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[09:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:55] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Hi there lordievader
[09:55] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Good morning to you.
[09:55] <lordievader> Hey sick_rimmit, how are you doing?
[09:56] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: /me looks at clock: almost 6am...
[09:56] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Yes, really good thanks..
[09:56] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Morning Mr Honeycutt, time for a little breakfast then ?
[09:57] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: How about you lordievader, have you been enjoying easter ?
[09:57] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: Mr Honeycutt?
[09:57] <lordievader> Doing good here, have been playing a bit with Ceph these last few days.
[09:58] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Yes the Mr H just rolls of the tongue, don't you think
[09:58] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: I'd rather have coffee
[09:58] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: /me wonders what Ceph is
[09:58] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: I usually don't eat breakfast
[09:59] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Oh you should, first drink = Water, then some Cereals to get your metabolism started
[09:59] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Then put the Filter coffee on and you'll be good to GO!
[10:01] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: I know I know lol
[10:01] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: he he
[10:01] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: I got a new to me chair yesterday 
[10:01] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: What you up to today ?
[10:01] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: very nice 
[10:01] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: /me moves to the Cafe
[10:01] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Have you seen Ovidiu around lately /
[10:02] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Oh yes me too
[10:03] <lordievader> sick_rimmit: Ceph is a cluster storage system. Quite fancy if you ask me :)
[10:05] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Ah, there are so many new Container, Cloud, Cluster stuff coming out over the last 2 years. It makes my head spin 😊
[10:08] <lordievader> Appearantly this has been in development for quite some years, but since it is more targeted toward enterprise, us simple people havent heard of it ;)
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[16:31] <genii> Looks like the keys for staging-misc and staging-plasma were strengthened but apt is still complaining for ppa-landing and staging-kdeapplications
[16:35] <mamarley> I think they are currently in the process of mass-updating the keys.
[16:36] <genii> Cool.
[16:38] <BluesKaj> yeah, still receiving the key error on landing here
[17:12] <melodie> hi
[17:12] <melodie> I would point to a bug report I published, related to Calligra, the word componenent and the stage component which I use in an Openbox environment in Xenial.
[17:12] <melodie> here are my bug reports: 
[17:13] <melodie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/+bug/1562877
[17:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1562877 in calligra (Ubuntu) "(Xenial, Openbox) Calligra texts fail to display the ^ right on the letters in French" [Undecided,New]
[17:13] <melodie> and upstream as well:
[17:13] <melodie> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360859
[17:13] <ubottu> KDE bug 360859 in general "^ caracter is written before the letter "e" instead of ê" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[17:13] <melodie> I still have to check if I get the same in a Trusty edition I have on my laptop
[17:14] <melodie> just I wanted to point to it, if someone here has "triage-fu" powers?
[18:23] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Thanks melodie, I have triage powers, and will take a look
[18:24] <sgclark> sounds like translations did not get done? clivejo did you run translations for calligra? https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide
[18:25] <sgclark> seems like we have many issues with translations and booms and oddities, something..
[18:26] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Well, it's good if we keep getting Bug reports like this one come in, we can keep track of em 😃
[18:27] <sgclark> well yes of course, but we are accumilating massive amount related to translations, something seems very wrong.
[18:28] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: I know nothing about how that works, but perhaps you're onto something, maybe we are missing a step
[18:29] <sgclark> sadly neither do I
[18:29] <melodie> telegram thank you!
[18:29] <melodie> I just changed the title, and added a piece of information based on what the person at KDE told me (Qt related)
[18:30] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: I'll ask in Kubuntu, see if someone will test it also, just to confirm its behaviour
[18:31] <melodie> telegram I use Qt apps in Openbox
[18:31] <melodie> I have GTK apps as well, Openbox is supposed to be desktop agnostic
[18:31] <melodie> in fact it is
[18:34] <sgclark> well as I said, we have a number of language related bugs piling up. I expect they are all somehow related. None of on currently are familiar with that area so Rick is sending the message out to the community, hopefully we can get this sorted
[18:34] <melodie> telegram the devs in charge might want to follow the conversation here too: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360859
[18:34] <ubottu> KDE bug 360859 in general "^ caracter is written before the letter "e" instead of ê" [Normal,Resolved: upstream]
[18:34] <melodie> especially the comment #13
[18:35] <melodie> sgclark the guy (or gal?) at KDE seems to have given a possible lead
[18:36] <melodie> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360859#c13
[18:36] <ubottu> KDE bug 360859 in general "^ caracter is written before the letter "e" instead of ê" [Normal,Resolved: upstream]
[18:36] <melodie> “I believe the distribution can help out if you tell them this. They somehow need to update the keyboard layout for qt applcations so the ^ key behaves as a dead character”
[18:36] <melodie> I added the info to the report done on launchpad
[18:36] <melodie> about Qt and Virtualbox
[18:37] <melodie> is help needed about translations? I notice many chains of characters not translated to French, in Stage and some other Calligra suite apps?
[18:38] <melodie> I might take one hour or two adding a few chains for them apps
[18:39] <melodie> I've done a nice presentation related to the gnu/linux distributions history and spreading all around the world, using Stage. I found it nice and easy to use, very agreable
[18:39] <sgclark> I am only a mere packager, I have no clue how one would change keyboards or anything like that. I will however search hi and low for someone that can help
[18:39] <melodie> I presented it in a room where 6 people were attending, right on friday evening, in Toulouse
[18:40] <melodie> sgclark thanks!
[18:40] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: melodie Help is always wanted, needed, and welcome 😃
[18:40] <sgclark> that calligra person was rather rude though, geez
[18:41] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Allow me to invite you to our next party 😃
[18:41] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: kubuntu.org/news
[18:41] <melodie> telegram can you point me to the right direction so I can find the translations page? Or do I need to seek for it myself? 
[18:41] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: !info translations
[18:41] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: /me hopes
[18:41] <melodie> telegram why do you start all your answers with "<Sick_Rimmit>" ?
[18:41] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: ah maybe try that again in IRC
[18:42] <telegram> <Sick_Rimmit>: Sorry let me jump directly to IRC, that is via our Telegram bridge
[18:42] <melodie> -_-
[18:42] <melodie> strange way of using irc
[18:42] <melodie> telegram is sick_rimmit ?
[18:42] <sick_rimmit> I spend lots of time, mobile, and moving between machines
[18:43] <melodie> oh!
[18:43] <sick_rimmit> As do a bunch of us
[18:43] <sick_rimmit> It all stems from Akademy, last year
[18:43] <melodie> that must be a passion! :p
[18:43] <sick_rimmit> So ovidiu-florin set us up with Telegram to IRC bridges,
[18:43] <melodie> I'm not familiar with those terms
[18:44] <melodie> stems for Akademy?
[18:44] <sick_rimmit> It has been brilliant for me, as now I can stay hooked up to the community form my Ubuntu phone
[18:44] <melodie> from
[18:44] <melodie> what is:
[18:44] <sick_rimmit> yes
[18:44] <melodie> stems for Akademy?
[18:44] <sick_rimmit> It all began at Akademy
[18:44] <sick_rimmit> When IRC was being beastly
[18:45] <melodie> Khan Akademy?
[18:45] <sick_rimmit> some of us started using Telegram, it stuck, so we linked Telegram and IRC together
[18:45] <melodie> let me google a bit
[18:45] <sick_rimmit> No Akademy is the annual KDE developer sprint type thing
[18:45] <sick_rimmit> anyways, you mentioned an offer of help
[18:46] <sick_rimmit> SOooo.. I was reaching out to grab your hand :-D
[18:46] <melodie> ok https://telegram.org/faq#q-what-is-telegram-what-do-i-do-here
[18:46] <melodie> \|||/
[18:46] <melodie> 5 fingers x 2 
[18:46] <melodie> :D
[18:46] <melodie> two hands! \o/
[18:47] <melodie> KDE developer sprint…
[18:47] <melodie> aha
[18:48] <sick_rimmit> We're on the look out for Testers, Bug Triage, Support, Documentors, Packagers, "Crazy Happy Party People, without a clue" <- that's me 
[18:48] <melodie> I would have liked Kontact to stay as it was back when I did a Bento Openbox Remix with Precise : you could import "Contacts" (.csv) into it, and have all the columns ready to be reconfigured, and from there, export to all formats possible for any app under Linux!
[18:49] <melodie> sick_rimmit I could exchange help, with some parts of my project where I miss the skills?
[18:49]  * sick_rimmit Strokes goaty beard..
[18:49] <melodie> I'm a good tester and translator (English to French); but I don't know packaging and that bores me to start learning (but Bento Openbox needs packages)
[18:49] <sick_rimmit> Hmmm interesting
[18:49] <melodie> this is Bento Openbox : http://bentovillage.me (in 2 languages, easy to swich)
[18:50] <melodie> +t
[18:50] <melodie> switch
[18:50]  * sick_rimmit dives of to the internet
[18:50] <melodie> :p
[18:50] <melodie> I go cook something, starts to feel hungry here. I'll be back in a little while
[18:53]  * sick_rimmit Thinks kf5 applications would kill Bento Openbox, due to dependencies consuming resources :-(
[18:54] <sick_rimmit> I run Haiku 5 on my old laptop, that makes it run quick.
[18:59] <melodie> sick_rimmit kf5?
[19:00] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: KDE Frameworks 5
[19:00] <sick_rimmit> The new KDE Apps rely on the new Kframeworks
[19:00] <melodie> I use Openbox on all machines (except very old ones where I install antiX MX14 or MX15, which comes with Xfce4, but with the "antiX magic")
[19:00] <sick_rimmit> I think
[19:00] <sick_rimmit> They're quite resource intensive, which might be too much for Older hardware
[19:00] <melodie> most of my machines would be ok with let's say, Xfce4, or even Unity, but I don't like to use more resources for the system and desktop if I can do otherwise
[19:02] <sick_rimmit> I'm sure we'd be delighted for you to try out some of our PPA's see if they'll work for you
[19:02] <melodie> sick_rimmit you comment here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/+bug/1562877 points to the same thread. (error)
[19:02] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1562877 in calligra (Ubuntu) "(Xenial, Openbox) texts fail to display the ^ right on the letters in French in Qt applications" [Undecided,New]
[19:03] <melodie> it points to itself :[
[19:03] <sick_rimmit> Ah that's my stupid trackpad on this laptop, refusing to copy n paste correcty
[19:03] <sick_rimmit> I'll fix it
[19:03] <melodie> ok :)
[19:18] <melodie> sick_rimmit I can see you have fixed the error in your comment
[19:18] <melodie> I have a Kubuntu Trusty installed, along with a 4.4 linux-image (in a x220i thinkpad). What ppa would you want me to try?
[19:18] <sick_rimmit> Well, I would of preferred to old the original, but couldn't seem to figure out how to do that
[19:26] <melodie> sick_rimmit which ppa were you talking about?
[19:27] <melodie> not that I'll stumble upon right away, as I'm quite tired this evening, but I'll have a look and think about it
[19:27] <melodie> at some point
[19:29] <sick_rimmit> !staging
[19:29] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about staging
[19:30] <sick_rimmit> melodie: Check out the article on the left here :- http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/
[19:31] <sick_rimmit> That's got details of our stagging PPA, it may break lots of stuff on your machine, so be for warned 
[19:32] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: I've been using it on 16.04 for a week or so 
[19:32] <telegram> <athoneycutt>: fine so far but warning none the less
[19:40] <snele> I have all 3 staging ppas enabled. all well here too
[19:57] <BluesKaj> the staging ppa isn't giving key warnings, it's the landing ppa that does it here
[20:04] <melodie> ok, good evening night.... have a good one
[20:27] <clivejo> sgclark: no, calligra translations werent done by me
[20:27] <clivejo> translations confuse the hell out of me
[20:44] <clivejo> sgclark: where is the calligra-l10n packaging kept?
[20:51] <sgclark> clivejo: bazaar
[21:03] <clivejo> sgclark: cant find it
[21:04] <sgclark> no link on that tutorial??
[21:10] <clivejo> not that I can see
[21:11] <sgclark> let me look
[23:57] <valorie> hello folks, re: kdenlive, just wanted to be sure that all packagers/devels see this: https://kdenlive.org/node/9460