[00:46] <RobbieL811> What's up guys?  Anybody around in here tonight?
[00:47] <EOBeav> Been pretty quiet
[00:48] <RobbieL811> EOBeav, Ok.  I was hoping to possibly get a nudge in the right direction lol.
[00:48] <EOBeav> Not much of an expert myself, just keeping logged in to decide if I should do this upgrade now or wait til April
[00:49] <RobbieL811> Lol.
[00:49] <RobbieL811> I opted to upgrade lol.
[00:49] <RobbieL811> Having a bit of trouble w/ my Centrino 2230.  But I don't think it's a 16.04 related issue.  I did a reinstall of 15.10, and it seems that the issue is present there also.
[00:50] <EOBeav> Once its officially released, will the beta automatically go to the updated version?
[00:50] <EOBeav> What's the problem?
[00:51] <RobbieL811> Just sporadic speeds in wifi.  It was stable at one time on 15.10 w/ an edit to /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf, but that little trick doesn't seem to be working any longer.
[00:52] <RobbieL811> Yeah.  I would assume that when it's officially released, that you would be able to go to the website and download.  Thought I must say that other than this little wifi problem that I'm having, 16.04 seems super stable!
[00:52] <RobbieL811> I have been running it for the past 3 days or so, and it's running great.  And I have a PITA nvidia card.
[00:53] <EOBeav> Good to know. 14.04 works so well for me I almost hate to upgrade. It's supported until like 2019 or something
[00:53] <RobbieL811> I'm addicted to updates lol.
[00:53] <RobbieL811> When there's a new one, I HAVE to at least try it!  Lol.
[00:54] <RobbieL811> You could always run it in a little VM just to check things out and poke around a bit.
[00:54] <EOBeav> I used to do that quite a lot, back in about version 8.04
[00:55] <RobbieL811> I wasn't around back in those days.  I think I dumped the shmicrosoft crap around 10.04 or 12.04.
[00:55] <RobbieL811> So, I'm fairly new to Ubuntu.  Got into servers and crap around that time, and they all run Ubuntu, so I decided to make the swap on the laptop also.
[00:56] <EOBeav> Nice, been wanting to set up my own server, but haven't really done so yet
[00:56] <EOBeav> I'd like to get ubuntu set up on a Nexus more now, though
[00:57] <RobbieL811> That's really where I started all of my Linux experience.  Was with Android lol.
[00:57] <RobbieL811> I was a SlimRoms member.
[00:57] <RobbieL811> Not sure if you're active in the ROM scene.  I figure you probably are mentioning nexus's and stuff.  Lol.
[00:57] <EOBeav> Not really, I'm just due for an upgrade and would like to include ubuntu in that
[00:58] <RobbieL811> Ah.
[02:15] <freezer> hi
[02:15] <freezer> why is iscsid running per default @ Ubuntu 16.04 Server?
[02:38] <xenial> Hola
[02:38] <xenial> Me pueden ayudar?
[02:43] <tsimonq2> !es | xenial
[02:43] <xenial> ok ok
[03:07] <jonathan_xx> any reason why Steam game Borderlands 2 might be crashing on this computer in Kubuntu 16.04 when it used to work on 14.10? I haven't tested it on 15.10 before I upgraded.
[03:16] <Abe_> can you replace X with Mir in the new 16.04 release when it comes out?
[03:17] <Abe_> want to upgrade but only if Mir is implemented
[03:19] <jonathan_xx> My game problem was caused by the nVidia driver (361.28) I needed to put "__GLVND_DISALLOW_PATCHING=1 %command%" in the options box for the game, thanks.
[03:57] <soreau> What kernel version will 16.04 be released with?
[04:01] <soreau> looks like v4.4
[04:02] <soreau> kthxbai
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> agronholm: got your issues fixxed?
[09:56] <agronholm> lotuspsychje: I don't intend to install 16.04 beta again and to my knowledge, none of the issues have been fixed yet
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[09:56] <agronholm> but I now have workarounds for them all
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> agronholm: can i suggest a daily :p
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> +cable + updates during setup + nomodeset perhaps
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> agronholm: i think your case would be interesting for the community, to know about/bug
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> especially now they making better btrfs support
[10:34] <agronholm> lotuspsychje: I doubt it had anything to do with btrfs
[10:34] <agronholm> and everything to do with EFI
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:35] <agronholm> given the fact that the btrfs install went fine when booting via BIOS
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> agronholm: so that leaves you just with the graphics issue?
[10:35] <agronholm> yes...although it doesn't manifest itself when the installer is launched via the "Try Ubuntu" option
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> also weird
[10:36] <agronholm> at first I thought it was a multimonitor issue but it also happened with the laptop out of the dock
[10:38] <agronholm> lotuspsychje: this is my view right after the installer starts: http://imgur.com/Al3ezhF
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> wow
[10:39] <agronholm> now, I don't expect the OS to figure out how my monitors are physically positioned, but...
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> agronholm: seems like ubuntu uses 1 big desktop with all 3 screens?
[10:40] <agronholm> lotuspsychje: yes, but it still doesn't explain why I had issues with only the laptop monitor
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> agronholm: that might be due your optimus card
[10:41] <agronholm> how so?
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> agronholm: we had issues like that before
[10:41] <agronholm> why doesn't 15.10 have those issues then?
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> not sure
[10:41] <agronholm> the installer worked perfectly when I tried it after 16.04 beta2
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> agronholm: well with few weeks away from final, maybe wait now :p
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> or try the daily if you cant hold :p
[10:45] <agronholm> I'm fine with 15.10
[10:45] <agronholm> I just tried 16.04 out of curiosity
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> ok :p
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:16] <snadge> why wouldn't ctrl-alt-t work in gnome flashback?
[12:17] <k1l_> maybe the gnome guys thought that would not be necessary anymore.
[12:18] <snadge> hmm.. looks like a bug
[12:18] <snadge> http://askubuntu.com/questions/498968/ctrl-alt-t-stopped-working-ubuntu-14-04
[12:18] <snadge> even though im using 16.04
[12:18] <snadge> pkill gnome-panel did fix it
[12:19] <k1l_> it works on unity. so maybe its just in the gnome flashback desktop
[12:19] <snadge> oh woops im an idiot.. i forgot i booted back into 15.10.. *hides*
[12:20] <snadge> payday 2 got released for free on steam for the next few days.. that was too hard to resist.. and i have amd graphics.. so :|
[12:49] <snadge> yeah so it works equally well on radeonsi .. surprised
[12:49] <snadge> top job.. exciting times ;)
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> snadge: wich card are you on?
[13:06] <snadge> 7870.. pitcairn
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> snadge: on the radeon driver?
[13:11] <snadge> yeah
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> nice nice
[15:41] <jason__> is Ubuntu 16.04 going with PHP 7.0?
[15:41] <k1l_> !info php
[15:42] <k1l_> looks like it
[15:42] <jason__> thanks
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> jason__  Version: 1:7.0+35ubuntu5
[15:42] <jason__> perfect thanks!
[16:09] <somsip> info php
[16:09] <somsip> !info php
[16:53] <ryan_turner> Having this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1559469
[17:36] <mallard> What are the benefits of `apt` over `apt-get`?
[17:47] <tsimonq2> mallard: progress bar, 4 less letters to type :D
[17:50] <mallard> tsimonq2: Does it have the same features? The subcommands seem to be almost the same
[17:50] <tsimonq2> mallard: yeah, except for one, which I can't seem to remember...
[17:51] <tsimonq2> #debian-apt on OFTC is where the apt devs hang out, I would stop by there :)
[18:20] <jubo2> Hiya and Thanks, Thanks for the awesomest series of OS for GUI
[18:21] <jubo2> Some issues that were troubling me with old install of Kubuntu15.10 work glitchlessly in 16.04
[18:22] <jubo2> I'm trying to figure out which .dotdirectories I want to grab and put on Clean Kubuntu16.04 and which I want to leave behind.. Mi current theory is
[18:23] <jubo2> I want .bashrc .profile .config .kde and .ssh
[18:24] <jubo2> .config .kde should have my apps settings
[18:24] <jubo2> .bashrc .profile always take if you've made modifications
[18:25] <mallard> jubo2: I think there might be some configuration in .local/share
[18:25] <jubo2> and .ssh has known_hosts which spares the user some lotterying fingerprints
[18:26] <jubo2> Fingerprint töttörötöörööö Accept? Y/n
[18:27] <jubo2> mallard: .local/share was having hard time untarzipping
[18:27] <jubo2> Complained something real strange
[18:27] <jubo2> I actually have a partially copied .local/share
[18:28] <jubo2> Mi friends are having party and I bring 12-channel mixer, 3 dynamic unipolar mics
[18:28] <jubo2> and mi kawaoke subscription :D :D
[18:28] <mallard> I think that .local/share has a load of junk in it too, most of it is not config
[18:28] <jubo2> and a brand now Kubuntu16.04
[18:28] <jubo2> mallard: Seemed totally forgotten garbage
[18:29] <jubo2> Doesn't matter if I have ALSA or JACK since we do all the mixing with the analog hw mixer
[18:29] <jubo2> The people could potentially ask "What is this OS?"
[18:31] <jubo2> Then I can be like "Kubuntu GNU/Linukka 16.04"
[18:32] <mallard> Kubuntu GNU/Linux/KDE/LibreOffice/OpenSSH/Firefox..... 16.04
[18:33] <jubo2> KXStudio repos installation instructions lead to it trying to access the "Xenial" tree of the PPA
[18:33] <jubo2> which gives currently a 404
[18:34] <mallard> It's probably not supported then, you could try downloading the deb from launchpad but it will probably explode and ruin everything.
[18:35] <jubo2> So I'ma kick back and enjoy Kubuntu16.04 with ALSA in the controlls but reinstall clean when I get word from falktx that they Xenial stuff should be online and working
[18:35] <jubo2> only modified files and of course grab the irc logs
[18:36] <jubo2> The hard disks slide in and out the side when you don't keep the panel on
[18:37] <jubo2> and I have 2 slides with the rubberty things that guide the SATA-III HDD into place
[18:37] <jubo2> if that weren't enough choice in how to do thing
[18:38] <jubo2> also got a 20€ USB-to-SATA casing
[18:38] <jubo2> 2.5" pops in and out in seconds
[18:39] <jubo2> Windows C:\ wouldn't boot of the external USB-to-SATA casing.. Linux boots
[18:40] <jubo2> So I can pull the /dev/sda out and boot of drive attached to the USB-to-SATA casing
[18:41] <jubo2> I have gazillionmilliontillion ways I could do migrating stuff
[19:08] <jubo2> Seems to be something slightly wrong in the drawing
[19:12] <jubo2> areas of black appear occasionally
[19:13] <jubo2> should I file a bug report or is that just something somebody needs to read while could be doing more constructive things towards the release?
[19:14] <jubo2> Is Integrated into the 1st generation Intel i5 from 2011 if that matters
[19:14] <jubo2> Some of us are poor ja use ageold junk hardwares
[19:20] <Nukien> Anyone seen issues with a blank screen after a 16.04 install ? alt-f2 shows tty2 fine, and alt-f1 afterwards shows tty1, but until I do those, tty1 is blank
[19:21] <Nukien> I set GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /etc/default/grub, and now I can see the systemd msgs scroll by, but at the end they just stay there.
[19:21] <Nukien> The alt-f2 alt-f1 is required to see the boot prompt on tty1
[19:22] <Nukien> It's as if at the end the screen isn't being reset/refreshed correctly for the booting console tty1
[19:22] <Nukien> Another datum - plymouth doesn't work either, while it *does* work fine for 14.04
[19:22] <Nukien> This is both with virtualbox as well as real HW
[19:31] <Nukien> Testing in virtualbox ... adding nomodeset to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT sort of fixes it
[19:32] <Nukien> At least now can see the kernel msgs followed by systemd msgs and it resets to the boot prompt on tty1
[19:32] <Nukien> Installed plymouth - that gets a brief grey screen, followed by usual msgs then boot prompt
[19:32] <Nukien> So plymouth isn't hiding the stuff as it does with 14.4
[23:35] <coffeeguy> hi i switched from nvidia drivers to xorg rebooted and now 16.04 won't load, how do i swtich back without being able to load unbuntu?
[23:36] <k1l> !nomodeset
[23:36] <coffeeguy> thanks k1l :)