=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === xiinotulp is now known as plutoniix === shuduo is now known as shuduo-afk === shuduo-afk is now known as shuduo === LibreSponge is now known as AuroraAvenue === shuduo is now known as shuduo-afk === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [11:08] http://news.softpedia.com/news/the-first-ubuntu-tablet-bq-aquaris-m10-is-available-for-pre-order-now-502231.shtml [11:44] !devices | bitanarchy [11:44] bitanarchy: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [11:45] bitanarchy: you can also check the XDA forums if there's an existing project for your device/brand [11:49] not many devices supported....i had a nexus 4... the screen is broken [11:50] bitanarchy: well there are some projects going on for some devices, not sure for yours sorry [11:55] the i9300 is almost working... RIL layer problems === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader|afk [14:00] Hey i confirm that the gps has regressed on mako rc-proposed. I get a correct fix but cannot use unav after like 1min of navigation the location stays at the same place. :-( === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [14:23] jamesh, hi, I am trying to detect when the mediascanner has finished the media processing when I copy bunch of videos [14:24] jamesh, is it any way to determine when all the media has been processed? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:48] hi [14:52] are there some news about printing in ubuntu touch? [14:54] the plumbing has been made to work but there is UI work to be done [14:56] pmcgowan, so cups is working? [14:57] Guest26605, yes but not sure everything is in the image yet [14:58] sorry not a very good answer, the work was done to enable it, I woul dneed to check the status of the packages [15:00] what channel is working ? [15:00] devel-proposed ? [15:00] devel-proposed isn't a good channel to try - that's xenial [15:01] and I don't think any other channel has the cups parts all in [15:01] isnt't xenial the "next"? [15:02] eh? [15:02] all our currently supported images are based off vivid [15:02] xenial is working fine here on a desktop [15:03] same here [15:03] the phone image is built differently though [15:03] and xenial images aren't fully tested so not supported yet [15:05] popey: the meizu link in topic is dead, just reporting [15:05] ta === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bug filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html | https://store.bq.com/en/ubuntu-edition-aquaris-m10 | http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet | OTA-9.1 released [15:15] * mcphail has been Android-free for 1 year today :) [15:15] congrats! [15:16] * lotuspsychje doesnt have any other devices in the house then ubuntu [15:16] what about the "fstab.mt8163", will it in the future support "auto" for the filesystem? [15:16] lotuspsychje: Ta, but it is really thanks to the team for making this happen! [15:17] mcphail: for sure, they have changed the world with this [15:19] "/devices/mtk-msdc.0/11240000.MSDC1 auto vfat defaults voldmanaged=sdcard1:auto" is not so nice [15:21] why vfat? === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:22] normally "auto" also should work [15:24] isn't it? [15:28] Guest26605: man mount says "if your data is valuable, don't ask mount to guess" [15:29] I am not talking about "man mount" I am talking about the "fstab.mt8163" [15:33] I mean the fstab.mt8163 inside the "recovery-frieza.img-kernel.img" [15:34] Guest26605: why do you think that has nothing to do with "man mount"? [15:35] because mount supports "auto" for the file system, but it is not included?! [15:36] 15:28 < mcphail> Guest26605: man mount says "if your data is valuable, don't ask mount to guess" [15:37] Guest26605: it is always best practice to be explicit about the filesystem [16:02] good evening... [16:05] Are Ubuntu Phone core applications developped with C or QML? [16:05] mimecar: mainly QML and C++, form what I've seen [16:05] *from [16:06] Ok , I'm thinking program some things and wanted to know the language that was more likely . [16:06] I think I will start with QML [16:06] mimecar: you can, of course, develop your own apps in whatever language you choose [16:07] yes, I use Java on Android and I would like learn other language [16:07] there is not problem with QML and C++ [16:08] mimecar: that is the best supported combination (or, for more limited apps, QML + javascript) [16:08] ok === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:17] thanks mcphail === suebt_ is now known as suebt === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [16:51] btw i confirm the gps regression is not only due to unav here maps is showing the same behaviour [16:57] taiebot, you mean the crash? that should be fixed in current image [16:59] pmcgowan: no it does not crash anymore. After like 2min in the navigation the location stop getting updated. [17:00] hmm [17:00] taiebot: you might be able to get some more info/help tomorrow. most of EU people are away today [17:01] dobey pmcgowan: is there a debug i could enable and go for a little walk and report it properly? [17:03] taiebot, yes let me find the page [17:03] taiebot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/location-service#Forensics === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [17:24] mariogrip: since today's a holiday in most of europe, and I'm mid-upgrade to xenial, let's postpone our normal call until later in the week [17:24] mhall119: yeah, sure. it's holiday here in norway to today [17:32] mhall119: do you have time Wednesday maybe? [17:33] mariogrip: I do, either same time up an hour earlier [17:33] mhall119: same time works for me [17:34] cool, I've updated the calendar invite [17:34] :) === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [19:24] mariogrip: hey. aren't bacon, hammerhead, and manta "active" devices on ubports now? shouldn't they be under that heading? === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [19:42] coding c++ on Ubuntu Touch [19:43] Is this possible to compile on the tablet? [19:44] yup [19:44] make a chroot and build inside that [19:44] lib7404: yes, but not really a good idea for most people [19:45] Ideally, I would love to be able to leave my system76 laptop at home (6+ lbs). I sometimes need to write some quick code at a clients office or tweak something or another. [19:46] The BQ M10 FHD seems to be rather weal on the RAM (2GB) [19:46] weak [19:47] lib7404: remember you'll have to cross compile if you want to generate x86 code. That adds extra complexity [19:47] ahh yes. [19:49] The other option I have is python. Is that available? [19:50] yes. Again, probably best building a chroot on the phone if you want to install different modules etc [19:51] Ok. Will the OTA updates be an issue if software is added? [19:52] lib7404: not if you use a chroot to install your custom things [19:52] Great. Many thanks! [19:52] lib7404: enjoy! [19:53] lib7404: while python is on the phone, there's no guarantee it always will be [19:54] I was looking into getting the M10 Tablet. [20:22] doh that person left === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:15] So....how soon are we to having a working ubuntu phone in the US? [21:23] EOBeav: well, if you buy a nexus 4 off ebay and flash it, you'll have one :) [21:24] but as for avaialble from a carrier, that's up to manufacturers/carriers. so best to keep asking your carrier for an ubuntu phone [21:24] Really...is there some good documentation for doing this? [21:24] yes [21:24] !devices | EOBeav [21:24] EOBeav: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [21:24] Nice, thanks for the heads up. I'm in the market for a new phone and was just wondering what's available in ubuntu. [21:26] i use it on my nexus 5, but it doesn't have bluetooth support on that device, and battery life isn't great, so may not be what you want [21:26] anyway, i have to go now [21:26] good luck :) [22:50] I have a Nexus 7 2012 and I am trying to install the grouper ubuntu image to it [22:51] can I do this through my ubuntu desktop commandline? [22:52] or can I do it through TWRP? [23:00] Phantisy: not sure. The 2012 Nexus 7 hasn't been supported for ages. Are you sure you want to install? The build will be archaic and unsupported [23:00] I was just curious to try it out. Is it something that can be used for a daily driver? [23:01] Phantisy: I've never tried it, but the reports are bad [23:02] Phantisy: if it works at all, it is going to be a security nightmare. It won't have been patched in ages [23:05] Alright. I was just wanting to install it and mess around. I have had the tablet sitting around collecting dust. [23:06] Phantisy: if you ask again in European office hours tomorrow, I'm sure someone will be around who has experience with that device [23:07] Alright. I work overnight so I am sure I will be awake when they are around. Thank you for your time.