[05:31] morning inetpro superfly and all over lurkers [05:32] ohi Cryterion [06:01] oh inetpro ty tzwatch works fine onece you get it setup [06:29] good morning [06:29] hi magespawn [06:30] apt moo for your enjoyment [06:30] what does that do? [06:31] try it, shows you an easter egg in the apt program [06:31] lol [06:32] hahaha [06:34] there are a few of these sort of things scattered through out software [06:35] * magespawn goes looking for some more [06:37] Kilos: have you ever used aptitude on its own [06:37] ? [06:39] i use aptitude all the time mae [06:40] not "sudo aptitude install package" just "aptitude" [06:44] Gmorn Kilos hoe gaan dit? [06:44] Langjan: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell langjan https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2013-January/002560.html" 14 hours, 30 minutes and 53 seconds ago [06:45] hi Langjan goed dankie en self [06:46] Goed dankie dankie vir die link, looks like I must try to limit my mail folder to 4 GB due to bugs? [06:47] just move some [06:48] OK its on 4GB now, have deleted some. Move to where? [06:48] into another folder or something [06:48] OK will have a bash [06:48] we can ask pro when he appears [06:49] Battling to get Google Earth installed properly [06:49] why [06:49] how are you installing it [06:49] It was running fine on prev install, but now it only shows outline of earth and lines where continents are situated [06:50] oh my [06:50] I tried all the ways I could find in Google, mainly download deb file from website and run from repositories [06:50] do aptitude reinstall [06:51] Does this massage have anything to do with the prob? Failed to download extra data files, then [06:51] i see googleearth in synaptic [06:52] ttf -mscorefonts-installer [06:52] most likely [06:52] oh that is also in aptitude [06:52] i synaptic i mean [06:53] the mscorefonts thing you have to tick accept [06:53] once halfway installed [06:54] wb some chores to do quick [06:54] ok fine thks [07:01] hi dlPhreak [07:01] back Langjan [07:04] chores done? [07:05] ja just fed hoenders [07:05] grass sopping wet and cold [07:06] winter is near sigh [07:06] Sjoe. Still warm here, but a bit cooler. I battled with same prob last time with Earth [07:07] what does this guy say [07:07] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Ru3HME64Y [07:07] Eventually came right, but this time, eish [07:07] Good evening Kilos [07:07] is your laptop and desktop 32bit [07:07] hi superfly [07:08] 32 bit seems to be going out of fashion [07:08] Ive been to that site tkhs, but it relates to 64 bit, I'm 32 and seems the issue could be there [07:08] oh [07:08] have you got that other thing installed [07:08] um [07:09] er [07:09] multiarch [07:09] something like that [07:09] There seems to be a lot of bantering about 32 and 64 bit [07:09] in the earth installs [07:10] https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiI_uzd6eLLAhUH6A4KHUKtB7YQFggbMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FGoogleEarth&usg=AFQjCNHdCcxLxuNdRghX7mo5m8AHG4Af-A&sig2=Mc1F_1FOVhvJc8HK8O_kjQ [07:11] sjoe long one [07:11] i dont use it, it eats data [07:12] Been to that one also, does not work [07:12] maybe this one [07:12] https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiI_uzd6eLLAhUH6A4KHUKtB7YQFggtMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Flinuxg.net%2Fhow-to-properly-install-google-earth-on-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-13-10-and-derivative-systems%2F&usg=AFQjCNFEV_beaAD4AEfsiB2NkhnEZBOWUA&sig2=8s74CbF9N2u1CtVnSAK6dw [07:12] says how to properly install on 32 bit [07:13] been to that one too [07:13] lets try again [07:13] oh my [07:13] OK do I uninstall and delete eveything before trying again?s [07:14] yes thats wise, use aptitude to purge it [07:14] Including downloaded deb file? [07:14] suod aptitude purge package [07:14] save that package [07:15] and .googleearth folder [07:15] did you find mscorefonts [07:15] no [07:15] keeps failing [07:15] yes the . file too or rename it [07:15] keeps failing [07:15] error message [07:16] ms corefonts failed to download [07:16] are you online? [07:16] extra data files [07:16] yes [07:16] try synaptic [07:16] course have tried also [07:16] look there for it [07:17] does not help the problem I was there also [07:17] is lappy 32 bit as well? [07:17] yes [07:17] do you need to be root? [07:17] have you got it working =there [07:18] let my try that last link you sent [07:18] are you on lappy or desktop now? [07:23] Desktop [07:23] does earth work on laptop? [07:23] Not sure [07:24] oh ok [07:24] thought maybe it had the packages already [07:24] i see it's in synaptic on 1404 [07:24] Bit it worked fine on my desktop previously [07:24] yes but same result [07:25] builds your own deb package [07:27] I'm sending you a screenshot of how it looks [07:29] Had the eact same roblem last time, but as I said I eventually got it right, but not this time [07:29] oh me oh my [07:30] i have 32bit bento 14.04 ill try there [07:30] hopefully not massive packages [07:30] It also says corefonts is latest version already installed [07:31] package is 45 MB [07:31] ill try there [07:35] Thks Kilos , GE is not on my lappie - will chat later, kids are still visiting [07:35] ok [08:17] sigh [08:17] Langjan i have it installed [08:17] first i did ttf-mscorefonts in synaptic [08:19] here you need to watch synaptic and minimise it and behind you find the corefonts accept window you have to tick accept before corefonts install [08:19] then i used gdebi as it says in that link [08:20] it starts here and then says graphics card doesnt support it [08:24] ttf-mscorefonts are not gpl/opensource that is why there is a accept window, there is a licence attached to their use [08:26] yes magespawn but i think he isnt seeing the accept button window [08:27] it was hidden behind synaptic here [08:27] and google earth uses them [08:27] i remember now when he battled last time it was the same thing [08:29] im sure its that accept window he is missing [08:30] well i hope so [08:48] does anybody here have an account on the mybroadband forums? I want to respond to this (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/807488-Seeking-C-C-C-Java-programming-jobs) guy, but the mybroadband forums have been so broken for the last couple of days that I can't seem to register an account [08:48] hi klaasvakie [08:48] hi Kilos [08:48] long time no see [08:48] indeed sir, life has had me running around quite a bit [08:48] sjoe [08:49] all good with you? [08:49] yes ty [08:49] everyone else also busy busy busy all the time [08:50] looks like it, at least the tech industry seems to be fairly healthy [08:50] overworked [08:51] one should never complain about having too much work :) [08:51] most only make it hear in the evenings [08:51] here [08:51] running 16.04 yet? [08:51] nope [08:52] i'm also holding off [08:52] not sure what systemd will bring [08:52] i'll wait for the other people to figure it out first [08:52] ill wait until they have got through the first lot of bugs [08:52] 14.04 is trouble free [08:53] but kde normally works better imo [08:53] they seem to put in an extra bit of effort [08:53] yes, although some of the packages are getting a bit long in the tooth. Enigmail stopped working the other day (gpg version too old), needed a PPA for owncloud-client [08:53] superfly and inetpro are running 16.04 already [08:54] i use thunderbird [08:54] i use windowmaker for my desktop, so I am mostly unphased by whatever the gnome and KDE people are up to [08:54] ah [08:54] enigmail is the most popular gpg plugin for thunderbird [08:54] good mornings [08:55] hi inetpro [08:55] Langjan: I'm not saying that your problem is definitely a size limit issue, but it is very likely [08:55] the OS can handle the size but Thunderbird unfortunately has not moved along quick enough in the last few years as developers are laser-focused on Firefox placing a burden on Thunderbird [08:56] the way to handle this load issue is to create sub folders inside 'Local Folders' and move your mails there rather than as sub folders of your Inbox [08:56] when you've done this you will see different files and folders created under your Mail folder of your Thunderbird profile [09:03] Yeesh, I would love to earn 60k, but you've got another thing coming if you think I'll move to Gauteng for that. [09:04] hehe [09:04] klaasvakie: are you trying to use the mobile version of the Mybroadband.co.za firms? [09:04] *forums [09:05] no [09:05] just the website, I can register, but the confirmation email never reaches me, in fact, I don't even see them trying to hit my mail server [09:06] they seem to be having som serious issues though, see the thread here: (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/676238-MyBroadband-forum-problems) [09:12] superfly: if you have an account, can you PM semblance to pop me an email? [09:24] klaasvakie: I can, but only later. I'm not on my pc right now. [09:25] ok thnks [09:54] Maaz tell Langjan jy moet baie ver terug lees oom [09:54] Kilos: Righto, I'll tell Langjan on freenode [10:09] OK Kilos got it thks, but dont see the licence acceptance you refer to, however, my system says I have the latest mscorefonts installed [10:09] Langjan: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell Langjan jy moet baie ver terug lees oom" 14 minutes and 54 seconds ago [10:18] check the error message again Langjan [10:19] did you get the accept eula popup when you installed mscorefonts [10:19] without accepting it it wont work [10:22] There was an acceptance done at some stage [10:23] before reinstalls? [10:24] no after. Theres a 720 MB .thunderbird folder inside my .thunderbird folder, do I need it? [10:25] i dunno [10:25] move it somewhere else and see if everything still works [10:25] Wondered if it sneaked in there and is just clutter [10:25] jy doen snaakse goed [10:26] OK [10:26] Jy, lmga [10:26] hahaha [10:26] dis hoekom jy joonk bly, die lag is goed vir jou [10:26] haha dankie baie [10:29] i would remove everything related to googleearth and mscorefonts with synaptic then check if there are dot files and remove them then do the commands on that site [10:30] OK still visiting, will be free tomorrow to carry on with that one, dankie sover my goeie vriende [10:30] it must work [10:30] ok [10:30] enige tyd [12:27] good afternoon [12:27] has anyone used vodacom's ecrypt software on linux? [12:32] magespawn: that java app that's build for deadrat 4 or something ridiculous like that? [15:09] the one they insist you use to 'decrypt' your statement [15:10] like that makes it more secure [15:29] o/ all [15:45] magespawn: I did, long time ago [15:46] used to work without much of a problem [15:56] magespawn: but I don't use it these days... just use the My Vodacom web interface [15:58] inetpro it works fine, i just have about a years worth of invoices and statements to 'decrypt' [15:59] doing it file by file is a pain [16:10] i was hoping there was a quicker way, maybe by listing all the files in one go [16:14] hmm... [16:14] Maaz hmm... [16:14] hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking [16:19] * inetpro installs ecrypt in /usr/local/bin [16:21] at times said person is actually thinking [16:23] yikes! [16:23] magespawn try it man [16:23] what yikes? [16:23] that version of ecrypt from Vodacom is a 32bit app [16:30] and after installing the following ecrypt all works fine again [16:30] sudo apt install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386 [16:30] not sure whether I needed all of them though [16:30] clever guy our pro [16:30] go mr fixit [16:31] now I can open my statement at file:///tmp/EFA.GtXat8/index.html in the browser [16:31] magespawn are you taking note [16:32] so I have three old efa statements in a folder I just do the following to decrypt them all at once: [16:32] $ for f in *.efa; do ecrypt $f;done [16:34] and after that I can see the different statements with the following: [16:34] $ ls -l /tmp/EFA.*/index.html [16:37] and afterwards just remove all those files and folders again to clean up [16:42] Kilos: he fell asleep? [16:42] yeah looks like it hey [16:43] why dont you put akk thats info on the patebin inetpro [16:43] pastebin [16:43] and [16:44] to install it in /usr/local/bin do you cd to there and then install? [16:46] Kilos: the download is one simple tar file [16:47] i will knock on your door when i need to read bank statements again [16:47] I just untar and move it to /usr/local/bin in order to execute without having to change my path [16:48] it's just a simple little cli app to decrypt efa files [16:57] no i am here, family here too, so easily distracted [16:58] yay [16:59] notes taken, thanks inetpro [17:29] inetpro 11c tonight [17:29] kry komberse reg [17:30] Kilos: ek dag amper jy wil my 11c betaal :-) [17:30] lol [17:31] daar's 'n groot verskil tussen 11°C en 11c [17:31] need to sort the compose key thing again [17:32] somehow i did something wrong [17:32] right alt+shift+0 [17:32] first putting inner winter inner into douvet [17:33] just need to ensure that you've set to use the south african keyboard [17:33] i have it working on lappy old drive with left win as compose [17:33] havent doen it here i think [17:33] douvet first [17:35] 11°C is not that cold [17:35] what [17:35] ill freeze my nuts off [17:36] nice [17:45] ai! now ive forgotten how to make a compose key [17:45] no compose in options [17:46] inetpro fixit [17:46] pretty please [17:46] and what is the fn key bottom left? [17:50] Hi Kilos hoe gaan dit? [17:50] hi Langjan ok dankie en daar [17:50] gaan koud is vanaand [17:50] 11 grade c [17:51] Goed dankie [17:51] Ja julle is nader aan die Suidpool... [17:51] lol [17:51] sjoe [17:52] Could you get GEarth to work on the lappie? [17:52] yes but massive job [17:52] Eish! Why? [17:52] Mine is still the same... [17:53] had to get the .deb file and aslo install many dependancies [17:53] many dependancies you have to install on your own [17:53] lsb-core is one [17:53] How do you know what dependancies you need? [17:54] lemme try find the links [17:54] Well mine says lsb core is latest, still doesnt work [17:54] Thks [17:54] http://askubuntu.com/questions/614761/how-to-make-google-earth-stable-in-ubuntu-14-04-2-64-bit [17:54] thats one [17:55] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth [17:56] i installed all dependancies on both then downloaded the .deb file [17:56] you can install it with gdebi [17:56] kde uses its own install goodie [17:56] oh my [17:56] you 2bit [17:56] 32 [17:56] yes [17:57] read both links they say how [17:58] Seems crazily complicated, gets worse ebery time I try [17:58] every [17:58] lol yeah [17:59] just folow all the 32 bit instructions [18:00] make-googleearth-package --help: no such file or directory [18:01] did you miss something before [18:04] Frankly, I'm gatvol about this effort, will maybe just write it off for now [18:04] was a painful exercise even on 64bit [18:05] installed easy on old desktop [18:05] I have better things to do than run around googlemania [18:05] go to synaptic [18:05] type in the ms-corefonts [18:06] ttf-mscorefonts [18:06] i think [18:06] Been there many times also but if you say so... [18:06] haha [18:06] we start from scratch man [18:06] lemme boot desktop again so i can see [18:07] ttf-corefonts already installed [18:08] right click remove completely [18:08] now desktop dont show anything on screen [18:08] sigh [18:10] helps if monitor cable is plugged into the graphics card [18:10] Lmga! [18:10] ouder is niks, dis die dom wat pla [18:11] Ja hahahaweet ek dit nie! [18:12] there im there now too [18:14] is corefonts removed?? [18:14] yes [18:14] ok is there a dot file for it [18:15] Is it just .corefonts? [18:16] in home? [18:16] dont see one [18:16] http://linuxg.net/how-to-properly-install-google-earth-on-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-13-10-and-derivative-systems/ [18:17] i followed that here and it worked till it said my graphics card needs upgrading [18:17] Thats the last one I tried for thes econd time, no luck [18:17] you on lappy now [18:17] no desktop [18:18] oh [18:18] ok [18:18] go back xynaptic [18:18] synaptic [18:18] right [18:18] and install mscorefonts [18:19] and watch for the popup saying accept eula stuff [18:19] it must show [18:19] Ok did it [18:20] yay\ [18:20] ok so [18:20] have you installed all those extra dependancies [18:21] what dependancies? [18:22] wait [18:22] sudo apt-get install gdebi [18:23] failed to download [18:23] sudo apt-get install libfontconfig1:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxrender1:i386 libxext6:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libglu1-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0:i386 libsm6:i386 [18:23] ai! [18:23] no connection [18:23] seems to be downloading corefonts [18:23] ok we wait [18:24] this pc very slow [18:24] Failure to download extra data files [18:24] you must have gdebi [18:24] no man [18:24] what mirror you using [18:24] neulogy [18:25] use mirror for south africa [18:25] failed to download is normally connection probs [18:25] and rarely mirror busy upgrading [18:25] gdebi already latest version [18:25] yay [18:26] seen that 100 times [18:26] then do that long ocommand [18:27] all already latest versions [18:27] wget http://dl.google.com/dl/earth/client/current/google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb [18:27] or [18:27] wget -c if you already have it [18:27] then it will look for what is missing [18:28] tell when done [18:29] Said I must try wget help, then massive output [18:30] wget -c http://dl.google.com/dl/earth/client/current/google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb [18:30] I already have that file [18:31] this pc so slow it even shows spinning clock when i switch workspaces [18:31] http://dl.google.com/dl/earth/client/current/google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb [18:31] wait [18:31] sudo gdebi google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb [18:32] then it should work [18:33] if not maybe graphics probs [18:33] seems like installing software, but there was a previous install that did not work properly, are we not going to have a conflict? [18:33] then we ask inetpro to fix it [18:34] didnt you remove earth [18:34] Yes I did then reinstalled according to thesite you sent link of [18:35] lol [18:35] ok then [18:35] just try [18:36] sudo aptitude reinstall google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb [18:38] ok lets see [18:39] oh when you have screenshots to show put them on http://pasteboard.co [18:40] Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb" [18:40] ai! [18:40] where is the download [18:40] That file is in downloads maybe I must put it in home? [18:40] try [18:41] actually copy it to /var/cache/apt/archives/ [18:41] hopefully it isnt corrupt [18:42] theres one in home also [18:42] theyre all over the place [18:42] haha [18:43] put one in /var/cache/apt/archives [18:44] where do I find taht folder? [18:44] sudo cp /home/jan/google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/ [18:45] then sudo apt update [18:45] opk, then? [18:46] then the aptitude reinstall [18:47] Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb" [18:47] ai! [18:47] nee man [18:48] did you do sudo apt update [18:48] yes [18:48] and it doesnt see it in archives? [18:48] thats the feedback [18:48] check typing [18:48] copy and paste? [18:49] thats what I did [18:49] dont use the " " [18:49] did not [18:49] ai! [18:49] try running earth [18:50] ugly as before [18:50] did it copy to /var/cahe/apt/archives/ [18:51] cache [18:51] maybe im making the typos [18:51] well I did the command you gave me and it ran? [18:51] cahe? [18:51] oh is your home got a jan folder in [18:51] instead of cache [18:52] cache [18:52] yes [18:52] /var/cache/apt/archives/ [18:53] bash: /var/cache/apt/archives/: Is a directory [18:53] the copy command [18:53] let me go look in files [18:53] copy command? [18:54] youve lost me now [18:54] sudo cp /home/jan/google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/ [18:54] cp=copy [18:55] tell when done [18:55] must I run that? nothing happens [18:56] sigh [18:56] whyyyyyyy [18:56] ok [18:56] lets try see if graphics help [18:56] in dash type in additional [18:56] and tick additional drivers below [18:57] what you mean nothing happens oom [18:57] if it goes back to prompt then its done [18:58] just goes back to prompt, nothing seems to run [18:58] no additional drivers [18:58] ai! [18:58] ok thats me lost for further knowlege [18:59] inetpro superfly can one of you help please [18:59] or bushtech_ [18:59] or anyone else that can think [19:00] in the meantime Langjan start saving for a 64bit lappy and desktop [19:00] * Kilos hides [19:00] dont hit me please [19:00] im only small [19:00] rather do without Google Earth for now [19:01] what do you use it for [19:01] thought you wre gonna say use kde, its a unity prob! [19:01] if it worked there before it should work again [19:01] yes thgats what I thought [19:02] oh yes i thought you had worked that out for youself by now [19:02] hahaha [19:02] ouder dom [19:02] hahaha [19:02] jy lag vir siekte [19:02] if it worked before it must work again [19:03] get some sea algae [19:03] as jy vir ou mense lag verskeur die bere jou, lees die Ou Testament [19:03] algae? [19:03] .marine-phytoplankton [19:04] what for? [19:04] will make you younger and slim again [19:04] hype! [19:04] thats where they get spirulina [19:05] hah [19:05] Ja I'll send you some info about Spirulina compared to what I use, Spirulinas a waste of money [19:05] what do you use [19:05] Completely and utterly [19:05] time for me to go, chate later all [19:06] ok sleep well [19:06] Ill send you info, meanwhile google foodstate [19:06] nono [19:06] cheers [19:06] no money [19:06] visa first [19:07] Ja and then you still waste it... [19:07] waste what [19:07] money [19:07] huh [19:07] nono [19:07] visa [19:07] then happy [19:07] bobbejantjie se huh [19:07] good [19:07] then can think oh other stuffs [19:07] haha [19:07] yes agreed [19:08] soet wees oomie [19:08] you know where i am [19:08] jy ook Kilos baie dankie vir jou hulp [19:08] enige tyd [19:08] sweet dreams [19:08] ill think so long [19:08] you too ty [19:08] thks [19:09] meanwhile gonna uninstall all G Earth remnants [19:09] ok [19:09] Bye now [19:09] cheers my friend [19:09] sigh [19:10] * Kilos hates not being able to help [19:10] if it worked before it should work again [19:41] night all.sleep tight