[08:33] <pavlushka> o/ all
[09:11] <magespawn> hello all
[10:30] <Kilos> afternoon all
[11:18] <pavlushka> Morning Kilos!!!
[11:23] <pavlushka> Kilos, you were busy for something, shopping? with a plastic card ^^?
[11:25] <Kilos> nono
[11:26] <pavlushka> Are you okay?
[11:26] <Kilos> did chores then started compressor and blew laptop and pcs clean
[11:27] <pavlushka> careful, it might blew the logs.
[11:27] <Kilos> sttod laptop on its side to wash screen and it looks like moisture came in behind
[11:28] <Kilos> whole patch that allows more light in
[11:28] <Kilos> sigh
[11:30] <pavlushka> my laptop lid is already broken, fixed once, then it broke again, now I am using external monitor.
[11:31] <Kilos> eish
[11:33] <pavlushka> my laptop is not a laptop anymore, its a lesktop, external monitor, external mouse, external keyboard, external HD, external sound box, external usb hub......
[11:33] <Kilos> lol
[11:34] <pavlushka> now I am thinking of an external processor, what do you say?
[11:35] <Kilos> dont try fix what isnt broken
[11:35] <pavlushka> ya, right
[11:35]  * pavlushka laughs
[11:39] <pavlushka> So, send the laptop to your son.
[11:39] <Kilos> no
[11:40] <Kilos> it works fine for me
[11:42] <pavlushka> okay, good!
[12:45] <bushtech> Kilos: go to chemist and ask for Alcohol prep swabs. very good for cleaning screens/keyboards etc and no liquid involved
[12:45] <bushtech> comes in a box of 200 swabs
[12:46] <bushtech> and how about getting langjan to install clamtk antivirus
[12:49] <Kilos> ty bushtech 
[12:49] <bushtech> np
[12:51] <magespawn> good afternoon
[12:51] <Kilos> him magespawn 
[12:51] <bushtech> hi magespawn
[14:01] <inetpro> good evening
[14:01] <inetpro> bushtech_: to stop what virus?
[14:04] <inetpro> I like the idea about the swabs
[14:04]  * inetpro wondering how much they cost
[14:05] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[14:06] <Kilos> my poor screen
[14:06] <Kilos> ai!
[14:07] <Kilos> weird you cant see it on a screenshot
[14:10] <magespawn> what is wrong Kilos ?
[14:10] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co/2zZJLt50.png
[14:10] <Kilos> maybe i can get in behind and clean it
[14:10] <Kilos> see the white water marks on the right
[14:12] <magespawn> nope
[14:12] <Kilos> you see where i said weird
[14:13] <magespawn> yes
[14:13] <Kilos> to the right of that is bright white
[14:13] <Kilos> and all the way up
[14:14] <magespawn> probably the lcd/led in the screen itself failing
[14:14] <Kilos> must have been from the window cleaner
[14:15] <Kilos> was fine before that
[14:15] <magespawn> did the liquid get inside the screen at the bottom
[14:15] <magespawn> ?
[14:15] <Kilos> i had it standing on its side
[14:15] <Kilos> bottom where the water messed up
[14:16] <Kilos> top end fine
[14:16] <magespawn> okay i think i might be missing part of the story here
[14:16] <magespawn> water messed up?
[14:16] <Kilos> i stood lappy on its side and sprayed window cleaner on it
[14:17] <Kilos> then wiped it all clean and dry
[14:17] <magespawn> ah right, then it looks like the window cleaner has got into the lcd inside the screen
[14:17] <Kilos> when powering up the side that was at the bottom has water marks where it seems to have added more light
[14:18] <Kilos> can it be repaired
[14:18] <magespawn> i do not know of a way to repair the screen, besides replacing it
[14:18] <Kilos> nono it works still so ill use it like that
[14:19] <Kilos> sigh such a stupid thing to do
[14:19] <Kilos> before i would wipe with a slightly damp cloth
[14:19] <inetpro> ai!
[14:20] <magespawn> that is the way to go Kilos 
[14:20] <Kilos> was too energetic, i did tv and desktop screens first
[14:20] <magespawn> so the screen shot captures the info going to the screen not actually what you see on the screen
[14:20] <Kilos> they spotless and work
[14:21] <magespawn> and the desktop one is the cheep one to replace
[14:21] <Kilos> dont you see the watermark
[14:21] <Kilos> lemme try again
[14:22] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co/2A0zaMOs.png
[14:23] <Kilos> ya man you can see the water mark
[14:24] <Kilos> all the whiteish stuff thats not same as where we post is the mess
[14:25] <Kilos> like through squirms nick on the right
[14:32] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[14:32]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[14:32] <Kilos> Maaz strong
[14:32] <Maaz> Kilos My coffee is always strong. If it is too strong for you then add more milk
[14:36] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[14:36] <Kilos> Maaz ty
[14:36] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[14:43] <inetpro> Kilos: I think you're dreaming
[14:43] <inetpro> watermark nightmares
[14:43] <Kilos> about
[14:43] <Kilos> no man
[14:43] <Kilos> i can see them
[14:43] <inetpro> in your dreams
[14:43] <Kilos> cant you see it on the screenshot
[14:44] <Kilos> yes man
[14:45] <inetpro> Kilos: do you have desktop effects enabled?
[14:45] <Kilos> dont you see brighter area by thew blazehen and tumbleweed
[14:45] <Kilos> no
[14:45] <inetpro> hmm...
[14:45] <inetpro> why, do they not work?
[14:46] <Kilos> i have turned them off since i got a black screen with kde install 
[14:46] <Kilos> not this one the one on desktop
[14:46] <inetpro> was that not just a screen that got dimmed?
[14:47] <Kilos> no
[14:47] <inetpro> like on my lappy, have to press Fn+F9 to brighten the screen
[14:47] <Kilos> thats where water seeped in after washing i think
[14:48] <Kilos> it only showes on the right
[14:48] <inetpro> Kilos: I mean to get the black screen to brighten up 
[14:49] <Kilos> no the only was was ctrl+alt+F12
[14:49] <Kilos> ask fly he also had that and weed told him what to do
[14:50] <inetpro> with desktop effects enabled and under accessibility 'Invert' enabled you can press Ctrl+Meta+I to invert your colors
[14:50] <Kilos> alt+shift+F12
[14:50] <inetpro> then maybe you can see your watermarks more clearly
[14:50] <Kilos> its only on 1 third of the screen
[14:51] <Kilos> whats Meta
[14:51] <Kilos> the win key?
[14:52] <inetpro> yep
[14:52] <Kilos> ai! i think mine is control key
[14:53] <inetpro> I see nothing wrong in your screenshots even after zooming in
[14:53] <Kilos> ai!
[14:53]  * Kilos passes glasses over
[14:53] <inetpro> 03/27 16:20:44 <magespawn> so the screen shot captures the info going to the screen not actually what you see on the screen
[14:53] <inetpro> think magespawn is right there ^^
[14:58] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:59] <inetpro> Maaz: hmm...
[14:59] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[15:01] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co/2A36Rf33.png
[15:02] <Kilos> if you cant see that you are blinder than i am
[15:02] <Kilos> took a snap with cell
[15:03] <inetpro> where do we look this time oom Kilos?
[15:04] <Kilos> dont you see that link
[15:05] <Kilos> dont you see water mark thats brighter on the right
[15:05] <Kilos> stop with the oom
[15:05] <inetpro> I see what looks like another screenshot, not like a photo
[15:05] <Kilos> it was a sreenshot of the open pic on the cell memory card
[15:07] <inetpro> I see what looks like a screenshot of your dolphin file manager
[15:07] <Kilos> ai! i give up
[15:07] <inetpro> with lots of white space
[15:07] <Kilos> oh
[15:08] <Kilos> you see two folders at the top
[15:08] <inetpro> no
[15:08] <inetpro> two files
[15:08] <Kilos> maybe i forgot to open the images folder
[15:08] <Kilos> ai!
[15:08] <inetpro> two files in the images folder
[15:09] <Kilos> now its brain is broken
[15:09] <Kilos>  Loading meta information failed.
[15:09] <Kilos> hehe
[15:09] <Kilos> i give up
[15:10]  * inetpro don't know Kilos for giving up this easily
[15:10] <Kilos> yeah well you talk me old with all the oom oom
[15:11] <Kilos> ill try again
[15:14] <inetpro> aggenee man 
[15:15] <Kilos> dom foon willie saam speel nie
[15:15] <inetpro> it's not so important oom Kilos
[15:15] <inetpro> oops... I mean Kilos
[15:15] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:15]  * inetpro fingers doing the oom thing
[15:16] <Kilos> ja
[15:16] <Kilos> hehe
[15:17] <inetpro> sorry oo... oops, Kilos
[15:20] <Kilos> hahahaha jy stout
[15:21]  * inetpro ?
[15:21] <inetpro> never!
[15:21] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:24] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co/2A4AToUA.jpg
[15:25] <Kilos> see the whiter spotches right of our chat?
[15:33] <Kilos> splotches inetpro 
[15:35] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[15:35] <Cryterion> Hi Kilos, and everyone else
[15:40] <inetpro> Kilos: ja ne, daai is baie duidelik nou
[15:40] <Kilos> sjo
[15:40] <Kilos> e
[15:40] <Kilos> mission accomplished
[15:41] <Kilos> i though was going mad
[15:41] <Kilos> thought
[15:42] <inetpro> you were almost there
[15:42] <Kilos> lol
[15:45] <inetpro> but that was not a very clevr move to mess up a good screen like that
[15:45] <inetpro> hope it fixes itself through vaporisation
[15:45] <Kilos> i hope so
[15:45] <Kilos> tempted to leave it in the sun for a while
[15:45] <inetpro> or should that be evaporation?
[15:46] <Kilos> evaporisation
[15:46] <Kilos> even that looks wrong
[15:46] <Kilos> Maaz spell evaporisation
[15:46] <Maaz> Kilos: Suggestions: vaporisation
[15:47] <Kilos> did you ask maaz first
[15:47] <Kilos> hehe
[15:47] <inetpro> Evaporation refers to a specific type of vaporization which occurs at temperatures below the boiling point of a liquid
[15:49] <inetpro> surely the screen emits energy while on?
[15:49] <Kilos> no warmth
[15:49] <Kilos> light normally makes heat
[15:50] <Kilos> i can cancel my trip to debs and buy a gaming laptop
[15:50] <Kilos> but thats not an option
[15:50] <Kilos> she will come here and kill me
[15:50] <bushtech_> inetpro: lanjan's thunderbird problem
[15:51] <Kilos> yes he should check emails for virii i think
[15:51] <inetpro> bushtech_: surely that is not caused by a virus
[15:51] <Kilos> he has 6g of emails
[15:51] <inetpro> now there ^^ is the more likely cause
[15:52] <Kilos> the .thunderbird folder was corrupt
[15:52] <inetpro> 6GB of emails? Really!?
[15:52] <Kilos> yeah crazy hey
[15:52] <Kilos> limpopo bowls stuff
[15:52] <bushtech_> don't think i saw the conversation. Was suggesting a possible fix
[15:53] <Kilos> its fixed bushtech_ got him to delete .t and get the one from his laptop
[15:53] <bushtech_> ah ok. great
[15:54] <Kilos> but clamtk might be wise with that volume of emails and all from win pcs
[15:56] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[15:56] <Kilos> not even to check mails before forwarding to other win users?
[15:57] <inetpro> unless he redistributes emails to others there's a very limited risk
[15:58] <inetpro> having a mailbox with that size is really crazy
[15:59] <Kilos> bowls people are
[15:59] <Kilos> rolling big balls at a small ball for fun
[16:00] <bushtech_> inetpro: http://www.amazon.com/Kendall-Webcol-Premium-Alcohol-Sterile/dp/B001BKG8N6
[16:00] <bushtech_> that's for 20 boxes and you only need one box
[16:05] <inetpro> Dis-chem Medic Alcohol Cleansing Pad 30pcs R18.95
[16:05] <inetpro> that the same thing?
[16:09] <inetpro> Kilos: Strategy for supporting large message folders https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2013-January/002560.html
[16:10] <inetpro> Kent James, "we just admit that local mbox folders are limited in size to 4GB, make sure that any usage of mbox folders does not allow >4GB operations"
[16:11] <bushtech_> inetpro: same thing. dischem wipes looks a bit bigger
[16:13] <inetpro> superfly: wb
[16:13] <Kilos> Maaz tell langjan https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2013-January/002560.html
[16:13] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[16:14] <Kilos> wb superfly 
[16:14] <Kilos> inetpro funny thing is
[16:14] <superfly> inetpro: thanks. when did I disappear?
[16:14] <Kilos> he said lappy .thunderbird was exactly the same
[16:15] <Kilos> [15:43] <-- superfly (quasselcor@ubuntu/member/superfly) has left this server (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
[16:15] <superfly> Kilos: thanks. looks like a database lock-up
[16:15] <superfly> postgres  3991  3547  0 Mar15 ?        00:01:50 postgres: quassel quassel ::1(39130) idle in transaction (aborted)                                                          
[16:15] <superfly> postgres  3997  3547  0 Mar15 ?        00:03:17 postgres: quassel quassel ::1(39134) idle in transaction (aborted)
[16:15] <Kilos> so something maybe got corrupted when he was copying it over
[16:15] <inetpro> 03/27 15:43:58 <-- superfly (quasselcor@ubuntu/member/superfly) has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
[16:18] <Private_User> hi all, anybody have tips on how to respond to a client after you have sent them a proposal and then now responded to you saying they would like to hire you and want to chat to discuss details?
[16:19] <Private_User> I have had it twice but after I reply no contact from them and then the one client declined
[16:19] <Private_User> so I am not sure if its my reply thats causing them to decline or they just found a cheaper alternative
[16:23] <Private_User> oh an afternoon everyone or should I say evening :)
[16:23] <Private_User> *and
[16:26] <inetpro> oh hi Private_User
[16:26] <Private_User> hi inetpro 
[16:27] <Private_User> hi Kilos 
[16:27] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[16:32] <Kilos> Private_User are you not asking for too much
[16:32] <Kilos> fone and ask them
[16:33] <inetpro> Kilos: What effects does heat have on an LCD screen? http://superuser.com/questions/746805/what-effects-does-heat-have-on-an-lcd-screen
[16:33] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[16:34] <Private_User> nope I am just wondering if its my reply cause when I reply to their message, I am thanking them for reading my propasal and profile and will be glad to discuss the details further thats about everything I would say oh and maybe send any info they ask for
[16:34] <Kilos> ill try air from compressor
[16:34] <Private_User> well cannot really say nope cause not sure how much is too much
[16:35] <inetpro> Kilos: or https://hardforum.com/threads/water-in-lcd-display-am-i-screwed.1219676/
[16:35] <inetpro> put the laptop in a dry warm place (NOT HOT or HUMID) for several days
[16:36] <inetpro> just keep blowing your normal fan on it during the night
[16:38] <inetpro> last guy says, "Taking apart is the only answer"
[16:39] <magespawn> inetpro: i hve never had much luck with liquid damaged screens
[16:39] <magespawn> s/hve/have
[16:39] <Kilos> ill see if i ca split it
[16:40] <Kilos> but it is still useable so scared to totally wreck it
[16:40] <inetpro> another one: https://techwalla.com/content/water-out-computer-lcd-screen
[16:40] <Kilos> strangely enough the white marks seem to be going down
[16:41] <inetpro> plenty others
[16:41] <Kilos> maybe i can let it sleep on that side
[16:41] <magespawn> the lcd part of the screen is very thin, there is usually various layers
[16:41] <magespawn> maybe they have only got into the one layer
[16:41] <Kilos> ill have to get data and investigate splitting it magespawn 
[16:42] <Kilos> if its a major job ill just use it like this
[16:42] <Kilos> just annoying that all
[16:43] <inetpro> amazing how these screens have developed over the years
[16:43] <Kilos> one learns by making mistakes
[16:44] <magespawn> maybe use some silica gel/rice to help dry it put
[16:46] <Kilos> lemme first find how to split it
[16:46] <Kilos> i dont even see screw holes
[16:49] <magespawn> is this a laptop/
[16:49] <magespawn> ?
[16:51] <magespawn> the lenovo that we where taking about earlier this month?
[16:52] <Kilos> yes T410.i
[16:52] <Kilos> very lekker machine
[16:52] <magespawn> brb
[16:54] <superfly> Private_User: it's hard to say 
[16:58] <magespawn> Kilos: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t410_t410i_hmm_en_63y0535_06.pdf
[16:58] <Kilos> ty magespawn 
[16:59] <magespawn> another just in case the first is not the right one http://www.levnapc.cz/ProductsFiles/lenovo-T410-manual-en.pdf
[17:00] <Kilos> ty
[17:07] <Private_User> you are right superfly but was just wondering if that response could make the client change their minds cause their reponse to my propoasal sounded very promising
[17:08] <Private_User> time to eat, bbl
[17:13] <magespawn> it always make me a bit nervous to quote via email
[17:46] <inetpro> and so it happened that India kicked the Aussies outta the T20 worldcup?
[17:46] <Kilos> wow
[17:46] <Kilos> did they win
[17:48] <Kilos> watched the first whhile then got busy
[17:48] <inetpro> yep, was a very interesting one by the looks of it
[17:48] <Kilos> aus were getting many wickets
[17:49] <inetpro> India 161/4 (19.1/20 ov)
[17:49] <Kilos> the game between pakistan and west indies as well
[17:50] <inetpro> guy commenting on cricinfo, "Australia's complete lack of quality spinners has finally come home to roost in this game. They should have had this utterly in the bag, but this dreadful bowling at the death has cost them."
[17:50] <Kilos> wow
[17:51] <Kilos> losing shane warne was bad news from then
[17:51] <Kilos> he was magic
[17:52] <Kilos> s/from them/for them
[17:52] <Kilos> serios stuff on mnet about wifi and cells damaging peeps
[18:13] <Kilos> early crash for me
[18:14] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. ty for the help
[18:14] <Kilos> inetpro be good
[18:14] <Kilos> Maaz watch them
[18:14] <Maaz> oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[18:14] <inetpro> Kilos: why?
[18:14] <Kilos> because i can
[18:14] <Kilos> hehe
[18:14] <Kilos> see i do learn
[18:14] <inetpro> ok, you're excused
[18:14] <Kilos> ty sir
[18:15] <inetpro> good night :-)
[18:15] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:15] <Kilos> and try get  kids to use walk and talks
[18:15] <Kilos> no cell near head
[18:15] <inetpro> uh
[18:16] <Kilos> major increase in brain tumours since cell phones came out
[18:16] <Kilos> and men don carry cell in pants pockets if you wanna have kids
[18:16] <Kilos> night