[11:08] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/the-first-ubuntu-tablet-bq-aquaris-m10-is-available-for-pre-order-now-502231.shtml
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> !devices | bitanarchy
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> bitanarchy: you can also check the XDA forums if there's an existing project for your device/brand
[11:49] <bitanarchy> not many devices supported....i had a nexus 4... the screen is broken
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> bitanarchy: well there are some projects going on for some devices, not sure for yours sorry
[11:55] <bitanarchy> the i9300 is almost working... RIL layer problems
[14:00] <taiebot> Hey i confirm that the gps has regressed on mako rc-proposed. I get a correct fix but cannot use unav after like 1min of navigation the location stays at the same place. :-(
[14:23] <cachio> jamesh, hi, I am trying to detect when the mediascanner has finished the media processing when I copy bunch of videos
[14:24] <cachio> jamesh, is it any way to determine when all the media has been processed?
[14:48] <Guest26605> hi
[14:52] <Guest26605> are there some news about printing in ubuntu touch?
[14:54] <pmcgowan> the plumbing has been made to work but there is UI work to be done
[14:56] <Guest26605> pmcgowan, so cups is working?
[14:57] <pmcgowan> Guest26605, yes but not sure everything is in the image yet
[14:58] <pmcgowan> sorry not a very good answer, the work was done to enable it, I woul dneed to check the status of the packages
[15:00] <Guest26605> what channel is working ?
[15:00] <Guest26605> devel-proposed ?
[15:00] <popey> devel-proposed isn't a good channel to try - that's xenial
[15:01] <popey> and I don't think any other channel has the cups parts all in
[15:01] <Guest26605> isnt't xenial the "next"?
[15:02] <popey> eh?
[15:02] <popey> all our currently supported images are based off vivid
[15:02] <Guest26605> xenial is working fine here on a desktop
[15:03] <popey> same here
[15:03] <popey> the phone image is built differently though
[15:03] <popey> and xenial images aren't fully tested so not supported yet
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> popey: the meizu link in topic is dead, just reporting
[15:05] <popey> ta
[15:15]  * mcphail has been Android-free for 1 year today :)
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> congrats!
[15:16]  * lotuspsychje doesnt have any other devices in the house then ubuntu
[15:16] <Guest26605> what about the "fstab.mt8163", will it in the future support "auto" for the filesystem?
[15:16] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: Ta, but it is really thanks to the team for making this happen!
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: for sure, they have changed the world with this
[15:19] <Guest26605> "/devices/mtk-msdc.0/11240000.MSDC1 auto vfat defaults voldmanaged=sdcard1:auto" is not so nice
[15:21] <Guest26605> why vfat?
[15:22] <Guest26605> normally "auto" also should work
[15:24] <Guest26605> isn't it?
[15:28] <mcphail> Guest26605: man mount says "if your data is valuable, don't ask mount to guess"
[15:29] <Guest26605> I am not talking about "man mount" I am talking about the "fstab.mt8163"
[15:33] <Guest26605> I mean the  fstab.mt8163 inside the "recovery-frieza.img-kernel.img"
[15:34] <mcphail> Guest26605: why do you think that has nothing to do with "man mount"?
[15:35] <Guest26605> because mount supports "auto" for the file system, but it is not included?!
[15:36] <mcphail> 15:28 < mcphail> Guest26605: man mount says "if your data is valuable, don't ask mount to guess"
[15:37] <mcphail> Guest26605: it is always best practice to be explicit about the filesystem
[16:02] <mimecar> good evening...
[16:05] <mimecar> Are Ubuntu Phone core applications developped with C or QML?
[16:05] <mcphail> mimecar: mainly QML and C++, form what I've seen
[16:05] <mcphail> *from
[16:06] <mimecar> Ok , I'm thinking program some things and wanted to know the language that was more likely .
[16:06] <mimecar> I think I will start with QML
[16:06] <mcphail> mimecar: you can, of course, develop your own apps in whatever language you choose
[16:07] <mimecar> yes, I use Java on Android and I would like learn other language
[16:07] <mimecar> there is not problem with QML and C++
[16:08] <mcphail> mimecar: that is the best supported combination (or, for more limited apps, QML + javascript)
[16:08] <mimecar> ok
[16:17] <mimecar> thanks mcphail
[16:51] <taiebot> btw i confirm the gps regression is not only due to unav here maps is showing the same behaviour
[16:57] <pmcgowan> taiebot, you mean the crash? that should be fixed in current image
[16:59] <taiebot> pmcgowan: no it does not crash anymore. After like 2min in the navigation the location stop getting updated.
[17:00] <pmcgowan> hmm
[17:00] <dobey> taiebot: you might be able to get some more info/help tomorrow. most of EU people are away today
[17:01] <taiebot> dobey pmcgowan: is there a debug i could enable and go for a little walk and report it properly?
[17:03] <pmcgowan> taiebot, yes let me find the page
[17:03] <pmcgowan> taiebot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/location-service#Forensics
[17:24] <mhall119> mariogrip: since today's a holiday in most of europe, and I'm mid-upgrade to xenial, let's postpone our normal call until later in the week
[17:24] <mariogrip> mhall119: yeah, sure. it's holiday here in norway to today
[17:32] <mariogrip> mhall119: do you have time Wednesday maybe?
[17:33] <mhall119> mariogrip: I do, either same time up an hour earlier
[17:33] <mariogrip> mhall119: same time works for me
[17:34] <mhall119> cool, I've updated the calendar invite
[17:34] <mariogrip> :)
[19:24] <dobey> mariogrip: hey. aren't bacon, hammerhead, and manta "active" devices on ubports now? shouldn't they be under that heading?
[19:42] <lib7404> coding c++ on Ubuntu Touch
[19:43] <lib7404> Is this possible to compile on the tablet?
[19:44] <popey> yup
[19:44] <popey> make a chroot and build inside that
[19:44] <mcphail> lib7404: yes, but not really a good idea for most people
[19:45] <lib7404> Ideally, I would love to be able to leave my system76 laptop at home (6+ lbs). I sometimes need to write some quick code at a clients office or tweak something or another.
[19:46] <lib7404> The BQ M10 FHD seems to be rather weal on the RAM (2GB)
[19:46] <lib7404> weak
[19:47] <mcphail> lib7404: remember you'll have to cross compile if you want to generate x86 code. That adds extra complexity
[19:47] <lib7404> ahh yes.
[19:49] <lib7404> The other option I have is python. Is that available?
[19:50] <mcphail> yes. Again, probably best building a chroot on the phone if you want to install different modules etc
[19:51] <lib7404> Ok. Will the OTA updates be an issue if software is added?
[19:52] <mcphail> lib7404: not if you use a chroot to install your custom things
[19:52] <lib7404> Great. Many thanks!
[19:52] <mcphail> lib7404: enjoy!
[19:53] <popey> lib7404: while python is on the phone, there's no guarantee it always will be
[19:54] <lib7404> I was looking into getting the M10 Tablet.
[20:22] <dobey> doh that person left
[21:15] <EOBeav> So....how soon are we to having a working ubuntu phone in the US?
[21:23] <dobey> EOBeav: well, if you buy a nexus 4 off ebay and flash it, you'll have one :)
[21:24] <dobey> but as for avaialble from a carrier, that's up to manufacturers/carriers. so best to keep asking your carrier for an ubuntu phone
[21:24] <EOBeav> Really...is there some good documentation for doing this?
[21:24] <dobey> yes
[21:24] <dobey> !devices | EOBeav
[21:24] <EOBeav> Nice, thanks for the heads up. I'm in the market for a new phone and was just wondering what's available in ubuntu.
[21:26] <dobey> i use it on my nexus 5, but it doesn't have bluetooth support on that device, and battery life isn't great, so may not be what you want
[21:26] <dobey> anyway, i have to go now
[21:26] <dobey> good luck :)
[22:50] <Phantisy> I have a Nexus 7 2012 and I am trying to install the grouper ubuntu image to it
[22:51] <Phantisy> can I do this through my ubuntu desktop commandline?
[22:52] <Phantisy> or can I do it through TWRP?
[23:00] <mcphail> Phantisy: not sure. The 2012 Nexus 7 hasn't been supported for ages. Are you sure you want to install? The build will be archaic and unsupported
[23:00] <Phantisy> I was just curious to try it out. Is it something that can be used for a daily driver?
[23:01] <mcphail> Phantisy: I've never tried it, but the reports are bad
[23:02] <mcphail> Phantisy: if it works at all, it is going to be a security nightmare. It won't have been patched in ages
[23:05] <Phantisy> Alright. I was just wanting to install it and mess around. I have had the tablet sitting around collecting dust.
[23:06] <mcphail> Phantisy: if you ask again in European office hours tomorrow, I'm sure someone will be around who has experience with that device
[23:07] <Phantisy> Alright. I work  overnight so I am sure I will be awake when they are around. Thank you for your time.