[03:15] <sysop2> hi, I how do I force kde5 into tablet mode? so I tried booting my tablet without a keyboard  hooked up and it does not put a onscreen keyboard on the screen like I have read it supposed to.
[03:15] <sysop2> I am running 16.04
[03:15] <sysop2> also tried it under 15.10, upgraded to see if that would help
[03:18] <sysop2> on the lock screen I mean.
[03:35] <redditlukls> Hi.
[04:10] <D-rex> why cant i delete files off my USB..I cant change permissons either
[04:10] <D-rex> nm
[04:21] <bob2021> hey.... I had to reinstall and now akonadi won't startup.  can anyone help?
[04:39] <bob2021> hey.... I had to reinstall and now akonadi won't startup.  can anyone help?
[04:46] <bob2021> hey valorie
[04:48] <valorie> hello bob2021
[05:03] <bob2021> how have you been valorie?
[05:03] <valorie> good
[05:03] <valorie> just got back from visiting my father in his nursing home
[05:03] <valorie> how are you?
[05:09] <bob2021> i'm ok
[05:10] <bob2021> actually i had a shitty few days to be honest val
[05:11] <valorie> a non-working akonadi sounds rather bad
[05:11] <valorie> I don't use kmail for a few years, so I have no help to advise
[05:12] <bob2021> valorie: yeah  it was bad --- basically, I had to reinstall ubuntu from scratch because my root drive crashed.  but /usr didn't crash, so i was able to keep the old /usr, but now they're out of sync a little
[05:13] <valorie> why would you keep an old /usr?
[05:13] <valorie> not good to mess with such stuff
[05:13] <valorie> ~/ is worth saving, certainly
[05:14] <valorie> otherwise, I don't know what I would advise at this point
[05:14] <bob2021> valorie: /usr had some things i didn't want to muck with that are kind of technical. but you get the idea of what happened
[05:14] <valorie> reinstallation with no effort to keep that
[05:14] <valorie> certain files, i see
[05:14] <valorie> but not all of /usr
[05:14] <valorie> that just sounds like Trouble
[05:17] <bob2021> everything else works :)
[05:19] <valorie> ok
[05:25] <krakenskulls> i'm having a tough time with nvidia drivers :/ first, i tried to manually install their .run package. This wasn't successful and I'm back to using nouveau. But now, when I select a proprietary driver in Additional Drivers and reboot, I get stuck at a text login. I think what happens is nouveau gets blacklisted automatically, but the nvidia kernel module fails to load, so booting halts
[05:26] <krakenskulls> the only way out is to purge all nvidia packages and reboot... back into nouveau
[05:26] <bob2021> kraken: what gpu is it?
[05:26] <bob2021> is there more than one gpu?
[05:26] <krakenskulls> GTX 880?
[05:27] <krakenskulls> no, just one.. well, theres an onboard (mobo) one too
[05:27] <bob2021> kraken: are you sure that the mobo one doesn't require nouveau?
[05:28] <krakenskulls> im trying to run some CUDA software. if i just do apt-get install nvidia-352 (or whatever), that *should* have loaded the kernel module, right?
[05:28] <bob2021> that's what i do.  don't touch apt-install for cuda man.
[05:28] <krakenskulls> bob2021: nothing is plugged into the mobo one
[05:29] <krakenskulls> sorry i misspoke. its not CUDA, it's openCL
[05:29] <bob2021> doesn't matter what's plugged into it.  the kernel sees it on boot and loads the required driver to it can ask what's up.  then nouveau is in memory and it refuses to load nvidia
[05:29] <bob2021> why would you use opencl?
[05:29] <krakenskulls> oclHashCat's latest experimental build uses that instead of cuda
[05:30] <bob2021> kraken: well, he's wrong
[05:30] <bob2021> opencl is a fraction as efficient as cuda
[05:31] <krakenskulls> i'm afraid to blacklist nouveau because i might dig myself a hole i cant get out of
[05:31] <bob2021> you won't -- what's most likely to happen is that it'll keep loading nouveau even after you blacklist it.
[05:32] <bob2021> in any event, there's no way for you to use nvidia unless nouveau is blacklisted
[05:32] <bob2021> but you shouldn't be using nvidia from the repo
[05:32] <krakenskulls> i swear before this whole mess sstarted i had nvidia working from Additional Drivers
[05:33] <bob2021> what version of kubuntu are you running?
[05:33] <krakenskulls> 14.04
[05:34] <bob2021> the first thing is to see if your mobo card is messing it up.  then you can blacklist nouveau and then install nvidia from the download on their website.  and don't play with opencl, its stupid and ugly.
[05:34] <krakenskulls> lol!@ well they have a cuda version that i'll probably fall back to
[05:35] <bob2021> and trust me - you're talking to a guy currently staring at $7000 worth of gpu's, plus the Titan X that's displaying this window, so I probably know what i'm talking about
[05:35] <krakenskulls> see, all this trouble started when i tried to install the latest download from nvidia tho
[05:35] <bob2021> well you shouldn't have done that
[05:36] <krakenskulls> but thats what you are saying
[05:36] <krakenskulls> from their site
[05:36] <bob2021> rule one of GPU computing:  if your system is processing what you want, don't install anything just leave it the f alone
[05:36] <bob2021> you broke rule 1.  now we have to fix it
[05:36] <krakenskulls> hahaha! yeah really, this is my main box too! i really shouldn't have touched a thing
[05:37] <krakenskulls> i just cant rip this card out right now and put it elsewhere, i need to run my 4k monitor!
[05:37] <valorie> krakenskulls: make a backup, then you will feel under less stress
[05:37] <valorie> one can always reinstall
[05:38] <valorie> it's quick, easy, and if you have a backup.... you'll be fine
[05:38] <krakenskulls> i'd like to, but i donno what tool to use.. theres too many! rsync?
[05:38] <krakenskulls> i miss Norton Ghost
[05:39] <valorie> rsync is best, yes
[05:39] <valorie> ick, I don't miss any gui crap from windows
[05:39] <valorie> and I'm a grandma
[05:39] <krakenskulls> im so used to reinstalls, i just wipe every time something goes wrong.. this time tho, ive really got things set up the way i like
[05:41] <krakenskulls> what about this line from dmesg
[05:41] <krakenskulls> "nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel"
[05:41] <krakenskulls> does that mean anything or is it normal
[05:41] <valorie> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2011/04/rsync-level-expert.html
[05:41] <valorie> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2011/03/rsync-and-backup-success.html
[05:41] <acheron88> that line is normal
[05:41] <valorie> my experiences
[05:42] <krakenskulls> thanks valorie. i think i will at least *attempt* a backup before i go messing with anything further
[05:42] <bob2021> kraken its normal.  it means that nvidia isn't open source, so once it was loaded the whole kernel became non-GNU or whatever
[05:42] <bob2021> its a licensing/open-source thing
[05:43] <valorie> rsync is awesome
[05:43] <bob2021> backups are for cowards
[05:43] <valorie> pfff
[05:43] <krakenskulls> ok.. i was trying to examine logs to figure out why my system booted into a text environment afte rinstalling the nvidia driver
[05:43] <valorie> it's like putting your toolbox in your trunk -- if you have it, you won't need it
[05:43] <valorie> if you don't, guess what?
[05:44] <krakenskulls> well, and i have a big fat synology NAS just sitting around idle
[05:46] <krakenskulls> aha. i think yr onto something bob2021.. lsmod reveals this:
[05:46] <krakenskulls> video                  20480  2 i915,nouveau
[05:46] <krakenskulls> and i915 is Intel graphics (onboard)
[05:47] <bob2021> well that's what i'd expect, but you should google to see what drivers support it
[05:48] <krakenskulls> well thanks, you guys have been great. i'm going to head to bed and attack this thing tomorrow
[06:09] <dima__> i have bugs with fonts in muon discover
[07:37] <Guest12284> 有人在吗？
[07:38] <Guest12284> hello,everbody
[08:39] <duobix> so right now I'm trying a touch-only device with 15.10
[08:40] <duobix> Is there some sort of on-screen keyboard in plasma?
[09:29] <johnflux> what do I run to get kwin and the kicker thing back after they have crashed?
[09:32] <acheron88> in plasma 4 or 5?
[09:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:04] <sbivol> Hi, I'm currently testing Kubuntu 16.04, and the Audio VOlume tray widget does not allow moving apps to different output devices
[10:05] <sbivol> has this feature been moved to some other place?
 Ah yes, I believe you'll find that
 System > System Settings > Multimedia > Audio
 It's part of the KDE controls now, I think
[10:07] <sbivol> I simply want to move Firefox sounds to a bluetooth headset, while leaving all the other sound settings unchanged
[10:08] <sbivol> it was possible in 14.04
[10:08] <sbivol> something like this: click Kmix -> right click Firefox in the list -> Move-> Bluetooth headset
 Sure. There have been lots and lots of changes since 14.04, new frameworks, plasma all that stuff
 Sounds like a really useful feature, might be worth just raising a feature / bug report at bugs.kde.org
 In the meanwhile the control panel will let you configure this
[10:11] <sbivol> yeah, the control panel does that, but permanently and system-wide...
[10:12] <sbivol> the tragedy/comedy of all this is that I bought my first bluetooth headset a week before installing 16.04 over 14.04
[10:12] <sbivol> :)
 It would definetly be worth raising that bug then.
[10:15] <sbivol> thank you, I will serach the bug trackers, maybe someone else already reported that, since I have no idea when exactly had this feature disappeared
[10:15] <sbivol> *search
 Cool, thanks, I will take a look later too, as that is a feature I would like to use. I didn't actually discover that in 14.04
[10:35] <renn0xtk9> how to get full icon support of rhythmbox under Kubuntu ?
 Hmmm. interesting question.
 Rythmnbox uses GTK, so this might be an issue
 Have you had a play around with Amarok ? The interface is very different but it has all the features of Rythmnbox
[10:41] <renn0xtk9> telegram I had a 5 years play around with a 15+ unsolved bug reports with amarok ;)
 Oh dear 😞
 /me wishes he hadn't asked
 I'll take a look at the Bugs for Amarok later, did you have any particularly critical ones, that were a MUST FIX ?
[10:44] <renn0xtk9> I have always had problem regarding playlists and datbase collection lastly I tried to add a song to a xspf playlist stored on the harddrive, i erased all the content of the playlist
[10:44] <renn0xtk9> all sorts of things like that
[10:45] <renn0xtk9> so I quit
[10:45] <renn0xtk9> tried clementine, whic apparently does not handle playlists in a much better way if it handle it at all
[10:45] <renn0xtk9> rhythmbox seems very good, it is just that it lacks the icon under kubuntu
 Well, I will look into what the maintenance status is with Amarok.
 You might be able to add the icon via kmenuedit
 which you can run from Alt+Space i.e kickoff
 Hope that helps
 😃
[10:47] <renn0xtk9> no I am talking the icons inside the app itself
[10:48] <renn0xtk9> i.e. :  http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/28/plasma-desktopsJ2144.png
 I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to that one, maybe someone else might 😞
[10:49] <renn0xtk9> no worries thks
 what about Clementine?
 those should change I would think, maybe change the icon set to something else then back to breeze?
[10:51] <lordievader> Looks like you are missing some gtk packages.
 though the names for the buttons might be different
[10:51] <lordievader> This might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/579447/kubuntu-15-04-vivid-vervet-why-do-gtk-apps-look-ugly
[10:52] <renn0xtk9> clementin is fine except i don't understand how to create a playlist in the playlist tab
[10:53] <lordievader> renn0xtk9: Oh, you make a playlist by adding things the the play queue. Then you save that playqueue as a playlist.
[10:56] <renn0xtk9> lordievader : then it ask you to save as an xspf files but that won't appear on the playlist tab : http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/28/plasma-desktopPu2144.png if i click on the save icon of the right panel (qeue) i get a dialogbox to save the file but that wil never appear on the left tab (playlist tab)
[10:58] <lordievader> Ah, now I remember. This was the stupid way Clementine does its playlists.
[10:59] <lordievader> If you want your playlists to show up in the playlist tab you need to favorite play queues. Normally you don't even see this button with just one playlist...
[11:00] <lordievader> So hit ctrl + n, switch back to the original playlist and hit the star button.
[11:01] <renn0xtk9> lordievader excellent ! thks !
[13:21] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[13:24] <rysiek|pl> so, what's the news about Kubuntu 16.04? I know Kubuntu had a falling out with Canonical, and as far as I understand the Ubuntu 16.04 announcement did not contain info on Kubuntu?
 HI
 No falling out with Kubuntu
 all good, we have the Beta 2 candidates ready to try out if you fancy giving them a go
[13:25] <rysiek|pl> ah
[13:25] <rysiek|pl> cool
 Ubuntu flavours have all moved on the ubuntu website, that's probably why you didn't see them
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:26] <rysiek|pl> hi BluesKaj
 http://kubuntu.org/news/
[13:26] <rysiek|pl> telegram: thanks, that's very helpful
[13:26] <BluesKaj> hi rysiek|pl
 Beta 2 details are there, and also the upcoming Party that you may be interested in
 😃
[13:26]  * rysiek|pl is testing Tanglu these days, but I think I'd rather get back to Kubuntu
 Hiya BluesKaj
[13:27] <BluesKaj> hey Sick_Rimmit
[13:27] <ky> silvio dreßler
[13:28]  * rysiek|pl might spin up a Kubuntu Beta2, because why the heck not
[13:28] <Arran> Hallo
[13:29] <BluesKaj> hi Arran
[13:32] <Arran> OK, I have a small problem. I want to spend the egg-timer a sound. So I open the Settings and tick the OK at execute command. I put in the path to the sound:usr/share/sounds/eigene/dog-barking but is does not work. Any idea?
[13:33] <Arran> Or, in other words, how do I have to write a command?
 Can you play those files from something else, say Amarok for example
[13:36] <Arran> Yes. Even from Sound in KAlarm.
 Hmm....
 Thinks...
 It might be worth trying to run egg-timer from the terminal with strace
 strace will spit lots of info back about what the application is doing
 Which might help you see if the egg-timer is actually attempting to play the file or not
 If it's not then it raise a bug time
 bugs.kde.org
[13:44] <Arran> Egg-timer is a widget and does not listed in the program list.
 Ah right then that'll be why it can't play the sounds then I expect
 It's a Plasma Widget
[13:54] <Arran> OK, Thank you.
[14:40] <RiotingPacifist> closing my lid my computer wakes itself up, but it works fine with pm-suspend, how do i tell kde to use pm-suspend instead of whatever it's using
[15:25] <Arran> Hello
[15:26] <Arran> @ Telegram: I found the solution: your have to type «play /path to your file» and all is well.
 Oh boy, well done
 I thinking about that on the way home, I did think there has to be a way to make that work
[16:24] <d9867eb> join kubuntu
[16:24] <d9867eb> join ##kubuntu
[16:25] <BluesKaj> d9867eb, yes you did
[16:26] <d9867eb> oh i was confused
[17:10] <yahyaa> can someone give me some assistance in installing kubuntu on an Acer Aspire 3000 laptop, please?
[17:11] <RiotingPacifist> yahyaa: what's the issue, not got an aspire but if it's something common maybe
[17:14] <genii> yahyaa: Do you have access to another machine which is already running linux, or is this the only machine you have access to, and if so what OS is currently on it
[17:16] <yahyaa> yes the one im using now
[17:18] <yahyaa> @genii: I normally never have an issue with this, but now im just stumped!
[17:19] <genii> yahyaa: Then the basic procedure is... download the Kubuntu ISO image for AMD64. Then obtain a USB stick which is larger than the image, and use the dd command to copy the image onto the USB stick. After that you should be able to boot the Aspire to the USB stick and install it.
[17:20] <yahyaa> when I try that it always says there is a boot error
[17:21] <genii> yahyaa: Did you check the MD5 or SHA hashes for the image you downloaded?
[17:21] <genii> work, AFK a few minutes
[17:21] <yahyaa> are u refering to the check sum
[17:24] <Novell> yes the checksum
[17:27] <yahyaa> yes i have
[17:31] <genii> Apologies on lag, back and forth from computer
[17:33] <genii> yahyaa: The basic checklist is: check that the image is good. check that the USB stick is good. make sure you run sync or porperly eject it before pulling it out of the computer you are creating it on, so theres no unwritten data. If all these things check out, then the next move is to investigate the error it reports
 Calling testers: A French translation issue in Calligra, needs a quick check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/+bug/1562877
[18:49] <sij> hai
[19:01] <soee> hiho sij
[19:14] <leumas> Hi All, having a very hard time installing Steam on my PC, Kubuntu 15.10, any link or helpon how to solve this. I installed via apt.
[19:16] <sick_rimmit> leumas: Did it complete the install, or give you errors ? If errors can you pastebin the output
[19:17] <leumas> sick_rimmit: it did complete the installation, just cant start it up
[19:18] <sick_rimmit> Hmmm, have you rebooted ( not that you should need to )
[19:19] <leumas> sick_rimmit: i have
[19:19] <leumas> sick_rimmit: pls how do i pastebin?
[19:19] <sick_rimmit> OK, I have never used steam.. but...
[19:20] <leumas> sick_rimmit: am getting a warnng msg if i paste it directly
[19:20] <sick_rimmit> Open a Konsole ( Terminal )
[19:20] <sick_rimmit> Type: which steam
[19:20] <sick_rimmit> you should get something like /usr/bin/steam returned
[19:20] <sick_rimmit> if so then try typing steam
[19:21] <sick_rimmit> i.e try to run it from the terminal.
[19:21] <leumas> i have done that but the error msg is very long
[19:21] <Novell> steam worked out of the box for me
[19:21] <sick_rimmit> Hopefully it will spit out some errors
[19:21] <sick_rimmit> !info pastebin
[19:21] <Novell> I'm even using it on 16.04 without any issue
[19:21] <sick_rimmit> !info paste
[19:21] <sick_rimmit> !help pastebin
[19:22] <sick_rimmit> !pastebin
[19:22] <sick_rimmit> Ah ha
[19:22] <sick_rimmit> OK copy your output and paste it there, then drop me the link in here :-D
[19:22] <leumas> ubottu: thanks!
[19:23] <leumas> https://paste.kde.org/p9wbtmgwb
[19:25] <leumas> sick_rimmit: i hope that worked, can you see the error?
[19:25] <sick_rimmit> leumas: Do you have chromium installed ?
[19:25] <sick_rimmit> Yes
[19:25] <leumas> sick_rimmit: I have Google chrome
[19:27] <sick_rimmit> I think it's worth checking this
[19:27] <sick_rimmit> [0328/201758:ERROR:browser_main_loop.cc(203)] Running without the SUID sandbox! See https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxSUIDSandboxDevelopment for more information on developing with the sandbox on.
[19:27] <sick_rimmit> Its line 9 from your error output.
[19:28] <sick_rimmit>  2I suspect that is the cause of the later Segfault from the steam.sh script reported at line 27
[19:28] <jonathan_xx> does anyone know how to change the font used by libreoffice etc. for its UI?
[19:28] <leumas> Ok checking it out now
[19:29] <jonathan_xx> I'm in KDE (Kubuntu 16.04) and everything looks pretty good but LO is hideous.
[19:30] <leumas> sick_rimmit: are you suggesting i use chromium to fix steam?
[19:34] <Fritigern> Does anybody know of an IRC client that has built-in "execute on trigger" functionality? I have looked at IRSSI and theitr trigger plugin is confusing to me, and KVirc requires me to write a script from scratch (and without scripting knowledge) so I am really looking for an IRC client that lets me execute an external command (like ./myscript.sh) when keywords X is spoken by user Y in channel Z
[20:15] <drw> Fritigern: Not that I am aware of, sounds like something someone would create a bot for, not something in an IRC client
[20:21] <jonathan_xx> can someone please tell me how to change the single/double click behaviour in Dolphin in KDE of 16.04?
[20:21] <jonathan_xx> I'm crying here.
[20:22] <delatjua> System Settings -> input devices -> mouse
[20:25] <delatjua> those for general use. In dolphin, Control -> Configure Dolphin -> Navigation
[20:26] <jonathan_xx> oh thank you.... there is nothing in that navigation thing anymore
[20:27] <delatjua> then, I dont know. I have the change to change the clicking options there
[20:27] <jonathan_xx> yes it is in the system settings now as you mentioned.
[20:28] <jonathan_xx> thanks !
[20:28] <jonathan_xx> I was going crazy, I keep going crazy all the time.
[20:29] <delatjua> take it easy... One of the things with KDE is that there is always an option somewhere...
[20:29] <delatjua> a way to configure something...
[20:29] <jonathan_xx> yeah but like, the first 2-3 times I opened the Dolphin settings thing, Dolphin crashed.
[20:30] <jonathan_xx> things like that quickly deplete your resources, at least for me it does.
[20:30] <delatjua> ha!
[20:31] <jonathan_xx> and all of the widgets that show on the kde desktop are dysfunctional except for one tiny resource monitor
[20:31] <jonathan_xx> ie. the "show folder" widget will just show a small square with nothing in it, yeah there is something in it, but you can't really see what.
[20:32] <jonathan_xx> the other ie. the other resource widgets are all crap, they are dysfunctional, don't actually do what they are supposed to do.
[20:33] <jonathan_xx> since I don't want an empty desktop, the only viable thing now is the "show folder contents" thing.
[20:35] <drw> Desktop? I haven't seen a desktop in decades...always covered with windows... :)
[20:39] <jonathan_xx> show desktop is now dysfunctional, it doesn't show a clear desktop anymore, it has these corners of windows sitting in the corners of the screen that you can't even interact with.
[20:41] <jonathan_xx> on the desktop there is this 3-stripe widget that you see everywhere, that gives access to some functionality, but is there a way to get rid of it?
[20:42] <drw> t
[20:44] <BluesKaj> jonathan_xx, no it's also a context menu for activities, desktop settings etc
[20:45] <jonathan_xx> all of that is available by right-click on the desktop as well
[20:46] <jonathan_xx> I don't use activities though and probably never will...............
[20:47] <BluesKaj> activities has replaced the pager for virtual desktops on my system
[20:59] <jonathan_xx> I was able to remove it.
[20:59] <jonathan_xx> I wish I had a good wiki somewhere to record these things.
[21:01] <jonathan_xx__> sudo mv org.kde.desktoptoolbox/ org.kde.desktoptoolbox-removed
[21:01] <jonathan_xx__> erm.....
[21:02] <jonathan_xx__> from /usr/share/plasma/packages
[21:06] <jonathan_xx> is there any way to get any file information in Dolphin from the icon view without right-clicking the file?
[21:06] <jonathan_xx> the icon size slider is about the most useless thing you can put into any window.
[21:12] <jonathan_xx> "I'm neither slim nor shady. As a matter of fact, I find both references insulting. Now, get out of my sight before I plant my staff up your backside.".