprothat the same thing?16:05
inetproKilos: Strategy for supporting large message folders https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2013-January/002560.html16:09
inetproKent James, "we just admit that local mbox folders are limited in size to 4GB, make sure that any usage of mbox folders does not allow >4GB operations"16:10
bushtech_inetpro: same thing. dischem wipes looks a bit bigger16:11
inetprosuperfly: wb16:13
KilosMaaz tell langjan https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2013-January/002560.html16:13
MaazKilos: Okay, I'll tell Langjan on freenode16:13
Kiloswb superfly 16:14
Kilosinetpro funny thing is16:14
superflyinetpro: thanks. when did I disappear?16:14
Kiloshe said lappy .thunderbird was exactly the same16:14
Kilos[15:43] <-- superfly (quasselcor@ubuntu/member/superfly) has left this server (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)16:15
superflyKilos: thanks. looks like a database lock-up16:15
superflypostgres  3991  3547  0 Mar15 ?        00:01:50 postgres: quassel quassel ::1(39130) idle in transaction (aborted)                                                          16:15
superflypostgres  3997  3547  0 Mar15 ?        00:03:17 postgres: quassel quassel ::1(39134) idle in transaction (aborted)16:15
Kilosso something maybe got corrupted when he was copying it over16:15
inetpro03/27 15:43:58 <-- superfly (quasselcor@ubuntu/member/superfly) has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)16:15
Private_Userhi all, anybody have tips on how to respond to a client after you have sent them a proposal and then now responded to you saying they would like to hire you and want to chat to discuss details?16:18
Private_UserI have had it twice but after I reply no contact from them and then the one client declined16:19
Private_Userso I am not sure if its my reply thats causing them to decline or they just found a cheaper alternative16:19
Private_Useroh an afternoon everyone or should I say evening :)16:23
Private_User*and16:23
inetprooh hi Private_User16:26
Private_Userhi inetpro 16:26
Private_Userhi Kilos 16:27
Kiloshi Private_User 16:27
KilosPrivate_User are you not asking for too much16:32
Kilosfone and ask them16:32
inetproKilos: What effects does heat have on an LCD screen? http://superuser.com/questions/746805/what-effects-does-heat-have-on-an-lcd-screen16:33
Kilosty inetpro 16:33
Private_Usernope I am just wondering if its my reply cause when I reply to their message, I am thanking them for reading my propasal and profile and will be glad to discuss the details further thats about everything I would say oh and maybe send any info they ask for16:34
Kilosill try air from compressor16:34
Private_Userwell cannot really say nope cause not sure how much is too much16:34
inetproKilos: or https://hardforum.com/threads/water-in-lcd-display-am-i-screwed.1219676/16:35
inetproput the laptop in a dry warm place (NOT HOT or HUMID) for several days16:35
inetprojust keep blowing your normal fan on it during the night16:36
inetprolast guy says, "Taking apart is the only answer"16:38
magespawninetpro: i hve never had much luck with liquid damaged screens16:39
magespawns/hve/have16:39
Kilosill see if i ca split it16:39
Kilosbut it is still useable so scared to totally wreck it16:40
inetproanother one: https://techwalla.com/content/water-out-computer-lcd-screen16:40
Kilosstrangely enough the white marks seem to be going down16:40
inetproplenty others16:41
Kilosmaybe i can let it sleep on that side16:41
magespawnthe lcd part of the screen is very thin, there is usually various layers16:41
magespawnmaybe they have only got into the one layer16:41
Kilosill have to get data and investigate splitting it magespawn 16:41
Kilosif its a major job ill just use it like this16:42
Kilosjust annoying that all16:42
inetproamazing how these screens have developed over the years16:43
Kilosone learns by making mistakes16:43
magespawnmaybe use some silica gel/rice to help dry it put16:44
Kiloslemme first find how to split it16:46
Kilosi dont even see screw holes16:46
magespawnis this a laptop/16:49
magespawn?16:49
magespawnthe lenovo that we where taking about earlier this month?16:51
Kilosyes T410.i16:52
Kilosvery lekker machine16:52
magespawnbrb16:52
superflyPrivate_User: it's hard to say 16:54
magespawnKilos: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t410_t410i_hmm_en_63y0535_06.pdf16:58
Kilosty magespawn 16:58
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magespawnanother just in case the first is not the right one http://www.levnapc.cz/ProductsFiles/lenovo-T410-manual-en.pdf16:59
Kilosty17:00
Private_Useryou are right superfly but was just wondering if that response could make the client change their minds cause their reponse to my propoasal sounded very promising17:07
Private_Usertime to eat, bbl17:08
magespawnit always make me a bit nervous to quote via email17:13
inetproand so it happened that India kicked the Aussies outta the T20 worldcup?17:46
Kiloswow17:46
Kilosdid they win17:46
Kiloswatched the first whhile then got busy17:48
inetproyep, was a very interesting one by the looks of it17:48
Kilosaus were getting many wickets17:48
inetproIndia 161/4 (19.1/20 ov)17:49
Kilosthe game between pakistan and west indies as well17:49
inetproguy commenting on cricinfo, "Australia's complete lack of quality spinners has finally come home to roost in this game. They should have had this utterly in the bag, but this dreadful bowling at the death has cost them."17:50
Kiloswow17:50
Kiloslosing shane warne was bad news from then17:51
Kiloshe was magic17:51
Kiloss/from them/for them17:52
Kilosserios stuff on mnet about wifi and cells damaging peeps17:52
Kilosearly crash for me18:13
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. ty for the help18:14
Kilosinetpro be good18:14
KilosMaaz watch them18:14
Maazoh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!18:14
inetproKilos: why?18:14
Kilosbecause i can18:14
Kiloshehe18:14
Kilossee i do learn18:14
inetprook, you're excused18:14
Kilosty sir18:14
inetprogood night :-)18:15
Kilossleep tight18:15
Kilosand try get  kids to use walk and talks18:15
Kilosno cell near head18:15
inetprouh18:15
Kilosmajor increase in brain tumours since cell phones came out18:16
Kilosand men don carry cell in pants pockets if you wanna have kids18:16
Kilosnight18:16
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